Russia can nowadays invade Finland quite fast, but after that they crisis way worse than Chechnya ever. Finns have 500 000 trained men and can train fast more and more. Finns have stockpiled infantry weapons and anti-armor weapons. They are stubborn and very patriotic. If Russia ever will invade Finland, they have really nasty guerilla warfare in their hands, that will last decades.
@Kaarlo Russian occupation of Finland is sort of a No-go idea, international community would not tolerate it. Most likely conflict between Finland and Russia would be similar to what we saw in Georgia, rapid campaign to destroy Finnish military equiptment and defences, after that Finlands possibility for NATO membership would be gone for atleast couple of years.(Assuming that would be the cause for such conflict.)
while im not knowledgeable in Finish Russia relations. dont be so quick to assume that the rest of Europe will come together and help you.
Just look at WW2, How many time have they tolled hitler to stop and did nothing has he was swallowing up European nations?
the reality is that most countries will only go to war if they think they are directly threatened. or the are convinced that they have overwhelming power. no one has overwhelming power over russia.
@Crazylalalalala Russia would be pressured to stop the occupation, most likely by economin threats, nobody would go to war against Russia for something as small as Finland, as much as i hate to say that.
EU attacks russia, Russia cuts the oil and gas into Europe goes to shit overnight.
while the russian navy/ military is not in the best condition, it is still pretty powerful that anyone would have to be completely insane to attack it.
not to mention that there is no reason to believe all of the European nations will actually take part in any hostilities involving Russia.
@Crazylalalalala well for lisbon treaty it's pretty darn clear: article 42 (i think it was) states that eu will pursue completely sovereign military. unified one. it's signed and in power.
yea and before WW2 the allies kept saying if you invade one more country we will declare war on you... (to the nazies).
it wont be the first time counties didnt fallow thought with what they committed too.
the EU is not really as united as people seem to think.
not that such a war will happen anytime soon. unless you know something that i dont, which is very possible since i dont fallow the news in that region of the world.
@Crazylalalalala EU is, actually, pretty much a federation already. For example, EU law bypasses national constitution, 80% of Finland's laws are already non-national but EU ones. And it keeps integrating further, which I, as a federalist, just simply love :) We will reach the point of common army, because it'll be more cost effective, and can co-exist alongside european health care system.
@OnlyLifeMatters Fuck you, and go suck your Soviet Union of Europe masters...Eu is in fact 4th reich. Eu is failure and will fall, just like USA, China etc. You can go to live in North-Korea witch is closest to USSR and Eu is heading to that direction. No democracy, no rights, just right to work and freedom to think like elite....Lisbon treaty is against human rights and well...I show u how good EU is, why EU needed like 4 times to get constitution through? :D FAIL!! Cheaters!
@Friss99 If you are too stupid to use the rights that EU has granted you, it's your own loss. EU isn't Soviet Union in almost any way. Only similarity is a federal structure, which can also be found from Canada, Australia, USA, etc...are those too USSR clones? Go to school.
Lisbon treaty has enhanced human rights, yours too. Also LGBT rights have been improved. Common defense would give more money to be spent on welfare and paying our debt. EU is democratic as well.
@OnlyLifeMatters EU has granted? :D Lol, well thank you elite EU for granting "rights" for me..well get it, you don't have rights in EU. EU has taken away the human rights. As a people, you don't have any chance to affect. And u know why? Because it's too bureaucratic and big. No they aren't clones? why u would refer to that. Does it hurt that EU IS 99% what USSR were? :D You brainwashed sheep.
@Friss99 Ugh...no? EU has channels of influencing...sorry if your silly redneck mind is too blinded by hate to use them. first of all, it's leaders are either national leaders of member states elected via elections or MEPs, also elected via elections. So it all comes back to the people + citizen initiative.
You have weak understanding over political structure if you compare EU and USSR. It shows complete disregard over economics, security and safety issues, public health and property/ownership.
@OnlyLifeMatters And you think that MEP's are the ones who make decisions or even plan bills? :D Hahah are you so blind? MEP's are worth of shit. Yeah, they can make "laws" on some worthless topic so ppl can say "EU is democratic". Real decisions are made in behind curtains and in comissions..everybody knows that, oh you didn't? And how it's democratic if people can't make decisions because they can't in eu, look at Switzerland...No you have weak, because you don't see the big picture.
@Friss99 and who leads the commissions? the nationally elected politicians...you never listen to me in your blind rage. if you calmed down, and read my previous comment, you would have been able to read it and i wouldn't need to repeat it to you.
once more: the leaders of commissions are nationally elected people. ministers and head of states.
@OnlyLifeMatters once more. EU is just symbolic Democracy..If you could do some research and for minute throw that "commission/parliament ppl have elected via "democracy"". There are lot of documents in my language and in english too how corrupt and undemocratic fascist state EU is. But luckily Eu is falling appart and real democracy will win.
Take my note and watch e.g. how real democracy is being run in SUI. Platon would turn in his grave if he'd hear your states about EU democracy....
@Friss99 that "commission/parliament ppl elected via democracy" is exactly what invalidates your retarded point of view, which is also the reason why most of politicians and people in politic field actually support EU...it's because they have more insight to it than soft-brains like yourself.
We speak same language. Called suomi. I've read tons of documents in finnish language and in english language - only the uneducated and redneck people mock EU, the intellectuals like it. For a reason.
@OnlyLifeMatters Hahaha. Nauran sinulle kun "luulet" kuuluasi intellektuellejen joukkoon tukemalla EU:ta. Ei mepeiilä ole valtaa, yritä jo ymmärtää. Mepit vain tekevät päätöksiä kurkkujen koosta jos näin kärjistäen sanotaan. Oikeat lait ja päätökset tehdään kabineteissa. Uutiset on vittu täynnä juttuja tästä. Follow the money. Sulle ei varmaan oo tää tuttu käsite?
Miksi koulutetut professorit ja tutkijat, jotka uskaltaa olla erimieltä eikä rahoitus tule "tietyiltä tahoilta" ei tue EU:ta?
@OnlyLifeMatters Eu luo hyvän virkamieskoneiston johon on hyvä ns. mennä töihin ja saada hyvät rahat. "Perustetaan komissioita asiaa selvittämään ja 1 milj. € pufff***" Ei kukaan muu kuin omaa etua ajava tue eu:ta. Sinäkin olet vain lammas jota voisi hyvin syyttää maanpetoksesta.
Mihin tarvitsemme EU:ta suomen sisäpolitiikasta? Sä oot niin naurettava lammas, että susta huomaa kuinka ihminen voi olla ajattelematta omilla aivoillaan.
@OnlyLifeMatters Ja et taida olla lukenut kirjorja kuten "1984" tai "Brave new world"? Sillä näiden kahden tapahtumat yhteenvedettynä ovat kuin suoraa nykypäivän EU:n meiningistä. Muuta Ranskaan tai luxemburgiin tms. jos haluat yhteisen EU -valtion niinkuin mainitsit. Älä pilaa meidän muiden elämä. Oot lammas, puolue jota äänestät on vihreät, kokoomus, ehkä rkp tai näiden liitännäispuolueet, ja pressan vaaleissa äänestät Niinistöä. Meinikö oikein, jos meni totean vain....vitun lammas.
@OnlyLifeMatters Have you ever read lisbon treaty? :D I bet you don't, I'm not either but some lawers are. Lisbon treaty is unconstitutional. It smashed thru the political system in the summer vacation, Sunday evening....plus it was rejected like 4 times but IT MUST BE approved. Maybe the most bs decision in European history. And BIG time LOL. Dept? Losing our military for more money so we can pay dept to ECB, witch we as a people have in fact finance. Get ur money mechanics right u stupid fuck.
@OnlyLifeMatters And EU isn't democratic. Only Democratic nation in the world are Iceland and Switzerland. If EU is democratic, USSR were also, so there is no point in your sentence. I fucking hate people like you who don't take lesson from history. You keep repeating the mistakes and we, the rest, have to take it? Well EU will crash and then when the power comes back to people, i'll hope they'd make one more big rectification, Put the former pro-Eu citizens to train and send it to North-Korea.
@GYKY62 Too bad the russian army is not that strong. I mean they can probably take down Finland, but not easy. Plus shitloads of countries would fuck up Russia if they tried. Leave the "invading a country without a reason" to the US. :/
@harikGod I dont think anyone would care if Russia would attack Finland, they would just say its bad and Russia should stop. Russia is more valuable to US, NATO & EU then Finland.
If russia got none good enough reason there would be care faces. Both from the public and from alot of EU countries. Sure NATO would cry themself to sleep cuz they lose russia like that. But they would have to do something.
Vitun pällit miks kirjottelette tänne englantii, vaik tääl on vaa yks ruotsalainen kommentoimas, loput suomalaisiii :DDDD
RussiaVFinnland 2 weeks ago
What are those triple armed skis at 0:15? Can´t be for mines since the mineplow would be sufficient for that task?
MrOddball63 3 weeks ago
Russia can nowadays invade Finland quite fast, but after that they crisis way worse than Chechnya ever. Finns have 500 000 trained men and can train fast more and more. Finns have stockpiled infantry weapons and anti-armor weapons. They are stubborn and very patriotic. If Russia ever will invade Finland, they have really nasty guerilla warfare in their hands, that will last decades.
Kaarlo 3 months ago
@Kaarlo Russian occupation of Finland is sort of a No-go idea, international community would not tolerate it. Most likely conflict between Finland and Russia would be similar to what we saw in Georgia, rapid campaign to destroy Finnish military equiptment and defences, after that Finlands possibility for NATO membership would be gone for atleast couple of years.(Assuming that would be the cause for such conflict.)
SuperFinnish 3 months ago
@SuperFinnish
while im not knowledgeable in Finish Russia relations. dont be so quick to assume that the rest of Europe will come together and help you.
Just look at WW2, How many time have they tolled hitler to stop and did nothing has he was swallowing up European nations?
the reality is that most countries will only go to war if they think they are directly threatened. or the are convinced that they have overwhelming power. no one has overwhelming power over russia.
Crazylalalalala 2 months ago
@Crazylalalalala Russia would be pressured to stop the occupation, most likely by economin threats, nobody would go to war against Russia for something as small as Finland, as much as i hate to say that.
SuperFinnish 2 months ago
@SuperFinnish
I dont think Europe as much to bargain with. They gets a lot of its gas and oil from Russia. If they pressure Russia, Russia will pressure back.
But i have no reason to believe that a Fin vs Rus conflict will happen anytime soon. If you have info on the contrary i would like to read up on it.
Crazylalalalala 2 months ago
@Crazylalalalala EU is the biggest economy in the world. It also has the largest fleet at it's disposal.
Russia has relatively small economy and it's navy is in bad shape.
Good deal.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters
yes so?
EU attacks russia, Russia cuts the oil and gas into Europe goes to shit overnight.
while the russian navy/ military is not in the best condition, it is still pretty powerful that anyone would have to be completely insane to attack it.
not to mention that there is no reason to believe all of the European nations will actually take part in any hostilities involving Russia.
Crazylalalalala 1 month ago
@Crazylalalalala well, it's all strictly hypothetical of course. i've been to russia. i loved it. i regard them just as european as i regard myself.
But, if flame wars were to broke out, EU unified could conquer much of Russia and actually overtake the some of the gas by force.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters
its a very big IF, for EU to be unified.
besides russia will just nuke them so everyone would lose.
Crazylalalalala 1 month ago
@Crazylalalalala well for lisbon treaty it's pretty darn clear: article 42 (i think it was) states that eu will pursue completely sovereign military. unified one. it's signed and in power.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters
yea and before WW2 the allies kept saying if you invade one more country we will declare war on you... (to the nazies).
it wont be the first time counties didnt fallow thought with what they committed too.
the EU is not really as united as people seem to think.
not that such a war will happen anytime soon. unless you know something that i dont, which is very possible since i dont fallow the news in that region of the world.
Crazylalalalala 1 month ago
@Crazylalalalala EU is, actually, pretty much a federation already. For example, EU law bypasses national constitution, 80% of Finland's laws are already non-national but EU ones. And it keeps integrating further, which I, as a federalist, just simply love :) We will reach the point of common army, because it'll be more cost effective, and can co-exist alongside european health care system.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
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Friss99 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Fuck you, and go suck your Soviet Union of Europe masters...Eu is in fact 4th reich. Eu is failure and will fall, just like USA, China etc. You can go to live in North-Korea witch is closest to USSR and Eu is heading to that direction. No democracy, no rights, just right to work and freedom to think like elite....Lisbon treaty is against human rights and well...I show u how good EU is, why EU needed like 4 times to get constitution through? :D FAIL!! Cheaters!
Friss99 1 month ago
@Friss99 If you are too stupid to use the rights that EU has granted you, it's your own loss. EU isn't Soviet Union in almost any way. Only similarity is a federal structure, which can also be found from Canada, Australia, USA, etc...are those too USSR clones? Go to school.
Lisbon treaty has enhanced human rights, yours too. Also LGBT rights have been improved. Common defense would give more money to be spent on welfare and paying our debt. EU is democratic as well.
From what are you bitter?
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters EU has granted? :D Lol, well thank you elite EU for granting "rights" for me..well get it, you don't have rights in EU. EU has taken away the human rights. As a people, you don't have any chance to affect. And u know why? Because it's too bureaucratic and big. No they aren't clones? why u would refer to that. Does it hurt that EU IS 99% what USSR were? :D You brainwashed sheep.
Friss99 1 month ago
@Friss99 Ugh...no? EU has channels of influencing...sorry if your silly redneck mind is too blinded by hate to use them. first of all, it's leaders are either national leaders of member states elected via elections or MEPs, also elected via elections. So it all comes back to the people + citizen initiative.
You have weak understanding over political structure if you compare EU and USSR. It shows complete disregard over economics, security and safety issues, public health and property/ownership.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters And you think that MEP's are the ones who make decisions or even plan bills? :D Hahah are you so blind? MEP's are worth of shit. Yeah, they can make "laws" on some worthless topic so ppl can say "EU is democratic". Real decisions are made in behind curtains and in comissions..everybody knows that, oh you didn't? And how it's democratic if people can't make decisions because they can't in eu, look at Switzerland...No you have weak, because you don't see the big picture.
Friss99 1 month ago
@Friss99 and who leads the commissions? the nationally elected politicians...you never listen to me in your blind rage. if you calmed down, and read my previous comment, you would have been able to read it and i wouldn't need to repeat it to you.
once more: the leaders of commissions are nationally elected people. ministers and head of states.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters once more. EU is just symbolic Democracy..If you could do some research and for minute throw that "commission/parliament ppl have elected via "democracy"". There are lot of documents in my language and in english too how corrupt and undemocratic fascist state EU is. But luckily Eu is falling appart and real democracy will win.
Take my note and watch e.g. how real democracy is being run in SUI. Platon would turn in his grave if he'd hear your states about EU democracy....
Friss99 1 month ago
@Friss99 that "commission/parliament ppl elected via democracy" is exactly what invalidates your retarded point of view, which is also the reason why most of politicians and people in politic field actually support EU...it's because they have more insight to it than soft-brains like yourself.
We speak same language. Called suomi. I've read tons of documents in finnish language and in english language - only the uneducated and redneck people mock EU, the intellectuals like it. For a reason.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Hahaha. Nauran sinulle kun "luulet" kuuluasi intellektuellejen joukkoon tukemalla EU:ta. Ei mepeiilä ole valtaa, yritä jo ymmärtää. Mepit vain tekevät päätöksiä kurkkujen koosta jos näin kärjistäen sanotaan. Oikeat lait ja päätökset tehdään kabineteissa. Uutiset on vittu täynnä juttuja tästä. Follow the money. Sulle ei varmaan oo tää tuttu käsite?
Miksi koulutetut professorit ja tutkijat, jotka uskaltaa olla erimieltä eikä rahoitus tule "tietyiltä tahoilta" ei tue EU:ta?
Friss99 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Eu luo hyvän virkamieskoneiston johon on hyvä ns. mennä töihin ja saada hyvät rahat. "Perustetaan komissioita asiaa selvittämään ja 1 milj. € pufff***" Ei kukaan muu kuin omaa etua ajava tue eu:ta. Sinäkin olet vain lammas jota voisi hyvin syyttää maanpetoksesta.
Mihin tarvitsemme EU:ta suomen sisäpolitiikasta? Sä oot niin naurettava lammas, että susta huomaa kuinka ihminen voi olla ajattelematta omilla aivoillaan.
Friss99 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Ja et taida olla lukenut kirjorja kuten "1984" tai "Brave new world"? Sillä näiden kahden tapahtumat yhteenvedettynä ovat kuin suoraa nykypäivän EU:n meiningistä. Muuta Ranskaan tai luxemburgiin tms. jos haluat yhteisen EU -valtion niinkuin mainitsit. Älä pilaa meidän muiden elämä. Oot lammas, puolue jota äänestät on vihreät, kokoomus, ehkä rkp tai näiden liitännäispuolueet, ja pressan vaaleissa äänestät Niinistöä. Meinikö oikein, jos meni totean vain....vitun lammas.
Friss99 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Have you ever read lisbon treaty? :D I bet you don't, I'm not either but some lawers are. Lisbon treaty is unconstitutional. It smashed thru the political system in the summer vacation, Sunday evening....plus it was rejected like 4 times but IT MUST BE approved. Maybe the most bs decision in European history. And BIG time LOL. Dept? Losing our military for more money so we can pay dept to ECB, witch we as a people have in fact finance. Get ur money mechanics right u stupid fuck.
Friss99 1 month ago
@OnlyLifeMatters And EU isn't democratic. Only Democratic nation in the world are Iceland and Switzerland. If EU is democratic, USSR were also, so there is no point in your sentence. I fucking hate people like you who don't take lesson from history. You keep repeating the mistakes and we, the rest, have to take it? Well EU will crash and then when the power comes back to people, i'll hope they'd make one more big rectification, Put the former pro-Eu citizens to train and send it to North-Korea.
Friss99 1 month ago
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Friss99 1 month ago
0:42 DDR AK? :P
SuperFinnish 6 months ago
@SuperFinnish Joo noiden CV:eiden johtajilla on Kalashnikovit RK95 sijasta...
hegewayne 6 months ago
@hegewayne jaa eipä ollu ainakaa viel 2007. ysimilline ja 95-rynkky. Parolan lepardimiehil on ainaki ak-47 joku kiinamalli
Zplitter 2 months ago
@SuperFinnish MPiK-47 Fun to shoot, but leaves your shoulder a bit sore... XD
whitescar2 5 months ago
GOOD FOR FINNISH PEOPLE BECAUSE RUSSIAN CRIMINALS STILL WANTS YOUR COUNTRY ,NEVER SLEEP BE PREPERED OF ANSWER THE RUSSIAN IMPERIALISTIC!!!
GYKY62 9 months ago
@GYKY62 lfmao, ur funny. Just come and try....why didnt u guys get finland in winterwar? oh...
hottubeful 4 months ago
@hottubeful Well HottenSh1t. we are those rare nations who repulse USSR:
I think you just wanna suck dick. Dont you boy ?
lintu25 4 months ago
@lintu25 sorry, im not gay like u :(
hottubeful 4 months ago
@GYKY62 Too bad the russian army is not that strong. I mean they can probably take down Finland, but not easy. Plus shitloads of countries would fuck up Russia if they tried. Leave the "invading a country without a reason" to the US. :/
harikGod 4 months ago
@harikGod I dont think anyone would care if Russia would attack Finland, they would just say its bad and Russia should stop. Russia is more valuable to US, NATO & EU then Finland.
SuperFinnish 4 months ago
If russia got none good enough reason there would be care faces. Both from the public and from alot of EU countries. Sure NATO would cry themself to sleep cuz they lose russia like that. But they would have to do something.
harikGod 4 months ago
Great! Nice weapons and vehicles!
L33ML 9 months ago
0.39 Oikeen yläkulman CV:tä oli kiva ajaa
hegewayne 1 year ago