yeah yeah, lets see when you get bitch slapped when your not in front of a keyboard! by the way "pussies more powerful"? Hmmm, wait till you get older bitch...lol
Bonobos ARE chimpanzees, you're thinking of common chimpanzees. Bonobos and common chimpanzees are separate species, both belong to the genus Pan which is often referred to simply as "Chimpanzees".
Just finished watching Susan Savage-Rumbaugh's film on TED talks involving the jaw dropping observstion work with the Banobo! They are closest us as a species thsn any orher living creature. They arr much nicer though.
you know what. They male is not a "mamas boy" thats a human distinction. It is what it is. Lets not anthropomorphize these creatures. They are what they are.
this commentary isnt all that accurate, yes female bonobos have more status than females of most ape species , but the males are still much more dominant; that female bonobo display is probably the only time something like that has ever been caught on tape as is pointed out in the original video (something the makers of this video have conveniently overlooked)
im so very glad i dont have to watch american wildlife television programs. They are 'dumbed down' to the point where i think a toddler would surpass these academic under acheivments.Evolution?.Human behavoir? These absolutly amazing feats of human understanding are overlooked,so they cannot rock the boat with a anti evolution american audience. im glad we have the bbc
@jleque16 You're lucky. We have a lot of 'Creationists' here in the USA. They are absolute morons and they hold back our society from scientific progress. It's embarrassing.
im so very glad i dont have to watch american wildlife television programs. They are 'dumbed down' to the point where i think a toddler would surpass these academic under acheivments.Evolution?.Human behavoir? These absolutly amazing feats of human understanding are overlooked,so they cannot rock the boat with a anti evolution american audience.
I am a Biologist. I would LOVE for the chance to prove to the world how closely related we are to these guys, and that these guys aren't idiots, as most of the world has come to believe. I don't have the chance to work with em. It makes me sad. :( i wish that one day I'll have the chance to spend the day with these guys, and videotape it. The local zoo only has a male Orangutan, and a lemur, genderless. They've let me see them and spend some time but Can't really study until I work for the zoo.
After watching a Bonobo video the strangest thing happened to me, everyone (all humans) looked like primates/monkeys to me! I have never really doubted we are related to monkeys but it has never really seemed that way, now I can see it with my own two eyes, incredible! I'm not sure why no other primate has done this for me, I think it may be their eyes, more considered movements perhaps, they're very beautiful.
bonobos according to what ive just read are not chimpanzees, however, they are apes, more closely related to us humans than they are chimps (b/c they are not chimps). Apparently the difference is seen in male agression. While chimps grow up and share less food with others, the bonobos continue to share and love, whereas chimps make war. Humans seem more like chimps than apes.
this commentator offends me. "Don't believe it?" Because female dominant societies are SO unbelievable.. And don't sexualize the chimp. She's not a boss babe. She's a Bonobo. Would he call a dominant male a "hunk"? No, its particularly used to trivialize and sexualize female power - because sexual power is the only kind we understand/allow for females is our own society..
Thats right babe get used to it we are stronger and will always be leaders of men lol and one more thing apes are ruled by male apes the world over don't believe it? lol its true
The more I see chimps and bonobo monkeys the more I see us in them-even down to the walking. Now I read that humans and chimps have same amount of hair folicles, humans are not so thick and shorter.
Women USED to be the dominate ones in human society too.
The diffrence is time just happened to make it they couldnt make the cut, that speed and agility were out matched by brawn and rational (not to say that women aren't rational, but test have been done and confirmed a far speedier problem solving ability within human males). Our prey just didn't need to be out ran when most were insects and the few could be out smarted and bludgeoned.
when exactly were women in charge? the Neanderthals and cro-magnons all were male dominant even earlier humans as well the only thing i can think of is in ancient Spartan Society from the 12 century BC where males and females held almost equal status
The design of the female body is constistant with most predators much closer than with that of males. As well as seen with nearly all mammalian predators females are the norm for the hunters of the species.
With what we see from modern mammal predator societies it is being surmised in theory that humans most likely had a similar set up, with there being a alpha male being out ranked by a alpha female.
Realize though both my and your opinions are based of theorys that cannot ever be fact.
The female body is built for speed and agility rather than brute force, as is the same with most predators. It doesn't do a predator any good to be slow and strong but never actually able to catch its pray.
Earlier woman have been proven to have a much more streamline shape than the hourglass shape of modern woman maily lost to the fact of luxury beating necessity.
Also its been proven that even modern women have a much more sensitive sensory system than males, common amongst predator.
Bonobos are not chimps, they are a related species where the females are dominant.
In Chimp societies, the males are all dominant.
There is an environmental reason for the genetic differences in behavior.
In humans, our species is that the male is dominant, but through reason, we see value in both sexes, but the physical hormonal makeup and behavior, it is the male that is normally dominant. Fact.
Chimps aren't a Family thus their habits has no baring on the habits of humans.
You can use the Family Hominidae habits as a reflection of our own. Though even if you do this it has no baring. since no ape has had near the same carnivorous dependancy as humanity.
Though beyond this you haven't actually said anything, you said your OPINION then said "Fact" at the end. Every biologist knows you can never declare facts on theoretical behaviours which is above what you've done.
Yes because let me tell you. I went back in time and spread a FEV in early man to make women share the same characteristics of most mammalian predators.
That along side the fact that many "primitive" societies both existing today and those past, held woman in positions often in relations to the divine itself.
Do the world a favor and educate yourself before you talk.
While the female has always had a mystical meaning to humankind, there is little evidence of any ancient culture where they consistently held authority over men. The fact is that men on average are bigger and more aggressive, so can take power by force.
The secondary sex characteristics of women are exaggerated compared to other primates, which hints at their naturally selected role.
It's a good thing we live in the modern age tho, right? I think tough girls are hot.
In ancient greece oracles (who were always women) were held in higher reguards than any kind, and even had the ability (and i believe enacted on it in several occasions) usurped kings from their thrones. As well a african shamaness (which is as close to a primitive culture as we will see in a modern world) is also held in such reguards, a large reason why the christian churches are having a problem usurping paganism in the regions.
I agree though, the human male characteristic has made it easy for them to put themselves in a high possision quickly
But the female characteristics have been enlarged by it no longer being necessary for them to need to fight, and procreation being a then found higher role.
But yes it is good we live in a modern world, were brute force rarely means powerment.
The Bonobo (IPA: /bə'noʊboʊ/[3], Pan paniscus), which, until recently, usually was called the Pygmy Chimpanzee and less often, the Dwarf or Gracile Chimpanzee,[4] is a great ape and one of the two species making up the genus, Pan. The other species in genus Pan is Pan troglodytes, or the Common Chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" sometimes is used to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the Common Chimpanzee.
Bonobos are NOT chimps, they're bonobos! ugh! Like calling chimps monkeys, it makes me crazy. NG should know better, That being said, don't bonobos just rock?! They are much more "human" than chimps...physiologically and for lack of a better way of putting it, :psychologically". Much more peaceful animals than chimps.
The Bonobo (IPA: /bə'noʊboʊ/[3], Pan paniscus), which, until recently, usually was called the Pygmy Chimpanzee and less often, the Dwarf or Gracile Chimpanzee,[4] is a great ape and one of the two species making up the genus, Pan. The other species in genus Pan is Pan troglodytes, or the Common Chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" sometimes is used to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the Common Chimpanzee.
Bonobos are the most interesting apes. The fact that they're female run made them more interesting to me. The way they solve conflicts is far better than the way chimps do. I need to write a 12 page paper on them in a month.
yeah, they have sexual intercourse when they make peace, when they find new resources, sort of everybody with everyone celebration, sex for trade, same sex sex, at least it's not complicated to write about. :)
And btw I love it how people like yourself automatically lash out at and attack me when I say that. What I say is much more rational than some religious nutjob going on about how people and animals like monkeys and apes and shit go to heaven. It's like they're scared that what I say about death is the truth. They can't handle the fact that there's nothing after death and are afraid. There's nothing to be afraid of. It'll be just like it was before birth. Was that scary? No.
Well if you studied a little philosophy (Plato&Aristotle, Aquinas and Bergson, mainly), you would know that the immortality of the soul is the most rational position to hold. Please don't just bluntly say "no it isn't" with a few superficial reasons to believe the opposite, there are none that haven't been dealt with :).
Yea I have studied some. Their work is interesting but I do my own thinking. As for this so called immaterial soul, there's no reason to believe it exists until there's some kind of tangible evidence to show it does. That's how science works. I'm not saying, "the soul doesn't exist" (even though I truly believe it doesn't because when I died, I went to Mu (look it up) and ceased to exist), but rather "there's no reason to believe it exists". I'm not as closed minded as you may think.
"No tangible evidence" : do you have tangible evidence that two contradictory assertions cannot both be true or false at the same time? No. Yet science and maths use this notion (amongst Aristotle's other self-evident pricipals), except in some very particular realms which haven't been fully or perfectly explored yet (see Heisenberg's works).
And science isn't the only source of knowledge. In fact, science in a way is an uncertain way of getting to facts (=>induction).
To think that only science can get to the truth is self-contradictory, because that mere statement does not come from any scientific experiment ^^. It is self-refuting.
How is the soul defined and where is the evidence for it? If you define the soul as the consiousness, then it dies with the brain because consiousness is simply the product of a working brain.
"Consciousness is simply the product of a working brain" => False : Animals have working brains but are not "conscious" in that sense : they have so to say the feeling of themselves but not their own consciousness. An animal for instance is incapable of any form of introspection.
It depends on the animal. The more advanced the brain, the more advanced the consiousness. An advanced brain with an advanced consiousness is hardly a soul. Find me a neurologist who doesn't think that consiousness comes from the brain.
I'm not going to argue, if you don't have the basics I'm not going to teach them to you. "Les animaux ont le sentiment de soi, non pas la conscience". That solves the problem. No philosopher will disagree. No neurologist or whatever either. Find me neurologist who believes animals are capable of introspection, it'll make me laugh... You just don't know what you are talking about... I'm not going to kill myself answering comments if they are nonsensical. Back to college is the best solution.
I never stated that animals are capable of introspection, that would require a more advanced brain which they do no have because they have not evolved like humans have. Philosophy has nothing to do with how the brain works. An assertion in french is the same as an assertion in english.
I'll stick my neck out here...your's is the better analysis of the several herein. True, bonobos, chimps, etc., have no sense of their own mortality. And that is key to what is animal-animal and Human-animal. Regardless, even my dog shows what I would call love and affection. He responds to himself in the mirror, and tries to make the car go by inserting keys with paw on the shift. So, regardless of brain-status, all animals deserve fair treatment at our hands.
Johnd94, this might sound silly, but one way to define a soul is "the awareness that persists after the body's link, the mind, is no longer functioning". I personally believe souls exist. Not because I think I can prove it to skeptics, but because I have faith in things that can exist beyond direct tangible detection, like my faith in electrons. Claiming the EFFECT that "electrons" display in electronics as proof is no different than claiming the EFFECT that "souls" display in the mind as proof.
1)It does sound silly. You don't have any evidence to support your belief and you happily admit it. This is irrational.
2) You don't have faith in electrons. Your belief in electrons is based on evidence, but regardless. Electrons have been detected and proven to have an effect on chemicals.. Since there is no evidence for the soul itself, it IS silly to claim that it has an effect on anything.
Perhaps I should be more specific in my example of our scientific FAITH in our knowledge of electrons. We can assume that because electrons exist, then they MUST have a definite momentum and a definite location at any given point in time. I personally think that when something in "science" is IMPOSSIBLE to accurately measure like this, people accept it (Heisenburg says). But when it comes to something deemed "magical" like faith in the soul, skeptics protest because IT cannot be fully quantized.
Yes, there is uncertainty in science, especially in areas such as quantom mechanics. However, it is not as if there is simply uncertainty about the nature of the soul, there isn't any evidence of it in any way, shape or form.
No. Just no. There is no such thing as "faith" in science.
The difference is we have empirical evidence as to the existence of particles. Quantum mechanics is backed by mathematical formulas and years of research.
Science can be questioned, it IS questioned. And when it is, there is a method in which it is questioned. THAT isn't faith.
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Define the word however you wish, but FAITH basically means belief in something that cannot be fully proven. Any scientific theory is based on a form of mechanized faith. Hypotheses, which can be tested, are of course NOT faith. But just because something is intangible to current technologies doesn't PROVE its inexistence. I'm not saying I know of any evidence proving the existence of the soul, but I am saying that areas of science depend on equally far-fetched assumptions. Always remember that.
@caclech Science is a way of understanding.It is used to form rational beliefs when its method is properly applied.
To this day, the scientific method has proven to be the best way of accurately understanding the universe, as is made evident by the fruit (occasionally poisonous though nevertheless ACCURATE) that it has born.
But if you have found a better "structure of belief*" as you seem to think you have, then by all means, share. It must be something quite profound indeed.
@patrickcorliss You were wrong to think that in your sarcasm you sound intelligently witty. Your attempt to make unscientific claims sound ridiculous is, well... ridiculous.
Of course under such a juvenile understanding of Flying Pigs, any fool can make the belief sound silly. But if we're to view Flying Pigs in a more sophisticated manner, then we come to understand that they are actually flying at near light speed. The very fact that we can't detect them at all is UNDENIABLE PROOF of this.
@jankren the redneck/white trash/kkk thing doesn't work. I've never been south or met one. I am very well educated and thoroughly versed on both the biological and anthropological failings of the negroid.
Any one else find the narrator to be an annoying muppet? Who the hell writes a narration like that to a natural history film? 'That's one hot babe!'. Give me a break.
study anthropology for a bit, and you'll find out that there are many egalitarian and matriarchal human societies. "western society" doesn't equal "human society".
Both the common chimp (pan troglodyte) and the bonobo (pan paniscus) are under the genus "Pan", so in English they are both known to be types of chimpanzees (or Pans in latin)
Bonobos are not chimps, altough considered to be at one time. They were discovered only recently and infact are called the exact opposite of chimps.. they have sex frequently, to end arugments. Chimps have 1 alpha male, and they often gain up in various ways to overcome him. Bonobo femal apes run a tight ship, and it has worked wonderfully for them...
It's well know that girls are actually caught cheating more and that boys can do better when there is a male teach when its the oppisite with females. Also its not racism its sexism
dam right girls rule and dont you little fucking pathetic boys forget it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MsJamieclark 8 months ago
@MsJamieclark oke you are a homo
improfision 7 months ago 4
@improfision fuck off you shit fuck!!!!!!!!! our pussies are more powerful then youre fucking limp dicks you fucking queer!!!!!!!!!
MsJamieclark 6 months ago
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@MsJamieclark yea you are a homo
improfision 6 months ago
@MsJamieclark
yeah yeah, lets see when you get bitch slapped when your not in front of a keyboard! by the way "pussies more powerful"? Hmmm, wait till you get older bitch...lol
apocalypto1 6 months ago
@MsJamieclark You can only have 1 baby at a time, because i'm male i can have as many as i want!!!!!!
jayc342009 4 months ago
@MsJamieclark Prick much?
anumayy 4 months ago
@MsJamieclark
Girls rule the kitchen.
evolveinside 4 months ago
@MsJamieclark I am woman hear me roar?
JustSiouxMe 3 weeks ago
are bonobos the civilised chimps?
gmanskater1234 8 months ago
It's not a Bonobo chimpanze, it's a bonobo. They are two different species.
drtompat 10 months ago
@drtompat
Bonobos ARE chimpanzees, you're thinking of common chimpanzees. Bonobos and common chimpanzees are separate species, both belong to the genus Pan which is often referred to simply as "Chimpanzees".
Ilikemustard 9 months ago 3
the bonobo at the top at 1:05 totally failed when he tried to eat
starmodes 11 months ago 4
Fun fact, when two tribes meet they fuck.
When theres a fight they fuck.
When there bored they fuck.
When they greet each other they fuck.
I was born into the wrong species :(
gongo3090 11 months ago 10
Way to go girls! You're smarter than women.
Rakshaming 11 months ago
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loshombressobran 1 year ago
Let women control society and you too would be reduced to a chimp
TheLordofShell 1 year ago
I think it would be cool to be a bonobo. Especially since I am into all that dominatrix shit.
EnthalpyH 1 year ago
@EnthalpyH haha do you know how Bonobos deal with conflicts ?
PaiintDriP 1 year ago
Just finished watching Susan Savage-Rumbaugh's film on TED talks involving the jaw dropping observstion work with the Banobo! They are closest us as a species thsn any orher living creature. They arr much nicer though.
4theloveofgrace 1 year ago
@4theloveofgrace Thanks for mentioning the TED Talk. I had missed that one. It was excellent.
Nohname1 1 year ago
Somewhere in this video I'd expect Charlton Heston in a loincloth to be frogmarched by these chimps.
ffairlane57 1 year ago
i wonder what would happen if bonobos and normal chimps met?and could they breed with each other?
salvolondon 1 year ago
you know what. They male is not a "mamas boy" thats a human distinction. It is what it is. Lets not anthropomorphize these creatures. They are what they are.
basiacomeout 1 year ago
0:40 - 0:43 little bonobo : camera? whatever.. NIPPLE! hom hom nomnom
BubblegunNoGum 1 year ago
26 people are dominant males
OhMyGodSushiRoll 1 year ago
this commentary isnt all that accurate, yes female bonobos have more status than females of most ape species , but the males are still much more dominant; that female bonobo display is probably the only time something like that has ever been caught on tape as is pointed out in the original video (something the makers of this video have conveniently overlooked)
bluesquirellbaby 1 year ago
@bluesquirellbaby The bonobos matriarchal society has been well documented. Your theory is completely unfounded and baseless.
lorachelellis 1 year ago 3
i thought this was a song from the artist bonobo...then i get nice serving of chimp balls..great.
macsattack190 1 year ago 4
I thought I was watching a Tyler Perry movie
xrbecx 1 year ago
im so very glad i dont have to watch american wildlife television programs. They are 'dumbed down' to the point where i think a toddler would surpass these academic under acheivments.Evolution?.Human behavoir? These absolutly amazing feats of human understanding are overlooked,so they cannot rock the boat with a anti evolution american audience. im glad we have the bbc
jleque16 1 year ago 3
@jleque16 You're lucky. We have a lot of 'Creationists' here in the USA. They are absolute morons and they hold back our society from scientific progress. It's embarrassing.
lorachelellis 1 year ago 4
@lorachelellis your ass is embarassing to the USA
liameppes 1 year ago
im so very glad i dont have to watch american wildlife television programs. They are 'dumbed down' to the point where i think a toddler would surpass these academic under acheivments.Evolution?.Human behavoir? These absolutly amazing feats of human understanding are overlooked,so they cannot rock the boat with a anti evolution american audience.
jleque16 1 year ago
hahahaha! Sweet! I luv it!
andreamichellie 1 year ago
wtf is up with all the racial comments on this vid?
missyah101 1 year ago
I am a Biologist. I would LOVE for the chance to prove to the world how closely related we are to these guys, and that these guys aren't idiots, as most of the world has come to believe. I don't have the chance to work with em. It makes me sad. :( i wish that one day I'll have the chance to spend the day with these guys, and videotape it. The local zoo only has a male Orangutan, and a lemur, genderless. They've let me see them and spend some time but Can't really study until I work for the zoo.
TheCandyArcade 1 year ago
After watching a Bonobo video the strangest thing happened to me, everyone (all humans) looked like primates/monkeys to me! I have never really doubted we are related to monkeys but it has never really seemed that way, now I can see it with my own two eyes, incredible! I'm not sure why no other primate has done this for me, I think it may be their eyes, more considered movements perhaps, they're very beautiful.
kiwidenk 1 year ago
bonobos according to what ive just read are not chimpanzees, however, they are apes, more closely related to us humans than they are chimps (b/c they are not chimps). Apparently the difference is seen in male agression. While chimps grow up and share less food with others, the bonobos continue to share and love, whereas chimps make war. Humans seem more like chimps than apes.
jjonas222 1 year ago 2
Jackass. Female Chimps do this too. IT's tragic how everything has been tarnished by activists.
BozoClownface 1 year ago
what a milf
generalberkay 1 year ago 2
eating, having sex and sleeping the whole day.
Giesi666 1 year ago
we are bonobo parents
bastien1seb 1 year ago
my wish is to be a bonobo
bicilbrasiliano 2 years ago 28
I wish I was a bonobo.
Bice404 2 years ago 6
this commentator offends me. "Don't believe it?" Because female dominant societies are SO unbelievable.. And don't sexualize the chimp. She's not a boss babe. She's a Bonobo. Would he call a dominant male a "hunk"? No, its particularly used to trivialize and sexualize female power - because sexual power is the only kind we understand/allow for females is our own society..
bhfabe 2 years ago 3
why arent you in the kitchen?
KIDDING!
thisissick22 2 years ago
I know! I hate how the annoucer trivializes the female leader calling her a boss and a babe. If it was a male, he would just say it ordinarily.
velocity246 2 years ago 5
@velocity246 nah American nature documentary narrators always say inane immature bullshit.
JustSiouxMe 3 weeks ago
Thats right babe get used to it we are stronger and will always be leaders of men lol and one more thing apes are ruled by male apes the world over don't believe it? lol its true
tool5150 2 years ago
You totaly right !!
bastien1seb 1 year ago
Bonobos arent CHIMPS!
lmrcobalt 2 years ago
they are a separate species of chimps
lovefordante 2 years ago
same genus different specie.
Grizzly0679 2 years ago
yes they are. They are pygmy chimps. There are two species of chimps in the genus Pan. The common chimpanzee and the bonobo.
Grizzly0679 2 years ago
they're just like us but lot uglier. the way they move is the same but somehow not very cool.
AZ091416 2 years ago
Yes very interesting as it would appear that female bonobos form close sexual relationships with each other and engage in tribadism
kakadu13 2 years ago
saggy
pjkj62 2 years ago
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Hey everyone. I just got home.
Man what a long hard day at work.
If it werent for videos like these I wouldnt know what to do with myself.
I love curling up alone in my bed, with some KY and beating up senselessly to the chimpanzees making passion hairy love.
After I finish myself off I like to curl up into a ball and weep to myself while I let my own protein soak into my hand.
fyourcouchnigga 2 years ago 18
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Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
@fyourcouchnigga possibly the most interesting comment ive seen on youtube
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fyourcouchnigga 1 year ago
you guys should check BONOBO the band and their song recurring!
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OhAnnaAnnaAnna 2 years ago
yahhhhh to right bonobo are amazing pick up is good!
kyleseancambridge 2 years ago
Boys rule!
betterbeavailable 2 years ago
Funny that females rule the society and it is the most sex based of all of monkey-dom. (I think they'll evolve into hippies)
TheLifeWeLiveEh 2 years ago
ti babies r soo cute i luv monkeys
sh4d0w4rri0r 2 years ago
turd
Rawrbrb696 2 years ago
the best part 1:17
tocoollucy 2 years ago
this babe is boss! yay, 5/5 video! :)
shairaptor 2 years ago
Ahah, just like humans!
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
Hey, don't some female Bonobos occasionally attempt male sexual behaviors?
AssholePatrol 2 years ago
The more I see chimps and bonobo monkeys the more I see us in them-even down to the walking. Now I read that humans and chimps have same amount of hair folicles, humans are not so thick and shorter.
benjaminjean1984 2 years ago
Men suck !
AnonymousCowardX 2 years ago
Boys drool, throw rocks at them!
Human females desire strong, and dominate men. Which makes one wonder why feminism exists.
Verlch 2 years ago
Women USED to be the dominate ones in human society too.
The diffrence is time just happened to make it they couldnt make the cut, that speed and agility were out matched by brawn and rational (not to say that women aren't rational, but test have been done and confirmed a far speedier problem solving ability within human males). Our prey just didn't need to be out ran when most were insects and the few could be out smarted and bludgeoned.
Berserker07 2 years ago
when exactly were women in charge? the Neanderthals and cro-magnons all were male dominant even earlier humans as well the only thing i can think of is in ancient Spartan Society from the 12 century BC where males and females held almost equal status
fallen4life080 2 years ago
The design of the female body is constistant with most predators much closer than with that of males. As well as seen with nearly all mammalian predators females are the norm for the hunters of the species.
With what we see from modern mammal predator societies it is being surmised in theory that humans most likely had a similar set up, with there being a alpha male being out ranked by a alpha female.
Realize though both my and your opinions are based of theorys that cannot ever be fact.
Berserker07 2 years ago
"The design of the female body is constistant with most predators much closer than with that of males"
How so? Detail pls
ngatfield 2 years ago
The female body is built for speed and agility rather than brute force, as is the same with most predators. It doesn't do a predator any good to be slow and strong but never actually able to catch its pray.
Earlier woman have been proven to have a much more streamline shape than the hourglass shape of modern woman maily lost to the fact of luxury beating necessity.
Also its been proven that even modern women have a much more sensitive sensory system than males, common amongst predator.
Berserker07 2 years ago
Bonobos are not chimps, they are a related species where the females are dominant.
In Chimp societies, the males are all dominant.
There is an environmental reason for the genetic differences in behavior.
In humans, our species is that the male is dominant, but through reason, we see value in both sexes, but the physical hormonal makeup and behavior, it is the male that is normally dominant. Fact.
truvelocity 2 years ago
Chimps aren't a Family thus their habits has no baring on the habits of humans.
You can use the Family Hominidae habits as a reflection of our own. Though even if you do this it has no baring. since no ape has had near the same carnivorous dependancy as humanity.
Though beyond this you haven't actually said anything, you said your OPINION then said "Fact" at the end. Every biologist knows you can never declare facts on theoretical behaviours which is above what you've done.
Berserker07 2 years ago
People call them "chimps" because they used to be called pygmy chimpanzees. :)
Iecerint 2 years ago 2
Well you made most of that up.
Mosniff 2 years ago
Yes because let me tell you. I went back in time and spread a FEV in early man to make women share the same characteristics of most mammalian predators.
That along side the fact that many "primitive" societies both existing today and those past, held woman in positions often in relations to the divine itself.
Do the world a favor and educate yourself before you talk.
Berserker07 2 years ago
While the female has always had a mystical meaning to humankind, there is little evidence of any ancient culture where they consistently held authority over men. The fact is that men on average are bigger and more aggressive, so can take power by force.
The secondary sex characteristics of women are exaggerated compared to other primates, which hints at their naturally selected role.
It's a good thing we live in the modern age tho, right? I think tough girls are hot.
Gesmehod 2 years ago
In ancient greece oracles (who were always women) were held in higher reguards than any kind, and even had the ability (and i believe enacted on it in several occasions) usurped kings from their thrones. As well a african shamaness (which is as close to a primitive culture as we will see in a modern world) is also held in such reguards, a large reason why the christian churches are having a problem usurping paganism in the regions.
Berserker07 2 years ago 2
I agree though, the human male characteristic has made it easy for them to put themselves in a high possision quickly
But the female characteristics have been enlarged by it no longer being necessary for them to need to fight, and procreation being a then found higher role.
But yes it is good we live in a modern world, were brute force rarely means powerment.
Berserker07 2 years ago
Perhaps not holding authority over men but certainly being more respected by them.
Bumblybee256 2 years ago
Yeah, mate, I'm totally with you there.
ezekielwahwah 2 years ago
thats why they were primitive though.
SIRA063 2 years ago
bonobos are NOT chimps!there smarter yet weaker,but still able to kick any humans ass
bluegama500 2 years ago
The Bonobo (IPA: /bə'noʊboʊ/[3], Pan paniscus), which, until recently, usually was called the Pygmy Chimpanzee and less often, the Dwarf or Gracile Chimpanzee,[4] is a great ape and one of the two species making up the genus, Pan. The other species in genus Pan is Pan troglodytes, or the Common Chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" sometimes is used to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the Common Chimpanzee.
nova62400 2 years ago 2
Bonobos are NOT chimps, they're bonobos! ugh! Like calling chimps monkeys, it makes me crazy. NG should know better, That being said, don't bonobos just rock?! They are much more "human" than chimps...physiologically and for lack of a better way of putting it, :psychologically". Much more peaceful animals than chimps.
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The Bonobo (IPA: /bə'noʊboʊ/[3], Pan paniscus), which, until recently, usually was called the Pygmy Chimpanzee and less often, the Dwarf or Gracile Chimpanzee,[4] is a great ape and one of the two species making up the genus, Pan. The other species in genus Pan is Pan troglodytes, or the Common Chimpanzee. Although the name "chimpanzee" sometimes is used to refer to both species together, it is usually understood as referring to the Common Chimpanzee.
nova62400 2 years ago
Bonobos are the most interesting apes. The fact that they're female run made them more interesting to me. The way they solve conflicts is far better than the way chimps do. I need to write a 12 page paper on them in a month.
SexyScientist6 2 years ago 2
yeah, they have sexual intercourse when they make peace, when they find new resources, sort of everybody with everyone celebration, sex for trade, same sex sex, at least it's not complicated to write about. :)
dado1802 2 years ago
Along with the Common Chimpanzee, the Bonobo is the closest extant relative to humans.
Oh, and male dominance is universal only to Western civilization, not all humans.
Abashi76 2 years ago 2
Do apes have souls?
TheLogicalTheist 2 years ago
yes they do
p179894 2 years ago
How do you know ever asked them. =)
cocoyodariver 2 years ago
No such thing as a "soul", so no.
logik316 2 years ago 2
"No such thing as a "soul", so no."
Next thing you'll tell me is that there is no such thing as a leprechaun. :(
TheLogicalTheist 2 years ago 3
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gypsyearthspirit 2 years ago
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No apes do not have souls. That includes humans (humans are apes).
opiates 2 years ago
You just don't know what you're talking about...
resendess 2 years ago
I've been dead before and I know what lies beyond this life... NOTHING. So no, we do not have souls and neither do other apes or animals.
opiates 2 years ago
And btw I love it how people like yourself automatically lash out at and attack me when I say that. What I say is much more rational than some religious nutjob going on about how people and animals like monkeys and apes and shit go to heaven. It's like they're scared that what I say about death is the truth. They can't handle the fact that there's nothing after death and are afraid. There's nothing to be afraid of. It'll be just like it was before birth. Was that scary? No.
opiates 2 years ago
Well if you studied a little philosophy (Plato&Aristotle, Aquinas and Bergson, mainly), you would know that the immortality of the soul is the most rational position to hold. Please don't just bluntly say "no it isn't" with a few superficial reasons to believe the opposite, there are none that haven't been dealt with :).
resendess 2 years ago
Yea I have studied some. Their work is interesting but I do my own thinking. As for this so called immaterial soul, there's no reason to believe it exists until there's some kind of tangible evidence to show it does. That's how science works. I'm not saying, "the soul doesn't exist" (even though I truly believe it doesn't because when I died, I went to Mu (look it up) and ceased to exist), but rather "there's no reason to believe it exists". I'm not as closed minded as you may think.
opiates 2 years ago
"No tangible evidence" : do you have tangible evidence that two contradictory assertions cannot both be true or false at the same time? No. Yet science and maths use this notion (amongst Aristotle's other self-evident pricipals), except in some very particular realms which haven't been fully or perfectly explored yet (see Heisenberg's works).
And science isn't the only source of knowledge. In fact, science in a way is an uncertain way of getting to facts (=>induction).
resendess 2 years ago
To think that only science can get to the truth is self-contradictory, because that mere statement does not come from any scientific experiment ^^. It is self-refuting.
resendess 2 years ago
How is the soul defined and where is the evidence for it? If you define the soul as the consiousness, then it dies with the brain because consiousness is simply the product of a working brain.
johnd94 2 years ago
"Consciousness is simply the product of a working brain" => False : Animals have working brains but are not "conscious" in that sense : they have so to say the feeling of themselves but not their own consciousness. An animal for instance is incapable of any form of introspection.
resendess 2 years ago
It depends on the animal. The more advanced the brain, the more advanced the consiousness. An advanced brain with an advanced consiousness is hardly a soul. Find me a neurologist who doesn't think that consiousness comes from the brain.
johnd94 2 years ago
I'm not going to argue, if you don't have the basics I'm not going to teach them to you. "Les animaux ont le sentiment de soi, non pas la conscience". That solves the problem. No philosopher will disagree. No neurologist or whatever either. Find me neurologist who believes animals are capable of introspection, it'll make me laugh... You just don't know what you are talking about... I'm not going to kill myself answering comments if they are nonsensical. Back to college is the best solution.
resendess 2 years ago
I never stated that animals are capable of introspection, that would require a more advanced brain which they do no have because they have not evolved like humans have. Philosophy has nothing to do with how the brain works. An assertion in french is the same as an assertion in english.
johnd94 2 years ago
"An animal for instance is incapable of any form of introspection."
How do we know this?
jedediahd24 2 years ago 2
resendess:
I'll stick my neck out here...your's is the better analysis of the several herein. True, bonobos, chimps, etc., have no sense of their own mortality. And that is key to what is animal-animal and Human-animal. Regardless, even my dog shows what I would call love and affection. He responds to himself in the mirror, and tries to make the car go by inserting keys with paw on the shift. So, regardless of brain-status, all animals deserve fair treatment at our hands.
aliveinsd 2 years ago 2
Oh of course, I'm not saying that all this is a justification to any ill-treatment !
resendess 2 years ago 2
Johnd94, this might sound silly, but one way to define a soul is "the awareness that persists after the body's link, the mind, is no longer functioning". I personally believe souls exist. Not because I think I can prove it to skeptics, but because I have faith in things that can exist beyond direct tangible detection, like my faith in electrons. Claiming the EFFECT that "electrons" display in electronics as proof is no different than claiming the EFFECT that "souls" display in the mind as proof.
Asparition 2 years ago
1)It does sound silly. You don't have any evidence to support your belief and you happily admit it. This is irrational.
2) You don't have faith in electrons. Your belief in electrons is based on evidence, but regardless. Electrons have been detected and proven to have an effect on chemicals.. Since there is no evidence for the soul itself, it IS silly to claim that it has an effect on anything.
johnd94 2 years ago 3
Perhaps I should be more specific in my example of our scientific FAITH in our knowledge of electrons. We can assume that because electrons exist, then they MUST have a definite momentum and a definite location at any given point in time. I personally think that when something in "science" is IMPOSSIBLE to accurately measure like this, people accept it (Heisenburg says). But when it comes to something deemed "magical" like faith in the soul, skeptics protest because IT cannot be fully quantized.
Asparition 2 years ago
Yes, there is uncertainty in science, especially in areas such as quantom mechanics. However, it is not as if there is simply uncertainty about the nature of the soul, there isn't any evidence of it in any way, shape or form.
johnd94 2 years ago 2
I would say there is evidence that having a soul is impossible.
watch?v=NrbFPSznUDA
HoleDweller 2 years ago
No. Just no. There is no such thing as "faith" in science.
The difference is we have empirical evidence as to the existence of particles. Quantum mechanics is backed by mathematical formulas and years of research.
Science can be questioned, it IS questioned. And when it is, there is a method in which it is questioned. THAT isn't faith.
kimjuszczak 2 years ago 51
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Define the word however you wish, but FAITH basically means belief in something that cannot be fully proven. Any scientific theory is based on a form of mechanized faith. Hypotheses, which can be tested, are of course NOT faith. But just because something is intangible to current technologies doesn't PROVE its inexistence. I'm not saying I know of any evidence proving the existence of the soul, but I am saying that areas of science depend on equally far-fetched assumptions. Always remember that.
Asparition 2 years ago
"but I am saying that areas of science depend on equally far-fetched assumptions"
"Equally" far-fetched?
That's a huge stretch. There isn't even a minimal amount of evidence to suggest the existence of a soul.
ikvsabre 2 years ago
@kimjuszczak science is an structure of belives, like any other kind, it's not better and it's not the best.
caclech 1 year ago
@caclech Science is a way of understanding.It is used to form rational beliefs when its method is properly applied.
To this day, the scientific method has proven to be the best way of accurately understanding the universe, as is made evident by the fruit (occasionally poisonous though nevertheless ACCURATE) that it has born.
But if you have found a better "structure of belief*" as you seem to think you have, then by all means, share. It must be something quite profound indeed.
Walabinx 1 year ago
@Walabinx
I don't get you at all. Science can't be good. All that education, learning, experimentation, research and argumentation with other scientists.
It's really much easier to make up whatever you feel like. My own preference is for the cow to be jumping over a moon made out of green cheese.
And supersonic flying pigs (but only on the Summer Solstice).
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
@patrickcorliss You were wrong to think that in your sarcasm you sound intelligently witty. Your attempt to make unscientific claims sound ridiculous is, well... ridiculous.
Of course under such a juvenile understanding of Flying Pigs, any fool can make the belief sound silly. But if we're to view Flying Pigs in a more sophisticated manner, then we come to understand that they are actually flying at near light speed. The very fact that we can't detect them at all is UNDENIABLE PROOF of this.
Walabinx 1 year ago
@Walabinx
Look I know lots of religious scientists who can disprove whatever you prove. All it takes is belief in witchcraft, black magic and numerolgy.
You are an Aries, I can tell that. And the letters in your name add up to 13 to the power of 13 minus 1. You should know I'm on the Very Bright side.
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
can you imagine non existing and all are doing is trying tl piss people off
sanandreas818 2 years ago
Can you imagine proper use of grammar, spelling, and a basic understanding of language syntax?
opiates 2 years ago
dont talk down to me answer my question.
sanandreas818 2 years ago
That wasn't a question, that was a cluster of nonsense.
opiates 2 years ago 2
whatever
sanandreas818 2 years ago
:-)
opiates 2 years ago
Wow I wanna be a man in such society. NO RESPONSIBILITY!
jankren 2 years ago 10
@jankren notice a common social characteristic (and physical and mental) running through bonobo society and negroes?
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
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And also redneck hillbillies.
jankren 1 year ago
@jankren the redneck/white trash/kkk thing doesn't work. I've never been south or met one. I am very well educated and thoroughly versed on both the biological and anthropological failings of the negroid.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
@BrendanIsCool
Yeah whats your credential? Professor of Negros Suck and Crackas Rule? LOL!
jankren 1 year ago
@jankren I can PM you my CV if you wish. I am a professor of medicine and surgery with a medical degree and PhD in virology.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
@BrendanIsCool
A professor with 'BrendanIsCool' as a username. HAHAHA!
U r just some 15 year old who visits Stormfront as his favorite pastime.
jankren 1 year ago
@jankren awaiting pm.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
Wow. A tribe of hairy people :-)
logik316 2 years ago 2
yeah in your house its the same way.
ewew43 2 years ago
Fun Fact: Bonobos have sex ALL DAY LONG! And they do everything you can think of, and I mean EVERYTHING.
grandpaegg 3 years ago 6
That's true...chimps got all the ugliness of humanity, and bonobos got our sex practices.
arroyomusic 2 years ago 3
Any one else find the narrator to be an annoying muppet? Who the hell writes a narration like that to a natural history film? 'That's one hot babe!'. Give me a break.
jollypilgrim 3 years ago 3
@jollypilgrim Americans, thats who.
JustSiouxMe 3 weeks ago
in the human society, it's the males that rule the world.
CoraxTheCold 3 years ago
study anthropology for a bit, and you'll find out that there are many egalitarian and matriarchal human societies. "western society" doesn't equal "human society".
NicolaMonk 3 years ago 2
"many" not mostly
CoraxTheCold 3 years ago
And this is not a good thing, putting males in charge.
selatik1 2 years ago
obnoxious narrator.
KingofLuna 3 years ago
Who cares who is a male or a female we are humans thats all -_-' Rofl
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xBagelzx 3 years ago
Both the common chimp (pan troglodyte) and the bonobo (pan paniscus) are under the genus "Pan", so in English they are both known to be types of chimpanzees (or Pans in latin)
djs892 3 years ago
Bonobos are not chimps, altough considered to be at one time. They were discovered only recently and infact are called the exact opposite of chimps.. they have sex frequently, to end arugments. Chimps have 1 alpha male, and they often gain up in various ways to overcome him. Bonobo femal apes run a tight ship, and it has worked wonderfully for them...
KWalk143 3 years ago
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funny how you can say that about women, when they actually perform much better then men at schools, meaning they're generally smarter.
And whats up with all the racism?
bababuba 3 years ago
it was first MAN on the moon baby, BOOM HEADSHOT!
matteocappella 3 years ago
They didn't let women in space in the first place.
IdontlikeusingLOL 3 years ago
It's well know that girls are actually caught cheating more and that boys can do better when there is a male teach when its the oppisite with females. Also its not racism its sexism
IdontlikeusingLOL 3 years ago
Are girls smarter or just more motivated?
Niemenzki 3 years ago 2
stop thinking and get in the fucking kitchen
Brisks 3 years ago
The only reason bonobos are lead by the females is that they haven't evolved to build kitchens yet. :p
I jest, I jest.
(but do I?)
Yes.
Zekkron 3 years ago
yea dude your an ass
thats why more women are in universities then men today
we don't want to deal with fools like you
Ipodwitlegs 3 years ago
I'm in uni bitch. Politics and Social Policy!
Brisks 3 years ago
yeah more women in art programs and humanities but the rest is still 4 men. althought theres more women in overall the outsmarts are always men.
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legorret1 3 years ago
I find it funny how the comments on this video have turned into an argumentive sex war. It goes to show that humans are very much primates.
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