This has to be one of the dumbest youtube conversations I have ever heard. Why is it hypocritical to communicate on the internet about peak oil? I can't believe that you even think his point is valid if you aren't "preparing" for peak oil (which is impossible). Does he want a bunch of people to walk to a cave naked to discuss peak oil? The guy is fucking idiot.
Exactly my point. The only reason I wasn't as blunt as you was so that I could give some context of what "peak oil" is and just follow the average format for a pwnage video. I do agree, though, that he deserves about the response you gave to his overall opinion.
Honestly, I'm not sure I'm even smart enough to have been quite as concise as you were just now. It didn't even occur to me until just now when I read that.
Please critique my next pwnage of this asshole ^^.
I'm not sure. There are some issues with the file format or something and the original is kinda glitchy. I'm going to be remaking it alot better sometime just because I'd like it be viewed as best possible because I worked so hard on it.
I saw his video too, and it is a bit stupid to say the least. As an individual the amount of oil you use by using a computer is insignificant. The amount of oil as an individual you use while driving is the most significant. Why do people nit pick the small stuff, its stupid. It is like being worried about a small tree when a forest is being bulldozed!
There will NOT be a colapse necessarily if people reduce their driving. We should be looking to places like Amsterdam, and Copenhagen, for inspiration on how to use bicycles more. That is the best thing we can do. Talking about keyboards etc, is rediculous because it is insignificant.
The biggest thing people can do to counter the decline in oil production, is to ride a bicycle instead of drive, keyboards, the internet, and equipment, is nothing compared to the impact of burning the oil through driving.
While its interesting to talk bout the things that oil is used for, and yes it is used for a good deal of things, the main use of oil presently is in transport. Sure, oil is used for a computer keyboard, but that is a drop in the bucket compared to what is used for transport. Peaking, as you know does not mean running out, it means peaking followed by a decline.The biggest thing people can do is DRIVE A CAR LESS!
@KrunchyJD I believe that if all goes well, we will still use oil. But in the future people will look back at the things we do and say "you burnt that stuff"
Driving a car less doesn't work well when our paradigm is based on growth in every way. In turn, no matter what we do, our economy calls for more oil to be used in every way. So, in the end, the peak alone spells an economic collapse like we've never seen while the decline will be even worse if we continue to cling to our current paradigm instead of working toward the realization of the next one before it forced upon us by said collapse.
So personally I think driving less probably isn't enough.
@VarmitC Copenhagen, is said to be one of the best cities in the world to live in, and this is despite the weather. 37% of trips are made by bicycle. We can still have good lives if we have more urbanism (people living in cities), and more trips undertaken by bike. I now take most trips by bike, and despite the idiot motorists I prefer to ride a bike then drive.
@VarmitC It's a good point, but the paradigm of growth, also works with services. Continuing growth can require the growing extraction of more resources. However, if we extract less resources, but have better, more sophisticated service delivery could still involve growth of sorts. Denmark enjoys a higher standard of living then the US, BUT, they use bicycles much more.
Oh and by the by.. I'd also say the whole "hypocrisy" issue is moot - I mean if you read the studies of people who REALLY try to live renewable non-oil lives - with solar panels, 100% recycling or biodegradable, heating with sunlight, growing their own vegetables, making their own toothpaste, etc. Well they still use oil products, and oil or coal was used in producing many of the things they have. In a no-choice situation it's not wrong to admit we need to change - need a tech change.
Exactly my point. That's why I ask so many times how else I am meant to spread this information without being a hypocrite by his standards...because by his standards it's impossible, making his standard retarded.
We really do. I actually found a much better clip from The End Of Suburbia that I should have used instead of the one I did. 27:00 into the movie would have been much better. Lemme know what'ch'a think. I may reupload this video with that clip in it instead.
Not necessarilly sitting on a server using oil. Checkout Google server farm video. They are really efficient. They can pull power from bloom boxes. They also have a patent for flotilla server farms in the ocean that pull 100% energy from wind, waves and solar. They also have a geothermal project in the works. They're one of the only companies I know of that is finding non oil energy source. Your internet provider is using oil to power it's utilities however.
@LaplaceTransformMan i beg to differ, google data centres may be "green" and efficient but in all fairness no one really knows where all of googles data centers are our videos may not be stored on a centre that is run from clean energy. youtube requires such a large amount of storage that it is probably impractical at the moment to use only clean energy unlike google checkout which is just a big database(yeah i know over simplified) and has a lot less users.
@spexbeanfarmer I guess. Everything uses oil or was made using something that used or was made using oil. One issue is storing renewable energy. Battery tech is really bad and scalable ethanol production would be completely destroyed by corporate interests and politicsSame thing with scalable green plastics. Nobody is going to be able to navigate through corporate interest without getting destroyed in some way Paying taxes is funding processes that use oil I guess you could register as an Amish
@spexbeanfarmer Even with that you are going to need salts for a well system that used oil to be produced. One would use oil by consuming resources that used oil in any sort of medical emergency. Being independent from oil in case of a collapse is different though. You can have products that were made from oil and reduce direct consumption. Prices for anything using oil to be made would sky rocket though.
Or, maybe he was trying to get you to stop talking about peak oil (thats funny) or maybe it was to 'school' you for some Lulz, but despite what his motives may be and despite yours, I just do not see a point to any of it at all because nothing can and will change from how they are now, but nice video response but i still feel the need to *facepaw* Much love keep up the good videos
He wants me to admit to being a hypocrite for talking about this stuff on YouTube, and he wanted to school me for the lulz. He's a troll and has been appropriately pwned.
I will say my personal thoughts on all this, What the fuck... I am finding it hard to even understanding the point, was he some how trying to get you to stop using all oil, we are so dependent on it now it would be impossible to be completely free of it and still live but you can reduce the amount of wants and live with only your needs.
You are supposed to talk about peak oil in the forest as you gnaw on the bark of a oak tree for sustenance. Yep! that'll work.
I just love these "why are using a _______ then" types. As if we have any other realistic options. Don't they get it? The near ABSOLUTE monopoly of oil for energy needs neccessitates the use oil products to warn people of the danger. THAT"S THE WHOLE PROBLEM!
@VarmitC Yeah I saw that... however I hit my daily quota for arguing with willful stupidity earlier today so he's all yours (lucky you!). However if it's any consolation you just gained a new subscriber here at least.
peak oil is not a term I have heard before (though I realised that we were well past the biggest oil finds ofc) but i thought you made a strong defence of your position (though it took me a few mins of the video to work out what your position was tbh)
I appreciate it. Yeah, we are well passed the peak of global oil discovery at this point and likely at the peak of oil production, according to all the evidence I've seen.
my hat goes off to you, if i had one, i do still think it is ironic to make any sort of environmental videos be they about peek oil or anything else online as the power + oil useage is so high but well done.
its like saying the tree's are running out, and having your warning printed in the press. making the complaint that you shouldnt give the message on products made by wood, doesnt invalidate the message itself.
True. My point is that this goes a step even farther than that because everything, as I said, takes oil to make. So there is no alternative, save walking or using a buggy to get to place where large numbers of people gather and telling them by word of mouth. So, for all practical purposes, by Spex's standards, everyone who informs others about peak oil is a hypocrite.
@VarmitC yeah mine is bigger than yours :P lololol one point i did want to make though is that you speak of leaving the net but if your so passionate about this why are you using it now why not just cancel your subsciption now? or if there are other members of you household that use the net why not just allow them to use it and you abstain as it is like you have said yourself such a big user of oil and you have made it clear you want to live without it or at least cut your useage!
I'm not paying for the internet. My parents are. I just use it as well. My father wants to move us back to the country, but my mom doesn't believe in peak oil, nor that it's sever enough that we should start to make changes of any kind. My father and I are doing it on our own at this point. I lack the money to do it independently of him, and he is emotionally anchored to my mom.
@VarmitC its still using oil? regardless on the amount of subs, also your net connection goes of what you use as a whole not just youtube but facebook twitter and other site. These videos are still on a disk connected to a machine that is on 24/7 (-maintenance) same with faceache, the amount they are watched has nothing todo with it. the amount of time the server is up does, also you uploading a video could be the difference between a new disk being added or a new server
Yet again, by your standard, everyone, including you, is a hypocrite if they talk about this stuff. With that universal standard in mind, it is moot and no longer hypocritical. At least I hold myself to that reasonable standard while you are hypocritical by your own standard.
I'm perfectly willing to leave this subject, but you keep bringing it up. Maybe you should stop commenting and adding to the oil consumption so you'll be less of a hypocrite (according to your stanards)
@VarmitC no preach (def: speak, plead, or argue in favor of;) which is what you are doing i made a verbal fuck up in my vid which is why i was willing to conceded but my point is still valid. its like a anti gay minister being caught with a rent boy dont you see the connection?
@VarmitC you claim you are not preaching but you clearly are, i defined the word preaching above, in my video i said that the net was not the place to talk about peek oil or the environment due to the impact it has, i should have said preach. the connection i was trying to make here with the minister and the rent boy was your preaching of the dwindling oil supplies and yet using a lot of oil to spread this message.
I am preaching. Yet, my active attempts to stop using oil and live a sustainable life are, like I've said, the variables that make me specifically not hypocritical. I already said this. I never disputed that I was preaching. I'm simply continuing to use oil as I always have while I implement my plans. Again, did you not watch the video?
Your argument that it is hypocritical has already been pwned. You admitted it. And I even said I AM preaching. So, what are you trying to say? I don't understand.
@VarmitC plans plans plans, i plan to vlog all the time i never get round to it, make an active step if your so passionate about the subject leave youtube stop posting, delete your account, sell your computer, dont put off till tomorrow what you can do today. how long is it going to take for your plans to come to fruition? one month, six months, one year, two years, five years? think of all that oil you've wasted in that time uploading yourself spinning a stick around or mirroring your some vid.
"dont put off till tomorrow what you can do today." I have no money. I can't do anything yet. I'm working on getting money and implementing my plans any other way I can, such as helping my dad with yard work to make our garden and maybe sell produce to help raise more money for equipment we will need in the next few years as we constantly make steps toward this goal. I will be going to college and using my military education benefits to make money while working as well, and all for this.
@VarmitC well cut down on oil usage now as i have pointed out your vids take up space, if you dont uses your PC/Laptop that will cut down on the amount of oil as well your the one into this stuff you should know this really.
@VarmitC4:35, i think ive made it clear that it is hypocritical, i doesnt matter how many people watch your video as i have stated before, what matters is that the video is sitting on a server using oil, if no one is watching it that is surly worse as its just wasting it...
6:02 again like i have said you are not taking actions you have made plans, of which you have not put into practice yet.
so how have you pwnd me on three levels? you have only given me two points here.
4:35 Even if it was hypocritical for me, it doesn't matter. Did you not watch the clip?
6:02 I am taking actions. Please stop lying by saying I claim not to preach and that I'm not taking actions. I have plans that I can not fully realize for a few years because of how drastic they are, but I'm making every change that I can and doing the work that I can to help my other family members.
So, you call me hypocritical. Yet, it's only mildly ironic, if you aren't taking actions based on your knowledge, and it's only hypocritical if you also preach on YouTube. So, since I am taking actions and am preaching, it's not hypocritical, not to mention that being hypocritical, as the 4:35 clip points out, doesn't matter. So...three levels. (1) It's not ironic, (2) it's not hypocritical, and even if it was, (3) it wouldn't matter.
It's not hypocritical to use all while warning that one day oil will run out. Hypocritical would be if he said "don't use oil at all, in no circumstances". And then use it. Or if he said "don't use computers" while using one. If he's advocated for a reduction in oil use and that a move to other energy sources is necessary - well that's what he is doing, it's not hypocrisy.
This has to be one of the dumbest youtube conversations I have ever heard. Why is it hypocritical to communicate on the internet about peak oil? I can't believe that you even think his point is valid if you aren't "preparing" for peak oil (which is impossible). Does he want a bunch of people to walk to a cave naked to discuss peak oil? The guy is fucking idiot.
christo930 11 months ago
Exactly my point. The only reason I wasn't as blunt as you was so that I could give some context of what "peak oil" is and just follow the average format for a pwnage video. I do agree, though, that he deserves about the response you gave to his overall opinion.
Honestly, I'm not sure I'm even smart enough to have been quite as concise as you were just now. It didn't even occur to me until just now when I read that.
Please critique my next pwnage of this asshole ^^.
VarmitC 11 months ago
@VarmitC Thanks.
christo930 11 months ago
ha nice win dude you rock. funny thought he's saying all of this about your usage of things made of oil when he himself is aswell =^_^=
TrueDeath46 1 year ago
ANy reason why after 2:24 the video freezes and I cant seem to get any more of it?.....
Palendrome69 1 year ago
I'm not sure. There are some issues with the file format or something and the original is kinda glitchy. I'm going to be remaking it alot better sometime just because I'd like it be viewed as best possible because I worked so hard on it.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@Palendrome69 it's because your computer ran out of oil.
LiberaLib 1 day ago
your video is amazing quality
do0me0nice 1 year ago
I appreciate that. This video is honestly my pride and joy. I worked really hard on it.
VarmitC 1 year ago
I saw his video too, and it is a bit stupid to say the least. As an individual the amount of oil you use by using a computer is insignificant. The amount of oil as an individual you use while driving is the most significant. Why do people nit pick the small stuff, its stupid. It is like being worried about a small tree when a forest is being bulldozed!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
Again, I agree completely.
VarmitC 1 year ago
If people drive less, the oil will last longer.
There will NOT be a colapse necessarily if people reduce their driving. We should be looking to places like Amsterdam, and Copenhagen, for inspiration on how to use bicycles more. That is the best thing we can do. Talking about keyboards etc, is rediculous because it is insignificant.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
I agree.
VarmitC 1 year ago
The biggest thing people can do to counter the decline in oil production, is to ride a bicycle instead of drive, keyboards, the internet, and equipment, is nothing compared to the impact of burning the oil through driving.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
While its interesting to talk bout the things that oil is used for, and yes it is used for a good deal of things, the main use of oil presently is in transport. Sure, oil is used for a computer keyboard, but that is a drop in the bucket compared to what is used for transport. Peaking, as you know does not mean running out, it means peaking followed by a decline.The biggest thing people can do is DRIVE A CAR LESS!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD I believe that if all goes well, we will still use oil. But in the future people will look back at the things we do and say "you burnt that stuff"
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
Driving a car less doesn't work well when our paradigm is based on growth in every way. In turn, no matter what we do, our economy calls for more oil to be used in every way. So, in the end, the peak alone spells an economic collapse like we've never seen while the decline will be even worse if we continue to cling to our current paradigm instead of working toward the realization of the next one before it forced upon us by said collapse.
So personally I think driving less probably isn't enough.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC Copenhagen, is said to be one of the best cities in the world to live in, and this is despite the weather. 37% of trips are made by bicycle. We can still have good lives if we have more urbanism (people living in cities), and more trips undertaken by bike. I now take most trips by bike, and despite the idiot motorists I prefer to ride a bike then drive.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
I walk everywhere ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC It's a good point, but the paradigm of growth, also works with services. Continuing growth can require the growing extraction of more resources. However, if we extract less resources, but have better, more sophisticated service delivery could still involve growth of sorts. Denmark enjoys a higher standard of living then the US, BUT, they use bicycles much more.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
If only the U.S. would incorporate these better systems.
VarmitC 1 year ago
Oh and by the by.. I'd also say the whole "hypocrisy" issue is moot - I mean if you read the studies of people who REALLY try to live renewable non-oil lives - with solar panels, 100% recycling or biodegradable, heating with sunlight, growing their own vegetables, making their own toothpaste, etc. Well they still use oil products, and oil or coal was used in producing many of the things they have. In a no-choice situation it's not wrong to admit we need to change - need a tech change.
8DX 1 year ago
Exactly my point. That's why I ask so many times how else I am meant to spread this information without being a hypocrite by his standards...because by his standards it's impossible, making his standard retarded.
VarmitC 1 year ago
life after growth
iancarrr 1 year ago
Life after growth...? Is that another documentary?
VarmitC 1 year ago
I already agree. The end of suburbia is a great film
iancarrr 1 year ago
Amen. I was just sticking with A Crude Awakening at the time when I edited this together.
VarmitC 1 year ago
We really need to make a peak oil video with the two of us discussing back and forth.
iancarrr 1 year ago
We really do. I actually found a much better clip from The End Of Suburbia that I should have used instead of the one I did. 27:00 into the movie would have been much better. Lemme know what'ch'a think. I may reupload this video with that clip in it instead.
VarmitC 1 year ago
Not necessarilly sitting on a server using oil. Checkout Google server farm video. They are really efficient. They can pull power from bloom boxes. They also have a patent for flotilla server farms in the ocean that pull 100% energy from wind, waves and solar. They also have a geothermal project in the works. They're one of the only companies I know of that is finding non oil energy source. Your internet provider is using oil to power it's utilities however.
LaplaceTransformMan 1 year ago
@LaplaceTransformMan i beg to differ, google data centres may be "green" and efficient but in all fairness no one really knows where all of googles data centers are our videos may not be stored on a centre that is run from clean energy. youtube requires such a large amount of storage that it is probably impractical at the moment to use only clean energy unlike google checkout which is just a big database(yeah i know over simplified) and has a lot less users.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer I guess. Everything uses oil or was made using something that used or was made using oil. One issue is storing renewable energy. Battery tech is really bad and scalable ethanol production would be completely destroyed by corporate interests and politicsSame thing with scalable green plastics. Nobody is going to be able to navigate through corporate interest without getting destroyed in some way Paying taxes is funding processes that use oil I guess you could register as an Amish
LaplaceTransformMan 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer Even with that you are going to need salts for a well system that used oil to be produced. One would use oil by consuming resources that used oil in any sort of medical emergency. Being independent from oil in case of a collapse is different though. You can have products that were made from oil and reduce direct consumption. Prices for anything using oil to be made would sky rocket though.
LaplaceTransformMan 1 year ago
So, according to Spex's logic and "reasoning", only the Amish community can talk about Peak Oil.
AstraVex 1 year ago
Basically...At least, they're the only ones who can do it and not be hypocrites.
VarmitC 1 year ago
Or, maybe he was trying to get you to stop talking about peak oil (thats funny) or maybe it was to 'school' you for some Lulz, but despite what his motives may be and despite yours, I just do not see a point to any of it at all because nothing can and will change from how they are now, but nice video response but i still feel the need to *facepaw* Much love keep up the good videos
weisenwolf 1 year ago
He wants me to admit to being a hypocrite for talking about this stuff on YouTube, and he wanted to school me for the lulz. He's a troll and has been appropriately pwned.
VarmitC 1 year ago
I will say my personal thoughts on all this, What the fuck... I am finding it hard to even understanding the point, was he some how trying to get you to stop using all oil, we are so dependent on it now it would be impossible to be completely free of it and still live but you can reduce the amount of wants and live with only your needs.
weisenwolf 1 year ago
Don't you get it VarmitC?
You are supposed to talk about peak oil in the forest as you gnaw on the bark of a oak tree for sustenance. Yep! that'll work.
I just love these "why are using a _______ then" types. As if we have any other realistic options. Don't they get it? The near ABSOLUTE monopoly of oil for energy needs neccessitates the use oil products to warn people of the danger. THAT"S THE WHOLE PROBLEM!
WhirlingWolves 1 year ago
Just look lower at how he is (basically) trying to ignore the whole video. It's amazing, the discipline of stupidity.
VarmitC 1 year ago
And thanks for the sub ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC Yeah I saw that... however I hit my daily quota for arguing with willful stupidity earlier today so he's all yours (lucky you!). However if it's any consolation you just gained a new subscriber here at least.
WhirlingWolves 1 year ago
WHY are there so many seemingly intelligent people so confused about such seemingly simple concepts?
IS his righteous attitude blocking his common sense mechanism?
WHAT if any, is the evolutionary benefit of this form of mental partitioning?
whyiswhat 1 year ago
1) I'm not sure.
2) Most likely. That's my guess, anyway.
3) Good question ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
peak oil is not a term I have heard before (though I realised that we were well past the biggest oil finds ofc) but i thought you made a strong defence of your position (though it took me a few mins of the video to work out what your position was tbh)
Enjoyed it and you presented it well!
noelplum99 1 year ago
I appreciate it. Yeah, we are well passed the peak of global oil discovery at this point and likely at the peak of oil production, according to all the evidence I've seen.
VarmitC 1 year ago
Oh, by the way, loved your video on the whole Dawafilms, Thunderf00t thing. Great summation. ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
good video. I think the internet is a good tool for getting information out. it is better than driving door to door.
switchgrassfuel 1 year ago
Amen ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
well done good sir :) pwnd i am.
my hat goes off to you, if i had one, i do still think it is ironic to make any sort of environmental videos be they about peek oil or anything else online as the power + oil useage is so high but well done.
i consider myself pwnd!
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
I accept your concession. ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
its like saying the tree's are running out, and having your warning printed in the press. making the complaint that you shouldnt give the message on products made by wood, doesnt invalidate the message itself.
chthonios 1 year ago
True. My point is that this goes a step even farther than that because everything, as I said, takes oil to make. So there is no alternative, save walking or using a buggy to get to place where large numbers of people gather and telling them by word of mouth. So, for all practical purposes, by Spex's standards, everyone who informs others about peak oil is a hypocrite.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC indeed
"You told me by computer, so your peak oil message is hipocritical"
answer
"Of course I used a compter to tell you, computer users use computers as their main news source"
wait for the penny to drop. could be awhile.
chthonios 1 year ago
I should still send this video to him so he knows about it. He probably still won't understand it.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC im subed to you remember?
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
Oops, forgot ^^;
VarmitC 1 year ago
Well, if we don't have solar and hydro-power in the future, we can always just rub Spex's MASSIVE hair enough to generate some Kinetic power.
I'm sure he wouldn't mind, ya know....caring about the environment and all? =)
AstraVex 1 year ago
Shit, if only we could convert ego into power...that'd work even better.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC yeah mine is bigger than yours :P lololol one point i did want to make though is that you speak of leaving the net but if your so passionate about this why are you using it now why not just cancel your subsciption now? or if there are other members of you household that use the net why not just allow them to use it and you abstain as it is like you have said yourself such a big user of oil and you have made it clear you want to live without it or at least cut your useage!
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
I'm not paying for the internet. My parents are. I just use it as well. My father wants to move us back to the country, but my mom doesn't believe in peak oil, nor that it's sever enough that we should start to make changes of any kind. My father and I are doing it on our own at this point. I lack the money to do it independently of him, and he is emotionally anchored to my mom.
VarmitC 1 year ago
"why not just allow them to use it and you abstain as...you have made it clear you want to live without it or at least cut your useage!"
6:35 I covered this.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC its still using oil? regardless on the amount of subs, also your net connection goes of what you use as a whole not just youtube but facebook twitter and other site. These videos are still on a disk connected to a machine that is on 24/7 (-maintenance) same with faceache, the amount they are watched has nothing todo with it. the amount of time the server is up does, also you uploading a video could be the difference between a new disk being added or a new server
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer being switched on and its all adding to the oil consumption collectively.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer Gaia thinks i have conceded to soon im starting to agree actually...
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
*Shrugs* And...?
VarmitC 1 year ago
Yet again, by your standard, everyone, including you, is a hypocrite if they talk about this stuff. With that universal standard in mind, it is moot and no longer hypocritical. At least I hold myself to that reasonable standard while you are hypocritical by your own standard.
VarmitC 1 year ago
I'm perfectly willing to leave this subject, but you keep bringing it up. Maybe you should stop commenting and adding to the oil consumption so you'll be less of a hypocrite (according to your stanards)
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC no preach (def: speak, plead, or argue in favor of;) which is what you are doing i made a verbal fuck up in my vid which is why i was willing to conceded but my point is still valid. its like a anti gay minister being caught with a rent boy dont you see the connection?
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
Can you please type well so I can understand you?
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC you claim you are not preaching but you clearly are, i defined the word preaching above, in my video i said that the net was not the place to talk about peek oil or the environment due to the impact it has, i should have said preach. the connection i was trying to make here with the minister and the rent boy was your preaching of the dwindling oil supplies and yet using a lot of oil to spread this message.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
Where did I say I am not preaching?
I am preaching. Yet, my active attempts to stop using oil and live a sustainable life are, like I've said, the variables that make me specifically not hypocritical. I already said this. I never disputed that I was preaching. I'm simply continuing to use oil as I always have while I implement my plans. Again, did you not watch the video?
VarmitC 1 year ago
Your argument that it is hypocritical has already been pwned. You admitted it. And I even said I AM preaching. So, what are you trying to say? I don't understand.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC plans plans plans, i plan to vlog all the time i never get round to it, make an active step if your so passionate about the subject leave youtube stop posting, delete your account, sell your computer, dont put off till tomorrow what you can do today. how long is it going to take for your plans to come to fruition? one month, six months, one year, two years, five years? think of all that oil you've wasted in that time uploading yourself spinning a stick around or mirroring your some vid.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer personally i dont want you to leave youtube, i enjoy this stuff. its fun i like our argument haha.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
"dont put off till tomorrow what you can do today." I have no money. I can't do anything yet. I'm working on getting money and implementing my plans any other way I can, such as helping my dad with yard work to make our garden and maybe sell produce to help raise more money for equipment we will need in the next few years as we constantly make steps toward this goal. I will be going to college and using my military education benefits to make money while working as well, and all for this.
VarmitC 1 year ago
I will ask again...what else can I do?
VarmitC 1 year ago
Maybe you should watch the video again and re-realize how pwned you are.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC well cut down on oil usage now as i have pointed out your vids take up space, if you dont uses your PC/Laptop that will cut down on the amount of oil as well your the one into this stuff you should know this really.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
Again...maybe you should watch the video again and re-realize just how pwned your entire argument is on three different levels.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC please can you spell it out for me? as i cannot see it.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
4:35
6:02
VarmitC 1 year ago
@VarmitC 4:35, i think ive made it clear that it is hypocritical, i doesnt matter how many people watch your video as i have stated before, what matters is that the video is sitting on a server using oil, if no one is watching it that is surly worse as its just wasting it...
6:02 again like i have said you are not taking actions you have made plans, of which you have not put into practice yet.
so how have you pwnd me on three levels? you have only given me two points here.
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
4:35 Even if it was hypocritical for me, it doesn't matter. Did you not watch the clip?
6:02 I am taking actions. Please stop lying by saying I claim not to preach and that I'm not taking actions. I have plans that I can not fully realize for a few years because of how drastic they are, but I'm making every change that I can and doing the work that I can to help my other family members.
VarmitC 1 year ago
So, you call me hypocritical. Yet, it's only mildly ironic, if you aren't taking actions based on your knowledge, and it's only hypocritical if you also preach on YouTube. So, since I am taking actions and am preaching, it's not hypocritical, not to mention that being hypocritical, as the 4:35 clip points out, doesn't matter. So...three levels. (1) It's not ironic, (2) it's not hypocritical, and even if it was, (3) it wouldn't matter.
VarmitC 1 year ago
I feel stupid for you for even having to spell this shit out for you. Either you truly are a moron, or you are just ignoring everything I've said.
VarmitC 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer
It's not hypocritical to use all while warning that one day oil will run out. Hypocritical would be if he said "don't use oil at all, in no circumstances". And then use it. Or if he said "don't use computers" while using one. If he's advocated for a reduction in oil use and that a move to other energy sources is necessary - well that's what he is doing, it's not hypocrisy.
8DX 1 year ago
You put it much better than I ever thought to. Thank you. Irrefutable fucking logic ^^
VarmitC 1 year ago
@AstraVex static you mean static Philip, but yeah broke jays mobo today :S although that could have been the thunderstorm
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer
Ah, Yes! I have no idea why I said "kinetic". It's 1am. Why am I not sleeping?!
Seriously, You broke a mobile phone with JUST your hair? That is SKILL! =D
AstraVex 1 year ago
@AstraVex his computer motherboard MoBo (slang term)
spexbeanfarmer 1 year ago
@spexbeanfarmer
Hmm, never heard of that. Sorry, I'm not "down with the slang term, dawg."
AstraVex 1 year ago