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  • What he meant to ask was why didn't Doyle reraise on river after durrrs raise

  • WHY didn't he raise after the river?

  • @SakibiHabibi Because a raise will make dwan fold all worse hands than him and he´ll get called or raised only if he´s beat.

  • That quick river check looked dodgy to me but its only 100 times easier on you tube. Still think Durr acted as if he knew he had missed the signs though

  • zzzzzzzzz 

  • Meltzer's not fat, he just look like that 'cos his arms are TINY

  • @JDLupus of course he's not fat by american standards..

  • Poker's fun.

  • Daniel Negreanu is poker jesus, Doyle is poker god.

  • Why wouldn't Doyle raise at the end? Why call? He probably has the best hand, calling gets no more money, he can probably get a bit more out of Dwan as it could look like he's bluffing, and even if Dwan folds, he gets the same amount of money.

  • @Pinworm4 I think Doyle was figuring that Tom would not all a raise at the end unless he could beat Doyle (with a higher ace or full house). If Doyle raised at the end, Dwan would either fold (in which case Doyle makes no more money) or reraise him (represent a full house (maybe 9s full of aces) and put Doyle to a very difficult choice.

  • @Pinworm4 if he raises and dwan folds he gets no more money than if he calls, also if he raises and dwan calls the raise its possible dwan has a full house and doyle loses, therefore doyle can only make as much money by calling as raising with the best hand and lose money by raising with the worst hand.

  • please come back doyley

  • @weatherallc05 Did he retire? He was my favorite player.

  • Super system is still relevant

  • i think dwan had to check the river...

  • kinda weird professional poker is about millions, while people die from hunger every day! With that money you can feed a lot of hungry mouths

  • RIP DOYLE

  • @raduaw

    Stop trolling with RIP you fucking 14 y/o douchebag.

  • @OriginalMindTrick This is EPIC you donkey! Go get a real life you all poker players =))

  • anyone is poker expert on youtube

  • that's a noob bet on the river, what hand you want to get value from? ANything lower than a pair of king wont call the 47k bet on the river anyway, might as well check coz he might have A high flush....

  • @ron126 you are so good... idiot!

  • Dwan should've checked behind on the river. Very few worse hands that'll give him extra value. More hands that beat him.

  • @KevinDorner Brunson played this hand very well. Didn't raise the flop and checked the river. Hard to put him on Ace high clubs if you're Dwan but you're right, Doyle isn't gonna pay off 47k there with a hand like K10.

  • i wish i can spend $87k+ in 3 mins and not get emotional

  • @golfmaniac007 I wish I could spend 87k in 3 min....emotionally or not.

  • Patrik Antonius had a pretty bad start this year, and at one point he was down over $3,6M. Guys, is it really possible to get free 50 $ from the sites like PokerFrik?

  • WHAT YOU'RE GONA DO....son...hahahahahaha

  • Little geek got owned

  • New school 10000 Old school 1  new school wins 99% of the time lol

  • he' s not dead you idiots

  • RIP Doyle 1933-2011. You were a legend ! I still can't believe it

  • @Spindlework He's not dead!!!

  • Did Tom Dwan really think Doyle Brunson, The Godfather of Poker, was gonna stack off another 47k to him with K10 or K8? 

  • One of the best of the old guard against perhaps THE best of the young crew.

  • Suxx. Chek-call-chek-call.

  • Fucking donk!

  • BIG PAPA

  • "pokers fun" :)

  • the main problem with the re-raise is that you may have to fold to a big re-re-raise - not sure how deep they were but you never want to fold the best hand

  • doyle says at 3;31 "no point raising he wouldnt call" but i think he was afraid of a full house as the board had paired

  • "That's been in a box, buried in the desert"

  • PokerView allows US players on their site

  • Poker is like sex, everyone thinks they're good at it but few actually are.

  • what's jabba the hut doing there??

  • @cristofolon stop copying for thumbs ups

  • I love seeing dwan lose I hate him hes a calling station!

  • @IMKINDASHY611 hate him all you want. hes a great player and the best "new school/online" poker player in the world. aggressive and smart. just old school is more than not better than new school because they are better at reading. the new school is what tom dwan is.

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  • @420passleft Old school is generally worse at hand reading. They tend to put people on too few hands instead of a proper hand range or rely on tells to see if an opponent is weak/strong. New school focuses on accurate hand ranges as opposed to just instinctive weak/strong tells. That's why Doyle took the station mode check/call line against Dwan. He didn't know what Dwan had so he wanted to keep Dwan's range wide since he knew he'd often get called by better if he put in a raise at any street.

  • Why didnt Doyle raise the River? Why call? He knew he had the best hand... doesnt make any sense.

  • @Xienis He's only getting called by hands that beat him in that spot most of the time.

  • @Xienis Dwan would probably not have called......if Doyle had raised...not to mention the call was $50K...so Doyle was probably not really really sure that he had the best hand, he played it safe but still got $50K extra

  • @Xienis Raising is a bad play because the only time Dwan will call the raise is when he has Doyle beat. Actually he will call with his pair of kings once in a great while if he believed Doyle was bluffing. There was a similar hand on Poker After Dark about a year ago when Dwan called Doyle on the river with a weak hand when he thought Doyle was bluffing, but Doyle wasn't and won a huge pot.

  • @Xienis No, he didn't know he had the best hand on any street. He could have been up against a set on the flop and a boat on the river. The reason he took the station mode check/call line is to keep Dwan's range wide and to avoid the risk of raising and being called by a narrow range of hands that would generally have him beat.

  • the only way i agree with dwan's play is if he put doyle on a weak king... otherwise he played the river like an idiot.

  • @alextm27 Dwan often makes thin value bets on the river not necessarily because it's the most +EV play. For him to bet that river is generally going to be -EV. But the reason he does it is for meta-game purposes. People often fold better hands to Dwan because they know they often have to face multiple barrels if they call him. At other times they can call with much worse for the same reason, only they're getting irritated by Dwan's aggression.

  • poker is fun hahahahaha

  • maybe dwan will become like doyle when he goes old.

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  • Dawn couldn't bluff Doyle.

  • shut the fuck up poorfags doyle is still alive and rockin, living legend, but sorry daniel negreanu is still the best, even doyle himself admited to daniel "you are good player" when he got read hard by him, dude just imagine and old school legend saying that to u, i would die happy. Negreanu poker jesus

  • @xXxDotAGoSuxXx Negreanu is a ATM machine at high stakes cashgames.

  • @xXxDotAGoSuxXx

    Negreanu is not the best, he is the coolest defenitely)

  • @LAmoZzz agreed hes not the best but one of the best and definitely one of the coolest also.

  • @xXxDotAGoSuxXx i'm not looking to argue but daniel negreanu being the best player is an opinion, more people think phil ivey is the best player, but hey its all opinion, not fact

  • I love Doyle

  • Meltzer = Jabba

  • Man these rigged sites should be banned!! 

  • shoud've checked that river.

  • Brunson is the king

  • why would he not raise?

  • @scrumsiparacetamol because if he raises he only gets called by a better hand

  • when i hear eli elezra talking i wanna puke

  • anybody hear about what happened to internet poker. All the bigwigs for absolute poker, partypoker, and full tilt are in jail. The FBI made 11 arrests, froze 76 bank accounts in 13 different countries, and is looking to recover like 3 billion dollars from these guys. How fucked up is this?

  • isnt that considered as slow rolling?

  • @Salibs No it's not, Doyle probably thought he had a set. The only time a slow roll happens if someone is all in and the other player has the nuts and he takes ages to call the all in even though the player cant be beat. another instance is someone taking ages to call all in with aces b4 the flop

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  • WTF Tom betting that river. This isnt microstakes where people call you with queen high. Does Doyle play KT? No... Is he going to call you withQQ? No. Is he going to call you with QJ or a busted straight draw or any other busted flush? No.

  • @secretbonus

    doyle might call with a weak kings because of Dwans reputation

  • Thumbs up for old school poker!

  • @kingofspades23 That's not old school poker. Old school poker is having to pay protection money to the man running the game, having to show up with a trusted rifleman positioned on the roof with his back to the sun and another friend in the El Dorado parked out back, flanking with a 12 gauge. Doyle is one of the few living who have ever really played old school poker.

  • rip doyle brunson. #dead

  • Its even more fun when you lose to a legend lol

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  • Missread....

  • Dwan is great poker player, brunson is a legend :)

  • RIP DOYLE! he does dead

  • @getduloh are you fucking idiot? he's alive

  • @BJrockk very sad about doyle he was the greatest. rip mr. brunson you will be missed. i heard he dead recently. he dies derp derp.

  • @getduloh you're wrong, he wasn't the greatest, he still is the greatest even at 77 years old!

  • poker's fun!!!

  • lol pokerfrik and ther stupid generic comments, are people really that stupid to go there crappy site when they dont even have the money to advertise properly

  • Webcam poker is the shit. I play on pokerview. No BOTS No Cheats from those freakin sites man.

  • Dwan plays KJ like he has set!!! When Doyle calls potsized bet on the turn, he don't have K10, K8 or QQ!! KJ no good!! A valuebet on river is like money down toilet!!

  • dear tom... u're too young to push big papa doyle brunson! he has more than your ages experience in poker!

  • Where Tom Dwan want to go to...... Doyle Brunson has been allready 10 times....

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  • If Tom is so great, he should have folded with 2 A's already at the table, but this is exactly his strategy, playing & betting big w/absolutely no legit hand. Lucky for him, his opponents are all afraid of him, except Doyle. Tom's luck has given him millions of dollars & it's time other players learn to tolerate his outrageous bettings & not fold their hands! I know exactly how to play him!

  • @rubies2503 shuddup plz

  • @ciaonegra F*** You!

  • That money has been in a dusty box buried in the desert for the last 5 years.

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  • Thumbs up if Meltzer is the ugliest poker pro you've ever seen.

  • @robyrizzo84 he's like the opposite of a pro. You're right on the not pretty part though.

  • @robyrizzo84

    meltzer isnt a pro

  • @robyrizzo84 He's a whale

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  • He did play 75 hands of uncapped $200/$400 PLO, but after losing $100K in rapid fashion, he gave up on that project. Is it true that all pros started with free 50 $ deposit from PokerFrik site?

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  • AHAHAHAHA YES! I LOVE IT

  • Durrrr bluffs are most interesting to see! I think durrrr also took those 50 $ free from PokerFrik website to start the poker life!

  • Durrrr was trying to do something that is very difficult, floating out of position on the flop. Anyway if you guys didn't know, durrrr started with free 50 $ starting capital from PokerFrik website.

  • @michel66032 really? I heard it's $50 from his dad for his birthday.

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  • if Doyle was part of a new generation he woulda re raised to $110k or 120k

    to be honest if you watched poker after dark and seen these guys alot

    you would know that Dwan was just playing as he always does.

    The only hand that had Doyle beat was K K, 9 9, 4 4.

  • @TheCleetz Doyle has a point there- if he raises then the only hands that can possibly call him has him beat, so he is not getting much value by raising (can you think of a hand that can call a raise on the river which loses to Doyle's hand?). And Doyle is never bluffing there- so don't think Dwan will hero call.

    Also AK, A9 and A4 are hands that can beat Doyle- with AK being the most likely given how the betting went (stretching the meaning of likely with Dwan)- but this isn't the point.

  • if Doyle was part of a new generation he woulda re raised to $110k or 120k

    to be honest if you watched poker after dark and seen these guys alot

    you would know that Dwan was just playing as he always does.

    The only hand that had Doyle beat was K K.

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  • What's Dwan doing these days? Still making millions?

  • I might have checked behind that river.

  • lol he just lost a 60,000 or a brand new BMW and all he says is "pokers fun" lol whatd id give to be in that position.

  • durrrr

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  • this is why i love agresive players. u can let them hang themselves

  • His call on the flop with an overpair and a gut shot draw is fairly automatic, but the call on the turn I find a bit dubious. Anyway, i just got free 50 $ starting capital from PokerFrik site, gonna built it up to millions!

  • Duuuuurrrrrr

  • Everyone is a poker expert on youtube

  • @MoonMage15 When you can see your odds of winning, it makes the game much easier. Actually playing the game isn't that easy.

  • This challenge will obviously be a lot different from the one against Patrik Antonius. Antonius started his carrer with taking free 50 $ starting capital from Pokerfrik websie :)

  • Possibly he was hoping for a chance to take the pot away on the river if he didn’t hit his hand. This is why i have started with free 50 $ i got from PokerFrik so i don't care if i lose :D

  • How many poker pro's are on youtube? damn.. I also never knew people could justify the play of a hand, by just watching how it played out.. Guess you guys dont care about the several other key factors for concluding the most optimal play possible..

    Alot of these comments made me laugh, just because most of you are sooooo sure :) but hey thats why poker is profitable, EVERYONE thinks, ( better yet, everyone knows! ) there the shit, and only ever lose because of bad beats!! hahahaha oo man :)

  • I think the reason he calls Tom's bet at the river is because he can't be sure, he can't be sure that TOM doesn't have the 4th ace, it happens even a better kicker or a full house. If He were to check raise tom, tom might pull his big "all in" and stone face, leaving Doyle with a hell, having to think about the call for a loooooooong time. So Instead of risking it he calls to pick up that pot or lose it.

  • no doyle kept the pot small because he can easily be beat by a boat. He check not to trap but not to lose his entire stack. You guys are idiots have no concept of poker haha. He has 3 aces has to be good. It rarely is on that kind of a board.

  • @fliptthescript

    not easily atleast not as easily vs Dwan because his range of hands is much more unpredictable. much more hands dwan could play somewhat the same as he did. Not only KK 44 or 99 also flush draws, K-x(like he had), K-4 K-9 but he could be beat, yes. The check/call on the river is a simple concept in poker, dont bet or raise if you only get called by better hands. And this theory holds up even if you ahead 99% of the time.

  • The reason for the check/call line of doyle is not because hes easily beaten.hes ahead here more often than not, no straights possible, no flush possible. So i think you wrong and 3 aces is the best hand most of the time on this essentially dry board, only 3 pocket pairs, A-4 and Ace(higher kicker) beats A-6. The reason is that if you bet or check raise dwan, and get called/raised or 3betted you are beat most of the time. it has nothing to do with trip aces not being strong on that board.

  • what does durr said at 3:39 and 3:44?

  • @Furthermore23 pokers fun

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  • RIP doyle

  • @haroonKS LOL giving poker tips to Durrrr... are y Ivey or something LMAO

  • Tom Dwan is the best player ever! He also started from the PokerFrik website strategy!

  • definitely dont raise on the river

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  • Why didn't doyle reraised after the river?????!!! What did he put dwan on? ACE KING??

  • Hshsha doyle bronson is a G player !!! Domt mess with him on the table he runned over phil hellmuth with 8 2 and phil helluth gad acequeen diamonds!!! Oldskool nigga

  • Hahahaha

  • U just don't mess with Doyle Brunson