Non comparing because showing not crashes of planes into buildings like Amsterdam 1992 or Iran 2005, why not? 7) They come with the cams again and that FBI confiscated and never had released. Fact is, no one asked about cam type, for example the traffic cams have by fact very low fps and would have lesser filmed as the video from gate cam.
Enough about vid told, or shall I go further? Again only the same sedition story as always and sad that people believe this truther BS really!
1)“A boing 757 weighting 80ton”: Real truth = 99.7tons, ER = 115tons (source Wikipedia). 2) Destruction span at 0:39 clear visible that far more as claimed 15ft in ground floor. 3)“Intact windows”, no word that in fact they were armoured glass, why? 4) Naming a dozen people telling no plane, concealing over 100 telling it was a plane, why? 5) Ignoring that wings are like knifes and fold inside / back to hull 6) Showing non comparing crashes as examples here
In case someone should be surprised by the capability of resistance of the P building... The side which was hit was already reinforced because they were implementing the lessons learned of the Oklahoma City incident of 1995.
And how the durability of a reinforced building can be indicate the footage of the Kenyan embassy incidence in 1998 where the embassy building structure stayed nearly fully intact while some meters away a not specially reinforced building collapsed completely.
blah blah blah... read the report 190+ people saw the plane hit the building. people who were actually there that day not just watched conspiricy videos on the net.what do u say happened to the plane and passengers? if the plane didnt hit the pentagon what happened to them? what about the cab driver who's cab was crushed by the light pole that the PLANE hit? the rescue workers who reported clearing up bits of passengers bodies?never seen proof from a truther yet. dont beleive i ever will.
@lewismclinton ur right about witnesses seeing the plane approach the pentagon..allbeit not 190 plus people..no need to exaggerate..and the witnesses stories all contradict the offical report of the pentagon ( albeit just the path of the flight..)..and you mention the cab driver..ive watched a documentry..where the man himself admits that pole hitting his cab was staged..in order to find the truth..you have to know where to look. peace
@MettiSNSD havnt seen the documentry with the cab driver, but i'll have a look.but it dosnt detract from my point,the witnesses the rescue workers the wreckage and body parts of the passengers? how are they to be explained?16foot round hole? what do u expect to be left of the plane when it has disintegrated and travelled through 3 office buildings at 500 mph?if it wasnt a plane, what happened to the passengers and crew? think about how many people would have to be involved in a conspiricy ..cont
@MettiSNSD do you really think all those people would have kept their mouths shut for the last 10 years? take a look at the passenger list, just ordinary people going about their daily lives. gone. no contact with their families/freinds etc. if it was a missile where are they? isnt it reasonable to assume that at least one of them would have broken cover?im no expert, just an ordinary person who is amazed at the lies that people can convince themselves of. peace.
@MettiSNSD i never once said there was a missile involed..just going by a documentry i watched..where the witnesses reports all went against the offical report..regarding the planes flight path towards the pentagon..it seems weird that the official report would lie about the path of the flight..isnt it? also i mentioned how the guy whose taxi got hit by a pole..admits to it being staged...i mean that alone..make sthe whole situation questionable doesnt it?
@MettiSNSD 9.11 has thousands of for and against ideas/videos/opinions/theories towards 9/11 being a conspiracy..with all the things ive watched ( both for/against)..and gathered to make opinions for myself..just like ur doing..the for ( that being an inside job ) overwhelmes the against. im not fueding with u..just a sharing opinions, peace.
@MettiSNSD no u didnt, but the video we are posting under does.i agree that the taxi driver thing is questionable. but that the us government is competent enough to pull off a deception on this scale? dosn't seem very likely does it? well not to me anyway. ive seen so many truthers claims refuted,fake planes,fake phone calls bombs in the buildings etc. it leaves them with next to no credibility. theres a bbc documentry called 9/11 conspiricy road trip. its worth watching. peace.
Great video & further damning evidence against the USA. I like American people but tehir government are corrupt to the core & always have been since the days of Lincoln. I kinda view them in the same way I do Russia....totally untrustworthy. I find it remarkable so many brainwashed Americans think their leaders smell of roses yet so many well educated around the rest of the world see what happened on 911 as purely an exploitation of a known terrorist attack. This recession thing though....Karma?
You have to love the poor reasoning skills of this moron who posted the video. If this happened this way that means this must be what happened hear, but you still cannot demonstrate a single truther claim. Damn, no wonder you idiots are always saying stupid shit. Its because you are stupid.
The public statements of many survivors contradict the Commission Report. And the words and actions of some of the victims on that terrible day are in conflict with the Commission Report.
According to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter; The Senate Judiciary Committee first attempted to investigate the matter for the Senate in September, 2005. The Pentagon "ordered five key witnesses not to testify", "That looks to me as if it may be obstruction of the committee's activities," Specter, R-Pennsylvania
Anyone with any questions about merlin's sacred text, otherwise known as the 9/11 Commission Report, can just PM me as I've got a wealth of info and resources as to just how unreliable it is.
In a letter dated January 6, 2004, the Commission was refused permission to question terrorist detainees, with inquiry leaders Hamilton and Kean being told there was “A line that the Commission should not cross,” in the course of its investigation.
9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer, speaking to CNN, stated that Commission members were considering a "criminal probe" of false statements. “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting,” Roemer told CNN
Funny how my man merlin likes to leave out all this other stuff about the Ommission Report. And I'll bet he's got some smarmy little insulting bullshit of a reason for it as well. Fkn Shill !
Senator Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 Commission after calling it a “national scandal” “One of these days we will get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up."
So let's have it Merlin old boy. A high level mathematical model of the impact of 77 taking into account all of the known factors and allowing for resistance etc. And then explain, also mathematically, how exactly it differs from 93 taking into account all of the above as well. Do that, and I will concede that you know your shit. Otherwise it's just that; shit. Oh, and I'm sure you know, but by high level, I don't mean high "school" level. Waiting here patiently, JJ
Look up "Able Danger", Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, Congressman Curt Weldon, the Able Danger team, CIA opposition to Able Danger, Alex Base,
**Major Eric Kleinsmith, Army chief of intelligence for LIWA testified he was ordered to destroy Able Danger info. "I deleted the data. There were two sets, classified and unclassified plus charts we'd produced." Deleting 2.5 terabytes in early 2000 on orders of Tony Gentry, general counsel of the Army Intelligence and Security Command.
The 9/11 Commission members were appointed by President Bush and Congress. As such, it certainly cannot be considered "independent". They then proceeded to state IN the fkn report that their "aim was not to assign individual blame" ...Then why fkn bother ? Politics, that's why. It's also worth mentioning that even victims' families concur the Commission was a total conflict of interest. Which it certainly and obviously was
50 PSI floor strength of the WTC floors, yet ANOTHER statement lifted from the pages of some fkn govt report. The funny thing is even if every single thing in those reports is true, anyone who takes the time to look at news archives and researches all the intel and backstory, etc. would know damn well it's all bullshit. It's just that humans are too fkn lazy to do the work so they rely on being spoonfed by the govt and media as it's too inconvenient to find out your govt lies to you CONSTANTLY
@EdawgFootball88 "destroyed on impact" yet made it's way through over ten feet of steel and Kevlar reinforced concrete, walls, pillars, and contents of not one, not two, but three rings and still further into the service-way leaving behind an almost perfect hole. Meanwhile, over in Pa, another 757 @ identical weight and speed slams into soft fill and goes POOF ! And you have the balls to call someone else "Dumb Shit". Go freshen up on Physics and Newtonian Law, then come back and we'll talk
@Merlin5by5 Please, then by all means; feel free to expand upon your statements without resorting to scripted schoolyard taunts and sandbox insults. And I'M the uneducated moron here ? Your textbook garbage debunker BS is plain to see. So, go ahead. Let's see your education at work. Explain to me, in detail, mathematically, exactly what forces were propagated and transferred at impact and how those forces acted upon all elements of said impact including factors of resistance or lack there-of.
@Merlin5by5 I absolutely without question DO. But you could have just stuck with the fact that a 100plus ton object slammed into the Pentagon just shy of Mach 1 on an X axial plane impact and still do what you did; which was to illustrate the glaringly obvious contradictions inherent with that event and it's transferal to the pothole in Shanksville in an almost identical impact other than it's Y axial plane and didn't cause so much as considerable displacement even wo considering 50k lbs of kero
@Merlin5by5 You've repeatedly called me an anti-semite for reasons that should be completely transparent as you have nothing else to fall back on as the "education" you claim as your own is, in reality, just a not-particularly effective ability to look shit up and paraphrase. Your only references relate to the reports that I'll bet you've spent days upon days reciting to yourself so as to appear educated as your only rebuttals to anything put to you here have been copycat recitations
@Merlin5by5 And I find it odd you'd go this particularly simpleton route as opposed to getting into ft/lbs, linear trajectories, AOI's, planar co-ordinates, etc. But I REALLY loved the fact that although at first I thought you'd caught on as you'd pointed out my mis-stated "engineering term", you then (upon my correction there-of) never challenged it's validity with regard to the manner in which it was used. *Hint: It was used incorrectly. Fkn Fraud !
@Merlin5by5 So go ahead Rockstar; Spell it all out for me mathematically. No, I'm no engineer that is certain, but two closest friends are now for 20 plus years; One's civil, so let's have it. Show me your intellect. Prove you're something other than a bullshit artist with a keen wit and a quick mouse. Prove you're more than a parrot and a plagiarist. Please, I beg you. And the term IS linear trajectory douchebag.
9/11 WAS NOT FAKE!! And saying that it is an insult to all those who dies in 9/11. Are any of you experts on explosives, or anything for that matter? Some of you probably will comment back saying "I am an expert on explosives" or I know a guy who I" but really you are not. Conspiracy theories or at least most of them are things people come up with because either they don’t want to believe it happened or they have another alternative that they don’t tell you
@frosty7001 Ur fucking retard. sur eim not an explosives expert but why the fuck did soo many explosived EXPERTS on tvs and demolishion companys come out and say that it was explosives. Please fucking explain it to me.
@Merlin5by5 merlin. you are just too retarded to think that other way. first of all. that plane that hit first tower, wasnt normal air plane.... theres evidence of that. and the building fell on freefall even tho crushing buildings slow down while going down. and odly. wtc 7 building was destoryed also. and wtc towers lobby was destoryed when they came down, so there was a bomb. and some other crap... and becouse im little lazy.pls tell what was the reason for terrorist attack
@Merlin5by5 you should do some research... the falling speed actually goes slower becouse that weight wont matter on falling. theres some cool words for it but cant rememmber. and this is something /watch?v=wYhXLhfWDB0
@Merlin5by5 they used bombs to demolish them. and how can you explain that pentagon was hit by missile? there was no wings or any parts of that airplane and that hole wich it made to the building, was smaller than that airplane.
@Merlin5by5 well could you pls explain where that airplane disappeared after hiting pentagon?.... i didnt see any part there, only big hole and wings didnt even do any damage to that wall.
@Merlin5by5 next day? lol.. and the recent day plane hit? no wing dmg... you are just so fucking stupid to eat all that crap what americas goverment feeds you. and their plan success. you are thinking just the way they want and you cant even realise it .
@Merlin5by5 Wow. you are textbook. Childish insult after childish insult, slur, slur, ignorant comment, etc, etc. Care to call me an Anti-Semite while you're at it ? Almost like you're following THE script. Funny that the Ingersoll photos actually contradict the official story more-so than they prove it. Can you even tell me why ? I'll bet that you can't even though you've alluded to your familiarity with them. I'll bet that you never even realized the contradiction.
SURE I will call you an Anti-Semite, why NOT? Scratch a Truther, and you end up with another white trash Nazi wannabe hating jews because they are supposed to be in charge of international banking from their home above a New York Deli.
Funny that the Jason Ingersoll photos Show Wing damage extending 60 feet of center line, and don't support anything in the conspiracy nutjob category, or YOU would have posted them, LOL.
In fact, the photo I gave you has 757 Engine impact points.
@Merlin5by5 No; The photo you gave me has what you've been told to believe is wing damage. That having been said; It must make Mommy proud to have her idiotic mind-slave of an illegitimate son ( if you're not actually some hermaphroditic abomination after all ) spew bullshit with regards to another's wrongly assumed beliefs and parade around his ability to paraphrase, plagiarize, and parrot another's work so as to give himself the facade of education and knowledge; of which he has neither.
@valtonen77 He can't think for himself. He can only parrot what he memorizes out of govt funded fk'd reports. Ask him to prove anything mathematically as he's supposedly some fkn rockstar engineer. Go ahead, ask him. So far this shill has seen and done it all. If it involves 9/11, he's got a degree in it. Funny though as he got caught out frontin' elsewhere as he attempted to parade look-ups for experience and got called out on it
We, the members of U.S. Military Officers for 9/11 Truth, believe that there remains a pressing need for a new and independent criminal investigation into the events of 9/11/01. There is incontrovertible publicly available evidence since that day that the official account of the events is incomplete and fraught with errors.
Bush and Cheney refused to appear before the Commission separately and both refused to testify under oath, instead meeting with panel members informally and in private, with no recordings of the meeting allowed.
Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow had closer ties with the White House than he publicly disclosed He tried to influence the final report in ways that the staff often perceived as limiting the Bush administration’s responsibility and furthering its anti-Iraq agenda. Government Accountability Office records show his frequent calls to the 456 telephone exchange in the 202 area code used "exclusively" by the White House. Yup, No Conflict of Interest there folks. None at all
@Merlin5by5 That's absolutely true. That's also really fkn weak considering everything else. Guess you couldn't Ctrl+F through your precious little reports fast enough huh ? Douche ! My buddy asked me, where's our fkn model ? Still waiting.
@JJTheJunkMan1 Aw you gave a website how nice let me guess it will be a bunch of "experts" on 9/11 saying it was a set up or some low ranked angry ex soldiers or just shit you&all your other firends probablt just heard some one else say&rite then& here said it was true.The truth is we were attacked.But you will nevr listen so go smoke some more pot& stand on the corner telling people the government is using cell phones to see our brain waves&let the people who really know do what they do
@frosty7001 So your little 21 year old brain likes to let your little 21 year old ass get led around by it's nose. Sorry pal, no pothead here. Also not a little snot-nosed drone either, but you go run along and be sure to tell The Man I said he can kiss my ass. Idiot. If half you dipshits thought for yourselves it'd be scary. And no, you're absolutely correct. I will never LISTEN to a bunch of fkn parrots. Go read something that hasn't got "Govt Approved" stamped on it
@JJTheJunkMan1 "Go read something that hasn't got "Govt Approved" stamped on it" oh good one. Why would that be better so then i can read a book wrote by some guy who probably never even liked this country. AAWW you have no other argument but to say its because im 21 oh that hurts. All my thoughts are of myself i have listened to both sides and your side does not make much sense infact it sounds more like a bunch of parnoid por smoking idiots.
@frosty7001 Okay well I tell you what; You see all my other comments down there ? You go and you research everything I've posted down there and if any of it isn't substantially backed up by public record, testimony, video, etc, etc THEN you can come back and call me paranoid. And another thing Fuckhead, I missed it the first time around. Don't you ever disrespect ANYONE who served this country, regardless of what you may think about their personal feelings about ANYTHING you fkn little scumbag.
@JJTheJunkMan1 "Don't you ever disrespect ANYONE who served this country" well you disrespect those men&women who dies in 9/11 by trying to find away to make it look like their onw country did it. The terorirst lived here learned hot to fly. they had box cutters and if you dont think i can take over someone with a box cutter tell me whereyou live!the video shows a damn plane .You will probably say no because where is the plane?just ebcause the news camera dont show it does not mean its not there
@frosty7001 I love it when you, et al. immediately accuse someone of disrespecting those who died on 9/11 by way of their having the audacity to question the Govt narrative. Let me ask you something; Where did our $2.3 trillion go ? Rumsfeld announced it on 9/10/01 ( certainly knew before then ). So where is it ? Oh thats right; the hijacker, instead of plowing straight into the pentagon, pulled a U-turn and slammed into it RIGHT SMACK into the Defense Budget Analysts' offices>> Bye Bye evidence
@JJTheJunkMan1 No i don not smoke pot. I go to college i am going i go to ucsd i have been there for 3 years. I worked hard to get there i had to keep a 3.o average in high school to get there and i work as i am doing it. My grand father was in vetnam and my brother has been a marine for about 8 years. So fuck you if you say i dont love this country our those who fight for it. If anything your the american hating paranoid fuck face
@frosty7001 And congratulations to you sir. I don't smoke, drink, drug, cheat, etc Went to college. Got married. Had kids. Started a business and so on . Lost family and friends from WWI all the way up to Gulf 1. Still have a number of friends in AF as well as DoD as well as LE. I am far from what you envision as the "hippy on the corner". Sorry to disappoint. However, I do not and will not buy an "alibi" with as many holes and contradictions and coincidences as the Govt's. nor should anyone
@JJTheJunkMan1 Alibi with "holes" your "proof that 9/11 was an inside jobs with about as many holes as swiss cheese infact you have about as much proof as oj had when he was "proving" he was innocent(there is none) aaawwww so having kids and not drinking(yea sure) Starting a business(what was the business?) knowing some people drom the dod, the le, dmv, and lg lmao makes you some sort of expert on this?
@JJTheJunkMan1 My grandfather still has knows people serving so does my brother infact my brother was one of the guys in charge of explosives in iraq. He said so do the real professionals, you know the guys who know things not som angry middle age man talking shit say it was not an inside job those planes could have made that much damage. But anyways we could go back and forth on who we know& how much you "know" but you will never face facts because your dor som reason bitter.
@frosty7001 Yeah, rather convenient to suddenly remember your bro's "in charge of explosives" don't you think ? What branch ? What MOS for that matter ? And again with the angry, shit-talking, America hater. Yeah, cuz only a bad American would dare question his Gov't. Especially now that they've just copped to fighting all these wars to protect our interests in, and access to, Mid East oil just as my angry, bitter self's been hollerin' all along wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=rAgv6HaOHzM
@JJTheJunkMan1 if you look at my posts you will see that i said my brother is in the armed froces all along. He ws a marine and my grandfather was the navy. when did they ever copp to doing anything for oil? Oh and by the way why should i go to the website your are telling me? All it will do is try and blnd me from the truth and try and convince me that your argument(WHAT LITTLe ONE YOU HAVE) os valid.Iam done with you&all these dumb pot smoking bitter american ahting paranoid idiots
@frosty7001 By the way; My website that's gonna " try and blind you from the truth" is just the 25th US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, blinding you with the FACT that; and I quote " ..all the critical oil and natural gas producing regions THAT WE FOUGHT ALL THESE WARS FOR to protect our economy from the adverse effects of losing that supply or being unable to access it except at extremely high prices" ........ALL of America should be bitter my little gov't sheep. Each and every one.
As for paranoid; I've been spouting off for weeks on my FB page that Uganda was next due to things I'd been reading about. Result ? " Oh God JJ, you're so paranoid ", etc, etc........
Guess where we just sent troops two days ago .........But that's okay. You just go ahead and trust the nice Man from da gubmint
@Merlin5by5 No sir. You are correct ( give the man a cigar ) as I am none of those. However, I AM a business owner ( metals in fact ) with the spare time to ACTUALLY do the research I claim to, as opposed to being a parrot and a plagiarist ( ummmm, YOU ). You may be able to fool everyone else who may not have the time or inclination to check on that which you spout off about. But I ain't one of 'em. As I pointed out, S.D.Chastaine was the author, and the photos are of "Iron" being "Poured".
@Merlin5by5 No, they weren't "challenged" by "Chastain". They were flat out "corrected" by Chastain. I suggest you refer to photos of all molten metals. Or, if you prefer, actually get yourself the equipment you claimed to have as well as use, which is obviously false as any fool can see just through ANY SINGLE OTHER photos of molten Al other than Judy's, it DOES NOT RADIATE on it's own. Brass does. Copper does. Bronze does. Tungsten does. ALL iron and steel does. Al does NOT
@Merlin5by5 Aluminum does not visibly radiate at normal melt temps. Metal pouring out of the building was not red, it was orange. Red is nowhere near melt. Molten iron becomes white only at extreme temps otherwise it's orange, which is funny as thermite will melt iron to "white hot" . and My point, which you are certainly aware of with regards to your 500lbs is that a weight when spread out over a distance is not the same as one concentrated on a small point. Oh& pouring Al still don't "glow"
@JJTheJunkMan1 I am the one who get led around by my nose?HAHAHA ok le tme guess your probably about 40 years old mad because you dont have as much money as you "deserve"&you think the governments on the radio waves trying to get us just like the got jfk rite? Yea i bet you probably were a stone rin your early years huh. Oh be careful when you reply back because pssss....pssss.... *the government is watching" lmao go back to the couch so you can watch some more jesse ventura and smoke some pot
@frosty7001 40, yes. Mad, yes. Because of dipshits like yourself who find it more convenient to sit on their ass and get spoon-fed than to actually research anything for themselves. Wrong on several points. No, my early years were spent busting my ass to get where I am now. No, I'm actually doing quite well. Thanks for your concern. More importantly, I did it all on my own. Now I can only assume that it is YOU who is the pothead here as it is YOU that has made the accusation not once, but twice
@frosty7001 Even if one is to believe that all four buildings and all those citizens were solely the victims of a legit terror plot, the periphery alone should raise enough questions to cancel that out. EX A small ragtag group of ill-to-uneducated mountain men hatch a plot to "invade thru deception" and proceed to keep an airtight seal on the lid of such, evading the vast expanse that is the most sophisticated, far-reaching and invasive intelligence network the world and history have ever known
I find it odd that, in reference to the 9/11 Commission Report, on 9/6/01 NORAD exercises included hijacked airliners w/ terrorists' agenda to "Rain down terror from the skies upon major US cities". And then, in direct relation to personal suspicions with regards to flight 93, on 9/9/01 the NORAD exercise dujour is a hijacked airliner, intended to be blown up over NYC, proceeding to be blown up after having been intercepted and diverted from it's intended target. All there in black and white.
@JJTheJunkMan1 Those terrorist came here and learned how to fly and they went on those pl;anes with box cutters. If you dont think its possible to scare some one with box cutters tell me where you live and we will see. There has been no question from 9/11 that any o fyou parnoid pot heads have asked that there is no logical answer but you guys just love to try and find something bad about america
@frosty7001 See, here's where facts kick in. Go look at the passenger lists and then come back with that narrowminded mentality You have a preponderance of military and defense personnel on-board. You may or may not be familiar with the CQ and H2H training involved in basic and on-going training with regards to empty-hand disarming, etc. That fact coupled with a sense of duty, and you can still actually believe 3/4 guys could take over 60 people with blades smaller than your thumbnail....Right-O
@JJTheJunkMan1 first off there were no defense personnel. Second not only did the terrorist have box cutters they also had abombs strapped to their chest maybe fake but if someone tells you its real no one will try and find out. Oh now are trying to say we go to the middle east for oil yea and it has nothing to so with the fact sadam was an evil man who killed thousands. Iran? like theyare angels they treat there people like animals. I am the sheep? lmao
@frosty7001 "An evil man who killed thousands"...maybe you should familiarize yourself with the estimates of civilian deaths directly attributable to US led UN sanctions around the globe for say the last 15 years, to US bombs and missiles, to US incursions into foreign lands every time we don't agree with some sovereign nation that just happens to be on oil-rich land. You can demonize one man for thousands of deaths, but it's otherwise justified when it's YOUR man doing it, is that about right ?
@Merlin5by5 I believe there's a technical term for putting words into another's mouth; It's called bullshit. Where do you see my claiming anything beyond the word "thousands" ? <<< *Hint- " hovering around 150,000 " still resides within "thousands" last i checked. BIGGER FAIL. Nice try once again.
"familiarize yourself with the estimates of civilian deaths directly attributable to US led UN sanctions"
That's the LANCER report, which estimated ONE million deaths by 2004.
There have been no other estimates of civilian deaths, and in 2004, the estimate by both the US and the UN was under 100,000 (It was 74,900, actually)
NICE OF YOU TO BACK PEDDLE so vigorously. Shows the mental acrobatics it takes to be a conspiracy NUTJOB.
@Merlin5by5 Um, no. Sorry, that was me telling you or whomever it was that if they think it so unbelievable that the govt would kill a few thousand then they should familiarize themselves with the estimates......period. I didn't specify One million and I certainly didn't specify ANY such report. Nice of YOU to attempt to put words in my mouth yet AGAIN
Now Iran presents the only viable threat of opposition to US oil interests, expansion, and the obvious military occupation, colonization and consolidation of control over all oil-rich regions, and whaddya know..... Iran's just gotta go ( even though our govt has acknowledged this so-called Iranian plot was in fact a construct OF our govt in the first place, yet it is STILL being touted as justification for yet another armed incursion into the oil-bearing regions. Sleep tight lil' sheep.....
"but you guys just love to try and find something bad about america" LOL....... Get back to me when you wake up in about 20 years or so. Saddam announces nationalization of Iraqi oil, suddenly he gotsta go. Quaddafi announces nationalization of Libyan oil, suddenly he gotsta go. Uganda's Parliament announces freezing it's oil sector a week ago.....US troops are on the ground as of 2 days ago. In all cases, there were pre-cursors, entirely false and proven so, that req'd humanitarian intervntion
@JJTheJunkMan1 If you dont like a usa so much&you think the middle east are the innocent victims then go live there and fight for them! What no?yea so STFU you america n hating paranoid hippy i cant belice your on your computer i always thought people like you stayed away from computers and was afraid because the government is reading our minds and they want sus all to die LMAO now run along smoke some pot think of more ways that jfk could have been killed&go take a nap in mom babsement
@frosty7001 Wow, now there is yet another textbook reaction. Sorry, but being "American" is all but synonymous with Govt distrust. You can take your anti-american / un-patriotic bullshit labels and pound them. I happen to love my country. "My Country". and luckily that doesn't preclude a necessity toward loving my government, which I most certainly do not. You honestly think you do any of OUR fallen any honor or service by swallowing the Govt narrative regardless of gaping holes there-in ?
@taillebasse1 this is the most befuddling part of the pentagon story, the contradictions between some eyewitness accounts and logic. I don't claim to know what happened, but i want to find out. As for your other comments, no it's not easy to believe that the government allowed this to happen, but it's pretty obvious that they did.
It is so sad that people really are terrified to here the trueth....and why shouldn't they be! If a government can pull off something as dispicable as this....what else are they capable of doing??? Time to get answere.
@taillebasse1 I understand how you feel. My only question is, why won't they let us see the tapes? They allowed tons of footage of the attacks on the WTC to be released. Why is this event so different?
No plane hit the Pentagon. I can prove it. Watch "National Security Alert - 9/11 Pentagon Attack" on YouTube. This amazing documentary blows the lid off the 9/11 cover up. Please share.
has any one ever concider it was a ufo ( the last damaged wall was circular the nose of the plane could not have made it through all those walls) and if you look above the roof next to the flame cloud you could see an object develope
1.) People found nano-thermite in the WTC debris and when lighted it exploded. (Look it up.) How is that possible if 911 wasn't faked?
2.) In order to consider the possibility that 911 was faked, you'd have to consider the fact that the government would be against us finding it out. So why would you cite a government website such as NTSB?
Niels H.harrit is another scientist who has confirmed nano thermite...and 8 others that I know of. Stevens does not have sufficient samples to release..further, this was verified on a molecular level, not just based on colors, negative peer reviews would be present out of sheer fear and intimidation, as to the rest of your claims, back them up.
@FBIRyan Whatever the government did. They did it to better the USA. The problem is that they have disreguarded morals in order to secure our future. I believe they knew of the the attacks and decided to let them play out. The CIA is no joke. If the best option was to let them play their little games and then help out investors. The building changed lease holders, and the port changed directors 6 months before 911. The port required a new terrorist insurance be bought by SIlverstien. hmm
Hundreds of witnesses saw flight 77 go down at the pentagon. Parts of the plane were recovered inside of the building, along with passenger items including wedding rings. Truthers are morons with computer access.
@dreadnaught2 but 1000s of ppl saw a missile, nope the pentagon lawn was totally clear after inpact, with a 15ft hole from the 'melted' plane?? really???? you must be on the low end of cointel-pro.s pay scale!
Cont.:
Non comparing because showing not crashes of planes into buildings like Amsterdam 1992 or Iran 2005, why not? 7) They come with the cams again and that FBI confiscated and never had released. Fact is, no one asked about cam type, for example the traffic cams have by fact very low fps and would have lesser filmed as the video from gate cam.
Enough about vid told, or shall I go further? Again only the same sedition story as always and sad that people believe this truther BS really!
Mandelus71 1 month ago 2
@Mandelus71
Well written and showing the truth behind this BS of truther evidence and explaining!
In fact it is a good example to expose the truth behind truther movement!
xTiger2Bx 1 month ago
Again truther sedition here!
1)“A boing 757 weighting 80ton”: Real truth = 99.7tons, ER = 115tons (source Wikipedia). 2) Destruction span at 0:39 clear visible that far more as claimed 15ft in ground floor. 3)“Intact windows”, no word that in fact they were armoured glass, why? 4) Naming a dozen people telling no plane, concealing over 100 telling it was a plane, why? 5) Ignoring that wings are like knifes and fold inside / back to hull 6) Showing non comparing crashes as examples here
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Mandelus71 1 month ago 2
In case someone should be surprised by the capability of resistance of the P building... The side which was hit was already reinforced because they were implementing the lessons learned of the Oklahoma City incident of 1995.
And how the durability of a reinforced building can be indicate the footage of the Kenyan embassy incidence in 1998 where the embassy building structure stayed nearly fully intact while some meters away a not specially reinforced building collapsed completely.
hammondtree 1 month ago
blah blah blah... read the report 190+ people saw the plane hit the building. people who were actually there that day not just watched conspiricy videos on the net.what do u say happened to the plane and passengers? if the plane didnt hit the pentagon what happened to them? what about the cab driver who's cab was crushed by the light pole that the PLANE hit? the rescue workers who reported clearing up bits of passengers bodies?never seen proof from a truther yet. dont beleive i ever will.
lewismclinton 2 months ago
@lewismclinton ur right about witnesses seeing the plane approach the pentagon..allbeit not 190 plus people..no need to exaggerate..and the witnesses stories all contradict the offical report of the pentagon ( albeit just the path of the flight..)..and you mention the cab driver..ive watched a documentry..where the man himself admits that pole hitting his cab was staged..in order to find the truth..you have to know where to look. peace
MettiSNSD 2 months ago
@MettiSNSD havnt seen the documentry with the cab driver, but i'll have a look.but it dosnt detract from my point,the witnesses the rescue workers the wreckage and body parts of the passengers? how are they to be explained?16foot round hole? what do u expect to be left of the plane when it has disintegrated and travelled through 3 office buildings at 500 mph?if it wasnt a plane, what happened to the passengers and crew? think about how many people would have to be involved in a conspiricy ..cont
lewismclinton 2 months ago
@MettiSNSD do you really think all those people would have kept their mouths shut for the last 10 years? take a look at the passenger list, just ordinary people going about their daily lives. gone. no contact with their families/freinds etc. if it was a missile where are they? isnt it reasonable to assume that at least one of them would have broken cover?im no expert, just an ordinary person who is amazed at the lies that people can convince themselves of. peace.
lewismclinton 2 months ago
@MettiSNSD i never once said there was a missile involed..just going by a documentry i watched..where the witnesses reports all went against the offical report..regarding the planes flight path towards the pentagon..it seems weird that the official report would lie about the path of the flight..isnt it? also i mentioned how the guy whose taxi got hit by a pole..admits to it being staged...i mean that alone..make sthe whole situation questionable doesnt it?
MettiSNSD 2 months ago
@MettiSNSD 9.11 has thousands of for and against ideas/videos/opinions/theories towards 9/11 being a conspiracy..with all the things ive watched ( both for/against)..and gathered to make opinions for myself..just like ur doing..the for ( that being an inside job ) overwhelmes the against. im not fueding with u..just a sharing opinions, peace.
MettiSNSD 2 months ago
@MettiSNSD no u didnt, but the video we are posting under does.i agree that the taxi driver thing is questionable. but that the us government is competent enough to pull off a deception on this scale? dosn't seem very likely does it? well not to me anyway. ive seen so many truthers claims refuted,fake planes,fake phone calls bombs in the buildings etc. it leaves them with next to no credibility. theres a bbc documentry called 9/11 conspiricy road trip. its worth watching. peace.
lewismclinton 2 months ago
Great video & further damning evidence against the USA. I like American people but tehir government are corrupt to the core & always have been since the days of Lincoln. I kinda view them in the same way I do Russia....totally untrustworthy. I find it remarkable so many brainwashed Americans think their leaders smell of roses yet so many well educated around the rest of the world see what happened on 911 as purely an exploitation of a known terrorist attack. This recession thing though....Karma?
foriamonlyahorse11 2 months ago
You have to love the poor reasoning skills of this moron who posted the video. If this happened this way that means this must be what happened hear, but you still cannot demonstrate a single truther claim. Damn, no wonder you idiots are always saying stupid shit. Its because you are stupid.
db10001110101 3 months ago
look at the video footage its not a plane its obviously a missile how can anyone say differently
boogiebuddy01 3 months ago
The public statements of many survivors contradict the Commission Report. And the words and actions of some of the victims on that terrible day are in conflict with the Commission Report.
wwwDOTpatriotsquestion911DOTcom/survivorsDOThtml
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
According to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter; The Senate Judiciary Committee first attempted to investigate the matter for the Senate in September, 2005. The Pentagon "ordered five key witnesses not to testify", "That looks to me as if it may be obstruction of the committee's activities," Specter, R-Pennsylvania
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Anyone with any questions about merlin's sacred text, otherwise known as the 9/11 Commission Report, can just PM me as I've got a wealth of info and resources as to just how unreliable it is.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
In a letter dated January 6, 2004, the Commission was refused permission to question terrorist detainees, with inquiry leaders Hamilton and Kean being told there was “A line that the Commission should not cross,” in the course of its investigation.
wwwDOTacluDOTorg/files/assets/CIADOTpdf
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=FAxyUPwZsGI
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
more govt bullshit
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
But wait, there's more:
9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer, speaking to CNN, stated that Commission members were considering a "criminal probe" of false statements. “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting,” Roemer told CNN
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Funny how my man merlin likes to leave out all this other stuff about the Ommission Report. And I'll bet he's got some smarmy little insulting bullshit of a reason for it as well. Fkn Shill !
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerry also stated he believes that there are legitimate reasons to believe an alternative version to the official story.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
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Senator Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 Commission after calling it a “national scandal” “One of these days we will get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up."
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
wwwDOTmilitaryofficersfor911truthDOTorg/
Because THESE guys would risk everything for US dipshit knownothings, right ?
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
So let's have it Merlin old boy. A high level mathematical model of the impact of 77 taking into account all of the known factors and allowing for resistance etc. And then explain, also mathematically, how exactly it differs from 93 taking into account all of the above as well. Do that, and I will concede that you know your shit. Otherwise it's just that; shit. Oh, and I'm sure you know, but by high level, I don't mean high "school" level. Waiting here patiently, JJ
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Look up "Able Danger", Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, Congressman Curt Weldon, the Able Danger team, CIA opposition to Able Danger, Alex Base,
**Major Eric Kleinsmith, Army chief of intelligence for LIWA testified he was ordered to destroy Able Danger info. "I deleted the data. There were two sets, classified and unclassified plus charts we'd produced." Deleting 2.5 terabytes in early 2000 on orders of Tony Gentry, general counsel of the Army Intelligence and Security Command.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
The 9/11 Commission members were appointed by President Bush and Congress. As such, it certainly cannot be considered "independent". They then proceeded to state IN the fkn report that their "aim was not to assign individual blame" ...Then why fkn bother ? Politics, that's why. It's also worth mentioning that even victims' families concur the Commission was a total conflict of interest. Which it certainly and obviously was
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
50 PSI floor strength of the WTC floors, yet ANOTHER statement lifted from the pages of some fkn govt report. The funny thing is even if every single thing in those reports is true, anyone who takes the time to look at news archives and researches all the intel and backstory, etc. would know damn well it's all bullshit. It's just that humans are too fkn lazy to do the work so they rely on being spoonfed by the govt and media as it's too inconvenient to find out your govt lies to you CONSTANTLY
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Imagine the surprise of the 9/11 truthers when they find themselves in hell with the 19 hijackers.
thudar9 3 months ago
Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon and was shredded into tiny pieces.
If it was a missile, then where is Flight 77 and the passengers?
Are they alive?
It would be nice if they are still alive today.
But where are you going to hide a huge plane and its passengers?
Everyone has to accept the fact that 77 hit the Pentagon and is gone forever.
Nothing will bring those brave souls back.
Nothing.
planetcheck 3 months ago
The plane was destroyed of impact u dumb shit
EdawgFootball88 3 months ago
@EdawgFootball88 "destroyed on impact" yet made it's way through over ten feet of steel and Kevlar reinforced concrete, walls, pillars, and contents of not one, not two, but three rings and still further into the service-way leaving behind an almost perfect hole. Meanwhile, over in Pa, another 757 @ identical weight and speed slams into soft fill and goes POOF ! And you have the balls to call someone else "Dumb Shit". Go freshen up on Physics and Newtonian Law, then come back and we'll talk
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
The Plane was destroyed, not the mass, bonehead moron. Each ring of the
Pentagon had FOUR load bearing rebar enforced concrete walls, and the
EXTERNAL wall had it's OWN concrete, brick infill and LIMESTONE facade.
BOTH Boeing 757s (Pentagon and Shanksville) had the highest percentage
of recovered plane debris, 80% and 95% respectively, and both FDRs were
recovered. SO, yeah, basically, YOU are the Dumbshit.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
YOU can't hide the fact you are an uneducated moron, fella. You can't explain
your Abbot and Costello Physics, or Newtonian laws any better than a beaver
in a concrete classroom. This is just NOT your environment.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Please, then by all means; feel free to expand upon your statements without resorting to scripted schoolyard taunts and sandbox insults. And I'M the uneducated moron here ? Your textbook garbage debunker BS is plain to see. So, go ahead. Let's see your education at work. Explain to me, in detail, mathematically, exactly what forces were propagated and transferred at impact and how those forces acted upon all elements of said impact including factors of resistance or lack there-of.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
OH PLEASE, you were going to explain your Physics, remember?
LMAO, The impact of the WTC airliners, or the Pentagon B757 is pretty
easy to calculate, We have the Mass, and the Velocity. F=MA, Mo=MxV
Did you notice there was no term for MATERIALS? Shape? Structure?
120 TONS of Mass at 540 mph did the damage to the Pentagon,
NOT an aluminum airplane. That used to be a third grade question.
What's heavier, a TON of feathers, or a TON of bricks?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Let's use the Associative power of math to illustrate the Pentagon Impact.
120 TONS of 757 is comparable to 6, 20 TON 18 wheelers and trailers. (DOT)
At 540 mph, so it's equal to 12 at 270 mph, 24 at 136 mph, and 48 at 68 mph.
Do you think 48, 20 ton tractor trailer impacts would be an impressive event?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 I absolutely without question DO. But you could have just stuck with the fact that a 100plus ton object slammed into the Pentagon just shy of Mach 1 on an X axial plane impact and still do what you did; which was to illustrate the glaringly obvious contradictions inherent with that event and it's transferal to the pothole in Shanksville in an almost identical impact other than it's Y axial plane and didn't cause so much as considerable displacement even wo considering 50k lbs of kero
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
I have to get back to work, but look forward to continuing this new-found mature line of debate. Thank you.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Why would that be a glaringly obvious contradiction at all?
The Shanksville site had 80 feet of spongy topsoil piled over a 1950s mine site.
IF you could design a structure to absorb impact of a heavy object at airliner
speeds, that would be a good example. HARD structures are compressed
and destroyed on impacts, NOT spongy topsoil, and the hole DOES match the
Pentagon building example in volume of displacement. You don't think that
Hole is a mousehole in a flat wall, do you?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 You've repeatedly called me an anti-semite for reasons that should be completely transparent as you have nothing else to fall back on as the "education" you claim as your own is, in reality, just a not-particularly effective ability to look shit up and paraphrase. Your only references relate to the reports that I'll bet you've spent days upon days reciting to yourself so as to appear educated as your only rebuttals to anything put to you here have been copycat recitations
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 And I find it odd you'd go this particularly simpleton route as opposed to getting into ft/lbs, linear trajectories, AOI's, planar co-ordinates, etc. But I REALLY loved the fact that although at first I thought you'd caught on as you'd pointed out my mis-stated "engineering term", you then (upon my correction there-of) never challenged it's validity with regard to the manner in which it was used. *Hint: It was used incorrectly. Fkn Fraud !
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Anytime you want to get into the 50 PSI floor strength of the WTC floors,
and REAL engineering terms, instead of blarney stone bullshit, like
the "Linear Trajectory" (LOL, is any trajectory NON linear?). You can't
even learn engineering terms to make a comment, LMAO.
Do yourself a favor, stop smoking so much weed, and try to reclaim
the last one or two brain cells left.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 So go ahead Rockstar; Spell it all out for me mathematically. No, I'm no engineer that is certain, but two closest friends are now for 20 plus years; One's civil, so let's have it. Show me your intellect. Prove you're something other than a bullshit artist with a keen wit and a quick mouse. Prove you're more than a parrot and a plagiarist. Please, I beg you. And the term IS linear trajectory douchebag.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
looks like a tomahawk hit it to me.
HUDJames 4 months ago
Where the hell are the victims from this flightt then?
deviatea 4 months ago
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16Djmac 4 months ago
9/11 WAS NOT FAKE!! And saying that it is an insult to all those who dies in 9/11. Are any of you experts on explosives, or anything for that matter? Some of you probably will comment back saying "I am an expert on explosives" or I know a guy who I" but really you are not. Conspiracy theories or at least most of them are things people come up with because either they don’t want to believe it happened or they have another alternative that they don’t tell you
frosty7001 4 months ago 2
@frosty7001 Ur fucking retard. sur eim not an explosives expert but why the fuck did soo many explosived EXPERTS on tvs and demolishion companys come out and say that it was explosives. Please fucking explain it to me.
xXMrM0M0Xx 4 months ago
@xXMrM0M0Xx
NO explosives expert ever said it was controlled demolition except Danny Jowenko.
HE specifically said WTC 1 and WTC 2 were NOT controlled demolition, but that
WTC 7 MIGHT BE, until they told him it was done the same day, which he tried
to deny was possible, and asked THREE times if it was done in one day.
Name another of your pulled-out-of-your-ass explosives experts.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@frosty7001 you just dont want to accept that america killed their own ppl. if you look at all evidence you'll see it.
valtonen77 4 months ago 2
@valtonen77
I did look at the evidence, no one can see it, and you are not presenting any.
Not for Ten years. Didn't you notice?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 could you translate that to english? or even finnish? cant get your point
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
SURE, you are a fucking idiot. Terrorist attack, Dumbshit. TEN years of conspiracy
Ass wipes haven't changed a thing. except the smell.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 you are just so blind. i feel sorry for you.
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Where did you prove that you have physical evidence of a conspiracy again?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 theres not much evidence becouse goverment covered it up pretty good.
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
There isn't a coverup, either, Dumbshit. The evidence was kept for 7 years,
like ALL evidence, and it's been PUBLIC for years, since 9-2009, actually.
The CUMULUS photo and pic data base, the Massaoui trial evidence, the
9/11 Commission testimony, THESE two cams, the lists of witnesses, the
lists of physical evidence. Nothing there is covered up.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 merlin. you are just too retarded to think that other way. first of all. that plane that hit first tower, wasnt normal air plane.... theres evidence of that. and the building fell on freefall even tho crushing buildings slow down while going down. and odly. wtc 7 building was destoryed also. and wtc towers lobby was destoryed when they came down, so there was a bomb. and some other crap... and becouse im little lazy.pls tell what was the reason for terrorist attack
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
NOPE, too smart to be a conspiracy nutjob, and I don't wear tin foil hats.
Let's test your theory. IF I drop a car on you, would it tip-toe around you, to
follow the "Path of Least Resistance"? There is NO EVIDENCE, NONE
of controlled demolition, dumbshit. WE have the firefighters in the lobby,
and the Victims of that fuel explosion dumbshit, right here on YOUTUBE.
Want the URLS?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@valtonen77
WTC, WTC1 FIREMAN:BURNED BODIES IN LOBBY
watch?v=gornqHgiG0A&NR=1
WTC, SURVIVOR OF THE WTC FIREBALL IN LOBBY
watch?v=MMwJK1Z_FZU
WTC, SURVIVOR OF THE WTC FIREBALL OUTSIDE
watch?v=38kEFdUPQyI
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 and freefall?
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
You mean the 2.3 seconds out of 7? AFTER the east penthouse had collapsed
into the building 8 secs before DavidRChandler even started timing it?
I want to point out that's more time than it took the OUTSIDE to collapse.
I would say that's just the perimeter wall, and it fell onto the roof of the slower
descending building. DUH
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 yeah but its not possible that building falls so fast...
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Anytime you want to put 130 million pounds ten feet over your head, and expect
it to "Follow the path of least resistance", and tip-toe around you, rather than
just crush you and keep falling faster, you are welcome to try.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 you should do some research... the falling speed actually goes slower becouse that weight wont matter on falling. theres some cool words for it but cant rememmber. and this is something /watch?v=wYhXLhfWDB0
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Your response is gibberish. The Fall time is 15 seconds for WTC1 and 22 for WTC2.
Actually, you should be aware that the weight is all important, AND the
effect of the weight goes up with every foot its dropped. have someone
drop a 20 lb barbell, ten feet to you. Should be easy enough to setup.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 doesnt work like that whine buildings geting demolished..... theres just oo much resistance... im going to head bed... so bored
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Actually, it does work like that. It's called MOMENTUM.
Every increment of speed MULTIPLIES the impact energy of the MASS.
YOU are being CONSTANTLY accelerated down at 1g even now.
IF you jump off a building, you will break the legs you are standing on.
that's exactly how it works.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 they used bombs to demolish them. and how can you explain that pentagon was hit by missile? there was no wings or any parts of that airplane and that hole wich it made to the building, was smaller than that airplane.
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Both your claims are utter bullshit. No bombs existed, they don't disappear.
It's not nuclear reactions, Bombs just fragment. and there is no fragments.
NO Missile either. Tactical Missiles would have left a smoke trail, cruise
missile would have bounced off the 3 foot perimeter wall. The Washington
Post called the hole 22 to 24 feet the next day, AFTER Pushing the STONE
Wall 12 feet deep into the pentagon. You don't think it's a hole in a flat wall,
do you? Duhhhhhhh
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 well could you pls explain where that airplane disappeared after hiting pentagon?.... i didnt see any part there, only big hole and wings didnt even do any damage to that wall.
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Well, GEE, Fucktard. Maybe you should reply to the Conspiracy nutjob sites
that DO acknowledge a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon. It's NOT like the
Debunkers are the only one to say so. When I google "debris inside the
Pentagon" I get about two dozen returns, how about YOU?
The Washington Post saw wing damage, and pointed out the next day.
How come your ignorant faggot ass can't?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 next day? lol.. and the recent day plane hit? no wing dmg... you are just so fucking stupid to eat all that crap what americas goverment feeds you. and their plan success. you are thinking just the way they want and you cant even realise it .
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
YUP, the very next day, dumbshit. The Washington Post pointed to the Wing
damage with Yellow Arrows over the William Morris photos, including that
with the PRE-Collapse Impact Hole. Fucking Idiots like you don't want to
go to the Library, as the William Morris Photos are copyrighted. The Jason
Ingersol photos are available, why don't you look at them? They point
out the wing damage you claim doesn't exist also. SUCKS to be an
ignorant, dumbshit Conspiracy Nutjob, Huh?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@valtonen77
PENTAGON, JASON INGERSOLL 9/11 PENTAGON PICS
dodmedia. osd. m il/ Assets/ Still/ 2002/ Marines/
Pentagon attack pics are in the upper range, ie
DM-SD-02-03900. JPE G
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Wow. you are textbook. Childish insult after childish insult, slur, slur, ignorant comment, etc, etc. Care to call me an Anti-Semite while you're at it ? Almost like you're following THE script. Funny that the Ingersoll photos actually contradict the official story more-so than they prove it. Can you even tell me why ? I'll bet that you can't even though you've alluded to your familiarity with them. I'll bet that you never even realized the contradiction.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
SURE I will call you an Anti-Semite, why NOT? Scratch a Truther, and you end up with another white trash Nazi wannabe hating jews because they are supposed to be in charge of international banking from their home above a New York Deli.
Funny that the Jason Ingersoll photos Show Wing damage extending 60 feet of center line, and don't support anything in the conspiracy nutjob category, or YOU would have posted them, LOL.
In fact, the photo I gave you has 757 Engine impact points.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 No; The photo you gave me has what you've been told to believe is wing damage. That having been said; It must make Mommy proud to have her idiotic mind-slave of an illegitimate son ( if you're not actually some hermaphroditic abomination after all ) spew bullshit with regards to another's wrongly assumed beliefs and parade around his ability to paraphrase, plagiarize, and parrot another's work so as to give himself the facade of education and knowledge; of which he has neither.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Be happy to show you many OTHER photos of Wing Damage at the Pentagon.
Jason Ingersoll PICS have at least a dozen examples, or I can pull up some
versions of the WILL Morris Pics if you wish, or the Burning Cars that were
struck by the left wing, or the Generator Trailer with the 757 SPONSON scar.
I mean fella, it's NOT hard to make a fool out of you, it's kinda easy.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@valtonen77
What idiots like you can't understand is a gravity well. Both the upper block of
the WTC towers, and the lower blocks were in a gravity well. BOTH are being
accelerated downward, and only structure holds it up. The structure has been
defeated before any movement begins, or no movement would happen.
NO conspiracy, NO "path of least resistance", and gravity still works the
same way, as it did in Galileo's experiments on a ramp so long ago.
Big Failure.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 and what about those planes? the one crashed on wtc tower wasnt even american airlines plane.
valtonen77 4 months ago
@valtonen77
Yeah, actually, it was. We have cockpit audio of Mohammed Atta for Flt 11,
Ziad Jarrah for Flight 93, Hani Hanjour for Flt 77, and ? for flight 175.
We also have their radar tracks start to finish, and their Luggage and their
personal effects, and the NYC Coroner has their Body Parts.
Need the URL proof of that?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@valtonen77 He can't think for himself. He can only parrot what he memorizes out of govt funded fk'd reports. Ask him to prove anything mathematically as he's supposedly some fkn rockstar engineer. Go ahead, ask him. So far this shill has seen and done it all. If it involves 9/11, he's got a degree in it. Funny though as he got caught out frontin' elsewhere as he attempted to parade look-ups for experience and got called out on it
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 With regards to " the 9/11 Commission testimony "; see my newest posts shill !
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
wwwDOTmilitaryofficersfor911truthDOTorg/
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
We, the members of U.S. Military Officers for 9/11 Truth, believe that there remains a pressing need for a new and independent criminal investigation into the events of 9/11/01. There is incontrovertible publicly available evidence since that day that the official account of the events is incomplete and fraught with errors.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
world911truthDOTorg/military-officer-and-former-cia-911-commission-was-a-cover-up/
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Bush and Cheney refused to appear before the Commission separately and both refused to testify under oath, instead meeting with panel members informally and in private, with no recordings of the meeting allowed.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Nothin' to hide there I guess, right ?
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow had closer ties with the White House than he publicly disclosed He tried to influence the final report in ways that the staff often perceived as limiting the Bush administration’s responsibility and furthering its anti-Iraq agenda. Government Accountability Office records show his frequent calls to the 456 telephone exchange in the 202 area code used "exclusively" by the White House. Yup, No Conflict of Interest there folks. None at all
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Membership=15 actual military members, and 11 are officers.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 That's absolutely true. That's also really fkn weak considering everything else. Guess you couldn't Ctrl+F through your precious little reports fast enough huh ? Douche ! My buddy asked me, where's our fkn model ? Still waiting.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
That's absolutely true. What you don't mention is that there are FAR MORE
military officers and heroes chasing the Loch Ness Monster, UFO abductions,
Nibiru Aliens, and Ghosts, witchcraft, and dowsing, than the 11 officers there.
General Stubblebine was famous for trying to walk thru walls at the Pentagon.
He would bounce off, fall to the ground, and try again.
You can find a tiny percentage of ANY POPULATION to support a Kook Theory.
That's the point.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@valtonen77 that right because they sure got all that rubble out of there in a hurry
charliedog5258 4 months ago
@frosty7001 wwwDOTmilitaryofficersfor911truthDOTorg/
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 Aw you gave a website how nice let me guess it will be a bunch of "experts" on 9/11 saying it was a set up or some low ranked angry ex soldiers or just shit you&all your other firends probablt just heard some one else say&rite then& here said it was true.The truth is we were attacked.But you will nevr listen so go smoke some more pot& stand on the corner telling people the government is using cell phones to see our brain waves&let the people who really know do what they do
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 So your little 21 year old brain likes to let your little 21 year old ass get led around by it's nose. Sorry pal, no pothead here. Also not a little snot-nosed drone either, but you go run along and be sure to tell The Man I said he can kiss my ass. Idiot. If half you dipshits thought for yourselves it'd be scary. And no, you're absolutely correct. I will never LISTEN to a bunch of fkn parrots. Go read something that hasn't got "Govt Approved" stamped on it
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 "Go read something that hasn't got "Govt Approved" stamped on it" oh good one. Why would that be better so then i can read a book wrote by some guy who probably never even liked this country. AAWW you have no other argument but to say its because im 21 oh that hurts. All my thoughts are of myself i have listened to both sides and your side does not make much sense infact it sounds more like a bunch of parnoid por smoking idiots.
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 Okay well I tell you what; You see all my other comments down there ? You go and you research everything I've posted down there and if any of it isn't substantially backed up by public record, testimony, video, etc, etc THEN you can come back and call me paranoid. And another thing Fuckhead, I missed it the first time around. Don't you ever disrespect ANYONE who served this country, regardless of what you may think about their personal feelings about ANYTHING you fkn little scumbag.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 "Don't you ever disrespect ANYONE who served this country" well you disrespect those men&women who dies in 9/11 by trying to find away to make it look like their onw country did it. The terorirst lived here learned hot to fly. they had box cutters and if you dont think i can take over someone with a box cutter tell me whereyou live!the video shows a damn plane .You will probably say no because where is the plane?just ebcause the news camera dont show it does not mean its not there
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 I love it when you, et al. immediately accuse someone of disrespecting those who died on 9/11 by way of their having the audacity to question the Govt narrative. Let me ask you something; Where did our $2.3 trillion go ? Rumsfeld announced it on 9/10/01 ( certainly knew before then ). So where is it ? Oh thats right; the hijacker, instead of plowing straight into the pentagon, pulled a U-turn and slammed into it RIGHT SMACK into the Defense Budget Analysts' offices>> Bye Bye evidence
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 No i don not smoke pot. I go to college i am going i go to ucsd i have been there for 3 years. I worked hard to get there i had to keep a 3.o average in high school to get there and i work as i am doing it. My grand father was in vetnam and my brother has been a marine for about 8 years. So fuck you if you say i dont love this country our those who fight for it. If anything your the american hating paranoid fuck face
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 And congratulations to you sir. I don't smoke, drink, drug, cheat, etc Went to college. Got married. Had kids. Started a business and so on . Lost family and friends from WWI all the way up to Gulf 1. Still have a number of friends in AF as well as DoD as well as LE. I am far from what you envision as the "hippy on the corner". Sorry to disappoint. However, I do not and will not buy an "alibi" with as many holes and contradictions and coincidences as the Govt's. nor should anyone
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 Alibi with "holes" your "proof that 9/11 was an inside jobs with about as many holes as swiss cheese infact you have about as much proof as oj had when he was "proving" he was innocent(there is none) aaawwww so having kids and not drinking(yea sure) Starting a business(what was the business?) knowing some people drom the dod, the le, dmv, and lg lmao makes you some sort of expert on this?
frosty7001 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 My grandfather still has knows people serving so does my brother infact my brother was one of the guys in charge of explosives in iraq. He said so do the real professionals, you know the guys who know things not som angry middle age man talking shit say it was not an inside job those planes could have made that much damage. But anyways we could go back and forth on who we know& how much you "know" but you will never face facts because your dor som reason bitter.
GOOD BYE!
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 Yeah, rather convenient to suddenly remember your bro's "in charge of explosives" don't you think ? What branch ? What MOS for that matter ? And again with the angry, shit-talking, America hater. Yeah, cuz only a bad American would dare question his Gov't. Especially now that they've just copped to fighting all these wars to protect our interests in, and access to, Mid East oil just as my angry, bitter self's been hollerin' all along wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=rAgv6HaOHzM
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 if you look at my posts you will see that i said my brother is in the armed froces all along. He ws a marine and my grandfather was the navy. when did they ever copp to doing anything for oil? Oh and by the way why should i go to the website your are telling me? All it will do is try and blnd me from the truth and try and convince me that your argument(WHAT LITTLe ONE YOU HAVE) os valid.Iam done with you&all these dumb pot smoking bitter american ahting paranoid idiots
goodbye
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 By the way; My website that's gonna " try and blind you from the truth" is just the 25th US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, blinding you with the FACT that; and I quote " ..all the critical oil and natural gas producing regions THAT WE FOUGHT ALL THESE WARS FOR to protect our economy from the adverse effects of losing that supply or being unable to access it except at extremely high prices" ........ALL of America should be bitter my little gov't sheep. Each and every one.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
As for paranoid; I've been spouting off for weeks on my FB page that Uganda was next due to things I'd been reading about. Result ? " Oh God JJ, you're so paranoid ", etc, etc........
Guess where we just sent troops two days ago .........But that's okay. You just go ahead and trust the nice Man from da gubmint
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
You are NOT a gnostic priest, a warlock, a master magician, or have "Secret Knowledge".
You are just another Wack Job on the Internet. Get used to this, it won't change.
God does NOT leave clues to the mysteries of the Universe in Youtube videos.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 No sir. You are correct ( give the man a cigar ) as I am none of those. However, I AM a business owner ( metals in fact ) with the spare time to ACTUALLY do the research I claim to, as opposed to being a parrot and a plagiarist ( ummmm, YOU ). You may be able to fool everyone else who may not have the time or inclination to check on that which you spout off about. But I ain't one of 'em. As I pointed out, S.D.Chastaine was the author, and the photos are of "Iron" being "Poured".
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
S.D.Chastaigne challenged the photos that are a side note of the Judy Woods
Web page. The Photos of the Men Handling Molten Aluminum that
adorn the center of the Web Page, were NOT challenged by Chastaigne.
Did your investigation reveal that?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 No, they weren't "challenged" by "Chastain". They were flat out "corrected" by Chastain. I suggest you refer to photos of all molten metals. Or, if you prefer, actually get yourself the equipment you claimed to have as well as use, which is obviously false as any fool can see just through ANY SINGLE OTHER photos of molten Al other than Judy's, it DOES NOT RADIATE on it's own. Brass does. Copper does. Bronze does. Tungsten does. ALL iron and steel does. Al does NOT
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Sorry there, fella. Challenging photos that are on a small URL to the side of
the PRIMARY photos, and aluminum that is liquid in front of you, in shop
daylight, and being poured in a foundry, takes a special kind of stupid.
The fact is, Dumbshit, that Molten IRON is white, not the red of the WTC2
pour. RED steel or Iron is still a solid, and still 500 lbs a cubic foot.
ANYTHING glows when it's being aerated, including a cigarette coal.
do you think it contains iron or aluminum?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Aluminum does not visibly radiate at normal melt temps. Metal pouring out of the building was not red, it was orange. Red is nowhere near melt. Molten iron becomes white only at extreme temps otherwise it's orange, which is funny as thermite will melt iron to "white hot" . and My point, which you are certainly aware of with regards to your 500lbs is that a weight when spread out over a distance is not the same as one concentrated on a small point. Oh& pouring Al still don't "glow"
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
NOT SO, LOL, Aluminum glows just like any element at 1,000 deg C.
Why not google a temp and color chart for steel or Iron. It will show you
steel being solid and red all the way from 200 C to melting at 1500 C.
Anyone with an electric oven can testify to that. Skilling and company
came up with the crush thru weight of WTC flooring. That floor was
JUST four inches of concrete and a steel waffle sheet. You expect
more than 3,000 lbs of load from that?
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 I am the one who get led around by my nose?HAHAHA ok le tme guess your probably about 40 years old mad because you dont have as much money as you "deserve"&you think the governments on the radio waves trying to get us just like the got jfk rite? Yea i bet you probably were a stone rin your early years huh. Oh be careful when you reply back because pssss....pssss.... *the government is watching" lmao go back to the couch so you can watch some more jesse ventura and smoke some pot
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 40, yes. Mad, yes. Because of dipshits like yourself who find it more convenient to sit on their ass and get spoon-fed than to actually research anything for themselves. Wrong on several points. No, my early years were spent busting my ass to get where I am now. No, I'm actually doing quite well. Thanks for your concern. More importantly, I did it all on my own. Now I can only assume that it is YOU who is the pothead here as it is YOU that has made the accusation not once, but twice
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@frosty7001 Even if one is to believe that all four buildings and all those citizens were solely the victims of a legit terror plot, the periphery alone should raise enough questions to cancel that out. EX A small ragtag group of ill-to-uneducated mountain men hatch a plot to "invade thru deception" and proceed to keep an airtight seal on the lid of such, evading the vast expanse that is the most sophisticated, far-reaching and invasive intelligence network the world and history have ever known
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
And, yes. That intelligence network was ALL of those things even prior to 9/11/01
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
I find it odd that, in reference to the 9/11 Commission Report, on 9/6/01 NORAD exercises included hijacked airliners w/ terrorists' agenda to "Rain down terror from the skies upon major US cities". And then, in direct relation to personal suspicions with regards to flight 93, on 9/9/01 the NORAD exercise dujour is a hijacked airliner, intended to be blown up over NYC, proceeding to be blown up after having been intercepted and diverted from it's intended target. All there in black and white.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 Those terrorist came here and learned how to fly and they went on those pl;anes with box cutters. If you dont think its possible to scare some one with box cutters tell me where you live and we will see. There has been no question from 9/11 that any o fyou parnoid pot heads have asked that there is no logical answer but you guys just love to try and find something bad about america
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 See, here's where facts kick in. Go look at the passenger lists and then come back with that narrowminded mentality You have a preponderance of military and defense personnel on-board. You may or may not be familiar with the CQ and H2H training involved in basic and on-going training with regards to empty-hand disarming, etc. That fact coupled with a sense of duty, and you can still actually believe 3/4 guys could take over 60 people with blades smaller than your thumbnail....Right-O
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 first off there were no defense personnel. Second not only did the terrorist have box cutters they also had abombs strapped to their chest maybe fake but if someone tells you its real no one will try and find out. Oh now are trying to say we go to the middle east for oil yea and it has nothing to so with the fact sadam was an evil man who killed thousands. Iran? like theyare angels they treat there people like animals. I am the sheep? lmao
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 "An evil man who killed thousands"...maybe you should familiarize yourself with the estimates of civilian deaths directly attributable to US led UN sanctions around the globe for say the last 15 years, to US bombs and missiles, to US incursions into foreign lands every time we don't agree with some sovereign nation that just happens to be on oil-rich land. You can demonize one man for thousands of deaths, but it's otherwise justified when it's YOUR man doing it, is that about right ?
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
Lastly, there are NO Claims for Millions of dead from the US invasion of Iraq.
THE LANCER, a left wing UK medical magazine made that claim purely as a
comment, and can't even document close to that number. IRAQ itself doesn't
claim a million civilians dead, and the UN and US estimates, including
IRAQ BODY COUNT hover around 150,000 for all three. BIG FAIL.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 I believe there's a technical term for putting words into another's mouth; It's called bullshit. Where do you see my claiming anything beyond the word "thousands" ? <<< *Hint- " hovering around 150,000 " still resides within "thousands" last i checked. BIGGER FAIL. Nice try once again.
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1
"familiarize yourself with the estimates of civilian deaths directly attributable to US led UN sanctions"
That's the LANCER report, which estimated ONE million deaths by 2004.
There have been no other estimates of civilian deaths, and in 2004, the estimate by both the US and the UN was under 100,000 (It was 74,900, actually)
NICE OF YOU TO BACK PEDDLE so vigorously. Shows the mental acrobatics it takes to be a conspiracy NUTJOB.
Merlin5by5 3 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Um, no. Sorry, that was me telling you or whomever it was that if they think it so unbelievable that the govt would kill a few thousand then they should familiarize themselves with the estimates......period. I didn't specify One million and I certainly didn't specify ANY such report. Nice of YOU to attempt to put words in my mouth yet AGAIN
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JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
Now Iran presents the only viable threat of opposition to US oil interests, expansion, and the obvious military occupation, colonization and consolidation of control over all oil-rich regions, and whaddya know..... Iran's just gotta go ( even though our govt has acknowledged this so-called Iranian plot was in fact a construct OF our govt in the first place, yet it is STILL being touted as justification for yet another armed incursion into the oil-bearing regions. Sleep tight lil' sheep.....
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
"but you guys just love to try and find something bad about america" LOL....... Get back to me when you wake up in about 20 years or so. Saddam announces nationalization of Iraqi oil, suddenly he gotsta go. Quaddafi announces nationalization of Libyan oil, suddenly he gotsta go. Uganda's Parliament announces freezing it's oil sector a week ago.....US troops are on the ground as of 2 days ago. In all cases, there were pre-cursors, entirely false and proven so, that req'd humanitarian intervntion
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@JJTheJunkMan1 If you dont like a usa so much&you think the middle east are the innocent victims then go live there and fight for them! What no?yea so STFU you america n hating paranoid hippy i cant belice your on your computer i always thought people like you stayed away from computers and was afraid because the government is reading our minds and they want sus all to die LMAO now run along smoke some pot think of more ways that jfk could have been killed&go take a nap in mom babsement
frosty7001 3 months ago
@frosty7001 Wow, now there is yet another textbook reaction. Sorry, but being "American" is all but synonymous with Govt distrust. You can take your anti-american / un-patriotic bullshit labels and pound them. I happen to love my country. "My Country". and luckily that doesn't preclude a necessity toward loving my government, which I most certainly do not. You honestly think you do any of OUR fallen any honor or service by swallowing the Govt narrative regardless of gaping holes there-in ?
JJTheJunkMan1 3 months ago
@taillebasse1 this is the most befuddling part of the pentagon story, the contradictions between some eyewitness accounts and logic. I don't claim to know what happened, but i want to find out. As for your other comments, no it's not easy to believe that the government allowed this to happen, but it's pretty obvious that they did.
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ellisqpr86 4 months ago
Great video. Very well done. Everyone watching this video should see the film, "Loose Change."
krjourneyfan78 4 months ago
It is so sad that people really are terrified to here the trueth....and why shouldn't they be! If a government can pull off something as dispicable as this....what else are they capable of doing??? Time to get answere.
84910222 4 months ago
@taillebasse1 I understand how you feel. My only question is, why won't they let us see the tapes? They allowed tons of footage of the attacks on the WTC to be released. Why is this event so different?
SoldatfurChristus 4 months ago
It was a high heat stable round from a F16??
O_o
Legoman775 5 months ago
911.............inside job
kren2012 5 months ago
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alexjones4president 6 months ago
has any one ever concider it was a ufo ( the last damaged wall was circular the nose of the plane could not have made it through all those walls) and if you look above the roof next to the flame cloud you could see an object develope
tlo0942 6 months ago
In reality, the pile of flight 77 debris, was over 85 TONS (out of 120),
and it was featured on the Nat Geo TV special for nearly a week.
it now sits in an NTSB Warehouse at Dulles air port in washington.
It's used as a training subject for NTSB engineers, ERTs.
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5
Since this is such a huge plane, reality tells us that people would see debris.
Instead, we have eye-witnesses who dug through it telling us that there was no debris.
And then there's the only video not taken by FBI showing us that it wasn't flight 77.
So where was the real flight 77 during this, and what happened to it?
FBIRyan 6 months ago
@FBIRyan
Well, Gee, super-genius, since the plane flew into a concrete building,
I am going to be all RADICAL and tell you the debris is INSIDE THE BUILDING.
What exactly is the process you expected to bring the parts outside the
building and display them pretty on the lawn?
The REAL Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon by Terrorists, get used to it,
Buddy, because TEN years of white trash screaming hasn't changed that.
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Your level of naivety is just what the establishment wants.... the perfect sheep. Way to go, Dolly.
ahachie 4 months ago
@ahachie
Your level of fat assed white trash faggot is admirable, and your little whiny
pig squealing under the dick hasn't changed in Ten Years either.
Why do you think the US establishment so easily whips your cockroach ass?
It's competent, you are NOT. get used to it.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@Merlin5by5 Thoroughly proved my point for me. Thank you for being gullible....NEXT
ahachie 4 months ago
@ahachie
Don't see how, I am NOT the only engineer dismissing your craven stupidity.
Theres about 8 million other engineers who feel the same way.
I mean, Dumbshit, you were convinced without a single piece of evidence
From a conspiracy website. How weak minded are you?
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
@FBIRyan
SO, let's deconstruct you Brain Washed Madness.
1. You don't challenge my statement, because I can easily document it (NTSB).
2. You bring up DEBRIS, and I just got done telling you it was on TV for a week.
3. You didn't challenge THAT either.
4. NONE of the eyewitnesses that spoke of little debris had been INSIDE the
Pentagon, where the debris was.
5. THEN you bring up real flight 77, as if there was any evidence or witness of
an UNREAL, or substituted Flight 77.
There is NONE.
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5
Did some more research. I don't even care anymore.
I've spent the entire day looking up 9/11 stuff.
It's got me twisted up man. What's right from left anymore?
You've got proof on both sides.
People heard explosions before the WTC fell.
Molten steel, nano-thermite, iron microspheres.
If WTC was out doing... You'd think the Pentagon would be ours doing as well.
FBIRyan 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5
Forget it.
I only have two questions.
1.) People found nano-thermite in the WTC debris and when lighted it exploded. (Look it up.) How is that possible if 911 wasn't faked?
2.) In order to consider the possibility that 911 was faked, you'd have to consider the fact that the government would be against us finding it out. So why would you cite a government website such as NTSB?
FBIRyan 6 months ago
@FBIRyan
I only have Two Answers.
1. Steven Jones didn't find nano-thermite. He found red-gray chips that he claims are NT.
No one else, has found those red-gray chips, and NO OTHER LAB has ever found NT.
NOT in Ten Years, NOT EVEN other Truthers. Steven won't release his samples to
another Lab, and he had to PAY $800, at MIDNIGHT, in EGYPT, to get it published.
The Technical Editor QUIT OVER IT, and so did the TE they hired after her.
Thats an incredibly negative PEER review. That's the point
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5
But Wait, there's MORE. (Thanks Ron Popiel).
1... Take a look at the Truther Lab report, and you find they even faked their lab.
S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA; Tel: 801-735-5885;
Call 411, it's free, and ask for S&J in Provo, Utah. It's NEVER been there.
Call the number, it doesn't answer. It's NOT a laboratory at all, it's a part time,
BYU chem professor who "Borrows" BYU chem equipment, and writes about
Mormons in Outer Space. That's NOT an exaggeration. It's THAT BAD
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@Merlin5by5
Niels H.harrit is another scientist who has confirmed nano thermite...and 8 others that I know of. Stevens does not have sufficient samples to release..further, this was verified on a molecular level, not just based on colors, negative peer reviews would be present out of sheer fear and intimidation, as to the rest of your claims, back them up.
preparadox 6 months ago
@preparadox
NOPE, sorry, what STEVEN JONES found was red / gray chips that no one
else has found, anywhere in New York. He CLAIMS they are nano thermite,
and produced a fraudulent Lab Report, not from a lab, but a byu professor.
HERE is the phone:S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA; Tel: 801-735-5885;
Go ahead and call PROVO UTAH 411 yourself, it's NOT a business, it's a prepaid
cell phone, and the address is a UPS STORE MAILBOX.
THE SEM images were NOT EVEN of the red / gray chips.
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@preparadox
OH, BY THE WAY, Niels Harrit signed the Jones produced Twoofer Lab report
sight unseen from his home in Denmark. SO did the 8 others. I have the
report, do you?
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@preparadox HERE's your sign.
WTC DUST, and NO RED GRAY CHIPS Photos. THIS IS NYC DUST STANDARD.
inspectapedia. com/ WTC/ WTCdust. htm
USGS SPECTROSCOPY LAB, HERE is the dust distribution by element
speclab. cr. usgs. gov/wtc/
WTC DUST, and USGS FE SURVEY. No red / gray chips over any NYC area
pubs. usgs. g o v / of/ 2001/ ofr-01-0429/ feats-1um. html
WTC, WTC DUST, FE FROM TENEMEC PAINT CONCRETE DUST
pubs. usgs. g o v/ of/ 2001/ ofr-01-0429/ feats-1um. html
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@preparadox HERE's your sign, #2.
WTC, 13 DUST Toxicity Study Projects
eohsi. rutgers. edu/wtc/ehnetwork/Projects. shtml
WTC, NASA AVIRIS:HOT SPOTS NEVER GOT OVER 800 C
THAT'S 1700 C UNDER THERMITE TEMP, 700 C UNDER MOLTEN IRON
pubs. usgs. gov/of/ 2001/ofr-01-0429/ thermal. r09. html
WTC, WTC DUST, and USGS CHEMISTRY
pubs. usgs. gov/of/ 2001/ ofr-01-0429/chem1/ index. html
Hows that for backing up my claims?
Merlin5by5 6 months ago
@FBIRyan Whatever the government did. They did it to better the USA. The problem is that they have disreguarded morals in order to secure our future. I believe they knew of the the attacks and decided to let them play out. The CIA is no joke. If the best option was to let them play their little games and then help out investors. The building changed lease holders, and the port changed directors 6 months before 911. The port required a new terrorist insurance be bought by SIlverstien. hmm
letmeseethat1 5 months ago
most ''funny'' is that we needed 2see the planes at the WTC
from 20angles in slomo, 20times a day,for months on end
while the pentagon is filmed with atleast 100 cameras,
but only 5frames, are released due 2 ''national security''
showing no plane at all (?) what has 2be secured then?
& if so why isnt that same rule applied to the WTC?
if that doesnt make u wonder...then what does?
cant believe that so many people & Governments
go allong with this story without demanding answers or photos
cutoff808 7 months ago
Hundreds of witnesses saw flight 77 go down at the pentagon. Parts of the plane were recovered inside of the building, along with passenger items including wedding rings. Truthers are morons with computer access.
dreadnaught2 7 months ago
@dreadnaught2 but 1000s of ppl saw a missile, nope the pentagon lawn was totally clear after inpact, with a 15ft hole from the 'melted' plane?? really???? you must be on the low end of cointel-pro.s pay scale!
wellifthemediasaysit 7 months ago