Dear al qaeda supporters and members: Be aware that the USA is winning. Now that we killed bin Laden we will now continue ass raping you and eventually win. You will never defeat us. Yeah you destroyed two buildings on the US soil. Big deal. We're destroying your whole region. Now you'll HAVE to bow down to the might of the United States of America. FUCK YEAH BITCHES!
lol, feel stupid now that EVERYBODY knows iraq does not equal al queda. and what sort of freedom have we gotten out of this war? all i know is that, due to the fact that there's nobody else to drive down the price anymore, oil prices have skyrocketed. you dont know what freedom is you bigot
commienists rule they soviet uoiun which if you americans are to stupid to know it a old comminist unoiun and they klled the nazis you bush mcain lovers FUCK YOU
...Would you consider checking out a 12 part documentary called On The Road In America? I'll understand if you refuse-it's a big investment in time, but it tries to put a face on those we consider enemies, rather than just dehumanizing them by viewing them only as "the other". I'd be curious to hear your take on it. It's on the Sundance channel Wednesday at 9, but you can get the whole series online I believe. Anyway, thanks for the exchange and for being so polite.
Well my friend, we seem to be at loggerheads so perhaps it's better that we move on. It's useful to note that whatever interpretation either one of us presents, it's possible to find at least a few conflicting views. For example, I always want to scream when I hear some visious right wing holocaust denier try to make a pathetic case that it was a hoax. People will believe whatever fits their own particular prejudices.
I'll leave you alone now but I'd like to ask the following if I may...
I have already acknowledged your point that the massacre was carried out by Christian Phalangists (are all Christians guilty btw?) but it was aided and abetted by Ariel Sharon and his IDF. Sharon was found culpable by the Kahan Commission.
All these replies you give to me. Why so many? Incidentally, if you clicked on the URL I gave you (one I did at your direction btw...) you would see that Sharon was not responsible or not as responsible as you would like to think he is for your moral equivalency argument.
Sorry, I'm on my other account--different name, same person. But, just to make the point--if you charge everyone who was outraged by what happened with hating all Jews, you might want to consider that 300,000 Israelis protested the massacre too. An atrocity is an atrocity whether committed by Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists. I suppose if you were around during WWII you'd have applauded FDR's internment of Japanese Americans.
Actually, that was a clever ruse on the part of the labor party which organized the event. After Sabbath in Israel, everyone gathers outside from inside and the Israeli labor party interspersed their self flagellating protestors in the crowd to give the appearance of a mass movement. It was also a labor party hack who worked for Time Magazine who first smeared Preimer Sharon, eventually forcing Time to write a retraction.
Wow, you still don't understand the difference between blaming individuals or government policies versus blaming entire ethnic groups. When you blame entire races, religions and ethnic groups for the actions of individuals it is called prejudice. Look it up. I DO NOT BLAME JEWS FOR SABRA AND SHATILA. REPEAT, I DO NOT BLAME JEWS FOR SABRA AND SHATILA. You however seem to hold all muslims responsible for the actions of the most radical and unhinged. Go back and re-read my previous post.
Get this straight. I don't blame every Jewish person for the decisions of the IDF. I don't blame every Catholic for the Inquisition. I don't blame every German for the holocaust. I don't blame every Turk for the Armenian genocide. I don't blame every white male for the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing. You however have no problem blaming every Arab and Muslim for 9/11. No where in any post of mine did I "smear the whole Jewish State" so don't make stuff up.
You already tried to blame them for a massacre that wasn't done by them, Sabra and Shatila. What won't you blame them for to try to absolve the Muslims of their savagery?
Let's see.... I think Samuel Huntington said in the conflicts in the third world, 21 out of 23 involve Muslims. Muslims against Muslims, Jews, Christians, and god knows what else. It is not just some radicals but some stuff inherit in the deathcult itself. And all those riots they cause in Europe and their efforts to bring their horrible honor killings into the U.S. It's not just so-called radicals or a minority.
Sir, what on God's green earth are you babbling about? How do you twist my assertion that violence and atrocities know no racial or ethnic boundaries into something racist? Sounds like you're projecting. BTW, I've never heard anyone say that Jews (not joos) are decendants of apes and pigs. Sounds like you've been hanging out with a rather unsavory crowd.
It's like the late Prime Minister Begin said and you don't seem to grasp. He said "goyim kill goyim and they come to blame the Jews." This is what you have done too as regards Sabra and Shatila. If you're going to do this moral equivalence nonsense, at least get the actions of the massacres equivalent and not just smear the Jewish state.
You know, there really is no excuse in this age of information for you to be unaware of the facts about the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. Just google it and you'll find a wealth of information. You can't just ignore whole chapters of history because the information doesn't jibe with your narrow world view.
Oh...I get it. It was the Jews' fault, eh? And you accuse me of racism? And what do you discuss with your Muslim in laws? ...talking about how the Joos are descendants of apes and pigs (that's the common venaculer about the Jews)?
And here's a tip about debating technique. You can't accuse someone of being into "all this kumbaya stuff" in one breath and then in another accuse them of being a mouthbreathing virulent antisemite.
You're the one who accused Jews of doing a massacre in Sabra and Shatila when they didn't. Don't lecture me on irrationality, please.
Incidentally, the left and the hippie retreads want the destruction of Israel all the while hypocritically saying they're for peace. If your alleged peace friends would exert half the energy in favor of the conflict as they do expressing hostility and threats of violence toward me, we would win the war quicker (we have it pretty much won in Iraq anyway).
Here's one quote from the web, "When the scale of the massacre became known and photographs of the bodies in the refugee camps began to be published in the world press, Israel was held directly responsible for the atrocity. The Israeli public was shocked. On September 25, a huge demonstration of 300,000 Israelis was held in Tel Aviv demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Menahem Begin and Sharon and the establishment of a judicial commission of inquiry to investigate the massacre."
I believe Obama is a Christian. His father was muslim though. As far as his being Marxist, I've seen no evidence of this. But, never mind. We can agree to disagree. God Bless.
Please underszog, if we are to ever return to conservative American principles where we value human rights, value the hard working folks in the middle, and get back to lower taxes (not just for those at the top) and less government spending we've got to stop sounding like paranoid raving lunatics.
Shoot! I posted too early. Yes, b. Hussein Obama is an Islamo Marxist and we need to do as Ann Coulter does -- splashing cold water on people so they realize the problems and errors they let slip by.
Please try not to inject racism into the debate. Make your choice based on which one best upholds what you want for the country. If you spend time trying to inject fear over an arabic name, you'll alienate more people than you will convert. Remember too that over 4,000 American servicemen and women gave their lives to liberate people with Arab names. When you do that b.hussein obama stuff, you minimize their sacrifice. My inlaws are muslim but they love this country. And Obama isn't muslim.
I say b. Hussein Obama is a Muslim. Also, isn't that his name? I'm not supposed to say his name? Who does he and his cultists think b. Hussein Obama is? The G-d of the hebrews whose name is not supposed to be spoken (the cult of Yaweh)?
And as for those friendly Muslims you talk about, the Jews who survived the 1929 Hebron massacre found out that Arabs can conceal an emnity for years and years. And when it breaks out, it is very suprising to a lot of people.
I suppose you could say Obama is a martian, but that wouldn't make it true. I also think it's clear that you choose to refer to him as b. hussein obama to capitalize on fear and prejudice. As for your reference to Hebron, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that acts of atrocity are a sad trait of human nature that knows no particular racial or ethnic boundaries. Sabra and Shatila come to mind. Srebrenica comes to mind as well. It's time to find what unites, not divides us. God Bless.
Sabra and Shatila were done by some group that are Christian phalangist and to further confuse the mix, the leader (the blown up Hoebecka) was an agent of Bashir Assad's father. And since we're in a war with Islamic terrorist, we had better find out what makes them tick in order to combat them. This Kumbaya stuff of yours will not work with them.
The Christian Phalangists were allowed access to the refuge camps by the Israeli Defense Force, led at that time by Ariel Sharon. But thanks for making my point that atrocities and terrorist attacks know no racial, ethnic or religious boundaries. You failed to mention Srebrenica in your reply btw. If you think an all out war on the muslim world will solve our problems you are deluded. Weve created more enemies in the last eight years than we have eliminated.
Underzog, you're an islamo-marxist? Re-read your post, I'm sure you didn't mean that and I assume you are calling Obama an islamo-marxist. See it's that kind of rhetoric that gives conservatives a bad name. Makes us sound sort of irrational. It's also a bit racist. My wife is from Saudi Arabia and all my kids, good red-blooded Christians have Arabic middle names. My wifes family are muslim but good decent people.
I used to attend these free republic rallies in the Clinton years because I thought he was a dirty dog. but after the disaster of george bush I couldn't take all the denial about him. A bad president is a bad president no matter what party they're in. Personally, this former member of free republic is voting for Obama in November. I don't trust republicans anymore. They just want to give tax dollars to their rich buddies and shit all over the rest of us. Stick a fork in 'em, they're done.
ur only there to provoke, but when I go to TX and wear a pro same sex marriage shirt, I would get killed. So far goes tolerance with conservative bastards
Highly doubtful. One of your Liberal media organs dressed a guy in arab regalia at a NASCAR rally and nothing happened to him. Much to the chagrin of our Liberal drive by media.
Yeah, and look at English in Alabama. Guys who wrote NASCAR sucked, and they got attacked. Guys who wrote to be gay, and they got attacked. So far goes tolerance with hillbillies or whatever freepers, southerners, or whatever are being called. I call them plain rednecks. We allow conservatives who happen to live in SF to make fun of us, but when we make fun of conservatives in deep osuth were are like death or in hospital.
Part of the reason they were flipping me the bird was because I wore my Ann Coulter t shirt.Another reason was because the Fox 25 tv affiliate was right behind me and they knew it. The commies could've been flipping the bird at the Fox tv station.
Dear al qaeda supporters and members: Be aware that the USA is winning. Now that we killed bin Laden we will now continue ass raping you and eventually win. You will never defeat us. Yeah you destroyed two buildings on the US soil. Big deal. We're destroying your whole region. Now you'll HAVE to bow down to the might of the United States of America. FUCK YEAH BITCHES!
ThatBoyTLong 7 months ago
@ThatBoyTLong Thank you for your comment!
underzog 7 months ago
lol, feel stupid now that EVERYBODY knows iraq does not equal al queda. and what sort of freedom have we gotten out of this war? all i know is that, due to the fact that there's nobody else to drive down the price anymore, oil prices have skyrocketed. you dont know what freedom is you bigot
GenitalMutilation666 2 years ago
commienists rule they soviet uoiun which if you americans are to stupid to know it a old comminist unoiun and they klled the nazis you bush mcain lovers FUCK YOU
GTAHERO55 2 years ago
...Would you consider checking out a 12 part documentary called On The Road In America? I'll understand if you refuse-it's a big investment in time, but it tries to put a face on those we consider enemies, rather than just dehumanizing them by viewing them only as "the other". I'd be curious to hear your take on it. It's on the Sundance channel Wednesday at 9, but you can get the whole series online I believe. Anyway, thanks for the exchange and for being so polite.
d1015125l 3 years ago
Well my friend, we seem to be at loggerheads so perhaps it's better that we move on. It's useful to note that whatever interpretation either one of us presents, it's possible to find at least a few conflicting views. For example, I always want to scream when I hear some visious right wing holocaust denier try to make a pathetic case that it was a hoax. People will believe whatever fits their own particular prejudices.
I'll leave you alone now but I'd like to ask the following if I may...
d1015125l 3 years ago
I have already acknowledged your point that the massacre was carried out by Christian Phalangists (are all Christians guilty btw?) but it was aided and abetted by Ariel Sharon and his IDF. Sharon was found culpable by the Kahan Commission.
d1015125l 3 years ago
All these replies you give to me. Why so many? Incidentally, if you clicked on the URL I gave you (one I did at your direction btw...) you would see that Sharon was not responsible or not as responsible as you would like to think he is for your moral equivalency argument.
underzog 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm on my other account--different name, same person. But, just to make the point--if you charge everyone who was outraged by what happened with hating all Jews, you might want to consider that 300,000 Israelis protested the massacre too. An atrocity is an atrocity whether committed by Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists. I suppose if you were around during WWII you'd have applauded FDR's internment of Japanese Americans.
d1015125l 3 years ago
Actually, that was a clever ruse on the part of the labor party which organized the event. After Sabbath in Israel, everyone gathers outside from inside and the Israeli labor party interspersed their self flagellating protestors in the crowd to give the appearance of a mass movement. It was also a labor party hack who worked for Time Magazine who first smeared Preimer Sharon, eventually forcing Time to write a retraction.
underzog 3 years ago
Wow, you still don't understand the difference between blaming individuals or government policies versus blaming entire ethnic groups. When you blame entire races, religions and ethnic groups for the actions of individuals it is called prejudice. Look it up. I DO NOT BLAME JEWS FOR SABRA AND SHATILA. REPEAT, I DO NOT BLAME JEWS FOR SABRA AND SHATILA. You however seem to hold all muslims responsible for the actions of the most radical and unhinged. Go back and re-read my previous post.
d1015125l 3 years ago
i know right what they reply to you let me gues U.S.A. wat a bunc war starting pig fasicts
GTAHERO55 2 years ago
Get this straight. I don't blame every Jewish person for the decisions of the IDF. I don't blame every Catholic for the Inquisition. I don't blame every German for the holocaust. I don't blame every Turk for the Armenian genocide. I don't blame every white male for the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing. You however have no problem blaming every Arab and Muslim for 9/11. No where in any post of mine did I "smear the whole Jewish State" so don't make stuff up.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
You already tried to blame them for a massacre that wasn't done by them, Sabra and Shatila. What won't you blame them for to try to absolve the Muslims of their savagery?
underzog 3 years ago
Let's see.... I think Samuel Huntington said in the conflicts in the third world, 21 out of 23 involve Muslims. Muslims against Muslims, Jews, Christians, and god knows what else. It is not just some radicals but some stuff inherit in the deathcult itself. And all those riots they cause in Europe and their efforts to bring their horrible honor killings into the U.S. It's not just so-called radicals or a minority.
underzog 3 years ago
Sir, what on God's green earth are you babbling about? How do you twist my assertion that violence and atrocities know no racial or ethnic boundaries into something racist? Sounds like you're projecting. BTW, I've never heard anyone say that Jews (not joos) are decendants of apes and pigs. Sounds like you've been hanging out with a rather unsavory crowd.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
It's like the late Prime Minister Begin said and you don't seem to grasp. He said "goyim kill goyim and they come to blame the Jews." This is what you have done too as regards Sabra and Shatila. If you're going to do this moral equivalence nonsense, at least get the actions of the massacres equivalent and not just smear the Jewish state.
underzog 3 years ago
You know, there really is no excuse in this age of information for you to be unaware of the facts about the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. Just google it and you'll find a wealth of information. You can't just ignore whole chapters of history because the information doesn't jibe with your narrow world view.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
Oh...I get it. It was the Jews' fault, eh? And you accuse me of racism? And what do you discuss with your Muslim in laws? ...talking about how the Joos are descendants of apes and pigs (that's the common venaculer about the Jews)?
underzog 3 years ago
And here's a tip about debating technique. You can't accuse someone of being into "all this kumbaya stuff" in one breath and then in another accuse them of being a mouthbreathing virulent antisemite.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
You're the one who accused Jews of doing a massacre in Sabra and Shatila when they didn't. Don't lecture me on irrationality, please.
Incidentally, the left and the hippie retreads want the destruction of Israel all the while hypocritically saying they're for peace. If your alleged peace friends would exert half the energy in favor of the conflict as they do expressing hostility and threats of violence toward me, we would win the war quicker (we have it pretty much won in Iraq anyway).
underzog 3 years ago
Here's one quote from the web, "When the scale of the massacre became known and photographs of the bodies in the refugee camps began to be published in the world press, Israel was held directly responsible for the atrocity. The Israeli public was shocked. On September 25, a huge demonstration of 300,000 Israelis was held in Tel Aviv demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Menahem Begin and Sharon and the establishment of a judicial commission of inquiry to investigate the massacre."
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
I believe Obama is a Christian. His father was muslim though. As far as his being Marxist, I've seen no evidence of this. But, never mind. We can agree to disagree. God Bless.
AAAngels08 3 years ago 14
Please underszog, if we are to ever return to conservative American principles where we value human rights, value the hard working folks in the middle, and get back to lower taxes (not just for those at the top) and less government spending we've got to stop sounding like paranoid raving lunatics.
AAAngels08 3 years ago 14
Shoot! I posted too early. Yes, b. Hussein Obama is an Islamo Marxist and we need to do as Ann Coulter does -- splashing cold water on people so they realize the problems and errors they let slip by.
underzog 3 years ago
Please try not to inject racism into the debate. Make your choice based on which one best upholds what you want for the country. If you spend time trying to inject fear over an arabic name, you'll alienate more people than you will convert. Remember too that over 4,000 American servicemen and women gave their lives to liberate people with Arab names. When you do that b.hussein obama stuff, you minimize their sacrifice. My inlaws are muslim but they love this country. And Obama isn't muslim.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago 13
I say b. Hussein Obama is a Muslim. Also, isn't that his name? I'm not supposed to say his name? Who does he and his cultists think b. Hussein Obama is? The G-d of the hebrews whose name is not supposed to be spoken (the cult of Yaweh)?
And as for those friendly Muslims you talk about, the Jews who survived the 1929 Hebron massacre found out that Arabs can conceal an emnity for years and years. And when it breaks out, it is very suprising to a lot of people.
underzog 3 years ago
I suppose you could say Obama is a martian, but that wouldn't make it true. I also think it's clear that you choose to refer to him as b. hussein obama to capitalize on fear and prejudice. As for your reference to Hebron, I'm sure I don't have to tell you that acts of atrocity are a sad trait of human nature that knows no particular racial or ethnic boundaries. Sabra and Shatila come to mind. Srebrenica comes to mind as well. It's time to find what unites, not divides us. God Bless.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago 12
Sabra and Shatila were done by some group that are Christian phalangist and to further confuse the mix, the leader (the blown up Hoebecka) was an agent of Bashir Assad's father. And since we're in a war with Islamic terrorist, we had better find out what makes them tick in order to combat them. This Kumbaya stuff of yours will not work with them.
underzog 3 years ago
The Christian Phalangists were allowed access to the refuge camps by the Israeli Defense Force, led at that time by Ariel Sharon. But thanks for making my point that atrocities and terrorist attacks know no racial, ethnic or religious boundaries. You failed to mention Srebrenica in your reply btw. If you think an all out war on the muslim world will solve our problems you are deluded. Weve created more enemies in the last eight years than we have eliminated.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago
Underzog, you're an islamo-marxist? Re-read your post, I'm sure you didn't mean that and I assume you are calling Obama an islamo-marxist. See it's that kind of rhetoric that gives conservatives a bad name. Makes us sound sort of irrational. It's also a bit racist. My wife is from Saudi Arabia and all my kids, good red-blooded Christians have Arabic middle names. My wifes family are muslim but good decent people.
AAAngels08 3 years ago 14
I used to attend these free republic rallies in the Clinton years because I thought he was a dirty dog. but after the disaster of george bush I couldn't take all the denial about him. A bad president is a bad president no matter what party they're in. Personally, this former member of free republic is voting for Obama in November. I don't trust republicans anymore. They just want to give tax dollars to their rich buddies and shit all over the rest of us. Stick a fork in 'em, they're done.
AMERICALOVESHER0S 3 years ago 11
I appreciate your reasoned response even if I don't agree with it. As an Islamo Marxist, I could never support b. Hussein Obama.
underzog 3 years ago
ur only there to provoke, but when I go to TX and wear a pro same sex marriage shirt, I would get killed. So far goes tolerance with conservative bastards
michellesfchick 3 years ago 5
Highly doubtful. One of your Liberal media organs dressed a guy in arab regalia at a NASCAR rally and nothing happened to him. Much to the chagrin of our Liberal drive by media.
underzog 3 years ago
Yeah, and look at English in Alabama. Guys who wrote NASCAR sucked, and they got attacked. Guys who wrote to be gay, and they got attacked. So far goes tolerance with hillbillies or whatever freepers, southerners, or whatever are being called. I call them plain rednecks. We allow conservatives who happen to live in SF to make fun of us, but when we make fun of conservatives in deep osuth were are like death or in hospital.
michellesfchick 3 years ago 5
Your fables are most amusing. Maybe you can beat out "Hansel and Gretel."
underzog 3 years ago
Luke 22:36
AgentFour 4 years ago
Damn that day was FREEZIN!! I remember it well!
usmc7242 4 years ago
get a life, you loser
MrBiggMan 4 years ago 6
Hey Biggman.... Madelyn Murray O'Hare was a victim of her own sucess, eh?
underzog 4 years ago
She was a victim of wacko right-wing goddiot christian freaks, just like many others were.
MrBiggMan 4 years ago 6
The fellow who killed her, her son Murray, and her grand daughter was en ex employee -- not a "wacko right-wing Christian."
Do try to keep your facts straight.
underzog 4 years ago
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What a lunatic asylum huh?
R0773N 4 years ago
Part of the reason they were flipping me the bird was because I wore my Ann Coulter t shirt.Another reason was because the Fox 25 tv affiliate was right behind me and they knew it. The commies could've been flipping the bird at the Fox tv station.
underzog 4 years ago