I think Karen Carpenter should be remembered primarily for her fantastic talent and not as a case study of anorexia - however tragic her life. Having said that, this film is interesting!
It's amazing how Todd Haynes, obviously a man, was able to make a film with such tremendous sympathy for women, let alone women with eating disorders. It truly is a crime that this film is not available for the general public--more women and girls NEED to see this film and know they are not alone.
@rabidrabbitshuggers I think it transcends gender. As a gay man, Todd Haynes could understand the need to try to conform to an unrealistic standard that society sets before all of us.
Haynes needed to do better research. If he had, he would have known that : a) Karen HATED the diet which she went on when she was 16, b) Richard was called "chubby" by Bill Board Magazine, not Karen. She was never called anything disparaging at all, actually. Also, Karen developed her illness because she lost her drums and never gained her family's respect or love. Her illness had very little to do with weight, and she did NOT spend all of her time talking about her weight.
I've heard about this and it's interesting and there's some nice detail, but frankly, I don't know why this bothered Richard. It's really very silly overall. The voiceovers are very bad. Whoever did Richard's voice is pretty good and does sound like him, though. I'm glad you posted it, though. It seems pointless to have pulled it from circulation, although the filmmaker shouldn't be making money off of it without having gotten permission to use the music.
There was just mention of Karen telling Mom of his secret, but that was Karen wanting to tell their parents of his addiction to Quaaludes. But apparently everyone thinks that the secret, is that he is gay. Which is pure silliness. Richard was in several long term relationships with women, and several that worked for Karen as hairdressers etc.
I saw this in the theater at a gay film festival and tried to figure out why it was there? Richard has 5 kids, for f**k's sake! Besides, these days there are SO many media whores that someone would have talked. Oh, BTW, Karen's drum set was much bigger, and YES I am a size queen when it comes to my drum sets!
When you post someone else's work its good form to credit them. We're not all gullible 16 yr olds ready to assume poster=originator. Though I'm quite ready to believe you simply 'just forgot to find room to mention him in there all your tags and description.
This was made in 1986 by Todd Haynes (and the dude's had quite a career since - check him out on IMDb)
More like can YOU find a better way to spend your time? If you thought you've wasted your time watching this video, then you shouldn't have watched it.
I think Karen Carpenter should be remembered primarily for her fantastic talent and not as a case study of anorexia - however tragic her life. Having said that, this film is interesting!
TheCrazyEm 3 months ago
It's amazing how Todd Haynes, obviously a man, was able to make a film with such tremendous sympathy for women, let alone women with eating disorders. It truly is a crime that this film is not available for the general public--more women and girls NEED to see this film and know they are not alone.
rabidrabbitshuggers 7 months ago
@rabidrabbitshuggers I think it transcends gender. As a gay man, Todd Haynes could understand the need to try to conform to an unrealistic standard that society sets before all of us.
metronomic1 4 months ago
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Who's the little sweetheart at 5:42?
cmlorenz 8 months ago
Who's the little sweetheart at 5:42?
cmlorenz 8 months ago
Haynes needed to do better research. If he had, he would have known that : a) Karen HATED the diet which she went on when she was 16, b) Richard was called "chubby" by Bill Board Magazine, not Karen. She was never called anything disparaging at all, actually. Also, Karen developed her illness because she lost her drums and never gained her family's respect or love. Her illness had very little to do with weight, and she did NOT spend all of her time talking about her weight.
improvguru 10 months ago
@improvguru It's a fucking movie. Get over it.
metronomic1 4 months ago
@metronomic1 It's an inaccurate movie. So fuck you.
improvguru 2 months ago
conceptional brilliant! Write letters to Mattel saying let this flick back on the market!!
diddymuck 1 year ago
@diddymuck
I don't think Mattel was the problem…it was Richard Carpenter who protested the film.
rabidrabbitshuggers 7 months ago
@rabidrabbitshuggers Yeah, it was, he was concerned about how the public would perceive him if this was released. Great film in my opinion though.
thefoolofapril 5 months ago
karen voce is so awsome i am in awe ov hw well she could sing so efoeestly
coolnicky100 1 year ago
the carpenters music,is epic there will never bee anyother band like them.
coolnicky100 1 year ago
I've heard about this and it's interesting and there's some nice detail, but frankly, I don't know why this bothered Richard. It's really very silly overall. The voiceovers are very bad. Whoever did Richard's voice is pretty good and does sound like him, though. I'm glad you posted it, though. It seems pointless to have pulled it from circulation, although the filmmaker shouldn't be making money off of it without having gotten permission to use the music.
tbirdy 1 year ago
@tbirdy Richard's reason for suing Todd Haynes was because he ILLEGALLY used the Carpenter's music in the movie
1Cheytown 3 months ago
@1Cheytown That makes good sense, although his suing probably just drew more attention to the movie.
tbirdy 3 months ago
...why do I have a hard time believing Karen said "god damn?"
Tigerbos 1 year ago 13
todd haynes, my hero
bogohoboho 1 year ago
I do think this is a little cult movie and it is also widely underestimated.
alessandrotinchini 1 year ago
This movie screened at out film festival in Houston years ago. You will never see it on DVD becasue of the lawsuits.
littlewing1975 1 year ago
CLOSE TO YOU always makes us feel a bit nauseous.
mrspatrickcampbell 1 year ago
love it!
fun & serious
;-)
NOWtheband 1 year ago
HD version anyone?? ;) lol.
Flaxxseed 2 years ago 3
There was just mention of Karen telling Mom of his secret, but that was Karen wanting to tell their parents of his addiction to Quaaludes. But apparently everyone thinks that the secret, is that he is gay. Which is pure silliness. Richard was in several long term relationships with women, and several that worked for Karen as hairdressers etc.
cd72 2 years ago 4
I was waiting for Don "no soul" Simmons to start singing.
DevilJosh4ever 2 years ago
Just because someone is married and/or has kids does not mean that he/she is straight. Duh... You-Tubers are retarded.
sthellgirl 2 years ago 2
I hope they'll make a Karen Carpenter movie with real people soon.
kirsm 2 years ago
@kirsm
Huh? Those weren't real people in this Todd Haynes film? I just thought they were stiff & awkward...make that VERY stiff....
JubalCalif 9 months ago
I saw this in the theater at a gay film festival and tried to figure out why it was there? Richard has 5 kids, for f**k's sake! Besides, these days there are SO many media whores that someone would have talked. Oh, BTW, Karen's drum set was much bigger, and YES I am a size queen when it comes to my drum sets!
chefjoeyrof 2 years ago
Maybe because filmmaker, Todd Haynes, openly identifies as gay.
turgidmosquito 2 years ago
When you post someone else's work its good form to credit them. We're not all gullible 16 yr olds ready to assume poster=originator. Though I'm quite ready to believe you simply 'just forgot to find room to mention him in there all your tags and description.
This was made in 1986 by Todd Haynes (and the dude's had quite a career since - check him out on IMDb)
custardaghost 2 years ago
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Karen Carpenter was and is still GREAT. Making fun of the dead is not funny to me!
pce2allkaren58 3 years ago
LOL at Nixon playing the piano!
garyifny 3 years ago 3
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stupid...
grevenpopen 3 years ago
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pce2allkaren58 3 years ago
More like can YOU find a better way to spend your time? If you thought you've wasted your time watching this video, then you shouldn't have watched it.
halocharmer94 3 years ago
I just was waiting for it to get better.
pce2allkaren58 3 years ago
Those black titles are impossible to read. Anyone know where they can be read without going blind?
layton59 3 years ago 9
@layton59 i think the choice to make them impossible to read was an intentional one on haynes' part
kevnramser 1 year ago
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lol
AVALONFANINVA 3 years ago
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HAHAHAHAHA
VicRules666 3 years ago