Herbert Hoover

[mav92604]

i know :( im doing a report on him too and he was such a good kid

[mav92604]

IM RELATED TO HIM!!!!

[springjo1]

@mav92604 Wow! Are you serious?! In what way?!

[mav92604]

@springjo1 something like my moms moms dads moms husband i think

[springjo1]

@mav92604 Wow. It's ashame that he gets so much blame for the Great Depression when the fact of the matter is the crash of the stock market was already the inevitable by the time he came into office.

[crispy1995]

Can you say run-on sentence?

[guyfroml]

Hell, by the time Obama finished, he's going to make W's deficit look like buying a 10 cent candy bar. Everything is good or bad by comparison - when Obie is finished screwing up everything, then we'll see that W might not have been so bad after all.

It's early in the game, pal...you're not even near the end of the 1st quarter. We'll see how this president who has never run anything in his life is going to do. Like the blind man said...we'll see.

[guyfroml]

frc1968,

Don't be so sure history is going to agree with you. After all, can you point out anything that was so bad about the Bush administration. Oh, Iraq? Screw that! That's nothing more than personal opionion. But let's go to the stats, shall we? Bush inherited a shitty economy - even liberals admit that - then pulled in out of consecutive recession, had strong growth, low unemployment, gave rebates back to all. Things turned in last few months and we know the deficit went to Iraq.

[frc1968]

@guyfroml- Excuse me sir but it is obvious *you* are the one who knows little about history. Many of the programs that FDR instituted helped the individual. Hoover did not believe in helping the individual. Hoover was willing to use the federal government to assist business and industry but felt to extend the same to private citizens was "socialistic." Further one can see your political leanings by your statements and to assume that I favor Obama is your own folly.

[guyfroml]

@frc1968 I made that comment over a year ago...God, it's making me look like more of an expert than the idiots that come on TV.

[frc1968]

I'm sure that Hoover, Coolidge, Nixon, Buchanan and Pierce where ever they may be are breathing a sigh of relief now that George W. Bush has joined their ranks as a former president as well as one of the worst of all time.

[PhoenixMaudlin]

Calvin Coolidge was probably the single greatest President of the 20th century.

[ourananastasia]

Nixon was a great President, he only got caught cheating. However, he did great things for foreign relations.

[Sleeper99999]

@ourananastasia I think a few million Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians would disagree. Or would, if Nixon hadn't blown them to smithereens.

[ourananastasia]

@Sleeper99999 You are absolutely right, my views about many things has changed since then.

[BobSmashdotcom]

@frc1968 worst of all time? You need to look at the awesome improvements he made to the economy before the housing bubble burst and the outright leadership he displayed putting his political future on the line to do what he thought was right - and I'm sure your leaving Obama and Carter off your list was just an oversight. Reading your comment about Hoover I can already tell you don't know squat about history - Hoover actually pioneered a lot of the programs FDR is known for.

[skyydawg123]

I will give him credit, he really did work day and night trying to fix the problem, including weekends. He really was quite concerned, his hair had turned white by his administrations end. And he had lost a bunch of weight. But I do not like it when historians and critics, try to blame the problem on President Coolidge. The country enjoyed enormous prosperity under Silent Cal, and we will never know how things would have turned out had he chosen to run in 1928.

[frc1968]

Herbert Hoover, as most all Republicans always are, was willing to give government assistance to corporate America but no direct relief to the common man. FDR on the other hand did the opposite which is why he was elected 4 times while Hoover was chased from office after only one term. To be fair, Hoover was Louis XVI to Coolidge's Louis XV. Coolidge's hands off approach to big business set up the disaster. Hoover just didn't know how to deal with the deluge once it occurred.

[1RedshirtXLG]

Herbert Hoover has got to be one of the most misunderstood presidents ever.

He was a good man.

[poodtang1]

The great depression was too big and complex to blame on one man or president. This is what happens when finace Wall st. banks etc. are aloud to do business unchecked without government oversight.

[bensonrt]

Always have, always will; get over it.

News, just in. Govt controls federal spending, borrowing, marginal income rate, discount rate and reserve rate.

Why do Lobbyists work so hard to influence GOVT policies?

Why does Wall St in a tizzy when monetary policy changes?

Presidents will always bask in the Good News and their press secretaries use your lame excuse to "SPIN" the Bad News.

LEADERSHIP:

How many bank failures/bank bailouts... before we fit Bush/McCain with Mr. Hoover's wardrobe?

[bensonrt]

YES it was. Or do you blame Coolidge???

If you wish to give credit to Presidents for the good times;

then they have taken the HEAT for the BAD times.... when they were too timid to take action.... Leadership prevents/curtails the excesses.

Most morons thought BALANCING the budget would solve the Great Depression... some still do.

[bensonrt]

Jimmy Carter is also a GOOD & SMART PERSON that got screwed by circumstances and the wrong leadership style for the times....

He appointed Paul Volcker to solve inflation.. Volcker did but it cost Carter his re-election...

Reagan was short on smarts, but long on leadership style... and now people want carve his face on Mt. Rushmore....

[MIKESOWELL]

@bensonrt  There's a lot of truth to what you said...

[timbosforporn]

Then if presidents do get the credit for good times then it is a complete lie because in a economic system that is not regulated or controlled by the govt then govt policy should have no effect. Unfortunately, this country has adopted the mentalitly that the economy is "managed" so now the president gets the blame and the credit depending on how things go.

[robinsoncobb]

Usually, economic downturns are because of market forces.

[bensonrt]

Hey wait! "Markets" are prefect as they always "self correct"

Lets re-write History and say all those "Hoovervilles" shanty towns created 1929-1932 was merely "market self corrections."

Live the dream Gentlemen, Re-write the Great Depression, WWII, and the Holocaust out existence....

[robinsoncobb]

Market forces are a starting point. Regulations should come in to assist.

[Pectoris4]

JD, thank you for your defense of Mr. Hoover. You have summarized the situation quite well. On the other hand, "ben" is obviously unaware of the facts,especially with regard to his exoneration of Coolidge, who did nothing during his term to prevent the economic disaster from coming, yet was lucky enough to escape the blame by retiring from the Presidency and leaving the mess to Herbert Hoover,who worked day and night for four long years to try to ameliorate the Depression.

[Goes40us]

All of the New Deal projects that worked, were already created by Hoover, e.g. the Emergency Relief and Construction Act, the Federal Home Loan Bank, huge increase in the Public Building Program, the Reconstruction Finanace Corporation, and other. He had a Native American V.P., and formulated what Roosevelt would use as the Good Neighbor policy. Hoover gets a bum rap since he was the brains behind what FDR, would claim to be his own. Really a great Humanitarian Prez.

[medamine39]

Too bad that that skilled surveying mining Engineer didn't succeed to put an end to the Depression.

[colonicvillus]

he certainly didn't live up to his predecessor. fdr as all time best president? yeah right. the internment camps in world war 2, he made the holding of gold illegal, he tried to repeal the second amendment....fdr was one of the worst...the new deal destroyed our currency

[boeingLL747]

reagan was the all time best presidant. as FDR was too.

[gundamWWW]

Regan was too dirty. Funded the afgan terrorists and Contra groups and killed thousands of people as a result and also funded Saddaam and sold weapons to Iran. Roosevelt was the best hands down.

[dave4708]

I was so proud to be a American when Ronald Regan was our president.Now look at our choices-Either we elect a war monger or a extreme left wing socialist.

[gundamWWW]

I was proud too back in the 80's to have Reagan as president. Then I travelled around the world and all media networks and t.v. stations showed the real truth. Networks in the U.S. are soo biased and shield us from the truth. You can even google "Reagan Iran Contra" "Reagan Sadaam Hussein" "Reagan Afghanistan". Instead of giving me a thumbs down, enlighten yourself with the truth. Why live a lie?

Have a nice day.

[bigfilmhat]

Obama is a far better President than Reagan, McCain would have been better than Ronald Reagan too. Reagan didn't give a shit about the middle class.

[sonofoyah]

give the man credit,,, he made a great vacuum cleaner

[billyguns2]

There needs to be a thorough, modern re-evaluation of which U.S. presidents did a good job and those who were misguided or wrong for the country. In my assessment, Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson would be relegated towards the bottom; Harding and Cooloidge would be elevated to a higher estimation.

[Waldocounty]

Disagree. Harding was out of his league. Jackson was effective --actually rebated a govt. surplus to the taxpayers! Coolidge is way underestimated; deserves a better place. Grover Cleveland was outstanding.

[pzgratzinger]

Yeah but Jackson had the Force Bill, which was despotic. That hurts his reputation in my eyes.

[lsvm]

ive never heard him speak before, good job.