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  • You should be a 508 IRS Church which is exempted from their corporate taxes. A 508 also exempts a lawful de jure governments from taxion, as today all de facto corporate governments have a tax ID number to operate. The IRS INC is a foreign off shore private corporation and works for the UN/IMF to collect a tax on the Federal Reserve Notes we call money. It goes to say What part of 'NO LAW ' don't they understand?

    I have posted a video on you tube...God v IRS Inc. chk out other videos too.

  • Neither Obama on TV nor Reverend Wright in the pulpit will tell you this information. They're too phat and rich from the Washington DC policy. Pastor Greg Dixon delivers this much needed modern-day sermon about the relationship of politics in Americas' churches. 501 c 3

    Ron Paul - the only Congressman to stand up against the IRS as Federal Marshals seized the Indianapolis Baptist Temple on February 13, 2001

  • @regina. Only took 2 years? I'll be expecting your next insightful and educated posting in 2013.

  • THE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST SHALL OBEY THE VERY FIRST COMMANDMENT AND BOW TO NO ONE BUT JESUS. WE ARE THE FREEST PEOPLE ON EARTH AS LONG AS WE OBEY G-D RATHER THAN MAN. WE MUST FACE ANY FURNACE THAT CONFRONTS US (SHADRACH, MESHACH, ABEDNIGO) AND RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM US.

    BELIEVE AND BE DELIVERED.

    JOIN THE REVOLUTION-BE A DOER OF THE WORD AND NOT JUST A HEARER-VOTE RON PAUL IN THE 2012 PRIMARY!!!!

    STAND WITH YOUR BALLOT OR FALL WITH THE BULLET. PAUL 2012!!!!

  • Yeah, they were the victims of BP oil leaks. Where were they when people are protesting about it?

  • a church is a "business" and it should be taxed as such. plain and simple !!!

  • The sons of the kings of the earth are free from taxation.

  • No substantial part of the activities of ______________________________­___(your Church's name here) shall be dedicated to, or otherwise attempt to influence United States State or Federal legislation, and the corporation shall not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office.

  • A church is a religious origination? Yes it absolutely is. What else is it?

    Awww poor fella having to pay taxes.

  • The churches that came out for one side or the other should have lost tax exemption immediately.

  • The truth is that the churches DO enjoy the same freedoms as the rest of us while the rest of us foot the bill. Freedoms provided to them like police protection, fire department protection and military protection yet they refuse to pay for them. They will send our soldiers care packages but won't pitch in to buy the soldiers a fucking helmet! The want to have a voice in politics, well then pay the entry fee like the rest of us !!!

  • @smackfanatic

    The MEMBERS of the churches pay all the taxes. Churches are not businesses. They are not UNDER government nor are they above it.

  • @smackfanatic I bet you are a fag. Just a strong hunch. (no pun intended ;-)

  • ppl are missing the point. The Baptist Temple doesn't WANT tax exemp status. They do not want any HELP from the government financial or otherwise. That would be REAL seperation of church and state, but the government wants to be able to have their mitts in everything, including the chuches.

  • Why do churches need tax exempt status?

    Because "God" has a shitty accountant.

    These fuckers take money from poor people to finance their mega churches and mansions. They are evil.

  • >_> If you're found not to be a religious organization under the definition laid down in the tax code, you won't be considered a religious organization under the tax code?

    Those bastards!

  • What about the Knights of Columbus? Are they tax exempt?

  • Most likely. They are a part of the Catholic Church I believe.

  • Well they are most definately crossing the line between church and state. They pre-dominately support republican candidates.

  • No they don't! They don't support Republican or Democratic candidates. They mainly support Libertarian or other third party candidates. The only Republican candidate that they have supported is Ron Paul, and he is practically a Libertarian.

  • I can't find the site of theirs I was referencing. I found it 8 months ago. They were endorsing John McCain. Do democrats claim to be pro-life? Knights of Columbus as far as I can tell will only support pro-life candidates.

  • Also, show me where at in the Constitution where you see the words seperation of church and state? Also, another question, was it ok for the churches that are predominately African-American in membership to support Obama or any other Presidential candidate who is a democrat? I saw a lot of articles getting the reaction of African-American churches when he was elected but is anyone going to speak out about a violation of their 501c3 status or the "speration of church and state"?

  • I'll have to get back to you on your question re:constitution. As for your question about Obama, I personally feel no one is above the law. If there is supposed to be separation of church and state it should apply to all churches. Unfortunately our constitution is practically non-existent at this point. I have been told by someone who works for homeland security that the NAU is most definately being set up as we speak.

  • Yup, that I can agree with you on. That the NAU is being set up.

  • Surely a tax-exempt org. can pay at least 5 or 10% in taxes! That's all I'd ask. Organizations that make more can pay more, a progressive taxation of orgs. It just makes sense. I'm sick of the freeloading. Every major organization registered with gov't should pay its admission fee. If you make money, whether profit or donations, you should pay. In the end, it's still technically income. So it falls under income tax.

  • maybe it would help if you understood that the fact still remains that this CHURCH or assembly of believers doesnt desire any cushy help from the irs. :O)

  • If a church wants to be political, it can form its own separate political organization! But don't go around preaching politics from the pulpit! The difference between churches and the other tax-exempt orgs. is that the others DON'T usually preach politics and endorse candidates. Churches do. Churches violate their right to be neutral and tax-exempt when they get involved. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

  • Actually, the IRS is DEFENDING separation of church and state by cracking down on churches who abuse their cushy tax-exempt status for politics. Churches have sermons to teach the ways of the Bible, not to preach politics! Stay the fuck out of the political arena if you don't wanna pay taxes. You wanna get involved? Pay your fucking admission fee like everyone else. Don't be a fucking freeloader. God hates people who don't pay their dues, right?

    This is not a free speech issue.

  • These scum bag pastors do not pay any taxes, and they are not supposed to be pimping for republican candidates. Make them pay income taxes if they get political

  • it brakes down to being issued a marriage license. vatican london dc research it. churches are state owned. why do you think they used chuch buses when they kidnapped all those children and there parents.

  • So, the only reason the IRS provides the Form 1023 is for churches that want to offer their members a tax-deduction for their gifts. Perhaps the churches do that to encourage more giving. Or, maybe they think that's the only way they can get offerings from some members. Or, maybe they are just ignorant of the identity and purpose of the genuine New Testament Christian church anyway.

  • That basically it. What the 501c3 allows is for you to tell the congregation that,"Hey, if you give the church money you'll just get paid back in April when you claim it all on your taxes." In exchange for churches to stop talking about anything really controversial (like homosexuality, abortion, political candidates and various other things that are hot topics in Washington.)

    Now, Dr. Dixon and IBT has never supported a Republican candidate. In fact, they invite all parties to speakatchurch

  • The 1st Amendment protects the church from being subject to government regulation and taxation. Moreover, even Form 1023, which is the government application form (i.e. contract) for tax exempt recognition, clearly and explicitly states that churches are already considered and recognized as tax exempt even if they do not file Form 1023.

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