@raginlib it is a harm. the family name ends with them because gays r too igonorant to see that the plumbing of their relationship just doesn't work. They are sexist since they don't like to associate with the opposite sex, (talking at a beauty salon does not count), and it's a mental disorder too, so wishing gay on some1 is like wishing they will be pedophiles, necrophiliacs, or some other fetishist.
@catagon12345 and its people like you that make this world a horrible place. why would someone "choose" a life where idiots like yourself discriminate against them because they arent attracted to opposite sex like you are. have some damn respect. newflash... being gay is not a disease you can catch douche. my best friend is gay and he is a prosecuting attorney that puts pedophiles in jail ass. grow up, and do the world a favor and go fuck yourself.
@raginlib ppl like me make this world a horrible place? Get real, I don't see a world where a bunch of fudge packers can go public about their fetish as paradise. And who said you can catch "gay disease"? No one, so stop putting words in ppl's mouths, makes ur argument look weak. And as for the fucking urself, i'll let ur bf take care of that since i'm sure he's done it numerous times.
@catagon12345 actually my argument is great. all you do is poison the well and provide hasty generalizations for people to read. and for your information im straight... i just have respect for my fellow american people ass.
@raginlib FYI i never said u were gay. and ofc all pro gays r like north koreans, they just want to attack without listening to anybody or having any regard for other ppl.
Dumb who the fuck is that old man speaking for the US navy!! you fucking crazy!! you lining up criminals acts to ward gay people you fucking kidding me!! shame on you your not serving in the US navy!!
YouTube user Rilsailend: I personaly served with soldiers and sailors whom i knew were gay. They knew that I would never out them and I knew that whatever their preference was they were professionals, they were my brothers and sisters in uniform. All those who say that it causes problems have either never served, or never (knowingly) served with with anyone who was gay. This is just another excuse for right-wing bigots to feul their over inflated egos
what these guys will never admit, is that sexual conduct OF ANY KIND is forbidden of soldiers. They argue that letting gays in the military openly will result in...who knows, in their fantasies, bath houses and orgies.
News flash, there are ALREADY gays and lesbians in the military serving with distinction. And the military is FINE. And the barracks are not full of ass sex. So christian bigots need to get over their idiotic, phobic, (frequently closetted) selves.
"We think gays and lesbians are icky! Sexual tension, omfg."
Let me extend David Keene's list. "Folks who don't know very much about gays and lesbians are trying to legislate them out of society."
LOL at the retired bigot. Says right out that 'homosexiality' (can't even say the word) is wrong and bad. As bad as being a thief or a pusher. Kind of hard to deny a basic phobic bias in all their efforts, with that old turd at the lectern. These the guys signing the petition?
I love how when bigoted groups or stupid individuals upload to youtube they eventually need to turn the voting and comments off. You people are slowly being made into history!
I love how that Tom Minnery person tries to make it seem like repealing DADT prevents gay men from being emotionally harmed. However, somehow having gay men forced into the closet the military is LESS harmful for the gay soldiers. Also they make it sound like DADT keeps gay soldiers out of the military altogether, but it allows gay soldiers as long as they are closeted.
Lies to cover hopeless bigotry. People like this disgust me.
Most western military forces have been permitting homosexuals to serve openly since the early nineties. Of major military forces, the United States stands shoulder to shoulder with Russia and China in the opposition to gay men and women serving their country. Sexual misconduct in the Canadian Forces and the British army is prevented by the same element that prevents drug abuse and thievery. Professionalism. I myself received training from a man of such orientation.
If Admiral Lyons' study about what the navy "found" that disrupted the order of military life had been conducted back in the 1940's, would the answer have been "women"? The neat thing about people is how adaptable we are. In 1910 it was completely understood by society that it was inappropriate for women to vote. Now, 100 years later, we understand how wrong that is.
OMG, All those people in the video are fixing to head to the after life. Ha-ha, they are all old. <3 And a new generation will give way. A more acceptable one... And yes, there will still be a few haters out there, but they just make us famous. <33
Might I be so kind to point out to the more homophobic people on this page that woman are in the military, and they have to deal with those douche bag straight men, so the douche bag straight men could be a little threatened too.
if a straight man says i am going to call my wife he is ok .but if a gay man says i am going to call my husband he loses his job yet the law says all Americans well be treated equally under the law
Isn't it interesting how all the sad little people in this video are evolution-denying, young earth creationist cranks? These people are scared of social accepttance of gay people, just like they are scared of the truth about Evolution - if it is discovered that gay people are actually just like everyone else and not harmful, their religious worldview collapses. Once DADT is gone, the next stage is to deprogram these people of the virus of religion. They are the danger, not gay people.
This proves you're not in the military because they would have court-martialed your sorry ass for making threats against U.S. soldiers. So you're a wannabe; prolly failed the test to get in and you can't stand the idea that gays are serving while you can't. We don't know what you're planning? Let me guess, getting drunk and shooting at rats in your backyard and slapping your girlfriend around before giving her the ole 28 second long beef injection?
lol, white alpha male. what an ass clown. i'd shove my boot so far up your gaping pussy you would taste the steel toe through the leather. back down, boy.
Maybe gays should just stand back and let the military be comprised entirely of straight Christofascists. Why should we risk our lives for a nation that doesn't want us in the military, and won't even give us basic human rights of any sort? Let the heterosexual Christianists get mutilated and die overseas. Why should we care?
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It's funny that the liberals never bothered to ask those of us in the military what we want. Assholes. We hate liberals and guess what? We hate fags. We don't want to share a fucking bunk with one.
Let's try a social experiment on the military, let's put fags in with an organization filled with, alpha males, skinheads, White Nationalists, and bible thumpers.
Yeah, smart thinking libs. Don't worry, we'll repay the favor on a daily basis.
I hate to break it to you, but you are already showering, and sleeping with gay men. The issue here is whether or not you can force someone to stay in the closet and make them lose their job if they don't. The majority of the military doesn't give a shit if gays are in there.
The majority huh? Just what the fuck do you know about the military?
You don't mind sleeping with fags? You like to take showers with them?
Hey I know, while we live i the shitty barracks, let's give fags money to live off base. Maybe a nice apartment on the beach.
I hope you know that we will spend every day of my remaining years making fags miserable. Not only because they're not welcomed here in our little world, but because of the trouble liberals give us.
I know that organizations do opinion polls on active duty service members, and those polls indicate that over 65% of the military doesn't care if gays are open. Maybe that's because they are smart and know that gays are already in the military. I hope you know that all of these threatening remarks can be traced. You aren't invisible you fucking idiot.
That was a poll on the public, not the military. There hasn't been a poll given to us on the subject since 2002.
Trace me all you want. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Accidents happen all the time. It would break my heart if something like that happened to a gay.
We play games that you can't even imagine. You have NO idea what you're talking about and what we're capable of. None.
Maybe you should enlist and save them. You sound like you're a regular alpha male.
Actually I'm not talking about the poll that was done for everyone else. I'm talking about military polls. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. You're obviously an idiot. There is a reason why so many people on the Left and the Right are in favor of repealing DADT. It doesn't make any sense to force people to live in the closet.
There hasn't been such a poll since 2002. Unless you have a citation. Please share.
Secondly, what about our rights not to force us live with openly gay people? Do our beliefs and wishes not matter to you anymore? I guess simple people living in the military are less important than your social experiment, right?
It's ok dude. We're going to show you how we conduct polls, boot to face style.
You're so dumb and it really shows. You can't make your argument so you automatically resort to violence? You don't have the right to discriminate against other people. What about the gay person's rights? They are human beings too. So no, your beliefs don't matter when it comes to human rights. Stop watching Fox "news" and get a brain.
I don't even watch tv you clownshoe. Did you copy & paste that line?
Of course what we want doesn't matter. Why else would we hate you liberals?
Worried about violence? Putting fags in with alpha males, skinheads, White Nationalist, and bible thumpers wasn't a clue that this might not be a good idea?
What kind of people do you think we are? We kick asses. Why is this a shock to you? What else could you have possibly thought would happen?
You're thinking like a liberal. We're far from it.
"Do our beliefs and wishes not matter to you anymore?"
Well, actually, in terms of being in the military, they don't matter.
You can have a myriad of differences between you and your fellow soldiers, but that doesn't change the fact you all VOLUNTEERED to serve your country and take orders that you may not personally agree with.
And we have rules such as DADT. Fags don't have to VOLUNTEER either. Just like felons, drug addicts, AIDS/HIV, High school dropouts, and the Handicapped can't join the military.
There is no "right" granted to anyone to serve in the military.
We are all planning to take action. I don't think you liberals understand what that even means.
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags You're welcome to feel however much displaced anger you want, FREE country right? I want you to know though, you're the minority now, sweetness. Take a minute to digest that... you're absolutely powerless against the change happening right now in America and all over the world. Fags are everywhere! Always have been. And now we're coming for our rights. That animalistic aggression you spew is just helping us. It shows your opinions and you aren't worth the air in your lungs
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags That's quite an elaborate and sick little fantasy you have there. It's fun for you to pretend you might be able to inflict harm (probably the only way you've ever been able to affect or interact with people) on innocent people just trying to live their lives as equals. When you say "in here" I can only assume your implying prison... exactly where sub-human animals like you should be, a cage. You're not achieving your goal of making me mad, you're only helping me pity you.
@gloomilyeuphoric Yet, you're trying your best to be among people like me. Seems like you know what you're talking about. All we can do is say no when they ask. They asked. We said no. They told Congress. If you're not going to respect that, we warned you. You have no idea what we can do to you in here legally and make your life as miserable as possible. Whatever, you can't even understand what I'm saying. You don't even understand the concept of "in here".
"You don't even understand the concept of "in here" No, you're right, I don't... see, I live a little closer to sanity than where ever the fuck "in here" is. How about just saying what you're trying to say rather than that cute little code phrase, like it's something too fantastic and magical to refer to by name. You're last reply shows how little of a grip on reality you have, so thanks, it's been fun, but you can just go right back to your pretend Nazi fantasy time.
@gloomilyeuphoric Maybe you should just ask around inre what I'm talking about instead of making smartassed remarks.
Anyways, you have till next January to pass something. There's nothing cute that you can say that can change that. It's ok, they were just using you faggots for votes anyways, lol. You "victim status minorities" will never learn.
What a thick, stupid baby you are. Indeed there is no right bestowed on anyone to serve. No right for neo-nazi, christofascist wannabe thugs like you. There is no way are you can be in the military.
Anyway, we know from dozens of testimonies, not just Dan Choi's, that gay soldiers are serving, and have served openly, and done their job well. And they have the support of the others in their platoon.
On another note - just to see if you accept evidence and reason - Do you accept that dinosaurs and human beings lived at least 65 million years apart, and that life has evolved from single celled organisms, that existed about 4 billion years ago?
Well, that's a good start: so you agree, it's proper to base beliefs and opinions on the evidence, and to ask 'how do I know this is true?,' instead of believing just what you want to be true?
If you can honestly provide real evidence of gay people attacking straights in bunks and showers, or a real reason to fear this might happen, then I'll accept I am wrong. So, let's hear it....
I'll ask again. What evidence do you have that gay people are a threat to you in the showers and in the bunk? If you need to 'attack fags', then they must be a threat, unless you are a psycopath, or mentally ill. And we really don't want people like that defending our interests in the middle east, thanks.
If you can provide no evidence then you have no reason for anything you have said on here. The fact you 'hate fags' for no reason is not relevant.
Sounds to me like you're lacking in the American spirit. You're talking about shooting your brother's in arms for no logical reason.
Homosexuality is just a normal sexual orientation, and according to our top medical associations such as: the American Psychological Association and the American Association of Pediatrics there is nothing wrong with someone being gay.
It sounds like you're not an alpha-male, you lack the intelligence to be one. If anything you're a just a meathead.
What century do these people live in? Do they honestly think there are no gay people currently in the military? What a bitter, closed-minded little world they live in.
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i don't know why them homos just can't be happy staying home in their tutus and listening to judy garland records. why ain't they satisfied having sex with other homos instead of trying to have butt sex with our war fighter IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIRE FIGHT? it ain't right
wow I didnt realise that people could be this old fashioned and closed minded. They talk as if homsexual people were a problem and some form of disease. Their lack of understanding leads to fear and that old fart at the end, "the navy cleaned its act up, and fortunatly they did" what exactly does he mean by cleaned? does he mean bullied, taunted or even killed? I hope you rot in hell.
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause Yahweh gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Leviticus 19:19 "Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
Do cotton/polyester blends threaten unit cohesion in the military? At a time when we're fighting two wars, can we afford to continue this experiment in sartorial engineering?
Classic The only western army in the world is catching up very slowly with the rest of their allies, and these guys thinks it's some kind of untouched taboo sure to bring disaster!
The only disaster ending DADT will bring, is the sunlight it will shine on the lies, paranoia fear-mongering and plainly Taliban-like nonsense of these christo-fascists.
These right wing tantrum-fests really do show the right wing for what it is: a backward group of childish bigots.
Israel, Britain, but NOT the U.S army. Not because of what the young men and women in the armed forces can handle - but due to the bigotry and religious intolerance of people not even serving.
These people would be welcomed with open arms by the Taliban.
There are currently over 66 thousand gays and lesbians in the military right now, proudly serving our country. The only problem is that they have to hide their sexuality. There has always been gays in the military and there always will be. The comments from these assholes are ridiculous and the same rubbish that was spewed when blacks and women wanted to serve in the military. Plus these are stating lies and mistruths.
Here is a question for you. What about the all the gay people in the military right now.
You have this planed out very well. People in the Military are scared to tell because you will kick them out and because of this you think the military is free of gay people and this a radical "social" experiment. Yeah we got to use the word "socialism" to scare the people out there who do not understand that the military has A lot of gay people.
I think someone should put this on a DVD and tuck it into a time capsule, we'll title it the 'Idiot Epidemic of 2010.' Nobody was spared from these people, not even the children. o_o
Funny how gay people who are already in the military is a bigger issue to them than the rape that goes on already between superiors and women. They don't seem to give a shit about that form of "sexual tension"
wow, just wow, who are they to tell the rest of the world what to do. they are from some of the same groups such as focus on the family who are going over to Uganda and telling the government there to commit genocide against the gay population. these people are no better then the lowest forms of life on this earth. don't believe anything they say because they are pushing an antisemitic agenda.
they are butchers with blood on their hands. and lie to make money, nothing more.
Don't ask Don't tell was implemented by a liberal president you would think they would want it to go away. But that just shows how the conservatives are going backwards. And they will go against anything Obama says. Seriously how is this any different from not allowing black people or women serve?
David Keen: "Folks who don't know very much about the way the military operates or what is good or bad for it are telling us how it ought to be run." Indeed! He must be referring to ignorant "folks" like JCOS chairman Adm. Mike Mullen, ex JCOS chairman Gen. Colin Powell, and Sec. of Defense Robert Gates.
Wow! Tom Minnery of FOF emoting for the welfare of young gay men who might be "bruised, angry, and severely disappointed". Who knew? (Has he no concern for bruised lesbians, or does he assume they can already handle themselves in a warrior culture? )
I have a hard time with the idea that only those who served in the military can have an opinion on how its run. People can become experts on many things, without actually experiencing it. Now, being in the military DOES give you additional, useful expertise that should be valued. That said, Tony Perkins and the rest of these losers need to stop making up "facts" that support their bigoted ideas and ridiculous forecasts that the military will fall apart if "teh gays" are allowed in.
Have any of these deluded speakers made the effort to see the real effect of this "social engineering" where it has been applied, eg in any number of Western militaries, with no ill-effects whatever
With the exception of Admiral Lyons, none of these yahoos have ever served in the military. So, their opinion, much like that of the fry person at McDonalds means nothing. They are only experts at hate, not military affairs.
How anyone can be this closed off to the world in 2010 is beyond me. These people in the video don't know anything except stereotypes. If I were a conservative, I'd be heading over to the Liberal side just so I wouldn't be associated with these people.
David Keene is a law school graduate who once served as special assistant to Spiro Agnew. His biography says nothing about serving in the military. Do these people hear themselves talk?
I would only say to Tony Perkins that I'm not sure that the 52% of people in California who voted in favor of Prop H8 really understand the conditions in which gay Americans in loving, committed relationships have to live. And I'd love to know what year it was when the Navy "found" that it couldn't have thieves, druggies, and homosexuals aboard its ships... sounds like the '40s.
WTF is wrong with Penny Nance's weave? She looks like she just got done fighting in Thunderdome. The thought of being on a ship with homosexuality running" rampant", makes me want to enlist. God Bless America.
Okay these guys are morons. Repealing DADT is not going to cause gay people to start screwing when they're supposed to be battle-ready. It's just going to let the gay people that are ALREADY in the military be HONEST without fear of being FIRED in spite of serving honorable careers. I doubt on-duty sexual activity between hetero members of the military is allowed either, and this is an altogether desperate issue. And the fear of "unit cohesion" is easily resolved by getting rid of homophobes.
I get the feeling most don't understand that gays are already allowed to serve, and already are doing so. Getting rid of "Don't ask; don't tell" would simply mean they could be honest to their fellow soldiers if they were asked and not fear discharge for that honesty.
LOL, I have no idea what's funnier. I guess I'd give the prize to the guy saying that people who don't know economics saying how economy should be run - 'cause we all know it wasn't the "economic experts" who caused the recent crash...
"We have people who don't know about Human Rights trying to tell us we don't have them." - Fixed it for you.
YveMars 1 year ago
i hope all of them have gay children.
raginlib 1 year ago 2
@raginlib what kind of ass hole would wish harm on ppl u sick freak
catagon12345 1 year ago
@catagon12345 oh yes because being gay is such a harm... welcome to 2010, we shouldnt be ignorant.
raginlib 1 year ago
@raginlib it is a harm. the family name ends with them because gays r too igonorant to see that the plumbing of their relationship just doesn't work. They are sexist since they don't like to associate with the opposite sex, (talking at a beauty salon does not count), and it's a mental disorder too, so wishing gay on some1 is like wishing they will be pedophiles, necrophiliacs, or some other fetishist.
catagon12345 1 year ago
@catagon12345 and its people like you that make this world a horrible place. why would someone "choose" a life where idiots like yourself discriminate against them because they arent attracted to opposite sex like you are. have some damn respect. newflash... being gay is not a disease you can catch douche. my best friend is gay and he is a prosecuting attorney that puts pedophiles in jail ass. grow up, and do the world a favor and go fuck yourself.
raginlib 1 year ago
@raginlib ppl like me make this world a horrible place? Get real, I don't see a world where a bunch of fudge packers can go public about their fetish as paradise. And who said you can catch "gay disease"? No one, so stop putting words in ppl's mouths, makes ur argument look weak. And as for the fucking urself, i'll let ur bf take care of that since i'm sure he's done it numerous times.
catagon12345 1 year ago
@catagon12345 actually my argument is great. all you do is poison the well and provide hasty generalizations for people to read. and for your information im straight... i just have respect for my fellow american people ass.
raginlib 1 year ago
@raginlib FYI i never said u were gay. and ofc all pro gays r like north koreans, they just want to attack without listening to anybody or having any regard for other ppl.
catagon12345 1 year ago
Dumb who the fuck is that old man speaking for the US navy!! you fucking crazy!! you lining up criminals acts to ward gay people you fucking kidding me!! shame on you your not serving in the US navy!!
25maruja 1 year ago 2
This is fuck up!! you dont know what ismilitary you fucking dumb people!!
We are serving this country ans this what they will present to US!
25maruja 1 year ago
YouTube user Rilsailend: I personaly served with soldiers and sailors whom i knew were gay. They knew that I would never out them and I knew that whatever their preference was they were professionals, they were my brothers and sisters in uniform. All those who say that it causes problems have either never served, or never (knowingly) served with with anyone who was gay. This is just another excuse for right-wing bigots to feul their over inflated egos
Magnumanxxl 1 year ago 5
what these guys will never admit, is that sexual conduct OF ANY KIND is forbidden of soldiers. They argue that letting gays in the military openly will result in...who knows, in their fantasies, bath houses and orgies.
News flash, there are ALREADY gays and lesbians in the military serving with distinction. And the military is FINE. And the barracks are not full of ass sex. So christian bigots need to get over their idiotic, phobic, (frequently closetted) selves.
GretchenDawntreader 1 year ago
"We think gays and lesbians are icky! Sexual tension, omfg."
Let me extend David Keene's list. "Folks who don't know very much about gays and lesbians are trying to legislate them out of society."
LOL at the retired bigot. Says right out that 'homosexiality' (can't even say the word) is wrong and bad. As bad as being a thief or a pusher. Kind of hard to deny a basic phobic bias in all their efforts, with that old turd at the lectern. These the guys signing the petition?
GretchenDawntreader 1 year ago
Right, I'm glad I'm not a part of that hateful organization. Please let someone else die for my freedom!
ryandward 1 year ago
some people. i'm so flustered how people can be so idiotic that i can't even put it into words.
b28e 1 year ago
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b28e 1 year ago
I love how when bigoted groups or stupid individuals upload to youtube they eventually need to turn the voting and comments off. You people are slowly being made into history!
InnerSmile72 1 year ago
I love how that Tom Minnery person tries to make it seem like repealing DADT prevents gay men from being emotionally harmed. However, somehow having gay men forced into the closet the military is LESS harmful for the gay soldiers. Also they make it sound like DADT keeps gay soldiers out of the military altogether, but it allows gay soldiers as long as they are closeted.
Lies to cover hopeless bigotry. People like this disgust me.
pauldcco 1 year ago
I thought we found out that we could not have discrimination in our country??
1003Patrick 1 year ago
Most western military forces have been permitting homosexuals to serve openly since the early nineties. Of major military forces, the United States stands shoulder to shoulder with Russia and China in the opposition to gay men and women serving their country. Sexual misconduct in the Canadian Forces and the British army is prevented by the same element that prevents drug abuse and thievery. Professionalism. I myself received training from a man of such orientation.
theneworigional 1 year ago
people act like homosexuality is a disease and is easily transmitted. what a joke. The us military should be more like the uk.
xxChloeK 1 year ago
If Admiral Lyons' study about what the navy "found" that disrupted the order of military life had been conducted back in the 1940's, would the answer have been "women"? The neat thing about people is how adaptable we are. In 1910 it was completely understood by society that it was inappropriate for women to vote. Now, 100 years later, we understand how wrong that is.
RedLacyTwo 1 year ago 3
OMG, All those people in the video are fixing to head to the after life. Ha-ha, they are all old. <3 And a new generation will give way. A more acceptable one... And yes, there will still be a few haters out there, but they just make us famous. <33
Crim3Stopp3rs 1 year ago 3
Might I be so kind to point out to the more homophobic people on this page that woman are in the military, and they have to deal with those douche bag straight men, so the douche bag straight men could be a little threatened too.
Colts4859 1 year ago 2
Dinosaurs do roam with man.
MrBobbarnes 1 year ago
WOW i thought this kind of attitude was dead..... SAD
JoeyBoya 1 year ago 14
What a bunch of liars. Perkins is trying to sound as if he's concerned for gay people. If he really was he would be in FRC.
Then Nance makes no sense. How is abolishing DADT being soft on terror? Also she pretty much said that following the constitution is as well.
Sango1115 1 year ago
*wouldn't.
Just to clear up any confusion by my typo.
Sango1115 1 year ago
if a straight man says i am going to call my wife he is ok .but if a gay man says i am going to call my husband he loses his job yet the law says all Americans well be treated equally under the law
gothicsoul100 1 year ago 4
Isn't it interesting how all the sad little people in this video are evolution-denying, young earth creationist cranks? These people are scared of social accepttance of gay people, just like they are scared of the truth about Evolution - if it is discovered that gay people are actually just like everyone else and not harmful, their religious worldview collapses. Once DADT is gone, the next stage is to deprogram these people of the virus of religion. They are the danger, not gay people.
amsterdammed71 1 year ago
nothing but irrational fear of gays.
MrBobbarnes 1 year ago 2
all i heard was :"blah blah blah blaaaah"
happiesthought 1 year ago 2
HAHAHA. The Navy just has such cute uniforms. i mean if im gonna die for my country im gonna do it in bell bottoms.
Gpatick90 1 year ago
@libs wrote "Friendly fire is a bitch."
This proves you're not in the military because they would have court-martialed your sorry ass for making threats against U.S. soldiers. So you're a wannabe; prolly failed the test to get in and you can't stand the idea that gays are serving while you can't. We don't know what you're planning? Let me guess, getting drunk and shooting at rats in your backyard and slapping your girlfriend around before giving her the ole 28 second long beef injection?
BrendadIckson 1 year ago
@libsmakegr8
lol, white alpha male. what an ass clown. i'd shove my boot so far up your gaping pussy you would taste the steel toe through the leather. back down, boy.
steveg2115 1 year ago
ALibs; "It's not going to stop us from beating the shit out of fags on a daily basis."
Yeah, because threatening to gang up on an outnumbered opponent makes you seem soooooo masculine. Just like wife-beating!
PS they miss you down at the party behind the mess hall, better hurry before the butt crack vodka is gone:
It's not going to stop us from beating the shit out of fags on a daily basis.
BrendadIckson 1 year ago
Maybe gays should just stand back and let the military be comprised entirely of straight Christofascists. Why should we risk our lives for a nation that doesn't want us in the military, and won't even give us basic human rights of any sort? Let the heterosexual Christianists get mutilated and die overseas. Why should we care?
BetterABleedingHeart 1 year ago 3
Where is this "right" you speak of? I don't see in the Constitution that you have a "right" to serve in the military.
You're not welcomed here and we WILL remind you everyday until you leave.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
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It's funny that the liberals never bothered to ask those of us in the military what we want. Assholes. We hate liberals and guess what? We hate fags. We don't want to share a fucking bunk with one.
Let's try a social experiment on the military, let's put fags in with an organization filled with, alpha males, skinheads, White Nationalists, and bible thumpers.
Yeah, smart thinking libs. Don't worry, we'll repay the favor on a daily basis.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
gays are already allowed to serve, just not openly.
babablacksheep125 1 year ago
For a good reason too.
Let me guess. You have never showered with a gay. Never slept next to a gay. Never slept in the room with two dudes grunting and moaning all night.
Why do you expect us to?
Will you be shocked when we take matters into our own hands?
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
I hate to break it to you, but you are already showering, and sleeping with gay men. The issue here is whether or not you can force someone to stay in the closet and make them lose their job if they don't. The majority of the military doesn't give a shit if gays are in there.
redbull816 1 year ago 2
The majority huh? Just what the fuck do you know about the military?
You don't mind sleeping with fags? You like to take showers with them?
Hey I know, while we live i the shitty barracks, let's give fags money to live off base. Maybe a nice apartment on the beach.
I hope you know that we will spend every day of my remaining years making fags miserable. Not only because they're not welcomed here in our little world, but because of the trouble liberals give us.
Friendly fire is a bitch.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
I know that organizations do opinion polls on active duty service members, and those polls indicate that over 65% of the military doesn't care if gays are open. Maybe that's because they are smart and know that gays are already in the military. I hope you know that all of these threatening remarks can be traced. You aren't invisible you fucking idiot.
redbull816 1 year ago 2
That was a poll on the public, not the military. There hasn't been a poll given to us on the subject since 2002.
Trace me all you want. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Accidents happen all the time. It would break my heart if something like that happened to a gay.
We play games that you can't even imagine. You have NO idea what you're talking about and what we're capable of. None.
Maybe you should enlist and save them. You sound like you're a regular alpha male.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
Actually I'm not talking about the poll that was done for everyone else. I'm talking about military polls. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. You're obviously an idiot. There is a reason why so many people on the Left and the Right are in favor of repealing DADT. It doesn't make any sense to force people to live in the closet.
redbull816 1 year ago 2
There hasn't been such a poll since 2002. Unless you have a citation. Please share.
Secondly, what about our rights not to force us live with openly gay people? Do our beliefs and wishes not matter to you anymore? I guess simple people living in the military are less important than your social experiment, right?
It's ok dude. We're going to show you how we conduct polls, boot to face style.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
You're so dumb and it really shows. You can't make your argument so you automatically resort to violence? You don't have the right to discriminate against other people. What about the gay person's rights? They are human beings too. So no, your beliefs don't matter when it comes to human rights. Stop watching Fox "news" and get a brain.
redbull816 1 year ago 2
I don't even watch tv you clownshoe. Did you copy & paste that line?
Of course what we want doesn't matter. Why else would we hate you liberals?
Worried about violence? Putting fags in with alpha males, skinheads, White Nationalist, and bible thumpers wasn't a clue that this might not be a good idea?
What kind of people do you think we are? We kick asses. Why is this a shock to you? What else could you have possibly thought would happen?
You're thinking like a liberal. We're far from it.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
"Do our beliefs and wishes not matter to you anymore?"
Well, actually, in terms of being in the military, they don't matter.
You can have a myriad of differences between you and your fellow soldiers, but that doesn't change the fact you all VOLUNTEERED to serve your country and take orders that you may not personally agree with.
bearchewtoy75 1 year ago 2
So easy for those of you to speak on our behalf.
And we have rules such as DADT. Fags don't have to VOLUNTEER either. Just like felons, drug addicts, AIDS/HIV, High school dropouts, and the Handicapped can't join the military.
There is no "right" granted to anyone to serve in the military.
We are all planning to take action. I don't think you liberals understand what that even means.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags
yeah we do; it means you are heading down to the nearest gas station rest room to troll for some d!ck you sorry closet case
BrendadIckson 1 year ago
Yeah, sit there make jokes.
It's not going to stop us from beating the shit out of fags on a daily basis.
ha ha
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags
You are a fucking moron.
USSRandy 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags You're welcome to feel however much displaced anger you want, FREE country right? I want you to know though, you're the minority now, sweetness. Take a minute to digest that... you're absolutely powerless against the change happening right now in America and all over the world. Fags are everywhere! Always have been. And now we're coming for our rights. That animalistic aggression you spew is just helping us. It shows your opinions and you aren't worth the air in your lungs
gloomilyeuphoric 1 year ago
@gloomilyeuphoric It's ok, we'll cope by beating the fuck out of you on a daily basis. We have no problem placing our boot on your neck.
None of us care what you faggots think on the outside. In here, it's our world and we're the majority. Our rules.
Your smartassed comments only make us want to punish you even more. And soon, we will.
I know what it will be like for you when the dollar crashes and lawlessness ensues. Nobody here has a problem gutting you like fish on that day.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags That's quite an elaborate and sick little fantasy you have there. It's fun for you to pretend you might be able to inflict harm (probably the only way you've ever been able to affect or interact with people) on innocent people just trying to live their lives as equals. When you say "in here" I can only assume your implying prison... exactly where sub-human animals like you should be, a cage. You're not achieving your goal of making me mad, you're only helping me pity you.
gloomilyeuphoric 1 year ago
@gloomilyeuphoric Yet, you're trying your best to be among people like me. Seems like you know what you're talking about. All we can do is say no when they ask. They asked. We said no. They told Congress. If you're not going to respect that, we warned you. You have no idea what we can do to you in here legally and make your life as miserable as possible. Whatever, you can't even understand what I'm saying. You don't even understand the concept of "in here".
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags
"You don't even understand the concept of "in here" No, you're right, I don't... see, I live a little closer to sanity than where ever the fuck "in here" is. How about just saying what you're trying to say rather than that cute little code phrase, like it's something too fantastic and magical to refer to by name. You're last reply shows how little of a grip on reality you have, so thanks, it's been fun, but you can just go right back to your pretend Nazi fantasy time.
gloomilyeuphoric 1 year ago
@gloomilyeuphoric Maybe you should just ask around inre what I'm talking about instead of making smartassed remarks.
Anyways, you have till next January to pass something. There's nothing cute that you can say that can change that. It's ok, they were just using you faggots for votes anyways, lol. You "victim status minorities" will never learn.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags Update 9/21/2010. I win.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
What a thick, stupid baby you are. Indeed there is no right bestowed on anyone to serve. No right for neo-nazi, christofascist wannabe thugs like you. There is no way are you can be in the military.
Anyway, we know from dozens of testimonies, not just Dan Choi's, that gay soldiers are serving, and have served openly, and done their job well. And they have the support of the others in their platoon.
amsterdammed71 1 year ago
Wow, dozens.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
On another note - just to see if you accept evidence and reason - Do you accept that dinosaurs and human beings lived at least 65 million years apart, and that life has evolved from single celled organisms, that existed about 4 billion years ago?
amsterdammed71 1 year ago
I don't believe in imaginary, fictional cloud wizards if that's what you are asking.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
Well, that's a good start: so you agree, it's proper to base beliefs and opinions on the evidence, and to ask 'how do I know this is true?,' instead of believing just what you want to be true?
If you can honestly provide real evidence of gay people attacking straights in bunks and showers, or a real reason to fear this might happen, then I'll accept I am wrong. So, let's hear it....
amsterdammed71 1 year ago
We don't fear being attacked you dumbass.
You are totally missing the point.
Don't worry about it, you do what you have to do and we'll do what we have to do.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
I'll ask again. What evidence do you have that gay people are a threat to you in the showers and in the bunk? If you need to 'attack fags', then they must be a threat, unless you are a psycopath, or mentally ill. And we really don't want people like that defending our interests in the middle east, thanks.
If you can provide no evidence then you have no reason for anything you have said on here. The fact you 'hate fags' for no reason is not relevant.
amsterdammed71 1 year ago 4
Welcome to my world.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
No, thanks.
amsterdammed71 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags What do you fear?
Colts4859 1 year ago
@Libs
Sounds to me like you're lacking in the American spirit. You're talking about shooting your brother's in arms for no logical reason.
Homosexuality is just a normal sexual orientation, and according to our top medical associations such as: the American Psychological Association and the American Association of Pediatrics there is nothing wrong with someone being gay.
It sounds like you're not an alpha-male, you lack the intelligence to be one. If anything you're a just a meathead.
yaoifanboy90 1 year ago 2
I think all gays in the military should be allowed to tell everyone their gay. And then paint a bulls eye to both sides of their uniforms ! lol
hobo59 1 year ago
im with the gays on this 1 lol these assholes are crazy. stay strong brothers ( im not gay) looololollollloololololollo nothing but love
filthyfew77 1 year ago 3
What century do these people live in? Do they honestly think there are no gay people currently in the military? What a bitter, closed-minded little world they live in.
dznygrl 1 year ago 5
The enemy wont be able to aim their weapons if they are rolling on the ground laughing.
OBAMASTINIAN 1 year ago
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i don't know why them homos just can't be happy staying home in their tutus and listening to judy garland records. why ain't they satisfied having sex with other homos instead of trying to have butt sex with our war fighter IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIRE FIGHT? it ain't right
BillyBobNeck 1 year ago
lol!
Billy Bob, you're great. I didn't know you were on youtube, too.
bradypassant 1 year ago
Yup. I been on the YouTube for a lil while now
BillyBobNeck 1 year ago
wow I didnt realise that people could be this old fashioned and closed minded. They talk as if homsexual people were a problem and some form of disease. Their lack of understanding leads to fear and that old fart at the end, "the navy cleaned its act up, and fortunatly they did" what exactly does he mean by cleaned? does he mean bullied, taunted or even killed? I hope you rot in hell.
166beads 1 year ago
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.
Romans 1: 26 For this cause Yahweh gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
derekdb2 1 year ago
Leviticus 19:19 "Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."
Do cotton/polyester blends threaten unit cohesion in the military? At a time when we're fighting two wars, can we afford to continue this experiment in sartorial engineering?
mobedro 1 year ago 4
you can stick to living in the past and listen to a 2000 year old lost in translation book, and I will live for the present and future.
166beads 1 year ago 3
what's "homosecsheeality"?
cherrydog9 1 year ago 3
'Social engineering mister bigot?
Classic The only western army in the world is catching up very slowly with the rest of their allies, and these guys thinks it's some kind of untouched taboo sure to bring disaster!
The only disaster ending DADT will bring, is the sunlight it will shine on the lies, paranoia fear-mongering and plainly Taliban-like nonsense of these christo-fascists.
These right wing tantrum-fests really do show the right wing for what it is: a backward group of childish bigots.
cinesimonj 1 year ago
Israel, Britain, but NOT the U.S army. Not because of what the young men and women in the armed forces can handle - but due to the bigotry and religious intolerance of people not even serving.
These people would be welcomed with open arms by the Taliban.
cinesimonj 1 year ago 2
Their symbol is not the question mark because they ask questions, but because they are utterly clueless about this world.
Colts4859 1 year ago 4
How did Janice Dickinson get in there?
jreents 1 year ago
Hate gays/poor people/old people/women/non-whites? Welcome to the Republican party!
redbull816 1 year ago 4
Adding blacks and women to the military disrupted the unit. The unit got over it. Grow a brain bigots.
carlasue88 1 year ago 8
Watch the whole thing and laugh at these poor uneducated people and then enjoy it at 2:56
PaulLeary 1 year ago 2
How sweet of these people to want to protect young gay men from the evil gay rights movement! :-P
These Focus on the Family losers really need to get a life!
jr94553 1 year ago 5
There are currently over 66 thousand gays and lesbians in the military right now, proudly serving our country. The only problem is that they have to hide their sexuality. There has always been gays in the military and there always will be. The comments from these assholes are ridiculous and the same rubbish that was spewed when blacks and women wanted to serve in the military. Plus these are stating lies and mistruths.
u4icmusic 1 year ago 5
Where dig you dig up that old Queen, Ace lyons, She should know about all the gays in the Navy.
It is okay, Ace, the mothers of america are not gonna come after you like they did in 1910.
grindme 1 year ago 3
A rainbow pentagon. How cute is that.
Here is a question for you. What about the all the gay people in the military right now.
You have this planed out very well. People in the Military are scared to tell because you will kick them out and because of this you think the military is free of gay people and this a radical "social" experiment. Yeah we got to use the word "socialism" to scare the people out there who do not understand that the military has A lot of gay people.
grindme 1 year ago 4
Somebody needs to tell these old fools that it is now 2012. Get over it already.
ocmozfan 1 year ago
"No son of mine is going to join the Navy"
"But, Ma"
"Don't you "but ma" me. Do you know what the do to young boys like you??"
"Yeah, Uncle Charlie, told me all about it. I think it is swell"
grindme 1 year ago 2
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grindme 1 year ago
I think someone should put this on a DVD and tuck it into a time capsule, we'll title it the 'Idiot Epidemic of 2010.' Nobody was spared from these people, not even the children. o_o
RaptorClaws24 1 year ago 5
Funny how gay people who are already in the military is a bigger issue to them than the rape that goes on already between superiors and women. They don't seem to give a shit about that form of "sexual tension"
crtnyevans 1 year ago 19
wow, just wow, who are they to tell the rest of the world what to do. they are from some of the same groups such as focus on the family who are going over to Uganda and telling the government there to commit genocide against the gay population. these people are no better then the lowest forms of life on this earth. don't believe anything they say because they are pushing an antisemitic agenda.
they are butchers with blood on their hands. and lie to make money, nothing more.
pentica 1 year ago 2
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pentica 1 year ago
Don't ask Don't tell was implemented by a liberal president you would think they would want it to go away. But that just shows how the conservatives are going backwards. And they will go against anything Obama says. Seriously how is this any different from not allowing black people or women serve?
crtnyevans 1 year ago 2
David Keen: "Folks who don't know very much about the way the military operates or what is good or bad for it are telling us how it ought to be run." Indeed! He must be referring to ignorant "folks" like JCOS chairman Adm. Mike Mullen, ex JCOS chairman Gen. Colin Powell, and Sec. of Defense Robert Gates.
mobedro 1 year ago 5
Wow! Tom Minnery of FOF emoting for the welfare of young gay men who might be "bruised, angry, and severely disappointed". Who knew? (Has he no concern for bruised lesbians, or does he assume they can already handle themselves in a warrior culture? )
mobedro 1 year ago 3
I have a hard time with the idea that only those who served in the military can have an opinion on how its run. People can become experts on many things, without actually experiencing it. Now, being in the military DOES give you additional, useful expertise that should be valued. That said, Tony Perkins and the rest of these losers need to stop making up "facts" that support their bigoted ideas and ridiculous forecasts that the military will fall apart if "teh gays" are allowed in.
swank1x 1 year ago 3
Have any of these deluded speakers made the effort to see the real effect of this "social engineering" where it has been applied, eg in any number of Western militaries, with no ill-effects whatever
johnniemoore 1 year ago 3
Of course not Johnniemoore! They wouldn't want to confuse the issue with the truth!!!
NoOnProp8OC 1 year ago 2
With the exception of Admiral Lyons, none of these yahoos have ever served in the military. So, their opinion, much like that of the fry person at McDonalds means nothing. They are only experts at hate, not military affairs.
cryan71 1 year ago 4
Oohh I love it when that cute old sailor at the end gets BITCHY!
babydweezil 1 year ago 6
How anyone can be this closed off to the world in 2010 is beyond me. These people in the video don't know anything except stereotypes. If I were a conservative, I'd be heading over to the Liberal side just so I wouldn't be associated with these people.
starboy57 1 year ago 4
Is this a piece by The Onion?
kingme99 1 year ago 4
@kingme99
I was thinking the same thing.
RottingintheMidwest 1 year ago
Homosexuality not compatible with the "warrior culture"? Guess they forgot about Alexander the Great.
timc888 1 year ago 4
It's too bad Obama is having to import terrorists. Why can't we make and export anything in this country? Typical.
JKDflash85 1 year ago
Idjit
Literarymasochist 1 year ago
Bigots on parade. Pat Robertson, that senile old bigot, would be proud. I can imagine the same arguments against racial integration.
stevelaudig 1 year ago
I love how the right are the first to say we need to respect without question the judgement of military brass...except in this issue!
MostIngenious 1 year ago 4
So pathetic, that you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Hey morons, there are currently over 70,000 gay men and women CURRENTLY serving in the military.
It's all there on the servicemembers legal defense network's website...read and learn something you pathetic, delusional nutjobs.
God, the face of conservatism today is absolutelly horrifying.
In the not so distant future, people will look back at this time in our country's history with shock and horror.
Stay classy Conservatives.
mpbndc 1 year ago 4
David Keene is a law school graduate who once served as special assistant to Spiro Agnew. His biography says nothing about serving in the military. Do these people hear themselves talk?
Heraldblog 1 year ago
@Heraldblog Exactly!
odypoly 1 year ago
I would only say to Tony Perkins that I'm not sure that the 52% of people in California who voted in favor of Prop H8 really understand the conditions in which gay Americans in loving, committed relationships have to live. And I'd love to know what year it was when the Navy "found" that it couldn't have thieves, druggies, and homosexuals aboard its ships... sounds like the '40s.
cathlicscholboy4life 1 year ago
Are you dinosaurs remotely aware it is 2010, for God's sake? Pull your heads out of your bloody arses.
Penny Nance wants to forego Miranda & civil rights?
David Keene makes a point that folks who don't know this & that... not realizing he doesn't know fuckall about life either.
Old fart Admiral makes shit up. Times have changed, old man. Shut up, go sit on your coach, watch ultra-conservative lying pundits and die.
No country with an openly gay military has any of the problems you allege.
lafemmefatalle 1 year ago 2
CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!!
TheOcantomi85 1 year ago
WTF is wrong with Penny Nance's weave? She looks like she just got done fighting in Thunderdome. The thought of being on a ship with homosexuality running" rampant", makes me want to enlist. God Bless America.
charmboi3178 1 year ago 3
Okay these guys are morons. Repealing DADT is not going to cause gay people to start screwing when they're supposed to be battle-ready. It's just going to let the gay people that are ALREADY in the military be HONEST without fear of being FIRED in spite of serving honorable careers. I doubt on-duty sexual activity between hetero members of the military is allowed either, and this is an altogether desperate issue. And the fear of "unit cohesion" is easily resolved by getting rid of homophobes.
enigmatically 1 year ago 4
Elaine, light your tampon. It'll be the only bang you ever get.
BasilTheBasilisk 1 year ago 2
These guys don't know their gay military history. Spartans? Alexander? Richard the Lionheart?
rg0057 1 year ago 3
Don't forget Hadrian, the Emperor.
NacodaLupine 1 year ago
Ten's of THOUSANDS of HOMO's are ALREADY serving in the military!! They just want to be HONEST about who they are! Duh!
These people are so fucking stupid.
TIme for them to die off.
The next generation doesn't care about who is gay or straight. Just do your fucking job!!!
secure214 1 year ago 7
They forgot their white robes.
homerth1555 1 year ago 10
I get the feeling most don't understand that gays are already allowed to serve, and already are doing so. Getting rid of "Don't ask; don't tell" would simply mean they could be honest to their fellow soldiers if they were asked and not fear discharge for that honesty.
boeingjock 1 year ago 4
Penny Nance really needs a gay in her life to fix that rat's nest.
MarinersRevenge1 1 year ago 5
LOL, I have no idea what's funnier. I guess I'd give the prize to the guy saying that people who don't know economics saying how economy should be run - 'cause we all know it wasn't the "economic experts" who caused the recent crash...
vital427 1 year ago 7
Lmao, good one!!
TheOcantomi85 1 year ago
wow. I didn't know you could get this many idiots in just one little video. Remarkable.
SeparateisntEqual 1 year ago 10
we are not in the century!
1LittleLilith 1 year ago 4