Hey can somebody help me? I got the SF4 TE madcatz fightsick, but i also have a retrocompatible "fat" ps3, and play some games for the PS2 on it, like Guilty Gear, and Capcom vs SNK 2, KOF, etc, and i dont know why but the madcatz arcade stick doesnt work when i want to play this PS2 games on my PS3, is there anything i could do to change it ot somebody know which arcade stick should i get? to play ps2 games on a retrocompatible ps3 D: SORRY BAD ENGLISH
um not really. Most of you blow it out proportion on how hard it is to play fighting games on a keyboard. Since, QCF moves or HCF etc, aren't 100 percent accurate, you can do down, foward for QCF movements and shit. Aside from that, keyboard have multiple possibilities for button layouts.
You can hardly say that it's easier than the arcade stick, 6/8 buttons next to each other which require little force to press, then the joystick itself requires very little exhersion to move to do any rotation.
uh no duh a stick is muc easier to use than th keyboard. I'm jus sayin, keyboards are better than game pads because you have all the options with ur fingerz, plus you aren't restricted to one type of layout. 360 moves are pretty hard w/ the keyboard, but trying doing Terry's old Rising Taco on a WASD setup ;)
i'm not too good at playing street fighter games on an arcade stick. i grew up using the controllers/d-pads because we didn't have an arcade nearby. although i started playing on a d-pad, when i played games like the marvel vs series, i discovered using an arcade stick was far easier. but when i play capcom vs snk, street fighter 4, or any of the original street fighters, i am much better on a d-pad.
p.s. xbox d-pad has always been a piece of shit. playstation d-pad is the best one ever made.
Generally, 4 directions(up down left right) are easier with stick but I am having hard time pressing or holding diagonal directions with arcade sticks. I think Controller D pad is better when it comes to diagonal directions.
The fact that if you actually practiced with a stick you'd be better, moves come out faster, combos are almost second nature and in SF4 Ultras are almost impossible unless you cheat and bind three punches/kicks to one button.
It's already been proven your wrist is faster than a thumb :P
Even with a 6 button fightpad ultras would be harder than a stick, shoulder buttons just aren't very good buttons to use there's a reason all tournament players use sticks
Where has it been proven that the wrist is faster than the thumb? I have scoured google and found absoloutely nothing backing up that statement, so where's the proof? I'd love to see it.
So ultra's will be difficult on a Hori EX2 then? Seeing as how that stick is 6 buttons too and I have no other options on the 360...
You sir should win a certificate for dumbest question ever asked on the internet. Or most amount of epic fail in one post. Or just generally being a moron. Or all three.
Well it's funny how there is no definitive answer given. If it was such a stupid question, there would be an answer that would objectify undeniable logic. However, there is no answer, simply doesn't exist... It boils down to personal preference.
No, there really is a definitive answer. The game was made for the arcade. The console port is just that, a port. Playing a fighting game made for console works fine on a controller (DOA4 or Super Smash Bros) but as far as traditional arcade fighters go, especially the SF series, arcade sticks are far superior. Don't believe me? Buy SFIV and go to challenge mode, try to complete the harder difficulty combos on a controller, you will never nail it I assure you.
That's not an answer at all, like I said- it's down to personal preference. I started my SF days on the arcade too, so I understand where you're coming from.
Any character in particular you reffering to? So far I have mastered some of the Shotokan characters hard trials, on a standard 360 controller. (Ryu, Gouken, Akuma)- so perhaps your assurance is reffering to a specific trial?
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Maybe your stick sucks. Or maybe you should check out getting an Octo-gate stick instead. The standard sticks are normally square gates which basically is your four general directions. Octogates are like gigantic analogue sticks so a lot of tourney players hate them because of their increased throw but there are also a select few people out there who love them. Google it, check it out for yourself. Could be a good option.
Does the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 (PS2) work with XBox 1 & Gamecube via a PS2 to Xbox/GC adaptor? It should, but before I shell out the money for one I just want to make sure.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get it working on 360 and can it still work on PS2 as well? I want a stick for both (also PC which shouldnt be a problem) and this one looks good.
Soul Calibur hori stick is coming out for the 360 a couple days before the game. You might want to check it out, I'm not sure if I will buy it. That is why I am searching for YouTube videos with the hori sticks. Just go to Amazona and put in hori, they are $59.99.
that's just a regular EX stick with art on it. if you're in need of a stick i'd say get it, but you could probably find and EX stick for $20 less if you don't mind not having the art. just wait Hori is making an actual Real Arcade Pro EX
If you ever looked at the joysitck of a JLF series joystick the buttons are soldered onto a pcb underneath it. That whole assembly is what I had to take out and replace with switches not soldered to a pcb.
How is it better than the previous hori stick for PS2? Does it feel the same? The reason I have for asking is my budget. I heard the pro 2 prices at $129.95. Versus the previous model that goes at about $49.95. I don't have that much to drop on an arcade stick. Just trying to see what I can get at a cheaper price for the same quality. Because from what I've heard the Hori stick that came before the pro 2 is the same exact thing minus the turbos and a few other features. But the stick is the same
It's a little more sturdy than past ones. The buttons sure feel more sturdy than past earlier hori sticks. Your best bet if you want similar quality find a tekken ps2 hori stick. those are pretty cheap to find.
Dude! What a stroke of luck! I got the hrap2, same as you at an exclusive video game store near my house. They it was exported 2 days before I got there. I never thought I'd be so lucky as to walk in to a store expecting something less in terms of quality, yet walk out with something more for cheap. I must say it handles beautifully. The restrictor is square like you said, and is great for down forward, down back etc... Thanks man. If it wasn't for your video I would never have been convinced!
Awesome. If you like a better 360 motion with out the "corners" you can always buy a different plate. They have more circular ones. How much did you buy it for? You're pretty lucky.
$89.95, and I do like the corner restictors. It's exact Japanese/Korean arcade format. I'm a tekken player as well as Guilty Gear. I was about to turn pro in tekken but I was told by the U.S. tekken committee that I would have to convert from pad and start playing japanese format sticks before the would register me on tekken net rankings. So I might as well keep the stick the way it is. I like it regardless.
The process of adjusting has been fairly easy. Within a month I should be good to go. :)
when you replace the restrictor plate for it you get a better 360 degree motion no more four edges. I like it cuz it gives it a more circular feel. I get my moves off alot better than before. The shaft is shorter than the traditional arcade joystick, so the "throw" seems shorter so your moves are faster.
Hey sunshyne19, I had a couple questions. I'm looking to get an arcade stick for PS2 and Xbox 360. With this mod, can you continue to use it on the PS2? If not, then I would have to pick up this and an Arcade In A Box.
you could try to cram 2 pcbs in there that would take some calculating but in my case i really didn't need to have a stick that could both be played on the ps and 360. i just wanted a dedicated one for the 360. but to answer your question this mod only goes one way. having the ability to use multiple systems on one stick is convenient tho.
do you know if the DOA/ Virtual Fighter stick without mooddeing would work for street fighter anniversary collection or street fighter hyper fighting on the 360.
have you ever try the doa stick, they have the same stick for virtual fighter two it has stickers do is not like the DOA 4, but the controllers look the same.
hori makes arcade sticks for the xbox 360 now. Do you know if is a good arcade stick because i'm trying to get one to play my street fighter games on my xbox
the only arcade stick hori makes for the 360 is the DOA one. if your talking bout this one, this one was made for the ps2 which i then converted to 360. no they don't make this particular one. they have a thing called arcade in a box now, they sell sticks. u could looke them up is u want sticks also.
Hey can somebody help me? I got the SF4 TE madcatz fightsick, but i also have a retrocompatible "fat" ps3, and play some games for the PS2 on it, like Guilty Gear, and Capcom vs SNK 2, KOF, etc, and i dont know why but the madcatz arcade stick doesnt work when i want to play this PS2 games on my PS3, is there anything i could do to change it ot somebody know which arcade stick should i get? to play ps2 games on a retrocompatible ps3 D: SORRY BAD ENGLISH
cerdo6661 1 year ago
@cerdo6661 I think its because the Madcatz TE is only compatible with PS3 games only.
gamerso1990 7 months ago
why use xbox 360 play cheap game like that ?
imsuxppl 1 year ago
Hi this is sweet. Do you have any idea how to make a dreamcast controller work for the 360???
Plz any help would b great. I hate playing Marvel vs Capcom2 on the Xbox360 D-pad.
D2ezbmu 2 years ago
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wow, fuck you all. controllers are gay, i would rather play on a keyboard than a shitty controller.
rumbazz 2 years ago
Fighting games on a keyboard = like, the hardest possible way.
keroberus2 2 years ago
um not really. Most of you blow it out proportion on how hard it is to play fighting games on a keyboard. Since, QCF moves or HCF etc, aren't 100 percent accurate, you can do down, foward for QCF movements and shit. Aside from that, keyboard have multiple possibilities for button layouts.
rumbazz 2 years ago
You can hardly say that it's easier than the arcade stick, 6/8 buttons next to each other which require little force to press, then the joystick itself requires very little exhersion to move to do any rotation.
Keyboard with Gief = not the nicest thought ;).
keroberus2 2 years ago
uh no duh a stick is muc easier to use than th keyboard. I'm jus sayin, keyboards are better than game pads because you have all the options with ur fingerz, plus you aren't restricted to one type of layout. 360 moves are pretty hard w/ the keyboard, but trying doing Terry's old Rising Taco on a WASD setup ;)
rumbazz 2 years ago
i'm not too good at playing street fighter games on an arcade stick. i grew up using the controllers/d-pads because we didn't have an arcade nearby. although i started playing on a d-pad, when i played games like the marvel vs series, i discovered using an arcade stick was far easier. but when i play capcom vs snk, street fighter 4, or any of the original street fighters, i am much better on a d-pad.
p.s. xbox d-pad has always been a piece of shit. playstation d-pad is the best one ever made.
envinoveritus 2 years ago
isnt that the anniversary edition.......?
StraightSnake 2 years ago
good stuff but you are terrible at SF
mastergsan 3 years ago
Haha yeah, I do better than that on my 360 controller d-pad.
doctorKilljoy 3 years ago
Sanwa ftw...
anyway, how did you mod it for the 360?
juanreyes1212 3 years ago
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stick hori is bad...pro stick beginner stick........
gaiko185 3 years ago
You said Hori doesnt make 360 sticks.... They made the EX 2
AFernandez305 3 years ago 2
hes not fighting back wtf!
T4nz4ni4232 3 years ago
Generally, 4 directions(up down left right) are easier with stick but I am having hard time pressing or holding diagonal directions with arcade sticks. I think Controller D pad is better when it comes to diagonal directions.
pirateJoon 3 years ago
I have no problems with Diagnals on a stick, everything is better on a stick (in fighting games)
kornymunky 3 years ago
Why is this? I can play so much more proficiently on a d-pad than a stick.
But I would love for you to explain why a stick is better in every way?
southstaronline 3 years ago
The fact that if you actually practiced with a stick you'd be better, moves come out faster, combos are almost second nature and in SF4 Ultras are almost impossible unless you cheat and bind three punches/kicks to one button.
kornymunky 3 years ago
But surely common sense says that wrist movement will always be slower and less effective than that of slight thumb movement?
6 button FightPad with triggers that are already signed to 3x3 means it should technically be alot easier to play on, rather than a stick?
Dunno, just strikes me as basic logic?
southstaronline 3 years ago
It's already been proven your wrist is faster than a thumb :P
Even with a 6 button fightpad ultras would be harder than a stick, shoulder buttons just aren't very good buttons to use there's a reason all tournament players use sticks
kornymunky 3 years ago
Where has it been proven that the wrist is faster than the thumb? I have scoured google and found absoloutely nothing backing up that statement, so where's the proof? I'd love to see it.
So ultra's will be difficult on a Hori EX2 then? Seeing as how that stick is 6 buttons too and I have no other options on the 360...
southstaronline 3 years ago
I can't find the site right now but I'll post it as soon as I do
They'll be less difficult on a EX2, but the EX2 isn't all that great
kornymunky 3 years ago
You sir should win a certificate for dumbest question ever asked on the internet. Or most amount of epic fail in one post. Or just generally being a moron. Or all three.
doctorKilljoy 3 years ago
Well it's funny how there is no definitive answer given. If it was such a stupid question, there would be an answer that would objectify undeniable logic. However, there is no answer, simply doesn't exist... It boils down to personal preference.
southstaronline 3 years ago 2
No, there really is a definitive answer. The game was made for the arcade. The console port is just that, a port. Playing a fighting game made for console works fine on a controller (DOA4 or Super Smash Bros) but as far as traditional arcade fighters go, especially the SF series, arcade sticks are far superior. Don't believe me? Buy SFIV and go to challenge mode, try to complete the harder difficulty combos on a controller, you will never nail it I assure you.
doctorKilljoy 3 years ago
That's not an answer at all, like I said- it's down to personal preference. I started my SF days on the arcade too, so I understand where you're coming from.
Any character in particular you reffering to? So far I have mastered some of the Shotokan characters hard trials, on a standard 360 controller. (Ryu, Gouken, Akuma)- so perhaps your assurance is reffering to a specific trial?
Got a stick on the way anyway lol...
southstaronline 3 years ago
thats a fact, the shitty xbox 360 pad can't cope with the hard trials.
Camer0nz 2 years ago 2
Thats why you use the analog. Best analog stick ever. imo
bugcatcherbug 2 years ago
im a beast with the xbox d-pad!
ive only played on the arcade sticks on the arcade...
So im not really use to it. im thinking about getting one, everyone telling me i can have more control once i get use to the stick.
th3major 2 years ago
"epic fail" why how culturally observant of you
mikew909 3 years ago
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Maybe your stick sucks. Or maybe you should check out getting an Octo-gate stick instead. The standard sticks are normally square gates which basically is your four general directions. Octogates are like gigantic analogue sticks so a lot of tourney players hate them because of their increased throw but there are also a select few people out there who love them. Google it, check it out for yourself. Could be a good option.
doctorKilljoy 3 years ago
This doesn't make any sense
spiceydude69 2 years ago
Is this a good stick in general ? I'm thinking about buying a PS2 Super Pro.Stick. Thanks in advance for feedback and reply's.
keysonyanosmilanos 3 years ago
yea wait for the xbox 360 hori real arcade pro. that's real nice.
sunshyne19 3 years ago
Cant you just get a ps2 to pc converter and then just stick in your 360 because it has the usb port. PLZ tell me if this relly works.
BlingBlams 3 years ago
you can't do this because the 360 has security that only allows 360 controllers or s mod such as this
orlind 3 years ago
probably gutted a 360 controller and soldered it up.
a1its 3 years ago
any1 know of ps2>x360 converter?
thestlgamer 3 years ago
Does the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 (PS2) work with XBox 1 & Gamecube via a PS2 to Xbox/GC adaptor? It should, but before I shell out the money for one I just want to make sure.
SatoshiMatrix1 3 years ago
I couldn't say I've never had an adapter to try it out, but I'm thinking no... not really sure tho.
sunshyne19 3 years ago
With the right adapter, it does work on Xbox 1.
Taoku 3 years ago
Mine arrived, and yes, yes it does work with the Xbox 1 via a PS2 > Xbox adaptor.
SatoshiMatrix1 3 years ago
I fucking hate the Xbox 360 controller with fighting games.
yoduh1112 3 years ago
tell me about it. i can't stand ANY controller for any fighting game. but some ppl can use it... i think they're weird! LOL
sunshyne19 3 years ago
same here mate
shortmarin3 3 years ago
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get it working on 360 and can it still work on PS2 as well? I want a stick for both (also PC which shouldnt be a problem) and this one looks good.
massi4h 3 years ago
it only works for the 360, i didn't have enough room to cram the ps2 PCB in there.
sunshyne19 3 years ago
shortmarin im doin the same fuck me buying a mod chip
TheManYoHot 3 years ago
nice triple dragon ;)
shaolindreams 3 years ago
OMG i want one soooo bad, getting ready for SF4 ;)
shortmarin3 3 years ago
i have that exact same monitor.
fiending 3 years ago
it's a bad ass monitor!!!
sunshyne19 3 years ago
wow, me too. i love it. nice @ the 360 HRAP btw
chinohormann 3 years ago
What monitor are you using, if you don't mind me asking? :]
mikh07 3 years ago
samsung 226 bw
sunshyne19 3 years ago
i would own you in street fighter
GotchaBtches 3 years ago
that may be true but just don't think you could whoop my ass!
sunshyne19 3 years ago
Actually there is the Hori EX2 series for XBox360 which I own. Everything works fine for me with it, and it's cheaper compared to HRAP2.
shavoba55 3 years ago
Soul Calibur hori stick is coming out for the 360 a couple days before the game. You might want to check it out, I'm not sure if I will buy it. That is why I am searching for YouTube videos with the hori sticks. Just go to Amazona and put in hori, they are $59.99.
TheVinster 3 years ago
that's just a regular EX stick with art on it. if you're in need of a stick i'd say get it, but you could probably find and EX stick for $20 less if you don't mind not having the art. just wait Hori is making an actual Real Arcade Pro EX
sunshyne19 3 years ago
Do you have instructions on how to do that?
Taoku 3 years ago
I'm in the process on making a tutorial as we speak.
sunshyne19 3 years ago
hey do you have sanwa buttons in there or hori buttons?
babyjesus7 3 years ago
all SANWA
sunshyne19 3 years ago
damnnnnnnnn im so mad i didnt buy it lol i slept on it :|
babyjesus7 3 years ago
Had to replace the Hori PCB with switches with low force operation switches (Omron VX).
whats that mean ... why didnt u just have a 3rd party microsoft controller pcb hooked up with quick disconnects to the buttons ?
WellWicked83 3 years ago
If you ever looked at the joysitck of a JLF series joystick the buttons are soldered onto a pcb underneath it. That whole assembly is what I had to take out and replace with switches not soldered to a pcb.
sunshyne19 3 years ago
Thats a playstation stick, is the stick compatible with the xbox 360 console as well?
M4N74R1 3 years ago
He changed the internal PCB from a playstation to and Xbox 360 one.
It is not PS compatible out of the box.
Hozie50 3 years ago
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why have you called this video "Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 XBOX 360" When its NOT even a Hori Arcade Stick for the 360, Get ur facts right
jamesdavid3 3 years ago
Umm that's what the title is.
lollnternets1 3 years ago
There is a Hori stick for the 360 it's the Hori EX2.
DTPSugar 3 years ago 2
sweettt
GameRemix 3 years ago
Nice room, nice setup.
RossPK81 4 years ago 2
Is there a tutorial? I have one catching dust right now.
wampoon 4 years ago
no tut. just a project of mine. if i had the time id make one. 1st just try to find a controller or another joystick with an easily connectable pcb.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
do you have problems with the hori moving around while playing? do you use anything to keep it in place?
statikeffeck 4 years ago
no it's pretty sturdy the way it is, whether it's on your lap or not the best is placing it on a desk or level table.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
How is it better than the previous hori stick for PS2? Does it feel the same? The reason I have for asking is my budget. I heard the pro 2 prices at $129.95. Versus the previous model that goes at about $49.95. I don't have that much to drop on an arcade stick. Just trying to see what I can get at a cheaper price for the same quality. Because from what I've heard the Hori stick that came before the pro 2 is the same exact thing minus the turbos and a few other features. But the stick is the same
nohmaninthezone 4 years ago
It's a little more sturdy than past ones. The buttons sure feel more sturdy than past earlier hori sticks. Your best bet if you want similar quality find a tekken ps2 hori stick. those are pretty cheap to find.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
Dude! What a stroke of luck! I got the hrap2, same as you at an exclusive video game store near my house. They it was exported 2 days before I got there. I never thought I'd be so lucky as to walk in to a store expecting something less in terms of quality, yet walk out with something more for cheap. I must say it handles beautifully. The restrictor is square like you said, and is great for down forward, down back etc... Thanks man. If it wasn't for your video I would never have been convinced!
nohmaninthezone 4 years ago
Awesome. If you like a better 360 motion with out the "corners" you can always buy a different plate. They have more circular ones. How much did you buy it for? You're pretty lucky.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
$89.95, and I do like the corner restictors. It's exact Japanese/Korean arcade format. I'm a tekken player as well as Guilty Gear. I was about to turn pro in tekken but I was told by the U.S. tekken committee that I would have to convert from pad and start playing japanese format sticks before the would register me on tekken net rankings. So I might as well keep the stick the way it is. I like it regardless.
The process of adjusting has been fairly easy. Within a month I should be good to go. :)
nohmaninthezone 4 years ago
This would be awsome for Virtua Fighter
stankwho 4 years ago
Works unbelievably with ANY fighter!
sunshyne19 4 years ago
Hey, I'm jw are the hori arcade sticks really good for street fighter? Like how's the feel of it?
xxmuraxx 4 years ago
when you replace the restrictor plate for it you get a better 360 degree motion no more four edges. I like it cuz it gives it a more circular feel. I get my moves off alot better than before. The shaft is shorter than the traditional arcade joystick, so the "throw" seems shorter so your moves are faster.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
Thats some SF skills ya got running there. :P
WildTengu 4 years ago
lol! yea, i kind of stopped thinking about wut to do there for a sec and just did some dumb shit.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
Hey sunshyne19, I had a couple questions. I'm looking to get an arcade stick for PS2 and Xbox 360. With this mod, can you continue to use it on the PS2? If not, then I would have to pick up this and an Arcade In A Box.
Rugged87 4 years ago
you could try to cram 2 pcbs in there that would take some calculating but in my case i really didn't need to have a stick that could both be played on the ps and 360. i just wanted a dedicated one for the 360. but to answer your question this mod only goes one way. having the ability to use multiple systems on one stick is convenient tho.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
do you know if the DOA/ Virtual Fighter stick without mooddeing would work for street fighter anniversary collection or street fighter hyper fighting on the 360.
jart122 4 years ago
yea it'll work you just have to change the buttons around in the game options.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
have you ever try the doa stick, they have the same stick for virtual fighter two it has stickers do is not like the DOA 4, but the controllers look the same.
jart122 4 years ago
yea i have tried the doa stick. the stick i used to mod this one was a fighter stick ex for the 360.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
hori makes arcade sticks for the xbox 360 now. Do you know if is a good arcade stick because i'm trying to get one to play my street fighter games on my xbox
360.
jart122 4 years ago
the only arcade stick hori makes for the 360 is the DOA one. if your talking bout this one, this one was made for the ps2 which i then converted to 360. no they don't make this particular one. they have a thing called arcade in a box now, they sell sticks. u could looke them up is u want sticks also.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
nice mod you did there on you're HRAP2. Hey I was wondering if you can help me mod my VSHG (not free of course lol). I would love to use it for VF5.
foxworthy21 4 years ago
Sure I'd like to help you. Yea, this stick works great with VF5. not particularly familiar with a VSHG but i can sure take a look into it for you.
sunshyne19 4 years ago
nice can i ask u where u got the horri joystick from???? and how much?
shortmarin3 4 years ago
i bought it from a merchant site on ebay Gamez Network Gaming Lounge. $100 with shipping.
sunshyne19 4 years ago