for those americans that protest against their goverment because they sent money to georgia, don't forget that 2,000 of our soldiers served in iraq and noe 1,000 are serving in afghanistan and i think all americans should respect that.
1.8million years old culture has never consisted of conquering anyone!Georgians would not do whatever they didn't do during those years!It is simply not a part of their psychology to attack anyone!While russia has always been attacking and it continues to do so!
I know it is amazing to imagine that we have so old culture but try not to show your lack of knowledge in your cynical comments!
Why do so many famous Russian writers and journalists support Georgian, American, and European facts and admit the Russian government is lying??
Panfilov, Novordvorskaya, Politikovskaya (RIP), Romanova, Piontkovsky, Agaev, Bukovsky, Yavlinsky, even Chessmaster Kasparov and many more.
Also, over a dozen famous political opponents of Putin murdered in cold blood and nobody ever put on trial? Politikovskaya murdered on Putins birthday? Wow...Russians are born liars and denial masters.
Sakashvilli is another oil rat in the backpocket of Corporate Boyzz in the White Whore. Cheney is shitting in his fatpants and his pigskin bypass is ready to burst as his handlers give him his marching orders to guard the further breakup of an oil rich area, further complicating his boys' headaches. Thanks Ossettia! Thanks Russia! Notice. Little coverage paid to Iran. The big bad nuclear "threat" off da' stove.
Money and oil on da' front burna'. Oh! Sing dem' black gold derrick blues!
Human Rights Watch has documented the Russian military's use of indiscriminate force and its seemingly targeted attacks on civilians, including on civilian convoys. The deliberate use of force against civilians or civilian objects is a war crime. Human Rights Watch has also confirmed the Russian military's use of cluster bombs in S.Ossetia and two towns in Georgia.
To the lovers of Official 9/11 Government Fantasy, I boldly point you to where you scared rabbits fear to tread- the truth, and it is out there! It is in the research and the science and the documentation of fact, not fantasy or fiction, and it PROVES that 9/11 was an inside job. But to do that you have to possess what you lack- THE AMERICAN BRAVERY TO PEEK BEYOND YOUR FEAR OF SEEING REALLY BAD THINGS IN YOUR PRETTY WORLD! Haven't you had enough of the smell of Bush spilled blood on your hands?
Saakashvili the liar. People demand the truthful information, search for it on the Internet, communicate. Americans!! Really you do not see fruits of board of republicans? Why you so are blind? Your billion is a pity. At you it is a lot of unemployed, and you so not reasonably dispose of money. Saakashvili the liar. Do not trust it and the administration.
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OK pre-WWII Germany suffered with a gap between the exaggerated self-worth and the exaggerated self-doubt; so they blamed everybody else for their shortcomings. The Russians today are very similar: They are proud of vastenss of Russia but they are dissapointed by quality of the life in Russia. most of them became active or "closet" racists & they call any non Russian as "Churki"s means "black". to Russians these "churki-s" are to blame that they have no Jobs. a "churk" cab driver is to blame...
Many people in the heartland of the US (like me) are sick and tired of all of these foreign adventures! The US has no legitimate interests in Georgia, and Georgians need to realize that the US is using Tblisi as a pawn in a proxy war against Russia. But, the US is broken (financially), it is in a recession, and its conventional military forces are already stretched to the limit. As for Cheney, we are surprised to see him in public; he has been hiding in the basement of the White House lately.
USA interest is to cause another war just like they do all the time,they caused the war between Russia and Checnya,they were behind fall of Yugoslavia etc.
In a volatile Eurasia, the immediate task is to ensure that no state or combination of states gains the ability to expel the United States or even diminish its decisive role. (Zbigniew Brzezinski, A Geostrategy For Eurasia, Foreign Affairs, 1997).
Thanks for sharing that quote. The NWO criminals incriminate themselves with their own words. More Americans need to know who these evil puppet masters are. Keep spreading the quotes that expose their real agenda. I never heard of Z-Big and Soros, etc. until Jack Blood mentioned them on his radio show. Since then, I've been reading up on these guys and I'm totally shocked at what I didn't know.
How do you spell crony capitalism? RICHARD (THE DICK) CHENEY. He does nothing (transparently) that does not serve the interests of socialism for the rich. Mr Saakashvili is prostituting his country to powers that care only about reasonably stable access to Eurasian hydrocarbon pipelines. One word of advise to the current Georgian president: don't go hunting with The Dick (nuff said).
Cheney is a national embarrassment! It's ridiculous to make the people of the USA to give money to the criminal government of Georgia. Russia did the right thing and they should be allowed to deal with Georgia without interference from the USA!!!
I cannot understand a country like the US with all its citizens which i do believe are not stupid , continually agree with the rubbish their Politicians feed them everyday.WAKE up America.You are being used and abused by your own Politicians before anything else.
Starting to Wake : As an American citizen I started to wake up when Cheney let Bin Ladin go in tora bora. Our country has been hi jacked by Haliburton .. but it is to big .. unstoppable. American and our people are doomed.
Georgians either have to take "their" money or take russian bullets. Which one would you choose?We all know the US´s interests in Georgia,it is not anything new,but we as well know the interest of russia and its methods of reaching its goals!
P.S.While the US is sending the humanitarian aid in Georgia,Russian bomji soldiers are robing it from the civilians!
perhaps you never read history, mate. Russia has never been an enemy to Georgia. Only after US installed Suckingsvilli through a revolution. As soon as he gets removed, the good relations will be restored. all the CIA rats will be punished all over the world, in the regions of Russia's interest. Even inside US.
Just because I have read the history of Georgia,Poland,Ukraine,Hungary,Czechoslovakia,etc.I know that friendship with russia IS IMPOSSIBLE!There was not Saakashvili during the Apkhazian war,there was very pro-russian Shevardnadze but still russians started the war,CRUELLY killed Apkhazians,Georgians,exiled many of them to other parts of Georgia and stayed on Apkhazian territory with the separatists!The problem is in LILIPUTIN!
which studying are you talking about?About Stalin,I am lucky to be able to read Georgian,Russian and western sources. However,I believe more in people who saw everything with their own eyes.There are plenty of them in Georgia.
would it be logical to suppose that "people saw everything with their own eyes" not only in Georgia, but also in S.Ossetia and Abkhazia, and referring to one group you should not ignore the other?
I am talking about studying that teaches you to analyze and compare. Your statement "friendship with Russia IS IMPOSSIBLE" is merely a provocation, whoever you are, it can't be based on any scientific or scientific-like research, so go back to your school and tell them to un-teach you.
So called South Ossetia and Apkhazia are GEORGIAN TERRITORIES whether some imperialists and separatists(I guess including you) wanna admit it or not!SO when I mean in Georgia,I mean in Apkhazia,in so called S.Ossetia,in Poti,in Gori,in Senaki,in Khashuri,how many more GEORGIAN cities do you want me to name which have been OCCUPIED by russians?
no, these territories are independent states. At least 1 state recognized it (+Nicaragua = 2, and 5 more will do so soon), it becomes an independent state according to the tradition and theory of forming of states.
Yeah I guess Nicaraguan president(pro SOviet Union by the way,that explains why he is on Putin's side,such a shame) wanted to be famous with smth and he decided to declare the independence:)
If you are a russian,you better pray for Ossetia and Apkhazia not to be independent,because in that case you will be the witness of Russia's destruction in 150 pieces!
You wanna call it a provocation or not,it is not important.The important thing is that the History and the Present show everything!No matter what kind of leader Georgia has and no matter who is the leader of Russia,Russia has been and is trying to intervene in Georgian sovereignty!Everyone knows why(control on Caucasus,no alternative routes for the west in Georgia,Georgian rich territories,complex of inferiority of russians towards Georgians(especially men),etc,etc.)
How about american involvement in establishing the puppet government of Saakashvilli and Yuschenko in Ukraine? Is it not interference? What about the precedent of Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, American-NATO interference in Pakistan territorial sovereignity? This is the current reality. This is what Russia should react to now, to prevent the escalation of american fascism.
You should watch the RT report about american senator admitting that americans are interested only in the BP pipe in Georgia.
Don't make me responsible for the US actions.I am responsible for Georgia and Georgians and not for the US.Although whether you wanna admit or not,DURING THE WAR IN GEORGIA NOW the US helped us with humanitarian aid and russian soldiers were stealing them from the civilians:)after this you are asking Georgia to be friends with Russia?
I don't support any separatism in the world,be it Kosovo,Apkhazia,so called South Ossetia or even Chechnya.See,I am not wicked like russians and I don't play with double standards.you talk about kosovo and you support the separatism in Georgia?it is clear how objective you are
Now,you insult Georgian and Ukrainian people when you say their presidents are someone´s puppets.I wanna tell you at least in the name of Georgian nation that we are not afraid of our president.If we don't like them,we can easily have others.We are not like you who have Putin forever:)Georgia has existed without the US which means the US is not our air.Look for a word diplomacy!
Now,we don't have an illusion that the US helps us just because they love Georgian people.You didn't say anything new.We do understand that everyone has its interests.But unlike you russians,the US can use the diplomacy in order to reach its goals,while you have no diplomacy at all.Your only "strength" is bullets.The methods of Russia and the US are completely different!
if it was so, there would be no Baltic states, no Finland, no Middle Asian states. Russia did preserve each powerful culture that was in the sphere of its interests, unlike usa that first killed the indians, and then created an illusory melting pot (which has not proved itself - look at latinos illegal migration).
You are right, the ways are different, and Russian way is far more complex then giving billion bucks to a puppet-president and deploying rockets and bases abroad.
Maybe for people like you who live in Durakovo it is better to rob,rape and kill civilians than to send a humanitarian aid,but for the civilized people it is not.So go back to where you are from!
I told you not to talk to me about the US.talk about your aggRussia and about my country if you want(I think you should be careful though).But when you have nothing to say about peaceful Georgia,you start to talk about the US.
what I can say about georgia is that for many years it does not resemble a country, a significant number of georgians are looking for jobs in Russia, Suckingswinie is a fucking lunatic, and america will forget you soon.
I don't care about who will forget us.Georgia has existed without the US and without russia and it wall continue so whether any other nation supports us or not!So again,stop using the US against Georgia!
I watched some videos of Russia Today and I laughed a lot about their unprofessionalism:)They say look at the crimes of Georgian tanks in Tskhinvali and they show Georgian tanks entering Tskhinvali and just standing there:)And then some people in Durakovo,believe they really saw the crimes of Georgian army there:)
But why do you always argue with me using the US,cnn,Bush or whoever?I told you million times I DON'T SUPPORT EVERY POLICY OF BUSH,however I can't close my eyes when I see that the US is helping us when Russia is bombing us!
There is not logic in what you said.First,which attack are you talking about.Russia attacked first and when the Georgian forces started to go there,Russians were already there.There was no problem of recording Georgian tanks.
why?you have more russians their?:) Little boy, I know very well everything that is going in my country and on the territories of my country -Samachablo and Apkhazia. I don't have any "serious questions" :) I have everything very clear!The reason I am posting here is to edicate some russians who maybe don't wanna be blind like you.If you understand it,good,if not,whatever!
a standard is the existence of spheres of national interests. and these territories were not separatists, they just never belonged to Georgia, if you knew some history.
Oh my God,did you really mean what you wrote or you just were falling asleep and you didn't realize what you wrote?
Just to let you know,we are not talking about Georgia state of the US,we are talking about the country who is 1.8million years old and who existed before Russia.And this country had its territories,its culture different from the russian one and no russian has a right to put his nose wherever nobody asks them!
Ok, you're trying to apply historical-cultural perspective. Georgia in fact lost its cultural influence long ago and by the time of forming the USSR it was among the first territories to join it by free will, seeking Russian protection. So we have some right to put nose there.
As for USA, let me remind you about native american thousands of years of culture. poking nose in their lands was against any freedoms, and if you are american, you have no right for any opinion.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha GEORGIA DIDN'T JOIN THE USSR BY FREE WILL,MOREOVER,WHEN WE WANTED TO GAIN BACK THE INDEPENDENCE STOLEN BY RUSSIA,ON 9TH OF APRIL,RUSSIA SENT TROOPS IN TBILISI,POISONED AND KILLED YOUNR PEOPLE!WE STILL REMEMBER THIS TRAGIC DAY!
Poor you,you have no idea of what kind of country Georgia is.Georgia has never lost its culture(not influence,we don't need to influence anyone),it still exists and we are trying to save it from Russia.
Yes.1.8 million years.Old hah?you would even never dream about it and now,to avoid answering on it,you just laugh.this shows you lack arguments!
We are FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES BOY (THANKS GOD)!YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT YOUR NOSE IN MY COUNTRY'S AFFAIRS!IMPERIALIST!
hahaha, maybe some museum does keep the anthropological proofs of ancient 1.9 mln old georgians? would be great. but you know nothing about human history on earth.
imperialist is georgia, trying to attack the bordering territories. stop listening to fascist suckingswinie propaganda. Russia is bringing peace. you see: before Russian involvement there was no peace, and now - there is peace and a solid border between.
Yeah,in russia there is peace,since all the opposition is dead and now if you people say anything against Putin,you will die too.Of course there will be peace since no russian is so brave to go against Putin:)
Georgia and imperialism?:)Tell me one case when Georgia was an empire:):):)lol do you realize how blind you are?it is so unfair Diana Gurtskaia to be blind and you not!
If you wanna know there is no peace in Georgia.Thanks to bloody russian bombs people are without houses,without relatives,with dead bodies.Some of them raped or robbed by fucking russian cannibal soldiers who call themselves bomji!If for you this is the peace,go right not to the psychiatric clinic until it´s too late!
so you are calling the georgian fucking bandits who attacked Tshinvali - Russians? poor thing, go re-educate yourself. you have some brains, but your starting point is that Russia attackef first, and here you have not tried to produce any proof.
Georgian soldiers are heroes who did their best to defend their country without killing civilians!Yes,Russians started the war and besides this crime they did a lot more!All Georgians and foreigners who where in Georgia during the war could see how cruel they were and what they were doing with the civilians!
I said I don't need any more proofs of who started the war because my friends were in Tskhinvali and they SAW russian bombings during A WEEK before the war.If you didn't see them,it doesn't mean it didn't happen!Just to let you know,I have my opinion about who started the war after listening to the russian expert,who explained why did russia start the war!
As a American , I hate Bush but Cheney even more. Recently in a interview on Good Morning America in the US Cheney was told by a reporter that most Americans feel the war in Iraq was not worth fighting. His response was " SO ?".May Bush and Cheney rot in hell for all the lives lost on both sides of this meaningless war.
WARNING WORLD: US has launched a terrifying and frightening Cheney, randomly striking terror into the Tbilisi area currently. This weaponry is uniquely murderous around oil and seemingly devoid of a human conscience
What an irony, the killers of innocent children and women are saying we are sending money for humanitarian deeds! Condi said Russia is suppressing a small neighbour country,,,,, oh you poor thing US, you couldn't do nothing about Cuba for last 50 years despite your frantic and bizarre efforts to kill Castro, what a pity
It turns out that the current US government is not governing for american people but to elite, israel and foreigners. Americans it's time for you to take your country back!
how can the do that when they spent most of thier time watching lindsay lohan taking a bath and briteny shaving her head on E! entertainment, bush, cheney and all know thats what americans want and need (britney's bold head)iraq,iran are myths to them
actually americans hate cheney... his approvation even lower than bushs. ask any american and they will vehemently reject their current government on every issue. they know cheney is a evil warmonger looting americans money to wage wars over false claims and lies. to support genocidal regimes.
Arty, I thought the same... they're in trouble their population is pretty broke yet they send off 1bln taxpayers money to a genocidal regime. I don't think americans agree with their government stupid evil decision at all. cheney is a war criminal
Everyone knows the farce bastard cheney is. Watch "No end in sight" and "Iraq for sale: the war profiteers" here on youtube and read Halliburton article on wikipedia (if CIA or NSA hasn't yet modified it and manipulated it... you will see how disgusting cheney is) . Why russian media treaties georgian government like they are legitim? Georgia is a damn genocidal regime!
MyTerrain: fuck the united states i hope their fucking economy collapses..
Not so fast kid. Google it "Depression in US caused World War II". US is still the No.1 economy in the world. It's collapse will have great repercussions to other major economies. Do you know what will happen to China whose economy is tied with trade with the US? It may end up competing with Russia. Then, China will gobble up Russia. You cannot kill the goose that lays the golden egg!
Germany was reeling financially from the terms of WW1 war reparations imposed on her by the Treaty of Versailles. Germany borrowed heavily from US banks. When depression hit the US, the banks took their money back home. That hit Germany really bad, it gave rise to Hitler's authoritarianism and his justifications for the "master race" to grab other nations wealth and natural resources (hmm... he had his eyes on Caucusus oil and minerals even that early!)
Cheney is a fu cking war criminal. Die you fu cking scum.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
for those americans that protest against their goverment because they sent money to georgia, don't forget that 2,000 of our soldiers served in iraq and noe 1,000 are serving in afghanistan and i think all americans should respect that.
10georgian 1 year ago
russian propaganda
gogiano 2 years ago
1.8million years old culture has never consisted of conquering anyone!Georgians would not do whatever they didn't do during those years!It is simply not a part of their psychology to attack anyone!While russia has always been attacking and it continues to do so!
I know it is amazing to imagine that we have so old culture but try not to show your lack of knowledge in your cynical comments!
MZE1988 3 years ago
1.8 million years old culture?
I see you as a real history expert:))
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kipejojaz 3 years ago
cheney was behind 911. He is a war criminal.
dollarbear1 3 years ago
Why do so many famous Russian writers and journalists support Georgian, American, and European facts and admit the Russian government is lying??
Panfilov, Novordvorskaya, Politikovskaya (RIP), Romanova, Piontkovsky, Agaev, Bukovsky, Yavlinsky, even Chessmaster Kasparov and many more.
Also, over a dozen famous political opponents of Putin murdered in cold blood and nobody ever put on trial? Politikovskaya murdered on Putins birthday? Wow...Russians are born liars and denial masters.
AtilladHun 3 years ago
Sakashvilli is another oil rat in the backpocket of Corporate Boyzz in the White Whore. Cheney is shitting in his fatpants and his pigskin bypass is ready to burst as his handlers give him his marching orders to guard the further breakup of an oil rich area, further complicating his boys' headaches. Thanks Ossettia! Thanks Russia! Notice. Little coverage paid to Iran. The big bad nuclear "threat" off da' stove.
Money and oil on da' front burna'. Oh! Sing dem' black gold derrick blues!
distressed7 3 years ago
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Human Rights Watch has documented the Russian military's use of indiscriminate force and its seemingly targeted attacks on civilians, including on civilian convoys. The deliberate use of force against civilians or civilian objects is a war crime. Human Rights Watch has also confirmed the Russian military's use of cluster bombs in S.Ossetia and two towns in Georgia.
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parkosa9 3 years ago
To the lovers of Official 9/11 Government Fantasy, I boldly point you to where you scared rabbits fear to tread- the truth, and it is out there! It is in the research and the science and the documentation of fact, not fantasy or fiction, and it PROVES that 9/11 was an inside job. But to do that you have to possess what you lack- THE AMERICAN BRAVERY TO PEEK BEYOND YOUR FEAR OF SEEING REALLY BAD THINGS IN YOUR PRETTY WORLD! Haven't you had enough of the smell of Bush spilled blood on your hands?
FixingWhatsBroken 3 years ago
Cheney speech on the flight from Georgia (from hidden camera):
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russiansexpat 3 years ago
It's not shit-eating russa's businss what Cheney wants in Georgia. Russians will soon feel the whip of poverty.
hintuition 3 years ago
The US is already facing economic problems from the banking, dollar, jobs, and subprime loans. We don't need to be further in debt for Georgia.
MetalRex007 3 years ago
Saakashvili the liar. People demand the truthful information, search for it on the Internet, communicate. Americans!! Really you do not see fruits of board of republicans? Why you so are blind? Your billion is a pity. At you it is a lot of unemployed, and you so not reasonably dispose of money. Saakashvili the liar. Do not trust it and the administration.
zeexman 3 years ago
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habizabiusa 3 years ago
OK pre-WWII Germany suffered with a gap between the exaggerated self-worth and the exaggerated self-doubt; so they blamed everybody else for their shortcomings. The Russians today are very similar: They are proud of vastenss of Russia but they are dissapointed by quality of the life in Russia. most of them became active or "closet" racists & they call any non Russian as "Churki"s means "black". to Russians these "churki-s" are to blame that they have no Jobs. a "churk" cab driver is to blame...
ALAVERDI9 3 years ago
what doesn't the US have a deep interest in?
stop brown-nosing and GTFO of Russia's business.
lynx29 3 years ago
I think we should give them 1,000 A-10 warthogs and 500 M 60 mbts
killqboyz 3 years ago
jajaja
on this crisis the bush agenda give money to foreing in the nose of the american people taxpayer jajaja idiots jajaja
jguzman42 3 years ago
Many people in the heartland of the US (like me) are sick and tired of all of these foreign adventures! The US has no legitimate interests in Georgia, and Georgians need to realize that the US is using Tblisi as a pawn in a proxy war against Russia. But, the US is broken (financially), it is in a recession, and its conventional military forces are already stretched to the limit. As for Cheney, we are surprised to see him in public; he has been hiding in the basement of the White House lately.
bboucharde 3 years ago 2
Zero military component MY ASS
SlavaRossii1945 3 years ago
USA interest is to cause another war just like they do all the time,they caused the war between Russia and Checnya,they were behind fall of Yugoslavia etc.
DINNNSEL 3 years ago
No Rice you did yourself in. The public are aware of your activities and destruction.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
Haha Georgian bombing Tskhinvali (first) and USA help who???? hahahah :))))))))))))))))))
NeMetov 3 years ago
where r they getting the money for this shit lie drug running shortcut??????????????
rblwoaclu 3 years ago
In a volatile Eurasia, the immediate task is to ensure that no state or combination of states gains the ability to expel the United States or even diminish its decisive role. (Zbigniew Brzezinski, A Geostrategy For Eurasia, Foreign Affairs, 1997).
wyrd24 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing that quote. The NWO criminals incriminate themselves with their own words. More Americans need to know who these evil puppet masters are. Keep spreading the quotes that expose their real agenda. I never heard of Z-Big and Soros, etc. until Jack Blood mentioned them on his radio show. Since then, I've been reading up on these guys and I'm totally shocked at what I didn't know.
katydig 3 years ago
How do you spell crony capitalism? RICHARD (THE DICK) CHENEY. He does nothing (transparently) that does not serve the interests of socialism for the rich. Mr Saakashvili is prostituting his country to powers that care only about reasonably stable access to Eurasian hydrocarbon pipelines. One word of advise to the current Georgian president: don't go hunting with The Dick (nuff said).
wyrd24 3 years ago 2
Cheney is a national embarrassment! It's ridiculous to make the people of the USA to give money to the criminal government of Georgia. Russia did the right thing and they should be allowed to deal with Georgia without interference from the USA!!!
RuskyED 3 years ago 9
1 billion straight into Shakashvili's pocket.
nallgire 3 years ago 2
America is not only United States - from Brazil, GO RUSSIA!
erosselavy 3 years ago 5
Cheney WANTS world war more than satisfying his pedophile desires!
Quite true!
9/11 was an inside job!
Enjoy the neo-conazi's police state, you ignorant dumbed down American slaves-Democrats and republicans.
Dare to read? Got the time in Cheney/Bush's effed up America? Read Jim Marrs' Fourth Reich.
The likes of
Cheney's fascists would probably burn it, those re-educated fascist slaves.
FixingWhatsBroken 3 years ago
Jim Marrs is a idiot and I have read his Rule by Secrecy. It's full of lies and innuendo. If you would like to really be dumbed down read his book.
1BuckeyeNation 3 years ago
I cannot understand a country like the US with all its citizens which i do believe are not stupid , continually agree with the rubbish their Politicians feed them everyday.WAKE up America.You are being used and abused by your own Politicians before anything else.
adgt351 3 years ago 2
Same goes for Russia, doesn't it?
boardsofnorway 3 years ago
Starting to Wake : As an American citizen I started to wake up when Cheney let Bin Ladin go in tora bora. Our country has been hi jacked by Haliburton .. but it is to big .. unstoppable. American and our people are doomed.
Tigerpoi51 3 years ago 2
Yeah, Georgia! Go for it! Take their money.. go right in their fucking debt-trap.
pmf026 3 years ago
Georgians either have to take "their" money or take russian bullets. Which one would you choose?We all know the US´s interests in Georgia,it is not anything new,but we as well know the interest of russia and its methods of reaching its goals!
P.S.While the US is sending the humanitarian aid in Georgia,Russian bomji soldiers are robing it from the civilians!
MZE1988 3 years ago
perhaps you never read history, mate. Russia has never been an enemy to Georgia. Only after US installed Suckingsvilli through a revolution. As soon as he gets removed, the good relations will be restored. all the CIA rats will be punished all over the world, in the regions of Russia's interest. Even inside US.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago 5
Just because I have read the history of Georgia,Poland,Ukraine,Hungary,Czechoslovakia,etc.I know that friendship with russia IS IMPOSSIBLE!There was not Saakashvili during the Apkhazian war,there was very pro-russian Shevardnadze but still russians started the war,CRUELLY killed Apkhazians,Georgians,exiled many of them to other parts of Georgia and stayed on Apkhazian territory with the separatists!The problem is in LILIPUTIN!
MZE1988 3 years ago
depends on which sources did u use in ur studying. any american can say he knows a hell lot about stalin, but is that true?
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
which studying are you talking about?About Stalin,I am lucky to be able to read Georgian,Russian and western sources. However,I believe more in people who saw everything with their own eyes.There are plenty of them in Georgia.
MZE1988 3 years ago
would it be logical to suppose that "people saw everything with their own eyes" not only in Georgia, but also in S.Ossetia and Abkhazia, and referring to one group you should not ignore the other?
I am talking about studying that teaches you to analyze and compare. Your statement "friendship with Russia IS IMPOSSIBLE" is merely a provocation, whoever you are, it can't be based on any scientific or scientific-like research, so go back to your school and tell them to un-teach you.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
So called South Ossetia and Apkhazia are GEORGIAN TERRITORIES whether some imperialists and separatists(I guess including you) wanna admit it or not!SO when I mean in Georgia,I mean in Apkhazia,in so called S.Ossetia,in Poti,in Gori,in Senaki,in Khashuri,how many more GEORGIAN cities do you want me to name which have been OCCUPIED by russians?
MZE1988 3 years ago
no, these territories are independent states. At least 1 state recognized it (+Nicaragua = 2, and 5 more will do so soon), it becomes an independent state according to the tradition and theory of forming of states.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Yeah I guess Nicaraguan president(pro SOviet Union by the way,that explains why he is on Putin's side,such a shame) wanted to be famous with smth and he decided to declare the independence:)
If you are a russian,you better pray for Ossetia and Apkhazia not to be independent,because in that case you will be the witness of Russia's destruction in 150 pieces!
MZE1988 3 years ago
The 13 Colonies are clearly a possession of England and the people are English, funded by Englishmen, and founded by Englishmen.
distressed7 3 years ago
??? what are you talking about???
MZE1988 3 years ago
You wanna call it a provocation or not,it is not important.The important thing is that the History and the Present show everything!No matter what kind of leader Georgia has and no matter who is the leader of Russia,Russia has been and is trying to intervene in Georgian sovereignty!Everyone knows why(control on Caucasus,no alternative routes for the west in Georgia,Georgian rich territories,complex of inferiority of russians towards Georgians(especially men),etc,etc.)
MZE1988 3 years ago
How about american involvement in establishing the puppet government of Saakashvilli and Yuschenko in Ukraine? Is it not interference? What about the precedent of Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, American-NATO interference in Pakistan territorial sovereignity? This is the current reality. This is what Russia should react to now, to prevent the escalation of american fascism.
You should watch the RT report about american senator admitting that americans are interested only in the BP pipe in Georgia.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Don't make me responsible for the US actions.I am responsible for Georgia and Georgians and not for the US.Although whether you wanna admit or not,DURING THE WAR IN GEORGIA NOW the US helped us with humanitarian aid and russian soldiers were stealing them from the civilians:)after this you are asking Georgia to be friends with Russia?
MZE1988 3 years ago
I don't support any separatism in the world,be it Kosovo,Apkhazia,so called South Ossetia or even Chechnya.See,I am not wicked like russians and I don't play with double standards.you talk about kosovo and you support the separatism in Georgia?it is clear how objective you are
MZE1988 3 years ago
Now,you insult Georgian and Ukrainian people when you say their presidents are someone´s puppets.I wanna tell you at least in the name of Georgian nation that we are not afraid of our president.If we don't like them,we can easily have others.We are not like you who have Putin forever:)Georgia has existed without the US which means the US is not our air.Look for a word diplomacy!
MZE1988 3 years ago
Now,we don't have an illusion that the US helps us just because they love Georgian people.You didn't say anything new.We do understand that everyone has its interests.But unlike you russians,the US can use the diplomacy in order to reach its goals,while you have no diplomacy at all.Your only "strength" is bullets.The methods of Russia and the US are completely different!
MZE1988 3 years ago
if it was so, there would be no Baltic states, no Finland, no Middle Asian states. Russia did preserve each powerful culture that was in the sphere of its interests, unlike usa that first killed the indians, and then created an illusory melting pot (which has not proved itself - look at latinos illegal migration).
You are right, the ways are different, and Russian way is far more complex then giving billion bucks to a puppet-president and deploying rockets and bases abroad.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Maybe for people like you who live in Durakovo it is better to rob,rape and kill civilians than to send a humanitarian aid,but for the civilized people it is not.So go back to where you are from!
MZE1988 3 years ago
georgian fucking bandits attacked first, demonstrating 1.8300043473 million year culture.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
I told you not to talk to me about the US.talk about your aggRussia and about my country if you want(I think you should be careful though).But when you have nothing to say about peaceful Georgia,you start to talk about the US.
MZE1988 3 years ago
what I can say about georgia is that for many years it does not resemble a country, a significant number of georgians are looking for jobs in Russia, Suckingswinie is a fucking lunatic, and america will forget you soon.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
I don't care about who will forget us.Georgia has existed without the US and without russia and it wall continue so whether any other nation supports us or not!So again,stop using the US against Georgia!
MZE1988 3 years ago
I watched some videos of Russia Today and I laughed a lot about their unprofessionalism:)They say look at the crimes of Georgian tanks in Tskhinvali and they show Georgian tanks entering Tskhinvali and just standing there:)And then some people in Durakovo,believe they really saw the crimes of Georgian army there:)
MZE1988 3 years ago
the same about Serbia: CNN says "look at the crimes of serbians!" and show the refugee camp from another part of Europe.
But actually how could RT show the entering tanks if the attack was sudden? they therefore show the destroyed Georgian tank. isn't it logic?
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
But why do you always argue with me using the US,cnn,Bush or whoever?I told you million times I DON'T SUPPORT EVERY POLICY OF BUSH,however I can't close my eyes when I see that the US is helping us when Russia is bombing us!
There is not logic in what you said.First,which attack are you talking about.Russia attacked first and when the Georgian forces started to go there,Russians were already there.There was no problem of recording Georgian tanks.
MZE1988 3 years ago
Russia did not attack first, what are you talking about.
Before the conflict there were several Russian statements about consentrating of Georgian troops there.
If you have any serious questions, let's discuss it on wikipedia edit page ("War in South Ossetia")
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
why?you have more russians their?:) Little boy, I know very well everything that is going in my country and on the territories of my country -Samachablo and Apkhazia. I don't have any "serious questions" :) I have everything very clear!The reason I am posting here is to edicate some russians who maybe don't wanna be blind like you.If you understand it,good,if not,whatever!
MZE1988 3 years ago
As an advice,you better stop playing with double standards and either support separatism everywhere or go against separatism everywhere!
MZE1988 3 years ago
a standard is the existence of spheres of national interests. and these territories were not separatists, they just never belonged to Georgia, if you knew some history.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Oh my God,did you really mean what you wrote or you just were falling asleep and you didn't realize what you wrote?
Just to let you know,we are not talking about Georgia state of the US,we are talking about the country who is 1.8million years old and who existed before Russia.And this country had its territories,its culture different from the russian one and no russian has a right to put his nose wherever nobody asks them!
MZE1988 3 years ago
1.8 million year, eh? lol
Ok, you're trying to apply historical-cultural perspective. Georgia in fact lost its cultural influence long ago and by the time of forming the USSR it was among the first territories to join it by free will, seeking Russian protection. So we have some right to put nose there.
As for USA, let me remind you about native american thousands of years of culture. poking nose in their lands was against any freedoms, and if you are american, you have no right for any opinion.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha GEORGIA DIDN'T JOIN THE USSR BY FREE WILL,MOREOVER,WHEN WE WANTED TO GAIN BACK THE INDEPENDENCE STOLEN BY RUSSIA,ON 9TH OF APRIL,RUSSIA SENT TROOPS IN TBILISI,POISONED AND KILLED YOUNR PEOPLE!WE STILL REMEMBER THIS TRAGIC DAY!
MZE1988 3 years ago
Poor you,you have no idea of what kind of country Georgia is.Georgia has never lost its culture(not influence,we don't need to influence anyone),it still exists and we are trying to save it from Russia.
Yes.1.8 million years.Old hah?you would even never dream about it and now,to avoid answering on it,you just laugh.this shows you lack arguments!
We are FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES BOY (THANKS GOD)!YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT YOUR NOSE IN MY COUNTRY'S AFFAIRS!IMPERIALIST!
MZE1988 3 years ago
hahaha, maybe some museum does keep the anthropological proofs of ancient 1.9 mln old georgians? would be great. but you know nothing about human history on earth.
imperialist is georgia, trying to attack the bordering territories. stop listening to fascist suckingswinie propaganda. Russia is bringing peace. you see: before Russian involvement there was no peace, and now - there is peace and a solid border between.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Yeah,in russia there is peace,since all the opposition is dead and now if you people say anything against Putin,you will die too.Of course there will be peace since no russian is so brave to go against Putin:)
Georgia and imperialism?:)Tell me one case when Georgia was an empire:):):)lol do you realize how blind you are?it is so unfair Diana Gurtskaia to be blind and you not!
MZE1988 3 years ago
If you wanna know there is no peace in Georgia.Thanks to bloody russian bombs people are without houses,without relatives,with dead bodies.Some of them raped or robbed by fucking russian cannibal soldiers who call themselves bomji!If for you this is the peace,go right not to the psychiatric clinic until it´s too late!
MZE1988 3 years ago
so you are calling the georgian fucking bandits who attacked Tshinvali - Russians? poor thing, go re-educate yourself. you have some brains, but your starting point is that Russia attackef first, and here you have not tried to produce any proof.
VictorWasechkin 3 years ago
Georgian soldiers are heroes who did their best to defend their country without killing civilians!Yes,Russians started the war and besides this crime they did a lot more!All Georgians and foreigners who where in Georgia during the war could see how cruel they were and what they were doing with the civilians!
P.S.I didn't ask you to evaluate my brain!
MZE1988 3 years ago
I said I don't need any more proofs of who started the war because my friends were in Tskhinvali and they SAW russian bombings during A WEEK before the war.If you didn't see them,it doesn't mean it didn't happen!Just to let you know,I have my opinion about who started the war after listening to the russian expert,who explained why did russia start the war!
MZE1988 3 years ago
As a American , I hate Bush but Cheney even more. Recently in a interview on Good Morning America in the US Cheney was told by a reporter that most Americans feel the war in Iraq was not worth fighting. His response was " SO ?".May Bush and Cheney rot in hell for all the lives lost on both sides of this meaningless war.
yaspeedyrn1975 3 years ago
To declare war of Georgia, to erase it and to overlook about her
ggerrtc 3 years ago
We divide the world
ggerrtc 3 years ago 2
WARNING WORLD: US has launched a terrifying and frightening Cheney, randomly striking terror into the Tbilisi area currently. This weaponry is uniquely murderous around oil and seemingly devoid of a human conscience
strawspulled 3 years ago
What an irony, the killers of innocent children and women are saying we are sending money for humanitarian deeds! Condi said Russia is suppressing a small neighbour country,,,,, oh you poor thing US, you couldn't do nothing about Cuba for last 50 years despite your frantic and bizarre efforts to kill Castro, what a pity
Reptile0000 3 years ago 3
It turns out that the current US government is not governing for american people but to elite, israel and foreigners. Americans it's time for you to take your country back!
haekatbest 3 years ago 2
how can the do that when they spent most of thier time watching lindsay lohan taking a bath and briteny shaving her head on E! entertainment, bush, cheney and all know thats what americans want and need (britney's bold head)iraq,iran are myths to them
cityslicker975 3 years ago
actually americans hate cheney... his approvation even lower than bushs. ask any american and they will vehemently reject their current government on every issue. they know cheney is a evil warmonger looting americans money to wage wars over false claims and lies. to support genocidal regimes.
haekatbest 3 years ago 4
Arty, I thought the same... they're in trouble their population is pretty broke yet they send off 1bln taxpayers money to a genocidal regime. I don't think americans agree with their government stupid evil decision at all. cheney is a war criminal
haekatbest 3 years ago 2
Everyone knows the farce bastard cheney is. Watch "No end in sight" and "Iraq for sale: the war profiteers" here on youtube and read Halliburton article on wikipedia (if CIA or NSA hasn't yet modified it and manipulated it... you will see how disgusting cheney is) . Why russian media treaties georgian government like they are legitim? Georgia is a damn genocidal regime!
haekatbest 3 years ago
1 billion? Wow, I thought america is in "money trouble" right now. I bet people would like that money to stay at home.
ArtypNk 3 years ago 3
if Cheney is involved be sure it's evil bad stuff. of course he would support a genocidal regime as georgia.
haekatbest 3 years ago 3
this man pulls bushes strings,as a man with interest in oil he as made a fortune out of the so called bushes policies
jxxgreen 3 years ago 3
fuck the united states i hope their fucking economy collapses
MyTerrain 3 years ago 9
MyTerrain: fuck the united states i hope their fucking economy collapses..
Not so fast kid. Google it "Depression in US caused World War II". US is still the No.1 economy in the world. It's collapse will have great repercussions to other major economies. Do you know what will happen to China whose economy is tied with trade with the US? It may end up competing with Russia. Then, China will gobble up Russia. You cannot kill the goose that lays the golden egg!
AtilladHun 3 years ago
Bullshit, the Great Depression wasn't the cause of WWII you're talking out of your ASS.
MyTerrain 3 years ago
MyTerrain, Just Google it.
Germany was reeling financially from the terms of WW1 war reparations imposed on her by the Treaty of Versailles. Germany borrowed heavily from US banks. When depression hit the US, the banks took their money back home. That hit Germany really bad, it gave rise to Hitler's authoritarianism and his justifications for the "master race" to grab other nations wealth and natural resources (hmm... he had his eyes on Caucusus oil and minerals even that early!)
AtilladHun 3 years ago
The senile old guy doesn't forget his own puppies.
Shame.
stegal 3 years ago