que se vayan a la verga!! Bach es propiedad intelectual del universo entero, que no me chinguen con sus mamadas de que no se puede escuchar en listas de reproducción!! Pendejos, seguro el putín al que se le ocurrió esa mierda nunca ha pretendido escuchar a Bach realmente, ojete y pendejo aparte... Lo peor de todo es que sólo lo hacen por varo... Putos, culeros e hijos de la chingada...
I too think that the fugue needed a bit faster tempo but you cannot say it is not good. In fact it is really good. And Glenn Gould plays bach like it is romantic. It might sound good but it isn't what bach wrote. It is unrealistic and wrong.. But he is glenn Gould. You need to firstly listen to richter and then glenn gould for something more innovative. In other word Richter is the real deal in Bach
a little too fast for me (the prelude) even if it is a toccatta style piece, and the fugue a little too slow to me je je! but he was a genius, I love his Scriabin and all the romantics...but bach...I prefer Glenn Gould...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Richter realized after many years that he'd been playing and F when the score called for F# (can't be sure if it was this piece). He went to the trouble of printing a correction & apology in the liner notes on future recordings of the piece. Such a perfectionist he was !
You're quite right. With the B and the G# that come straight after, you get a C#7 chord, the dominant 7th of F# minor, which takes you to the tonic chord of F# minor via a perfect cadence. Having played both over and over again, I can no longer say whether one is better than the other.
But the fact is that virtually everybody plays E natural, which is presumably in the autograph. So either Bach made a mistake or some meddling editor is trying to improve upon his efforts.
I just love ALL of these - Please try and complete the whole set VERY SOON - And thanks for all the very hard work you have put in to make these truly magical pieces become even more entertaining.
The fugues seem so mathematical, so mechanical but just try looking at the first 10 measures and predict from that what is in the 11th. Can you figure out Bach? You might find that more interesting.
The composer has a central theme and then repeats that theme in different voices (often transposed). Themes playing in different voices are generally offset from each other to create a contrapunctal texture.
This piece is actually an example of a double fugue. Bach starts with one theme, has an exposition of another (msr 8) and then has the two play at once.
Apparently you were under the mistaken impression that I was requesting a definition of fugue. What you say is available in any text book on the baroque. What I was saying was that, even armed with a definition you still cannot predict exactly what Bach would say next. That is his genius. He was not composing with a computer but with his ear.
@highlandsh: As a Bach scholar I have to disagree; You can many times predict what Bach will do next within a composition. In fact, that´s what he himself allegedly amused himself with while listening to the organist during church sermons. Of course, there is always room for some aesthetical choices, but in general Bach followed his own 'rules' quite strictly.
Or perhaps you mean that you can´t predict _exactly_ what he is about to do; in that case you´re right.
i only saw a theme... that one you called theme, is actually a second contertheme (in the alto voice), as Ledbetter and Kermer said in their books about the WTC.
@kaiserkill I don't find Richter's interpretation of the fugue boring at all. Perhaps, after the avid prelude, one might expect a faster fugue. However, the fugue, to me, has so much potential (both polyphonic and phraseological) that I don't think Richter could have realized all of its details with a faster tempo.
If you can not play or if you don"t good pianist you write that this fugue is boring. But if you can play you should write: I can play this fugue very interesting ;)
The prelude is the inspiration of Chopin's etude op.10 no.4
largolegato 2 months ago
que se vayan a la verga!! Bach es propiedad intelectual del universo entero, que no me chinguen con sus mamadas de que no se puede escuchar en listas de reproducción!! Pendejos, seguro el putín al que se le ocurrió esa mierda nunca ha pretendido escuchar a Bach realmente, ojete y pendejo aparte... Lo peor de todo es que sólo lo hacen por varo... Putos, culeros e hijos de la chingada...
loinfinitoazul 3 months ago
The prelude is average, it's the fugue that is great, beautiful, evoking painful memories!
mtv565 4 months ago
this is great but does anyone think that the prelude should be played slower?
bornawildchild 7 months ago
wonderful, thanks for posting!
alaric415 7 months ago
I too think that the fugue needed a bit faster tempo but you cannot say it is not good. In fact it is really good. And Glenn Gould plays bach like it is romantic. It might sound good but it isn't what bach wrote. It is unrealistic and wrong.. But he is glenn Gould. You need to firstly listen to richter and then glenn gould for something more innovative. In other word Richter is the real deal in Bach
mariospetros 8 months ago
@TyandMike IMSLP has all the scores you'll ever need.
MrPeriodc 8 months ago
i know the music is right here but can someone show me to where i can print it for free? :D
TyandMike 11 months ago
a little too fast for me (the prelude) even if it is a toccatta style piece, and the fugue a little too slow to me je je! but he was a genius, I love his Scriabin and all the romantics...but bach...I prefer Glenn Gould...
visionfugitiva 1 year ago
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this is WTC2 ! not WTC1
pierchopin 2 years ago
I find the fugue a little boring but I won't criticize the piece. Very good but not my favorite.
morvensky 2 years ago
I agree, I find the prelude here to be very exciting!
Toccata123 2 years ago
Shurely F natural at 3:17/18?
Hardwyck 2 years ago
Well spotted. Although the score says E natural, Richter seems to be playing an E sharp (that, of course, sounds like an F natural).
Pianoplayer002 2 years ago
Yes of course, you're right (just took another look at the score).
Hardwyck 2 years ago
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Richter realized after many years that he'd been playing and F when the score called for F# (can't be sure if it was this piece). He went to the trouble of printing a correction & apology in the liner notes on future recordings of the piece. Such a perfectionist he was !
dmcII 2 years ago
@Pianoplayer002 thats very interesting
moneyjr1122 3 months ago
@Hardwyck In some editions, E sharp is printed. And that really does make sense, because the next chord is an F-chord, tonica in the new key.
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You're quite right. With the B and the G# that come straight after, you get a C#7 chord, the dominant 7th of F# minor, which takes you to the tonic chord of F# minor via a perfect cadence. Having played both over and over again, I can no longer say whether one is better than the other.
But the fact is that virtually everybody plays E natural, which is presumably in the autograph. So either Bach made a mistake or some meddling editor is trying to improve upon his efforts.
Hardwyck 1 year ago
the first 50 seconds or so are ORGASMIC. I don't think I've ever liked a bach piece this much.
DeathByMoshPit666 2 years ago
you remind me of a book...Joseph kermer about the WTC, in the chapter about the fugue in c# minor, book I
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I just love ALL of these - Please try and complete the whole set VERY SOON - And thanks for all the very hard work you have put in to make these truly magical pieces become even more entertaining.
pianojeans 3 years ago
Chopin's Etude in C# minor reminds me of this prelude.
Markohoppis 3 years ago 2
Fugue starts at 0:52.
hornuser 3 years ago
I love this fuge there is somuch maditation insde if only one can find the right key to open it and Richters has done that for us God Bless his soul
Iaparulava 3 years ago 4
I'm a musical newbie. please tell me why you have to "find the right key". Surely it's written on the original score?
tarquin161234 3 years ago
i think he meant it metaphorically, but im not sure!
Ludynosa 3 years ago
mathematics for the soul - geometry that sings -
BACH
thx
ragtimemarkbirnbaum 3 years ago 10
The fugues seem so mathematical, so mechanical but just try looking at the first 10 measures and predict from that what is in the 11th. Can you figure out Bach? You might find that more interesting.
highlandsh 3 years ago
That's the definition of a fugue.
The composer has a central theme and then repeats that theme in different voices (often transposed). Themes playing in different voices are generally offset from each other to create a contrapunctal texture.
This piece is actually an example of a double fugue. Bach starts with one theme, has an exposition of another (msr 8) and then has the two play at once.
evaniax 3 years ago
Apparently you were under the mistaken impression that I was requesting a definition of fugue. What you say is available in any text book on the baroque. What I was saying was that, even armed with a definition you still cannot predict exactly what Bach would say next. That is his genius. He was not composing with a computer but with his ear.
highlandsh 3 years ago
@highlandsh: As a Bach scholar I have to disagree; You can many times predict what Bach will do next within a composition. In fact, that´s what he himself allegedly amused himself with while listening to the organist during church sermons. Of course, there is always room for some aesthetical choices, but in general Bach followed his own 'rules' quite strictly.
Or perhaps you mean that you can´t predict _exactly_ what he is about to do; in that case you´re right.
But it is truly great music!
oabrahamsson 2 years ago
i only saw a theme... that one you called theme, is actually a second contertheme (in the alto voice), as Ledbetter and Kermer said in their books about the WTC.
geheimnisvolle 2 years ago
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the fugue is boring
ibonykeys 3 years ago
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Seconded
Fagleboo 3 years ago
what's boring, the playing or the fugue itself? this fugue is probably the best thing a human mind has invented..
kaiserkill 3 years ago 24
i'm a great fan of bach ,i appreciate the majority of his music,but i DON'T like his fugues.
ibonykeys,Fagleboo you're not alone.
alayeldin 2 years ago
omg
wouterpathetique 2 years ago
You can't seriously call yourself a great fan of Bach then. It's like saying I'm a great fan of Palestrina but I don't like countrapuntal music.
Hardwyck 2 years ago
(Sorry CONTRAPUNTAL music)
Hardwyck 2 years ago
this is one of the silliest comments ever made on the whole of youtube
PapaLeonesPizza 2 years ago 2
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You moron , if you dont like Bachs fugues , you cannot me consider yourself a fan of bach ,
sailingforde04 2 years ago
it's immature to insult a human being who didn't offend you,if you were really touched by bach's music ,you wouldn't have been such a rude person.
i find the preludes of wtc very emotional and full of life,i just don't get this feeling when i hear the majority of his fugues.
bach didn't compose fugues only,he also made concerti,sonatas,suites,oratorios & cantatas.
it's a matter of taste,you shouldn't like every thing you hear just because it was made by bach.
alayeldin 2 years ago
@kaiserkill I don't find Richter's interpretation of the fugue boring at all. Perhaps, after the avid prelude, one might expect a faster fugue. However, the fugue, to me, has so much potential (both polyphonic and phraseological) that I don't think Richter could have realized all of its details with a faster tempo.
maslina10 1 year ago
If you can not play or if you don"t good pianist you write that this fugue is boring. But if you can play you should write: I can play this fugue very interesting ;)
AnnMarry19 3 years ago 5
This fugue is absolutely genius!
adrianmcccxxxiv 3 years ago 3
To ibonykeys:
Well, this is your opinion.
My opinion: this fugue is a masterpiece, played from a giant interpreter.
hansmeyer111 3 years ago 2