Ride Cleveland RTA 2008 New Flyer DE60LFA #2905

[NovaBUSFan]

Doors on both sides?!?!?! BRT???

[TheTransitCamera]

@NovaBUSFan Yep. In the downtown area there are center platforms where riders board on the driver's side.

[NovaBUSFan]

@TheTransitCamera

Interesting...

[fargeeks]

the main difference between this and the LF version is that this bus is actually nicer looking and a bit longer and the same engine but revs a bit slowly and has a more BOOMING sound

[jfs1988]

How could you tell NABI and New Flyer BRTs apart? What are the similarities and what are the differences?

[TheTransitCamera]

@jfs1988 NABI 60-BRT has a more rounded appearance to the windshield and the front door is a single piece pop-out unit instead of the standard slide-glide doors on the New Flyers. (and most transit buses) The back ends also look different. The NABI brts will have wider slats. I can't post links but you can visit the New flyer website and the North American Bus Ind. website and compare the brt models for each. Visual comparison is probably the best way to learn the differences.

[805219]

Most of the 6400's maybe parked over at Triskett,because they repainted some of

them with the current livery and they ran a few of them on the # 83 on weekends.

I did not see them at Woodhill, they have mostly 99's,21's and the Orion uints in

the staging area you can see them from the street.

[TheTransitCamera]

@805219 Thanks! I was wondering since i've seen short low floors like the 6400's being used for paratransit in other cities.

[nessey5555]

@805219 Really? Do you think they still run thoses repainted buses that run on the 83 on the weekends?

[newflyer12]

nice

[TheTransitCamera]

Thanks.

[utterbullspit]

How fast do the buses go?

[TheTransitCamera]

I think the top speed along the line was around 35 - 40mph. Most of the line seemed to be about 25-30 between stops. Generally faster than buses in mixed traffic.

[flyerbuses5000]

@utterbullspit it-really-depends-on-the-drive­r

[fargeek]

Hey we have only just one of those DE60LFA In Arizona and it only travels Westbound and eastbound to and from Sycamore and Main ST In Mesa AZ Running VALLEY METRO LINK and yes one bus, one to and fro route.

[TheTransitCamera]

Cool

[fargeek]

yeah plus ours has traffic signal AUTHORITY!!!!!!

[6V92TA]

These buses have the Cummins ISL engine...not the Cat C9.

[805219]

@6V92TA These BRT buses have the Cat engines as the power source, RTA

passed out the spec sheets at the Greater Cleveland Auto Show in Feb.2008

these were the last buses to be ordered with Cat engines,the NABI 2601-2650

and NABI 2801-2845 have CAT engines.

[TheTransitCamera]

@805219 I should edit the CPTDB wiki to add the engine info for some of the GCRTA units. So I have a couple questions if you don't mind. I assume 2801-45 also have Allison B400R correct? Also are the NovaBus LFS Cummins ISC w/ Allison B400R? I have info for the 2200s, 2400s, 2600s, 2700s, & 6400s. Incidentally I heard the community circulators were cut, what happened with the 6400 (64xx-64xx?) Daimler-Chryslers? If you could help out with some of this that would be great :)

[8v71buses]

She is beautiful

[bigken6005]

Voice sounds like the one used with MTA NYCs buses that had the Siemens systems installed. Same depressing Stop Requested.

[jamin108]

This bus has 2 doors on each side ??

[WMATAvids]

Depends on what the TA wants.

[jamin108]

Ok I'm starting to understand it now but whats LFS

[TheTransitCamera]

LFS is "low floor style" thats the term used by NovaBus, a different bus manufacturer.

For New Flyer there is also LFR which means "low floor restyled", the redesign of the original low floor New Flyer which is known as LF.

[TheTransitCamera]

I understand, it's a lot :-D. Mainly it's DE= diesel electric, 60=60 feet long, and LF=low floor. The A I'm not quite sure of but I think it means "advanced design" or something. It means that it's a bus rapid transit styled bus basically.

[805219]

Diesel Electric 60 Low Floor Articulated.

[WMATAvids]

The A pretty much means BRT because youi can tell its articulated in the 60 part.

[WMATAvids]

NICE!! Frekin video!!!!! Cant frekin wait till our's is in service!!!

[TheTransitCamera]

Thanks :-) I have a video of another one BTW and will upload it in the next couple days.

[dontwalkhand]

We have those buses on our Valley Metro LINK service, a similar service to yours, I love the route!

[fargeek]

yeah just one of those though