most of the people that wave the confederate colors don't even know the real meaning...it's just a way to show their racism legally...I'm a confederate by the way
Have you ever seen the kkk march? They ALWAYS have dozens of american flags-but nobody claims the american flag is racist. every once in a great while ONE klan member will have ONE confederate flag with him-why isn't the american flag called racist?
because people are scared of their government and wont say anything about the corrupt tyranny they are causing. Thomas Jefferson said, When the people fear their government their is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty
hirules - its UnBelievable NO one has explain it yet. The kkk did use the confederate flag, But since the south LOST, the KKK uses the Real flag Just as an excuse, something to Hide behind. it doesnt make any Fukin Sense its like the Nazis "after getting their ass Kicked in ww2" marching down the street saying were Back! Waving the American Flag.
its a shame the battle flag is used in relation to racism.. it is because of this that I support the 1st national flag of the confederacy when being proud of my heritage.. it is tattooed on my back and use it all the time... The Stars and bars as it is called isnt hated on by any groups so it is perfect .. in that you can be proud of your heritage.. use a historical flag.. and distance yourself from the ignorant and awful people like the kkk who misuse and tear down the flags image
you, my friend, are ignorant if you think the battle flag is a falg of treason. Fuck the yanks and fuck the union. and by the way, if anyone calls this flag racist, is a moron, because more Union generals owned slaves than confederate generals, and Robert E. Lee NEVER owned a slave.
how is it treason when the government has failed us and is corrupt and centralized isn't that treason against the people since this is supposed to be a government run by the people. This government no longer abides by the Constitution and I believe that is why we're in the condition we're in.
And in fact, by the time The War of Northern Aggression was half over, half the slave owners had given up owning slaves because it was no longer economically feasible to own humans.
McCain is a traitor for supporting open-borders, amnesty and for bashing his own Confederate heritage. He deserves the drubbing he's going to get in this upcoming election. The GOP sure nominated a LOSER!
they will vote for him because he is white.there will be no obama.even if the people vote for his bullshit he will not be president.like what your tv te,lls you about the majority not being racist or not.most wont want a leader who doesnt represent themselves.a black will never be my Leader!honest to GOD!
wow, they don't have to worry anyway. There is no way McCain is going to be president, he has no supporters. I have never met a McCain supporters ever. I have only met people who say they will probably vote for him because they are supporting the gop nominee.
i have not met any supporter either but dont be surprised if he wins. if that day comes, the future of this country will be very gloomy. there will be more voter fraud this time around and they will make him win
You call Southerners hicks?! ummm, I'm pretty sure we have a lot more classy people. Now these folks look like there from the hills (lol) but I am proud of my Southern heritage and always will be! GOD BLESS SC!
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and to form one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may make their own of such territory as they inhabit.
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority intermingling with or near them who oppose their movement.
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and to form one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may make their own of such territory as they inhabit.
Thats true. 2 things. 1-since when do southern rights advocates quote Lincoln?
2-If the entire population decides a government is abusive it has the right to overthrow it. That doesn't mean that if a state or even city disagrees with the fed gov. they have the right to withdraw from the USA. Thats called a rebellion, and putting down a rebellion is not only constitional, but constitutionally mandated.
Lincoln was quoted to show secession as an american principal,common knowledge.
Civil unrest is coming. The hordes of illegal immigrants are allowed here for cheap labor. 9/11 happened because of this governments refusal to enforce law. It's all about money Rob. Iraq, immigration, Iran, an overseas empire for the monopoly men.
Look up "Christian Exodus" on your search engine. You don't have to agree with it, just showing you people are fed up.
i am still unsure as to if i want these Christian Exodus people moving to my state. we have had sooooo many invaders lately and everything is gettin all cityfied and theres wayy to many yanks and it just dont seem good. but i do agree with anything that keeps them borderjumpers from gettin my residential construction job. work is hard enough to get with this economy. we have just enacted local laws to punish their employers .
all you yanks and border jumpers stay away from carolina!!!
It is significant that no Confederate leader was ever brought to trial for treason. A trial would have brought a verdict on the constitutional legality of secession. Federal prosecutors were satisfied with the verdict that had been decided in battle.
This flag is the symbol of an insurrection against the United States of America, its Constitution and the founding fathers of our country that represents a lost and corrupt ideology of the people that flew the flag. It is not against the Constitution or law to own one but true Americans should know that if they do choose to worship this flag they are holding something that was against the United States. I true act of patriotism would be to denounce that flag and vow not to fly it
Absolutly right. If California created a new flag with the communist (sic/hammer)symbol instead of the star in the corner, I asure you the first people to say it's discracefull will be those in the south. The flag represents a government who made itself an enemy of the USA.
That flag is a soldiers battle flag. The Christian Cross of Saint Andrew. No one is worshipping the flag. It is history, flying it honors those who fought and died.
No African saw that flag on a slave ship. But they did see many U.S. flags. Go figure.
The United States is no longer a government of the people. It is a corporate empire ran on their interest.
In the same way that the civil war was started and ran by rich slave plantation owners and fought by young people that had nothing to gain? Those rich "corporatists" or just the ones alive today?
I was there the day the flag was taken off our capital dome in SC. The flag is a symbal of HERITAGE.....NOT HATE ! Don't we all have to worry about our country and what direction it is taking with all the illegal immigrants we now have ? I work and pay taxes to help these illegals have free health care so they can multiply and have children with a US citizenship. What flag will be flying in the future ? What language will be spoken in the future ? May God bless the USA
As a republican it is hard to watch this. The confederate flag is a symbol of racism to some and heritage to others. The flag represents treason. Bottom line! Seperation from the USA. I hate seeing illegals protest with the Mexican flag-but the confederate flag is worse because they renounced all ties to the USA. TREASON NOT HERITAGE.
Not treason sir. You think these states would have joined the union knowing they would never be allowed to leave? Of course not. We see the same agression today by the U.S. around the world. I don't want to be a part of it. And would move to a southron state if one was to leave the union. Copperhead supporter for independence from an aggressive Corporate driven government.
SEE...Thats a form of treason. You would leave the USA to live in the south, if a state broke away? So you don't want to be an American because of "Corporations." You just proved my point. CSA is a seperatist government that failed.
Rob, again, do you think the states would have joined if they could never leave the union? Never being able to leave the union is tyranny. Common sense says, "I join FREELY and I can leave FREELY. There is no law stating "A State cannot leave the Union once you join." Leaving the USA is not treason sir. Being a U.S. citizen is voluntary.
If you were born in the USA you are a citizen. That isn't voluntary. Your statement about there is no law that says states can't leave....It's called the constitiution......We stoped being a confederacy when we won independence. The articles of confederation was a failure, just like a confederate form of government was a failure. If you consider yourself a southerner first and an American second then you are no better then the illegals that come here waving a mex flag.
Yes, being Born in the USA qualifies one to be a citizen. It does not mean the government owns you and you cannot ever leave. The constitution does not have any clause or law out-lawing secession. It's just not there.
It's called the supremacy clause. We aren't a union of loose states that can leave whenever we want. If thats the case then cities would be able to declare independance from the states.
The states would not have joined if knowing they could never leave. Your " supremacy clause " has nothing to do with it. Your supremacy clause is not law-- it doesn't exist. You're reaching on that statement.
Have you actually read the constitution? Have you ever read the federalist papers? The constitution doesn't say "states cannot leave the union" The constitution article 1&2. Read the entire thing and show me where it gives the states the right to leave whenever they see fit. Tell me of one document that is a part of our republic that allows the states to leave.
Read Article 1 Section 10....No state can enter into a union or confederacy....Read it yourself. Also that no State my raise a standing army without the consent of Congress. What if??? The fact is they knew that was in the constitution, and they signed on to it. Look at ARTICLE 1 SECTION 10 OF THE CONSTITUTION BEFORE RESPONDING.
Brother Rob, don't ya think the So-states knew of the article? Lawyers were all over the legal aspects of secession. They could not do anything in article 1- section 10 as long as they claimed to be a part of the U.S. That is why the southern states left the union separately. Once separate, then the formation took place. Again, no state would have joined the union if they knew leaving was not allowed. Does it get much simpler than that? Section 10 is applicable while being a part of the union.
Wrong. The Southern states signed on to it, lived by it, then when it became convienient they decided to abandon it. When you abandon the nations constitution you abandon that nation.....TREASON. The only reason none of the tratiors were prosecuted is to try to heal the nation and reunite it. Could you imagine what the country would have been like after the war then have to endure long drawn out trials? The Constitution is clear. No state may enter into any confederacy. Case closed.
The framers secceded from England. Do you think the framers who represented the colonies would turn around and come up with a document chaining them to an everlasting empire? Did you know there were movements in the NORTH to sec-cede from the south? Seccession was and is common knowledge. To accuse the South of treason would be hypocrisy, it is ludicris. Seccesion is american as apple pie. Part of the Sioux Nation did just that recently. There are secession movements in just about every state.
Rob, corporations run the U.S. government. Use google video and type in (Monopoly Men)a quick study on this issue. I've been studying globalism for a long time. Also look up this guy--(Major General Smedley Butler,USMC War is a racket)
Also being a Christian we are told that we are strangers in a strange land. Pilgrims passing through. I'm a U.S. citizen by birth. I will abide by its laws. But I don't have to stay. CSA did not fail-it was conquered.
I am black and I believe that the South felt it was being wronged by the North. I do Civil War living history and as a result I now truly understand that the Confederate Flag is not a symbol of hate.
It is a symbol of hate. The war was over slavery pure and simple. The south wanted to maintain slavery to sustain its economy and that is the very basis for that flag.
No Im right. I majored in history and got my masters in the American civil war with a PhD in history. My thesis was on the effects of medical advancements of the north on the war, it is available through Binghamton University.
Rebel pride
1488dSiegHiel 1 year ago 3
most of the people that wave the confederate colors don't even know the real meaning...it's just a way to show their racism legally...I'm a confederate by the way
emlvsmm 3 years ago
Wrong.
reptile202 2 years ago
Have you ever seen the kkk march? They ALWAYS have dozens of american flags-but nobody claims the american flag is racist. every once in a great while ONE klan member will have ONE confederate flag with him-why isn't the american flag called racist?
hiruleshouse 3 years ago 17
because people are scared of their government and wont say anything about the corrupt tyranny they are causing. Thomas Jefferson said, When the people fear their government their is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty
dixieflorida 3 years ago 8
hirules - its UnBelievable NO one has explain it yet. The kkk did use the confederate flag, But since the south LOST, the KKK uses the Real flag Just as an excuse, something to Hide behind. it doesnt make any Fukin Sense its like the Nazis "after getting their ass Kicked in ww2" marching down the street saying were Back! Waving the American Flag.
MetalHeart8787 2 years ago
its a shame the battle flag is used in relation to racism.. it is because of this that I support the 1st national flag of the confederacy when being proud of my heritage.. it is tattooed on my back and use it all the time... The Stars and bars as it is called isnt hated on by any groups so it is perfect .. in that you can be proud of your heritage.. use a historical flag.. and distance yourself from the ignorant and awful people like the kkk who misuse and tear down the flags image
texanpilot23 3 years ago 12
that was actually the naval jack. the battle flag is square shaped.
psychowr2 3 years ago 2
McCain has my vote, but it does concern me that he does not support the Confederate flag.
I fight for the flag of Dixie,
For Dixie is my land
I fight for the flag of Dixie, see,
For I am a Dixie Man!
In the process of recording the rest of the song! Send me a message, when it is completed, i will give you the link to my Myspace band profile.
TimsVideoChannel 3 years ago
he does support your symbol of treason my friend, he just doesn't want the public to know.
TekKnowledge1 3 years ago
you, my friend, are ignorant if you think the battle flag is a falg of treason. Fuck the yanks and fuck the union. and by the way, if anyone calls this flag racist, is a moron, because more Union generals owned slaves than confederate generals, and Robert E. Lee NEVER owned a slave.
TimsVideoChannel 3 years ago 7
Fuck the yanks and fuck the union.
thats not a statement of treason!
and yes, i'm aware that robert e. lee was in fact morally opposed to slavery and thought that it would fizzle out in due time..
TekKnowledge1 3 years ago
the folks in washington is the ones commitin treason and destroying liberty and the constitution.
there is no unity in a forced union!
803honda 3 years ago 6
how is it treason when the government has failed us and is corrupt and centralized isn't that treason against the people since this is supposed to be a government run by the people. This government no longer abides by the Constitution and I believe that is why we're in the condition we're in.
dixieflorida 3 years ago 3
@TekKnowledge1
And in fact, by the time The War of Northern Aggression was half over, half the slave owners had given up owning slaves because it was no longer economically feasible to own humans.
RosalitaBU8 1 year ago
McCain is a TRAITOR!!!
GOD BLESS DIXIE!!!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION!!!!
HeritageNotHateProd 3 years ago
McCain is a traitor for supporting open-borders, amnesty and for bashing his own Confederate heritage. He deserves the drubbing he's going to get in this upcoming election. The GOP sure nominated a LOSER!
RedShirtArmy 3 years ago
its our friends in northern Dixie
803honda 3 years ago
they will vote for him because he is white.there will be no obama.even if the people vote for his bullshit he will not be president.like what your tv te,lls you about the majority not being racist or not.most wont want a leader who doesnt represent themselves.a black will never be my Leader!honest to GOD!
america4americans 3 years ago
wow, they don't have to worry anyway. There is no way McCain is going to be president, he has no supporters. I have never met a McCain supporters ever. I have only met people who say they will probably vote for him because they are supporting the gop nominee.
erinmhughes 3 years ago
i have not met any supporter either but dont be surprised if he wins. if that day comes, the future of this country will be very gloomy. there will be more voter fraud this time around and they will make him win
jaceves84 3 years ago
when you got goerge bush support thats all ya need. knowwhaddamean? hint hint wink wink
803honda 3 years ago
You call Southerners hicks?! ummm, I'm pretty sure we have a lot more classy people. Now these folks look like there from the hills (lol) but I am proud of my Southern heritage and always will be! GOD BLESS SC!
ClemsonConfederate 3 years ago 2
Haha. Just a bunch of hicks that have no clue what they are doing and are living in the past.
burtonsnow23 4 years ago
lol
freakazoidodo 3 years ago
Lincoln on Secession:
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and to form one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may make their own of such territory as they inhabit.
nomadak47 4 years ago
continued--
More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority intermingling with or near them who oppose their movement.
nomadak47 4 years ago
Lincoln on Secession:
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and to form one that suits them better. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may make their own of such territory as they inhabit.
nomadak47 4 years ago
Thats true. 2 things. 1-since when do southern rights advocates quote Lincoln?
2-If the entire population decides a government is abusive it has the right to overthrow it. That doesn't mean that if a state or even city disagrees with the fed gov. they have the right to withdraw from the USA. Thats called a rebellion, and putting down a rebellion is not only constitional, but constitutionally mandated.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Lincoln was quoted to show secession as an american principal,common knowledge.
Civil unrest is coming. The hordes of illegal immigrants are allowed here for cheap labor. 9/11 happened because of this governments refusal to enforce law. It's all about money Rob. Iraq, immigration, Iran, an overseas empire for the monopoly men.
Look up "Christian Exodus" on your search engine. You don't have to agree with it, just showing you people are fed up.
nomadak47 4 years ago
i am still unsure as to if i want these Christian Exodus people moving to my state. we have had sooooo many invaders lately and everything is gettin all cityfied and theres wayy to many yanks and it just dont seem good. but i do agree with anything that keeps them borderjumpers from gettin my residential construction job. work is hard enough to get with this economy. we have just enacted local laws to punish their employers .
all you yanks and border jumpers stay away from carolina!!!
803honda 3 years ago
It is significant that no Confederate leader was ever brought to trial for treason. A trial would have brought a verdict on the constitutional legality of secession. Federal prosecutors were satisfied with the verdict that had been decided in battle.
nomadak47 4 years ago
I am their Flag
HK Edgerton--
Look this up on youtube.
nomadak47 4 years ago
This flag is the symbol of an insurrection against the United States of America, its Constitution and the founding fathers of our country that represents a lost and corrupt ideology of the people that flew the flag. It is not against the Constitution or law to own one but true Americans should know that if they do choose to worship this flag they are holding something that was against the United States. I true act of patriotism would be to denounce that flag and vow not to fly it
amercanfreedom2008 4 years ago
Absolutly right. If California created a new flag with the communist (sic/hammer)symbol instead of the star in the corner, I asure you the first people to say it's discracefull will be those in the south. The flag represents a government who made itself an enemy of the USA.
Robv6061 4 years ago
The North made the South its enemy.
nomadak47 4 years ago
This flag is a BATTLE FLAG. The Christian Cross of Saint Andrew.
nomadak47 4 years ago
That flag is a soldiers battle flag. The Christian Cross of Saint Andrew. No one is worshipping the flag. It is history, flying it honors those who fought and died.
No African saw that flag on a slave ship. But they did see many U.S. flags. Go figure.
The United States is no longer a government of the people. It is a corporate empire ran on their interest.
nomadak47 4 years ago
In the same way that the civil war was started and ran by rich slave plantation owners and fought by young people that had nothing to gain? Those rich "corporatists" or just the ones alive today?
Robv6061 4 years ago
Young people I appreciate your involvement. But I assure you that you will not giggle so much when you get older. Your laughter will turn into tears.
nomadak47 4 years ago
<<<< Proud Southerner
HERITAGE NOT HATE!
GOD BLESS THE SOUTH!
RON PAUL 08!
HeritageNotHateProd 4 years ago
I was there the day the flag was taken off our capital dome in SC. The flag is a symbal of HERITAGE.....NOT HATE ! Don't we all have to worry about our country and what direction it is taking with all the illegal immigrants we now have ? I work and pay taxes to help these illegals have free health care so they can multiply and have children with a US citizenship. What flag will be flying in the future ? What language will be spoken in the future ? May God bless the USA
SCLady1 4 years ago
As a republican it is hard to watch this. The confederate flag is a symbol of racism to some and heritage to others. The flag represents treason. Bottom line! Seperation from the USA. I hate seeing illegals protest with the Mexican flag-but the confederate flag is worse because they renounced all ties to the USA. TREASON NOT HERITAGE.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Not treason sir. You think these states would have joined the union knowing they would never be allowed to leave? Of course not. We see the same agression today by the U.S. around the world. I don't want to be a part of it. And would move to a southron state if one was to leave the union. Copperhead supporter for independence from an aggressive Corporate driven government.
nomadak47 4 years ago
SEE...Thats a form of treason. You would leave the USA to live in the south, if a state broke away? So you don't want to be an American because of "Corporations." You just proved my point. CSA is a seperatist government that failed.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Rob, again, do you think the states would have joined if they could never leave the union? Never being able to leave the union is tyranny. Common sense says, "I join FREELY and I can leave FREELY. There is no law stating "A State cannot leave the Union once you join." Leaving the USA is not treason sir. Being a U.S. citizen is voluntary.
nomadak47 4 years ago
If you were born in the USA you are a citizen. That isn't voluntary. Your statement about there is no law that says states can't leave....It's called the constitiution......We stoped being a confederacy when we won independence. The articles of confederation was a failure, just like a confederate form of government was a failure. If you consider yourself a southerner first and an American second then you are no better then the illegals that come here waving a mex flag.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Yes, being Born in the USA qualifies one to be a citizen. It does not mean the government owns you and you cannot ever leave. The constitution does not have any clause or law out-lawing secession. It's just not there.
nomadak47 4 years ago
It's called the supremacy clause. We aren't a union of loose states that can leave whenever we want. If thats the case then cities would be able to declare independance from the states.
Robv6061 4 years ago
The states would not have joined if knowing they could never leave. Your " supremacy clause " has nothing to do with it. Your supremacy clause is not law-- it doesn't exist. You're reaching on that statement.
nomadak47 4 years ago
It's not law? Mabey in the ol CSA where you live, but here in America it is constitutional and it is law.
Robv6061 4 years ago
What document would that be in? That secession is illegal.
nomadak47 4 years ago
Have you actually read the constitution? Have you ever read the federalist papers? The constitution doesn't say "states cannot leave the union" The constitution article 1&2. Read the entire thing and show me where it gives the states the right to leave whenever they see fit. Tell me of one document that is a part of our republic that allows the states to leave.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Read Article 1 Section 10....No state can enter into a union or confederacy....Read it yourself. Also that no State my raise a standing army without the consent of Congress. What if??? The fact is they knew that was in the constitution, and they signed on to it. Look at ARTICLE 1 SECTION 10 OF THE CONSTITUTION BEFORE RESPONDING.
Robv6061 4 years ago
Brother Rob, don't ya think the So-states knew of the article? Lawyers were all over the legal aspects of secession. They could not do anything in article 1- section 10 as long as they claimed to be a part of the U.S. That is why the southern states left the union separately. Once separate, then the formation took place. Again, no state would have joined the union if they knew leaving was not allowed. Does it get much simpler than that? Section 10 is applicable while being a part of the union.
nomadak47 4 years ago
Wrong. The Southern states signed on to it, lived by it, then when it became convienient they decided to abandon it. When you abandon the nations constitution you abandon that nation.....TREASON. The only reason none of the tratiors were prosecuted is to try to heal the nation and reunite it. Could you imagine what the country would have been like after the war then have to endure long drawn out trials? The Constitution is clear. No state may enter into any confederacy. Case closed.
Robv6061 4 years ago
The framers secceded from England. Do you think the framers who represented the colonies would turn around and come up with a document chaining them to an everlasting empire? Did you know there were movements in the NORTH to sec-cede from the south? Seccession was and is common knowledge. To accuse the South of treason would be hypocrisy, it is ludicris. Seccesion is american as apple pie. Part of the Sioux Nation did just that recently. There are secession movements in just about every state.
nomadak47 4 years ago
Rob, corporations run the U.S. government. Use google video and type in (Monopoly Men)a quick study on this issue. I've been studying globalism for a long time. Also look up this guy--(Major General Smedley Butler,USMC War is a racket)
Also being a Christian we are told that we are strangers in a strange land. Pilgrims passing through. I'm a U.S. citizen by birth. I will abide by its laws. But I don't have to stay. CSA did not fail-it was conquered.
nomadak47 4 years ago
freaking hillbilly rednecks with their confederate flag
rawdawg15 4 years ago
Type in "BLACK CONFEDERATES" and watch.
michaelshays 4 years ago
I am black and I believe that the South felt it was being wronged by the North. I do Civil War living history and as a result I now truly understand that the Confederate Flag is not a symbol of hate.
michaelshays 4 years ago
It is a symbol of hate. The war was over slavery pure and simple. The south wanted to maintain slavery to sustain its economy and that is the very basis for that flag.
jocylean 4 years ago
YOU ARE WRONG
michaelshays 4 years ago
No Im right. I majored in history and got my masters in the American civil war with a PhD in history. My thesis was on the effects of medical advancements of the north on the war, it is available through Binghamton University.
jocylean 4 years ago
Type in "BLACK CONFEDERATES" and watch.
michaelshays 4 years ago
What does that have to do with anything?
jocylean 4 years ago
Its the viedo that you will hate to watch. It shows that both blacks and whites fought for the south...
michaelshays 4 years ago
I know blacks fought for the south, your point?
jocylean 4 years ago