They were persucted themselves and now they are the ones who have benn persecuting people for 60 years.
You would have thought that these people would understand why the Palestinians fight. They still see themselves as the victim when the real victim is the Palestinians.
Have a good day. I can see that I will not get anywhere with speaking to such a twisted and warped man like (thenewsfarm).
I think he reads too much "country Life" magazines which shows how lonely he is.
Yeah I've heard of that magazine as well. Lonely and sad people tend to read that.
The News Farm seems a perfect place to find other lonely and sad people who beleive in making fun of serious issues. I can imagine that this guy (thenewsfarm) gets all is information from there.
Notice how desperate he is to make conversations with people. I think he finished reading all his "Country Life" and how he needs some company to make him feel happy.
What a sad man indeed. Its impossible to speak with him since he is so brain washed and is quick to change which country he lives in. If we speak of Consistution he is from the US, if we speak about Israel he is an Israeli. Now he reckons himself to be a monk from Timbuktu, Mali.
Yeah Timbuktu sound like the perfect place for him to live at. I bet he moved there this morning lol.
Do you ever think those Israeli's will ever learn from history or do you think they will eventually declare themselves a National Socialist Governmnet.
Their actions certainly make them look like a National Socialsit Governmnet. There people are brain washed like the Germans were under Hitler and they don't respect International Law something the Nazis did not respect either.
I feel a comparison comming on...
Anyways, lets leave this poor sad and lonely mand to fester in his own lies and deciet. Maybe he will choke himself on "Country Life". LOL.
Mark dear, your endless ruminations regarding my being "a lonely Country Life reader" etc clearly highlight your inability to stay on topic due both an intellectual deficiency & ignorance. Well dear, my kettle is on the boil and besides I need to use the restroom. I must be moving on. Kindly send my warm regards to Tzimne. Only good things, Mark. Ciao...
Tzinem-- Breathe deep. Count to ten. Everything will be all right. I promise. I strongly suggest Anger & Expletives Management classes to avoid self combustion. Perhaps Yoga?..
"Tzinem-- Breathe deep. Count to ten. Everything will be all right. I promise. I strongly suggest Anger & Expletives Management classes to avoid self combustion. Perhaps Yoga?.. Bye for now sweetie and keep me posted "
Now thats more like it. You are actually responding to a comment and forming a discussion.
One of the basic principles of communication and you are finaly demonstrating it.
Tzinem-- My enemy exploits western standards for his advantage. Same as yours. British radical Imams use your Democracy to bring its downfall. Ever asked yourself why %40 of British born Muslim youth advocate Sharia Law in Britain?
Tzinem---"Are you ashamed to show everyone you are an Israeli"
Assuming seems to be your worst enemy because it leads you presume yet once again. I moved back to Israel due to a severe illness. I did not have time nor interest to correct my current whereabouts. I have far better things to do with my time.
Tzinem-- Hamas revoked Oslo Accords, got Gaza, launch rockets & hide in schools. What am I suppose to do? Quit defending myself because of international law? Ask these "brave warriors" to face me head on. Mano amano. I have to report to my family first. The venerated Geneva Conventions will have to wait !
Tzinem-- "This issue I have with Israel is justified under Law"
What law are you referring too? My 2 little daughters are shell shocked & spend endless nights in a shelter. Do I have the right to defend them? Do I need your permission to defend them? What are the definitions of a legal war? I thought we already clarified the absurdity of such nonsensical poppycock...
Tzinem-- Al Kaeda boasted global invincibility. Muslims world wide were emboldened. In Iraq Al Kaead was decimated. For the first time Global Jihad lost a battle. A huge blow to Bin Laden. The road to victory will be arduous but Iraq's success is a cataclysmic mile stone !
Mark-----"If your not American then why are you telling people that you live in the US?" (MarkPevar)
You assume, presume,prosecute,indict, sentence & execute. Wow...Not good for your credibility though. I lived in the U.S for a few years & returned to Israel. Show me one previous comment where i identify myself as an American. I'm counting on you. You can do it
Thanks, it seems this guy is very sad. He told a friend of mine that he was an American and that "...uk has no right to talk about my constitution. wheres your consitution."
I think its best that we both ignore this sad man for spreading his lies. Maybe he can not help it.
Yeah, many Zionists are quick to explain away innocent deaths and treat everyone of Palestine like they are responsible.
They justify killing 257 children (Source = UN figure) by claiming they were attacking Hamas. We both know that there is no excuse for this. The Birtish Governmnet never bombed Northern Ireland when they were fighting the IRA but Israel doesn't care about innocent civilians.
Isreal blames the innocent deaths on Hamas. A typical "shrugging shoulders"!!
"Ill informed Jewish p.m's can twitter to their heart's delight."
Mark, it sounds like he is talking about the Israeli Government now. Lol, I must agree with him all Jewish p.m's are ill informed. Thats why they allow Zionism to conitnue controlling their country and killing innocent people in their fight to reclaim their land.
"If only the Israel Governmnet would respect the rights of these people to get their land back and maybe they could have peace." (Mark)----------I support a 2 state solution. My opponent doesn't recognize my right to exist (uncompromising religious grounds). Please advise...oh do hurry !
you live in a racist society where a white man can be cleared of beating a 10 year old arab boy to death with a pistol (murder) and walk away with a community service order for assault.
as with all racist nations ur right wing media has been filling ur mind with such contrived, inconsistant propaganda. why dont u actually look into the studies conducted by academics ie most arabs living in israel want peace and most israelis want peace.
"He told a friend of mine that he was an American" (MarkPevar)---------- Looks like you are running out of steam, Mark. Your obsessive inclination to cling to my personal life suggests despondence of the tallest order. I'm actually a Mongolian monk... (although I was born in Timbuktu)...
"M. Regev lies direct on tv...attacking first is not breacking the cease fire"(MarkPevar)
The cease fire terms clearly stipulate no weapons smuggling. Hamas dug hundreds of tunnels and armed Gaza to the teeth. A clear and blatant violation of the cease fire...
"A very well resepected Jewish Zionist explains it to you" (MarkPevar)
Ill informed Jewish p.m's can twitter to their heart's delight. The infamous Janin "massacre' stunned the world. (allegedly 600 killed). Problem was that only 50 armed militia men died (U.N 2nd inquiry). Utterly intentional fabrication. So much for "objective" media & U.N. (1st inquiry). Don't make me laugh...
"Mark Regev Admits that Hamas did not fire during the cease fire and that Israel fired first."(MarkPevar)
Hamas doesn't have to fire first. Intent to kill me is evident (Read his charter). Constant rearmament is well documented. The concept of pre-emption guarantees my ability to counter your biased vitriol...
Tzinem--I never claimed to have believed in God. I believe in my right to live in peace just like you do. Don't assume. Assumptions lead to presumptions hence erroneous mind sets. Base you opinions on hard core facts.
As an Israeli I see NO hypocrisy in defending my right to exist. Launch rockets at my house and expect a decisive retaliation with absolutely no apologies NON WHAT SO EVER. Hide in schools - Bear the responsibility.
Tzimne---"Why are you angry?? Who are you angry with???"
I'm angry with European self righteousness at my expense. Preaching me morals & international law. Look inward for a change. Nato pilots bombed Serbia indiscriminately killing 10,000 Muslim Bosnians. International law anyone? Really/...
"I'm angry with European self righteousness at my expense. Preaching me morals & international law."
Go fuck yourself Nazi Scum!!
You made the choice to go to Israel and rape the land. Thats right Israel raped Palestine. You are a bunch of CUnts and you deserve everything you get.
Fucking making sweeping judgements on people based on where they are from??
Tzimne---Perhaps you could shed a few words as to your self proclaimed "anti Zionism" & anti Israeli sentiments". Let me know where your resentment is coming from...
"Tzimne---Perhaps you could shed a few words as to your self proclaimed "anti Zionism" & anti Israeli sentiments". Let me know where your resentment is coming from..."
Go fuck yourself. You had a chance at the start to be civil and you turned into a Nazi.
Tzimen--U.S & allies freed Iraq from Sadam (a.k.a "The Butcher of Bagdad"), Democracy thrives BIG TIME, Sunni, Shia & Kurds coalesce harmoniously, Libya gave up nukes fearing the same. Al Kaeda suffered total defeat in Iraq. Huge repercussion throughout the Muslim world. Wait 50 years before passing judgment
France used overwhelming military force to put down anti-French violence in The Ivory Coast, (former colony) using troops, armored vehicles & air force. What was France doing there in the first place? Prosecute France for asymmetrical warfare. Civilized world anyone?
Russian butchered 100,000 independence seeking Muslim Chechens in Grozny. Expel Russia from the civilized world, jail Putin & condemn Europe for keeping mute. Selective sympathy and hypocrisy anyone?
Europe stood idle when Serbs ethnically cleansed Muslim Bosnians in her front yard. Following U.S lead, Nato pilots indiscriminately bombed 10,000 Bosnians to an untimely death. Join my crusade to expel Europe from the civilized world and prosecute the pilots for crimes against humanity.
Uk was on the forefront of condemning Israel's anti terror policiy as human rights violations. Well, UK Parliament approved Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act. The discriminatory power to detain foreign nationals suspected of terrorism without charge. Bravo on the double standards
Worried about a loss of national identity, alienated by Islamic extremism, and frustrated by a sense that the newcomers are taking advantage of Holland's cradle-to-grave social-welfare system, the Dutch are enacting some of the toughest immigration restrictions in Europe. Civilized world anyone?
Since the UN Committee on the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of racial Discrimination reported disproportionate use of stop and search powers against ethnic minorities in Britain, I strongly urge all good people out there to expel Britain from the civilized world at once !
The British army once had 106 bases and 27,000 troops in Northern Ireland, and had 44 bases as recently as two years ago. Why meddle in other country affairs, and if so, quit preaching morals to others
Israel is The Jews last refuge from endless global persecution. Israeli Arabs vote & represented in Kneset. Last time I checked, the EU is reconsidering its immigration policies to curb immigration. Israel's real estate is 1/6 of that of England. Self righteousness aside. Self preservation comes first
Israel is no danger, well just ask the people of southern Lebanon and the palestinians of the Gaza strip and the west bank, you fool! Israel is occupying territory which it stole in 1948, flouts all UN resolutions and is guilty of systematic genocide!! Open your eyes elevenmystics and smell the coffee.
Yeah that's right call anyone who doesn't agree with the Israeli regime an antisemite.
Fact of the matter is you have an Jewish government, if you had a secular government the Palestinians would have no legitimate cause, but you don't, non-secular governments are morally wrong, and can never be fair.
If the Israelis fight for a secular goverment you might be able to break down barriers and finally have peace, and some day I hope the Israelis see the light, and join the civilised world.
1948-League of Nations recognized Israel. Arabs didn't, waged wars & lost.Tough luck. Hamas charter intent on Israel's destruction. Revoked Oslo Accords & launched 6000 rockets after getting Gaza. Israeli government is secular. Israeli Arabs vote&represented in Kneset. Get the facts !
Secular by name perhaps, not by nature. A government which has different immigration laws based on what religion you are is not secular, get the facts!
Why not spend your intellectual energy on banning trade with China for invading Tibet and horrific human rights violations or condemning Indonesia for starving 250,000 East Timoreans to death? Europe chose to do nothing but you & I will. I'm getting excited already. Oh, do hurry, will you?...
Israel offered %96 of the West bank to Arafat (Camp David). He said no & ordered the 2nd Intifada. What were English troops doing in The Falkland Islands? Subjugating North Ireland anyone? Quit being so self righteous. Don't preach to others what you don't practice at home.
"Subjugating North Ireland" complete bullshit, the Catholic population in Northern (note the spelling) Ireland is in the minority. They wanted reuniting with Eire, but the majority population in NI did not. The Catholic population in Northern Ireland was never systematically subjugated by the British government, rather by their own neighbours. A problem which has largely improved. And in the Falklands the British were protecting the population of a sovereign territory.
If Britain fought in the Falklands to protect sovereign territory, Israel's incursion into Gaza was in order to defend its sovereign territory (Israel proper) against 6000 rockets. The Falklands presented no existential threat to Britain. The rockets terrorized entire Israeli cities. What a difference...
You obviously know nothing of the politics surrounding the Falklands War, or are purposefully distorting the truth. Either way using "Tu Quoque" is not a means on justification for a massacre of civilians. Especially when your examples are ridiculously poorly chosen.
All my examples are indeed chosen. The "poorly' is your expedient prerogative. The Falkland war was a war. Anti war mongers should ban all wars or risk moral hypocrisy. There was no massacre in Gaza. There was a massacre in Bosnia. Europe did nothing. Don't preaching morals to others.
Nato pilots bombed Bosnia indiscriminately killing 10,000 innocent Bosnians. Ridiculous? "Poorly chosen"? Condemn Nato and Europe before others. Israel fights an enemy who is sworn to its destruction. 6000 rockets. The quintessential indiscriminate cluster bombs. Quit the hypocrisy
What would you do had your city received a daily barrage of indiscriminate rockets, traumatizing your kids who are forced to spend their nights in shelters? Hamas revoked Oslo Accords, received Gaza back and intent on Israel's destruction for religious reasons. No compromise. Please advise...
In conclusion, your moral indignation is worthless unless based on objectivity,logic and factual corroboration. Selective sympathy renders its mongers as sinister merchants of pain and suffering. A slaughtered Bosnian child is worth the same as a Palestinian or an Israeli one. Have a jolly day !
Great Britain had no moral problems while bombing the living day light of Dresden in WW-2. No strategic value, none what so ever. No less than 25,000 innocent Germans were incinerated in a matter of seconds. What gives? Why the double standards? "Poorly chosen" ? Ignorance perhaps?
You missed out Mers el Kebir, oh yeah and the Massacre of Glencoe, you could go back through time and pick out every regrettable action Britain has ever made in history and it wouldn't make any difference to the situation in Israel, clearly you didn't understand my "Tu Quoque" comment perhaps you should google it.
I provided a whole slew of current examples which you depicted as "poorly chosen, ridiculous & purposely distorted". Now you add: antiquated to the list. Accusing is the easy part. Explaining how and why is trickier. You even described me as "ignorant". Why waste your time on idiots? like me?
Oh my God,thank you much for proving my point. A typical patronizing, self righteous and snobbish British response. I could not have asked for a better ending. Thank you again and good luck to you!
My sentiments are dedicated to loathing hypocrisy, double standards, self righteousness & exporting values not practiced at home. Whether British, Svengali, Vietnamese or East Salvadorian. I don't underline. I say things as I see them & I practice my preaching at home. Take care
Tzimne---- Enemy doesn't recognize my right to exist (religious grounds), no peace, revoked Oslo Accords, got Gaza & launched 6000 indiscriminate " "clustered" rocket "bombs", terrorizing my city & traumatizing my shelter clad kids. Attack me & expect retaliation. Don't hide in schools because I'm coming after you. I don't wish to hurt no one BUT YOU !
Tzimne----At any rate, in light of symmetrical vs asymmetrical warfare, I will recommend Israeli military to donate %50 of its weaponry to Hamas as well as complimentary training. This will make our conflict perfectly legal and definitely fair. Wouldn't you say?
"I will recommend Israeli military to donate %50 of its weaponry to Hamas"
Don't be so silly sir, no one is saying that!!!!
Are you aware of the IRA conflict we had in the UK?? The conflict between the IRA and the UK ended when both sides sat down at the table and negotiatied.
I would suggest that Israel at least try and negotiate with Hamas to bring peace to the region. But before this both Israel and Hamas must respect the cease fire. That is reasonable don't you think?
Tzimne---Gaza T.V broadcasts "Kill Jews" Mickey Mouse cartoons for religious indoctrination of next generations. Toddlers made to wear suicide vests for halloween. 73 heaven clad virgins await each suicide bomber. Religious fanaticism etched into local DNA. IRA closer to an Ester Bunny than these fanatically religious killing machines .
Tzimne---"Do you think that Israel should be allowed to bomb anyone because other nations have done something illegal in the past??"------There are 2 kinds of morality: one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach----Hypocrisy (the ugliest kind)
"There are 2 kinds of morality: one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach----Hypocrisy (the ugliest kind)"
I agree the US, UK and Israel along with other countries carry out this hypocrisy on a daily basis. Look at this illegal war we are fighting in Iraq. Our two countries US and UK seem to be making enemy's faster then we can make friends.
Tzimne----Remember the infamous "Janin Janin" docudrama entailing presumed massacre of 600 civilians by Israel?-Well, guess what..U.N. inquiry revealed only 50 armed fighters dead. A complete hoax. Total fabrication. Nada. Zilch. What massacre? Are you kidding me? So much for Palestinian propaganda.
"Are you kidding me? So much for Palestinian propaganda."
Sir, I am confused since you are throwing this at me like I was the one who said it.
Lets get one thing straight before we continue further. I am Anti-Zionist. I am Anti-Israel.
Being one or both of these has no connection with your religion. I respect your right to believe in any God you wish you choose. I myself am Athiest and so I tend to leave religion out of it completely.
This issue I have with Israel is justified under Law!!
In conclusion, your moral indignation is worthless unless based on objectivity,logic and factual corroboration. Selective sympathy renders its mongers as sinister merchants of pain and suffering. A slaughtered Bosnian child is worth the same as a Palestinian or an Israeli one. Have a jolly day !
Indeed I did, I appreciate Mr Wedgewood Benn greatly, I don't always agree with what he says but at least he speaks some semblance of the truth although he may not interpret it the same way I do, I appreciate him greatly.
Were was Tony when Russia butchered 100,000 Muslim Chechens in Grozny? or when Europe stood idle while Serbs butchered Muslim Bosnians? Selective Sympathy anyone? Nah...Self righteousness/? Nah... not Tony, no way...
"You do whatever the President of the United States tell you to do"
Yep, that's British foreign policy!
ansteysghost 1 year ago
Tzimnewman,
They were persucted themselves and now they are the ones who have benn persecuting people for 60 years.
You would have thought that these people would understand why the Palestinians fight. They still see themselves as the victim when the real victim is the Palestinians.
Have a good day. I can see that I will not get anywhere with speaking to such a twisted and warped man like (thenewsfarm).
I think he reads too much "country Life" magazines which shows how lonely he is.
MarkPevar 3 years ago 7
Cheers Mark,
Yeah I've heard of that magazine as well. Lonely and sad people tend to read that.
The News Farm seems a perfect place to find other lonely and sad people who beleive in making fun of serious issues. I can imagine that this guy (thenewsfarm) gets all is information from there.
And yesterday I thought I was talking
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimnewman,
Notice how desperate he is to make conversations with people. I think he finished reading all his "Country Life" and how he needs some company to make him feel happy.
What a sad man indeed. Its impossible to speak with him since he is so brain washed and is quick to change which country he lives in. If we speak of Consistution he is from the US, if we speak about Israel he is an Israeli. Now he reckons himself to be a monk from Timbuktu, Mali.
Lol.
MarkPevar 3 years ago
Mark,
Yeah Timbuktu sound like the perfect place for him to live at. I bet he moved there this morning lol.
Do you ever think those Israeli's will ever learn from history or do you think they will eventually declare themselves a National Socialist Governmnet.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimneman,
Their actions certainly make them look like a National Socialsit Governmnet. There people are brain washed like the Germans were under Hitler and they don't respect International Law something the Nazis did not respect either.
I feel a comparison comming on...
Anyways, lets leave this poor sad and lonely mand to fester in his own lies and deciet. Maybe he will choke himself on "Country Life". LOL.
Take care and thanks for your comments.
MarkPevar 3 years ago
Cheers Mark,
Yeah I certainly can see the comparisons.
Take care.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
"Two "dears" in the same comment. Thats double bonus points."(Tzimne)
Thank you much for the correction & opportunity to expose your ignorance, undecipherable rambling & racial hate. Bye bye dear...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Mark dear, your endless ruminations regarding my being "a lonely Country Life reader" etc clearly highlight your inability to stay on topic due both an intellectual deficiency & ignorance. Well dear, my kettle is on the boil and besides I need to use the restroom. I must be moving on. Kindly send my warm regards to Tzimne. Only good things, Mark. Ciao...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Hey Mark, I'm still waiting confirmation of my alleged being an American as I presumably "told" a friend of yours.
Accusing is the easy part. Provide proof or risk self inflicted hypocrisy & deceit
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Do Jewish people hate themeselves? " (MarlPevar)
Do all British people eat cucumber sandwiches? Not good Mark. Not good at all. You can do better than that. I'm counting on you !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Why are Zionists acting like Nazi's????
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzinem-- Breathe deep. Count to ten. Everything will be all right. I promise. I strongly suggest Anger & Expletives Management classes to avoid self combustion. Perhaps Yoga?..
Bye for now sweetie and keep me posted
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Tzinem-- Breathe deep. Count to ten. Everything will be all right. I promise. I strongly suggest Anger & Expletives Management classes to avoid self combustion. Perhaps Yoga?.. Bye for now sweetie and keep me posted "
Now thats more like it. You are actually responding to a comment and forming a discussion.
One of the basic principles of communication and you are finaly demonstrating it.
I'm happy that I was able to push your buttons!!!
Bye for now sweetie
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzinem-- My enemy exploits western standards for his advantage. Same as yours. British radical Imams use your Democracy to bring its downfall. Ever asked yourself why %40 of British born Muslim youth advocate Sharia Law in Britain?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"ame as yours. British radical Imams use your Democracy to bring its downfall."
You sound like another BNP member. These are a group in the UK which have the same goals as Nazi's.
So do you feel proud to sound like another Nazi????
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzinem---"Are you ashamed to show everyone you are an Israeli"
Assuming seems to be your worst enemy because it leads you presume yet once again. I moved back to Israel due to a severe illness. I did not have time nor interest to correct my current whereabouts. I have far better things to do with my time.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"I have far better things to do with my time."
Is that why you are here chatting bollocks and spreading lies.
Your full of bullshit do you know that!!!!!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzinem-- Hamas revoked Oslo Accords, got Gaza, launch rockets & hide in schools. What am I suppose to do? Quit defending myself because of international law? Ask these "brave warriors" to face me head on. Mano amano. I have to report to my family first. The venerated Geneva Conventions will have to wait !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Tzinem-- "This issue I have with Israel is justified under Law"
What law are you referring too? My 2 little daughters are shell shocked & spend endless nights in a shelter. Do I have the right to defend them? Do I need your permission to defend them? What are the definitions of a legal war? I thought we already clarified the absurdity of such nonsensical poppycock...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
thenewsfarm,
Look, you are the one who is miss representing yourself. You put your country down as USA.
Are you ashamed to show everyone you are an Israeli???
As for the justification:
UN RES 242, UN RES 442 and UN RES 181.
Now I suggest you take that chip of your shoulder becasue your other comments are not making any sense to my comments.
Normaly when someone makes a comment to you (a polite one at that) it is normal to respond to the comments. Its called discussion.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
"My 2 little daughters are shell shocked & spend endless nights in a shelter."
Are you in the US or are you in Israel???
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzinem-- Al Kaeda boasted global invincibility. Muslims world wide were emboldened. In Iraq Al Kaead was decimated. For the first time Global Jihad lost a battle. A huge blow to Bin Laden. The road to victory will be arduous but Iraq's success is a cataclysmic mile stone !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
thenewsfarm,
Do all Americans act like you?
MarkPevar 3 years ago
I'm not an American. Do all Brits act like you?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"I'm not an American. Do all Brits act like you?"
There is another lie coming from your mouth!!
If your not American then why are you telling people that you live in the US????
In the past I have seen comments from you that clerly identify yourself as being American.
When Peter554 insulted your US Constitution your blood raged like an American Patriot that you are!!!!
MarkPevar 3 years ago
Mark-----"If your not American then why are you telling people that you live in the US?" (MarkPevar)
You assume, presume,prosecute,indict, sentence & execute. Wow...Not good for your credibility though. I lived in the U.S for a few years & returned to Israel. Show me one previous comment where i identify myself as an American. I'm counting on you. You can do it
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"If your not American then why are you telling people that you live in the US?" (markPevar)
At any rate, the thought that some mongers bother to check my newsfarm site does wonders to my challenged self esteem. Sincere gratitude is in order.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Still waiting..."
Why are Jews painting swastikas and claiming anti-semitism???
watch?v=vEEgpIwiEFA
Do Jewish people hate themeselves? Or are they creating the problem.
A very well resepected Jewish Zionist explains it to you. watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
Ron Paul a Respected US Congressmen explians it to you. watch?v=4Z6vMAoFwf4
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
You didn't answer his questions!!
Are you afraid??
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimnewman3,
Thanks, it seems this guy is very sad. He told a friend of mine that he was an American and that "...uk has no right to talk about my constitution. wheres your consitution."
I think its best that we both ignore this sad man for spreading his lies. Maybe he can not help it.
MarkPevar 3 years ago
Thanks Mark.
Yeah, many Zionists are quick to explain away innocent deaths and treat everyone of Palestine like they are responsible.
They justify killing 257 children (Source = UN figure) by claiming they were attacking Hamas. We both know that there is no excuse for this. The Birtish Governmnet never bombed Northern Ireland when they were fighting the IRA but Israel doesn't care about innocent civilians.
Isreal blames the innocent deaths on Hamas. A typical "shrugging shoulders"!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago 2
No problems Tzimnewman,
Thanks,
The IRA was never defeated and could never be defeated by the British Governmnet and you see Israel which seems unable to learn anything from history.
If only the Israel Governmnet would respect the rights of these people to get their land back and maybe they could have peace.
But I think Israel doesn't wan't peace because if they truly did they would know their actions in killing innocent people makes Hamas stronger.
IRA and Hamas will never be defeated!
MarkPevar 3 years ago 3
"Ill informed Jewish p.m's can twitter to their heart's delight."
Mark, it sounds like he is talking about the Israeli Government now. Lol, I must agree with him all Jewish p.m's are ill informed. Thats why they allow Zionism to conitnue controlling their country and killing innocent people in their fight to reclaim their land.
Zionists are hypocrites.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
"If only the Israel Governmnet would respect the rights of these people to get their land back and maybe they could have peace." (Mark)----------I support a 2 state solution. My opponent doesn't recognize my right to exist (uncompromising religious grounds). Please advise...oh do hurry !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Israel's existence is not in question. With its stockpile of nuclear weapons,it is the only military superpower in the region.
mowglee09 2 years ago
@thenewsfarm
you live in a racist society where a white man can be cleared of beating a 10 year old arab boy to death with a pistol (murder) and walk away with a community service order for assault.
as with all racist nations ur right wing media has been filling ur mind with such contrived, inconsistant propaganda. why dont u actually look into the studies conducted by academics ie most arabs living in israel want peace and most israelis want peace.
just goes to show how moronic you both are.
421ikoom 1 year ago
"He told a friend of mine that he was an American" (MarkPevar)---------- Looks like you are running out of steam, Mark. Your obsessive inclination to cling to my personal life suggests despondence of the tallest order. I'm actually a Mongolian monk... (although I was born in Timbuktu)...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"If the Israeli lies like this imagine what else they lie about" (MarkPevar)
What lies? Name one
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"If the Israeli lies like this imagine what else they lie about" (MarkPevar)
Still waiting... name one single lie. Shouldn't be that difficult, now does it?...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Still waiting..."
Why are Jews painting swastikas and claiming anti-semitism???
watch?v=vEEgpIwiEFA
Do Jewish people hate themeselves? Or are they creating the problem.
A very well resepected Jewish Zionist explains it to you. watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8
Ron Paul a Respected US Congressmen explians it to you. watch?v=4Z6vMAoFwf4
MarkPevar 3 years ago
Mark Regev an Israeli Spokesperson lies direct on tv. According to Mark Regev attacking first is not breacking the cease fire.
In this smae Logic Hamas can also bomb and kill people without breacking the cease fire.
Brain washed or ignorant??
MarkPevar 3 years ago
"M. Regev lies direct on tv...attacking first is not breacking the cease fire"(MarkPevar)
The cease fire terms clearly stipulate no weapons smuggling. Hamas dug hundreds of tunnels and armed Gaza to the teeth. A clear and blatant violation of the cease fire...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"A very well resepected Jewish Zionist explains it to you" (MarkPevar)
Ill informed Jewish p.m's can twitter to their heart's delight. The infamous Janin "massacre' stunned the world. (allegedly 600 killed). Problem was that only 50 armed militia men died (U.N 2nd inquiry). Utterly intentional fabrication. So much for "objective" media & U.N. (1st inquiry). Don't make me laugh...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Mark Regev Admits that Hamas did not fire during the cease fire and that Israel fired first.
watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM
Direct from the hourses mouth!!
MarkPevar 3 years ago
"Mark Regev Admits that Hamas did not fire during the cease fire and that Israel fired first."(MarkPevar)
Hamas doesn't have to fire first. Intent to kill me is evident (Read his charter). Constant rearmament is well documented. The concept of pre-emption guarantees my ability to counter your biased vitriol...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Tzinem--I never claimed to have believed in God. I believe in my right to live in peace just like you do. Don't assume. Assumptions lead to presumptions hence erroneous mind sets. Base you opinions on hard core facts.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Base you opinions on hard core facts."
It is you who is ranting and raving about something or the other which has caused you to loose making your point.
I still don't understand your point because you have flooded the page with too many different opinions.
Like you said:
"Base you opinions on hard core facts." !!!!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimen--"US, UK & Israel carry out hypocrisy"
As an Israeli I see NO hypocrisy in defending my right to exist. Launch rockets at my house and expect a decisive retaliation with absolutely no apologies NON WHAT SO EVER. Hide in schools - Bear the responsibility.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"As an Israeli I see NO hypocrisy in defending my right to exist."
Who is questioning that???? You are not even reading my words. I never questioned your right to exist. Every man and woman has a right to exist.
"Launch rockets at my house and expect a decisive retaliation with absolutely no apologies NON WHAT SO EVER."
Why are you angry?? Who are you angry with??
More importantly whom are you refering your comments to????
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne---"Why are you angry?? Who are you angry with???"
I'm angry with European self righteousness at my expense. Preaching me morals & international law. Look inward for a change. Nato pilots bombed Serbia indiscriminately killing 10,000 Muslim Bosnians. International law anyone? Really/...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"I'm angry with European self righteousness at my expense. Preaching me morals & international law."
Go fuck yourself Nazi Scum!!
You made the choice to go to Israel and rape the land. Thats right Israel raped Palestine. You are a bunch of CUnts and you deserve everything you get.
Fucking making sweeping judgements on people based on where they are from??
Your a fucking European yourself retard!!!!!!
Fuck Israel and Fuck Zionism!!!!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
"Nato pilots bombed Serbia indiscriminately killing 10,000 Muslim Bosnians"
Care you backup what you say with evidence?
I guess not since all Zionists don't use evidence to make their conclusions.
They jump straight into the Bibile.
Sir, The Bibile may suite you but not everyone!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne---Perhaps you could shed a few words as to your self proclaimed "anti Zionism" & anti Israeli sentiments". Let me know where your resentment is coming from...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Tzimne---Perhaps you could shed a few words as to your self proclaimed "anti Zionism" & anti Israeli sentiments". Let me know where your resentment is coming from..."
Go fuck yourself. You had a chance at the start to be civil and you turned into a Nazi.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimen--U.S & allies freed Iraq from Sadam (a.k.a "The Butcher of Bagdad"), Democracy thrives BIG TIME, Sunni, Shia & Kurds coalesce harmoniously, Libya gave up nukes fearing the same. Al Kaeda suffered total defeat in Iraq. Huge repercussion throughout the Muslim world. Wait 50 years before passing judgment
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
France used overwhelming military force to put down anti-French violence in The Ivory Coast, (former colony) using troops, armored vehicles & air force. What was France doing there in the first place? Prosecute France for asymmetrical warfare. Civilized world anyone?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Russian butchered 100,000 independence seeking Muslim Chechens in Grozny. Expel Russia from the civilized world, jail Putin & condemn Europe for keeping mute. Selective sympathy and hypocrisy anyone?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Europe stood idle when Serbs ethnically cleansed Muslim Bosnians in her front yard. Following U.S lead, Nato pilots indiscriminately bombed 10,000 Bosnians to an untimely death. Join my crusade to expel Europe from the civilized world and prosecute the pilots for crimes against humanity.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Uk was on the forefront of condemning Israel's anti terror policiy as human rights violations. Well, UK Parliament approved Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act. The discriminatory power to detain foreign nationals suspected of terrorism without charge. Bravo on the double standards
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Worried about a loss of national identity, alienated by Islamic extremism, and frustrated by a sense that the newcomers are taking advantage of Holland's cradle-to-grave social-welfare system, the Dutch are enacting some of the toughest immigration restrictions in Europe. Civilized world anyone?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Since the UN Committee on the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of racial Discrimination reported disproportionate use of stop and search powers against ethnic minorities in Britain, I strongly urge all good people out there to expel Britain from the civilized world at once !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
The British army once had 106 bases and 27,000 troops in Northern Ireland, and had 44 bases as recently as two years ago. Why meddle in other country affairs, and if so, quit preaching morals to others
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Israel is The Jews last refuge from endless global persecution. Israeli Arabs vote & represented in Kneset. Last time I checked, the EU is reconsidering its immigration policies to curb immigration. Israel's real estate is 1/6 of that of England. Self righteousness aside. Self preservation comes first
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
George Galloway said
Brown and Blair and different cheeks of the same butt.
morpheous7 3 years ago
Israel is no danger, well just ask the people of southern Lebanon and the palestinians of the Gaza strip and the west bank, you fool! Israel is occupying territory which it stole in 1948, flouts all UN resolutions and is guilty of systematic genocide!! Open your eyes elevenmystics and smell the coffee.
teacher3469 3 years ago
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antisemite in disguise, cynical, false peace seeker, self involved. Iran is the danger. Gordon Brown is no danger, Israel is no danger. Iran is
elevenmystics 3 years ago
Yeah that's right call anyone who doesn't agree with the Israeli regime an antisemite.
Fact of the matter is you have an Jewish government, if you had a secular government the Palestinians would have no legitimate cause, but you don't, non-secular governments are morally wrong, and can never be fair.
If the Israelis fight for a secular goverment you might be able to break down barriers and finally have peace, and some day I hope the Israelis see the light, and join the civilised world.
mickstephenson 3 years ago
1948-League of Nations recognized Israel. Arabs didn't, waged wars & lost.Tough luck. Hamas charter intent on Israel's destruction. Revoked Oslo Accords & launched 6000 rockets after getting Gaza. Israeli government is secular. Israeli Arabs vote&represented in Kneset. Get the facts !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Secular by name perhaps, not by nature. A government which has different immigration laws based on what religion you are is not secular, get the facts!
mickstephenson 3 years ago
Why not spend your intellectual energy on banning trade with China for invading Tibet and horrific human rights violations or condemning Indonesia for starving 250,000 East Timoreans to death? Europe chose to do nothing but you & I will. I'm getting excited already. Oh, do hurry, will you?...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Bonkers. Completely.
PSmithFortyTwo 3 years ago
Israel offered %96 of the West bank to Arafat (Camp David). He said no & ordered the 2nd Intifada. What were English troops doing in The Falkland Islands? Subjugating North Ireland anyone? Quit being so self righteous. Don't preach to others what you don't practice at home.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Subjugating North Ireland" complete bullshit, the Catholic population in Northern (note the spelling) Ireland is in the minority. They wanted reuniting with Eire, but the majority population in NI did not. The Catholic population in Northern Ireland was never systematically subjugated by the British government, rather by their own neighbours. A problem which has largely improved. And in the Falklands the British were protecting the population of a sovereign territory.
mickstephenson 3 years ago
If Britain fought in the Falklands to protect sovereign territory, Israel's incursion into Gaza was in order to defend its sovereign territory (Israel proper) against 6000 rockets. The Falklands presented no existential threat to Britain. The rockets terrorized entire Israeli cities. What a difference...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
You obviously know nothing of the politics surrounding the Falklands War, or are purposefully distorting the truth. Either way using "Tu Quoque" is not a means on justification for a massacre of civilians. Especially when your examples are ridiculously poorly chosen.
mickstephenson 3 years ago
All my examples are indeed chosen. The "poorly' is your expedient prerogative. The Falkland war was a war. Anti war mongers should ban all wars or risk moral hypocrisy. There was no massacre in Gaza. There was a massacre in Bosnia. Europe did nothing. Don't preaching morals to others.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Nato pilots bombed Bosnia indiscriminately killing 10,000 innocent Bosnians. Ridiculous? "Poorly chosen"? Condemn Nato and Europe before others. Israel fights an enemy who is sworn to its destruction. 6000 rockets. The quintessential indiscriminate cluster bombs. Quit the hypocrisy
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
What would you do had your city received a daily barrage of indiscriminate rockets, traumatizing your kids who are forced to spend their nights in shelters? Hamas revoked Oslo Accords, received Gaza back and intent on Israel's destruction for religious reasons. No compromise. Please advise...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
In conclusion, your moral indignation is worthless unless based on objectivity,logic and factual corroboration. Selective sympathy renders its mongers as sinister merchants of pain and suffering. A slaughtered Bosnian child is worth the same as a Palestinian or an Israeli one. Have a jolly day !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Great Britain had no moral problems while bombing the living day light of Dresden in WW-2. No strategic value, none what so ever. No less than 25,000 innocent Germans were incinerated in a matter of seconds. What gives? Why the double standards? "Poorly chosen" ? Ignorance perhaps?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
You missed out Mers el Kebir, oh yeah and the Massacre of Glencoe, you could go back through time and pick out every regrettable action Britain has ever made in history and it wouldn't make any difference to the situation in Israel, clearly you didn't understand my "Tu Quoque" comment perhaps you should google it.
mickstephenson 3 years ago
I provided a whole slew of current examples which you depicted as "poorly chosen, ridiculous & purposely distorted". Now you add: antiquated to the list. Accusing is the easy part. Explaining how and why is trickier. You even described me as "ignorant". Why waste your time on idiots? like me?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Why waste your time on idiots? like me? "
Best point you made all day.
mickstephenson 3 years ago
Oh my God,thank you much for proving my point. A typical patronizing, self righteous and snobbish British response. I could not have asked for a better ending. Thank you again and good luck to you!
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
And thank you for proving the showing the Anti-British sentiment underlying the motivation for your posts
mickstephenson 3 years ago
My sentiments are dedicated to loathing hypocrisy, double standards, self righteousness & exporting values not practiced at home. Whether British, Svengali, Vietnamese or East Salvadorian. I don't underline. I say things as I see them & I practice my preaching at home. Take care
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
thenewsfarm,
"What gives? Why the double standards? "Poorly chosen" ? Ignorance perhaps?"
So what is your point???
Do you think that Israel should be allowed to bomb anyone because other nations have done something illegal in the past??
That would be crazy sir!!!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne---- Enemy doesn't recognize my right to exist (religious grounds), no peace, revoked Oslo Accords, got Gaza & launched 6000 indiscriminate " "clustered" rocket "bombs", terrorizing my city & traumatizing my shelter clad kids. Attack me & expect retaliation. Don't hide in schools because I'm coming after you. I don't wish to hurt no one BUT YOU !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"terrorizing my city & traumatizing my shelter clad kids"
Sir, are you American or Israeli?
"Enemy doesn't recognize my right to exist (religious grounds)"
Sir, Hitler and the Nazi's have been dead for a long time now.
"I don't wish to hurt no one BUT YOU !"
Sir, I never made threats against you!! Please refrain from this childish behaviour. Lets talk like men.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne----At any rate, in light of symmetrical vs asymmetrical warfare, I will recommend Israeli military to donate %50 of its weaponry to Hamas as well as complimentary training. This will make our conflict perfectly legal and definitely fair. Wouldn't you say?
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"I will recommend Israeli military to donate %50 of its weaponry to Hamas"
Don't be so silly sir, no one is saying that!!!!
Are you aware of the IRA conflict we had in the UK?? The conflict between the IRA and the UK ended when both sides sat down at the table and negotiatied.
I would suggest that Israel at least try and negotiate with Hamas to bring peace to the region. But before this both Israel and Hamas must respect the cease fire. That is reasonable don't you think?
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne---Gaza T.V broadcasts "Kill Jews" Mickey Mouse cartoons for religious indoctrination of next generations. Toddlers made to wear suicide vests for halloween. 73 heaven clad virgins await each suicide bomber. Religious fanaticism etched into local DNA. IRA closer to an Ester Bunny than these fanatically religious killing machines .
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
Tzimne---"Do you think that Israel should be allowed to bomb anyone because other nations have done something illegal in the past??"------There are 2 kinds of morality: one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach----Hypocrisy (the ugliest kind)
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"There are 2 kinds of morality: one which we preach but do not practice and another which we practice but seldom preach----Hypocrisy (the ugliest kind)"
I agree the US, UK and Israel along with other countries carry out this hypocrisy on a daily basis. Look at this illegal war we are fighting in Iraq. Our two countries US and UK seem to be making enemy's faster then we can make friends.
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
Tzimne----Remember the infamous "Janin Janin" docudrama entailing presumed massacre of 600 civilians by Israel?-Well, guess what..U.N. inquiry revealed only 50 armed fighters dead. A complete hoax. Total fabrication. Nada. Zilch. What massacre? Are you kidding me? So much for Palestinian propaganda.
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
"Are you kidding me? So much for Palestinian propaganda."
Sir, I am confused since you are throwing this at me like I was the one who said it.
Lets get one thing straight before we continue further. I am Anti-Zionist. I am Anti-Israel.
Being one or both of these has no connection with your religion. I respect your right to believe in any God you wish you choose. I myself am Athiest and so I tend to leave religion out of it completely.
This issue I have with Israel is justified under Law!!
Tzimnewman3 3 years ago
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In conclusion, your moral indignation is worthless unless based on objectivity,logic and factual corroboration. Selective sympathy renders its mongers as sinister merchants of pain and suffering. A slaughtered Bosnian child is worth the same as a Palestinian or an Israeli one. Have a jolly day !
thenewsfarm 3 years ago
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Two Champaign Socialists interviewing each other... Priceless!
jonesstrikesback 3 years ago
good as mine (pardon me one more spelling error)
19aa91 3 years ago
Haha, "news channel" can't even spell his name, he's only been around for about 83 years.
Iain1962 3 years ago
well I guess your attention span is as good as me.
if you watch at 2:27 they correct the spelling error.
I hope you paid attention to the content of the interview as carefully as you read.
19aa91 3 years ago
Indeed I did, I appreciate Mr Wedgewood Benn greatly, I don't always agree with what he says but at least he speaks some semblance of the truth although he may not interpret it the same way I do, I appreciate him greatly.
Iain1962 3 years ago
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Were was Tony when Russia butchered 100,000 Muslim Chechens in Grozny? or when Europe stood idle while Serbs butchered Muslim Bosnians? Selective Sympathy anyone? Nah...Self righteousness/? Nah... not Tony, no way...
thenewsfarm 3 years ago