I remeber watching a movie (I guess it was Heart's war) were german cam commander reponded to american captured soldier, that they are no different from nazies: segregation of blacks and stuff. From hearing that movie my eyes were open, because I started to see USA as bullie, not the defendor.
Interesting how the sign "Notice to All Japanese Persons" in the video mentioned the British Columbia Security Commission. This was Canada and the Canadians did the same thing.
Great video. I may use parts of this for a dvd I'm working on to distribute locally about current events. It may help people accept the dangers that lay ahead if they see what has already happened
oh and the united states provoked the Japanese to do bomb peral habor...so they can bomb the Japanese and join the war so the international bankers can loan money to both sides of the war so the bankers can make alot of money...its all about money and power
In 2012 if we as in the people in the United Sates no matter what race your are...yes this means you too white people...will all be sent to FEMA camps known as concentration camps as they did in WW2 in Germany to the Jews...America already did it to the Japanese AMERICANS...what makes you think they wont do it again...first they will attack the aliens, then blacks, then latinos, then who ever is against government control...wake up people before its too late
Are the Nips looking for sympathy? What we did to the nips including nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is nothing compared to what they did to the Chinese, Filipinos and Koreans.
doesn't make the nazi's look so bad now does it. america has far exceeded the war crimes of the nazi's, they just have not been defeated to be able to stand trial. typically most americans and british hold to much selfish pride and just refuse to admit it. america was colonised in the same way germany was liberated.
@TheVila84 80,000 of the 120,000 people who were imprisoned by the United States government during World War II were American citizens, a direct violation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! This is a disgraceful chapter in American history that gets short shrift in schools.
@TheVila84 Not allowing them to marry outside of their race is total bullshit. It was very uncommon to see a Japanese man or women married to someone outside of their race because THEIR CULTURE LOOKED ON IT AS A VERY BAD THING. Out of all the Asian cultures, the Japanese are still the least to marry outside of their culture.
Racism has always been a WORLD thing, not just the U.S. We did not starve them, beat them etc in those camps, they were taken care of even though it was wrong.
@TheVila84 You have to remember how the world at the time, everyone was looking over their shoulder. To get attacked like we did, pissed off a-lot of people and scared them at the same time, so everything went into panic mode.
But we never abused these people like the Japanese, Germans and Soviets did in their camps. One of the reasons why whenever there was an American sector in a town, ALL of the towns residents wanted to do there, not the Brits, French etc.
Now if you look what Japan was secretly doing back in the 30s look up Unit 731 Human Experients. It's when Japan took hundreds of American POWs in anger at the US and slaughtered em trying to create a "Super Soldier" as they believed. Im not kidding look it up. It's called UNIT731. They have it on Wikipedia, google, and even YouTube itself!
its true. but the japanese aslo helped us with our crops. they created the white plume. its a white cellery that the japanese sold to americans. then the americans grew them.
@IowaBattleship02 I find it hilarious that people are actually listing Wikipedia and youtube as citable references now in recent years.. pretty sad... im not saying what your saying is bad but.. saying to look it up on youtube and wikipedia or even google which has alot of biased websites (internet) kinda takes away your cedibility.. Regardless of what Japan did to American POWs before and after the war doesnt really condone what the americans did to their won citizens (japanese americans)
Seriously I really hate Japan during ww2. And what do you expect us to do? We were scared of what might happen next. It wasn't our fault. O and whos fault was it? The nation who was attacked and was terrified or the nation who attacked us for territory and oil to terrorise other nations! and who needed that oil to slaughter all of asia! We didn't mean to take em to these camps but we had no choice. I know it was a really bad thing but it wasn't our fault...
well, i don't know if it was befor or after purl harbor but out of nowher befor we bombed hiroshima we sent japan a letter saying "get out we are going to bomb you." if it was befor, purl harber was probobly pay back.
@KikuriYear LMFAO are you like 5 years old. how retarded are you... they sent the letter after the first bomb was dropped telling them to surrender. then they dropped the second bomb. they were dropped to end the war.. not to start it.. moron
@KikuriYear You are so wrong i think i just got more stupid by reading your comment. First of all, PEARL Harbor. Second, the Japanese bombed the US on December 7th, 1941, Hiroshima was bombed on August 6, 1945. Third, Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack. Please do not ever comment on anything dealing with history, or at least know what you are saying.
ok lyfean you mother fucker your trying to prove roosevelt and the us guilty? How about you go rape and shoot your mom in the head mother raper sick bastered USA ownes!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! You racise black bitch!
Great film man. My grandma was held prisoner in Jerome Ark. while my grandpa was fighting in the 442nd. Its our responsibility as 4th generation Japanese Americans that their stories and struggles are told and this NEVER happens again.
There is no connection what so ever to the interment camps for the japanese in the 40's and what Africans did to themselves in the 70's. No one should feel guilt or blame for the sins of the past. Only for the sins of the future. The beginning of the video is proof that we only have privlidges in America, not rights. This can happen to anyone, now it's not racial, it's philisophical. The end just made me think this is more lefty guilt trip bullshit. I don't feel guilty, and never will.
This video is just a vial attempt to pin a guilt trip on Americas youth. What happened in Africa has nothing to do with or is in any comparable to the internment and relocation. The japanese enemy aliens and their dependents were treated well and I dare anybody to find comparable pictures
or any evidence of slaughter. However, if we were to look at China in 1937 when Japan attacked the city of Nanking we could easily find comparable pictures and plenty of evidence of what they did.
Quote from Attorney General DeWitt "You needn't worry about the Italians at all except in certain cases. Also, the same fact for the Germans except in individual cases. But we must worry about the Japanese all the time UNTIL HE IS WIPED OFF THE MAP. Sabotage and espionage will make problems as long as he is allowed in this area - problems which I don't want to have to worry about." Not racially charged? I don't think so.
Excellent point, some of these people are worse to each other, than anyone else ever was. One fact, besides independant cases of torture by the CIA, most pow's are treated very well by the U.S.
A Japanese American man says, "had other Americans had courage to speak out.."(against human injustice),he says Rememberance Day and this Dialogue about violations of human rights would be unnecessary today.I agree about apologizing, but also question how many of the Japanese Americans kept quiet about or justified Japanese invasions,colonialism,and slavery in rest of Asia for half a century before WWII? Are they doing enough today about Japanese Government's Whitewashing of History?
Re: bigopparamma post, If you are speaking of Hitlers attempt to exterminate the people of the Jewish faith, I would like to know where you got this information, that most of the world supported what Hitler was doing.
Even Japan did not support it. As for your comment that some US citizens supported it.
You can always find a few jerks among the population of a free country. It is what the government does that counts. It was the US Army that liberated many of the concentration camps.
I don't think so buddy. No one, even his own people didn't know what was going on. It wasn't until the Russians took Poland and liberated the surviving jews, that anyone knew exactly what was happening. Anyone who says we went to war with Germany to help the jews from genocide is full of shit. We knew they were oppressed, we knew about the ghettos, but not about the death camps.
FDR saved this country and the world. If not for him the west coast would have suffered as china did at the hands of the Japanese,and if you are from the west coast you would probably be speaking japanese.
japan is one of the most racist countries
in the world. Do some research before posting. Suggest reading " Magic" by david lowman for historical fact not opinion. Until you research with an open mind your opinion is worth nothing.
These were Japanese Americans, not Japanese nationalists. They were born and raised in the United States; The Nisei and the Sansei. Their parents and grandparents, the Isseis immigrated from Japan way before the start of World War II.
If someone is being ignorant it's you. Please explain to me why the government has not incarcerated Nazi sympathizers like Charles Lindenberg and Henry Ford?
Charles Lindburg and Henery Ford were American citizens and had the right of freedom of speech. I am sure you have heard of this right. A american may sympathize with any country he wants too. I believe your statment that these men were Nazi sympathizers comes from statments they made before Hitler declared war on the U.S. Once war was declared they did nothing to support Germany.
Of course I heard of this right, you idiot! If any Japanese Americans (The Nissei) were to sympathize with Imperial Japan, were they not excericising their "free speech", as were Ford and Lindenberg?
As far as I'm concern, I'm not the ignorant one. I can assure you there will probably be others who see this video and your remarks and cram down your throat.
Re: bigpopparamma post: I have not called you names such as "idiot" or made threats
toward you. As a former teacher I am only trying to educate you. It appears you are a youth or you would not behave in such a mammer. I am much older and lived thru the times we are discussing and let me assure you,inspite of my age,nobody is going to "cram anything down my throat". I will forget your poor behavior and attempt to answer your question. The difference is ford and lindburg were not enemy aliens.
I apologize for calling you an idiot, nor do I think I was making any threats. You may be a former teacher, but I think you are the one who is not seeing the real picture. I suggested to you earlier to sit down and talk to a Japanese American who has been interned and he or she will tell you their side of the story. George Takei, whom we all know as Mr. Sulu can tell you about his experience in an internment camp when he was a child. He other Nissies and Sansies were treated like enemy combatant
Almost all of the Japanese adults interned or relocated were citizens of Japan ,enemy aliens. about 40,500. If you have done proper research you know that the Japanese Govt. required all Japanese living outside of Japan to register newborn children as citizens of Japan at the nearest consulate or embassy. Most of the young adults and large numbers of children had dual citizenship.
The German and Italian governments did not require them to register their children as citizens. The Japanese government did,and most obeyed. This is another indicator of the loyalty of these enemy aliens. They only came here to make money not to be citizens of the U.S. They considered themselves Japanese. Citizenship and location were all important. If you were a citizen of a country that had declared war on the U.S.
and in a military exclusion you were required to relocate.
We also need to remember the 442nd Nissei; Japanese Americans fighting for America against the Germans during World War 2. Most of them joined from the internment camps to prove their loyalty to America instead of Japan and the other Axis nations.
The Japanese required them to make a choice. As a parent living in a foreign country, where you are NOT allowed to become a citizen, what CHOICE would you make? You want to stay in this country, but you don't want to lose your children. This choice had NOTHING to do with country loyalty, and EVERYTHING to do with family.
During WW2, many people of German ancestry, born and raised in the U.S., were interned on Ellis Island, because they were Nazi sympathizers. Again, there were other German-Americans, who did not share the Nazi ideology, and they were free to roam the streets. What about the Italian Americans? Italy itself was part of the Axis party. I never saw any evidence that they too were interned.
Re: bigpopparamma post: It appears you have know idea how the evacuation relocation and internment was administered. Not all japanese,germans or italians were rounded up
across the entire country it did not work that way. If you lived in a military area you were required to move.
Also, I encourage you to sit down and speak to a Japanese American, who has been interned, and he or she will give you the story, which has never been told you.
If you saw this video, how were the children, as young as infants a threat to this nation ?
I have read many books by Japanese such as "return to manzanar" and many others such as "Americas Concentration Camps" etc. Inc.
It is all highly tainted opinion and are written by people who were children at the time. Any true researcher will tell you that historical fact is what to look at if you want the truth.
The remaining children were dependants and Re: bigpopparamma post. About 2/3 of all these interned or relocated were children and unless you are ignorant of the law you know children do not have the same rights as adults. Please do proper research before pushing the send button.
I have done my research. However, I still think that what FDR did was wrong. If the Japanese were to be rounded up for security purposes, he should have done the same thing to the Germans and the Italians, only it was not much enfoced. I thought that it was ignorant of him and others in his administration.
Also, many Jewish refugees who came to the U.S. to escape Nazi oppression were immediately deported or turned away. Some went north to Canada or settled in Britain.
I have an Idea, instead of taking FDR's likeness off the dime why don,t you wrap all you get and send them to me. That way you wont have to look at them.
Wow! You just responded to me after a whole year. I thought this debate was over.
Well, I don't feel what's the point. You see, I've discussed the issue about of why not remove the portrait of Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill after what he has done to Native Americans during his life: such as forcing the Cherokees from their land onto the Trail of Tears. To my understanding, most Indian Reservations in the Midwest refuse to accept $20 bills. But, that is another story.
That was a joke, but you can send all those $20 bills you get also. The indians got what they deserved for hiring themselves out to the brits as mercenaries, British agents were
Ok, we can go on and debate of so many things that have happened in the past. You and I were are from different generations and were taught differently.
You prefer to have this ignorant attitude, that's fine, it's a new era and not everyone is going to agree with these views you have. I find your so-called claims very conjectural.
My claims are historically accurate. As you can see I do not debate you I just
post historical fact and answer your questions. You do not have the historical knowledge to debate me on this
subject I am Just trying to educate you and get you to do some open minded research. I dont know what idiot taught you but they did not know their history on this subject Admiral Nimitz was a U.S.
citizen , was not suspected of espionage
was not considered dangerous and Germans were not relocated.
So, by this logic our service men deserved being in the Baton Death March?
You don't the American treatment of the Indians was a "little" over the top? The elders, the children, the pregnant mothers DESERVED the american death march? Wow, next your going to tell us Emmett TIll deserved the beating and death he recieved.
However, back to the debate. I have done my research. Just because you say that you are a teacher doesn't mean you are right. I was being logical with many of the focal points instead, you get really defensive. Have you spoke with a survivor of an internment camp like I recommended?
As for FDR's likeness on the dime, I pay no attention to it.
Me defensive ? You were the one doing the name calling. Why would I want to speak to somebody who was a child at the time.and has been trying ever since to get more money. i am not going to get a honest answer. Historical facts are what counts.If you have done more research you would know German and italian even Romainians were interned.
In 1942 in greqater numbers than the japanese. So you can go back now and remove your mistakes.
There is no sense of arguing with you. The only German's that were interned were the only selected of 4500; some were suspected Nazi spies; that's a very small margin.
As for going back and remove my mistakes, no I will not.
Oh, speaking of German Americans being interned, they forgot to add Admiral Chester Nimitz.; but no, he was helping us win the war.
You just wont do research will you? There were two seperate opperations, internment and relocation. The internment started just hours after
the attack on Pearl Harbor, was run by the department of justice and targeted only thoes suspected of espionage.
The relocation did not start until months later, was run by the War Relocation Authority and targeted all japanese because of the possibility of invasion
of our west coast. We wanted them out off the way in part for their own protection.
Again you were a child at the time if either of your profiles are to be believed you were either 6 or 13 at the time. The difference in ages between these two profiles leaves you somewhat suspect as to whether or not you are an honest person.
You have yet to provide any data, or reference material to back up any of your claims. You are not debating from a historical stand point until you do so. You are debating from opinion without backup references.
I would not believe anything a japanese said about the internment.or relocation. They were after money and allot of what they write is slanted in their favor. The Niihau incident was a clear example of a Japanese American who participated in armed insurection, sabatog and aiding the enemy. He was not put on trial because he was killed.
As for those who were involved in the incident., Just because a couple of Japanese Americans were collaborating with the enemy doesn't mean that ALL are the enemy.
I agree the decision he made was incorrect. But the situation he was in... I don't know if many of us would have made a different choice. The pressure he received from the "authorities" on the west coast and the fact that this was a VERY volatile country (when it comes to racism - just look at lynching stats) and he was already pushing the envelope by appointing blacks and women into higher positions in the government. Again it is a dark mark on history, but he was not alone in this choice.
@Khantikone123 - I was drafted and suffered under allot worse and lost allot more. I still sing god bless america and only a traitor would think only of themselves.
@am220uss Most Americans now realize that this was a sorry chapter in our history. The US government apologized and paid reparations to some survivors. Then there are a few people like you.
Indeed, I also belive this was a dark part of Americas History. funny how thing like this dont get tought to children in the united states. these people were mistreated because of what they look like. without a doubt, this country has had the saddest history of racism.atleast, now things like thease are gone and freed from this country.
RE: supra8sec post. Would you explain why we were helping the Chinese in WWII if we were so racist. they are of the same race as the Japanese. As a former teacher I can tell you that the japanese side of this is taught extensively in our schools. This was not about race but country of origin. We were at war with Japan. The Germans living in the U.S. were mistreated in world war one and they are white. Do some research before posting.
Another crappy amateur attempt at a documentary. Are there any professionally done documentaries about Japanese internment during WWII?
pucksterz12 3 months ago
I remeber watching a movie (I guess it was Heart's war) were german cam commander reponded to american captured soldier, that they are no different from nazies: segregation of blacks and stuff. From hearing that movie my eyes were open, because I started to see USA as bullie, not the defendor.
rycka1983 5 months ago
Interesting how the sign "Notice to All Japanese Persons" in the video mentioned the British Columbia Security Commission. This was Canada and the Canadians did the same thing.
bhconrod 6 months ago
Great video. I may use parts of this for a dvd I'm working on to distribute locally about current events. It may help people accept the dangers that lay ahead if they see what has already happened
MrCrandyknows 7 months ago
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oh and the united states provoked the Japanese to do bomb peral habor...so they can bomb the Japanese and join the war so the international bankers can loan money to both sides of the war so the bankers can make alot of money...its all about money and power
jeska7gre3n 8 months ago
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In 2012 if we as in the people in the United Sates no matter what race your are...yes this means you too white people...will all be sent to FEMA camps known as concentration camps as they did in WW2 in Germany to the Jews...America already did it to the Japanese AMERICANS...what makes you think they wont do it again...first they will attack the aliens, then blacks, then latinos, then who ever is against government control...wake up people before its too late
jeska7gre3n 8 months ago
People say the Japanese deserved this and the nukes.
BULL FUCKING SHIT
the civilians had nothing to do with the government.
UncleT0uchy 9 months ago 2
@UncleT0uchy Some people can't fucking realize that.
crosschain95 8 months ago
Damn this historical event sounds like it was almost as bad as this music....
Nextstopearth 1 year ago
Are the Nips looking for sympathy? What we did to the nips including nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is nothing compared to what they did to the Chinese, Filipinos and Koreans.
capnhands 1 year ago
fucking americans the americans killed more peoble like the nazis!!!!!!!!!
germanmaxi1980 1 year ago
doesn't make the nazi's look so bad now does it. america has far exceeded the war crimes of the nazi's, they just have not been defeated to be able to stand trial. typically most americans and british hold to much selfish pride and just refuse to admit it. america was colonised in the same way germany was liberated.
SoulsOfThePure 1 year ago
You people dont get it. Everyone is commenting on this video as if it is something the United States did to Japan.
This is about what the United States did to its own people.
TheVila84 1 year ago 16
@TheVila84 80,000 of the 120,000 people who were imprisoned by the United States government during World War II were American citizens, a direct violation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! This is a disgraceful chapter in American history that gets short shrift in schools.
carrotjuse 2 months ago
@TheVila84 Not allowing them to marry outside of their race is total bullshit. It was very uncommon to see a Japanese man or women married to someone outside of their race because THEIR CULTURE LOOKED ON IT AS A VERY BAD THING. Out of all the Asian cultures, the Japanese are still the least to marry outside of their culture.
Racism has always been a WORLD thing, not just the U.S. We did not starve them, beat them etc in those camps, they were taken care of even though it was wrong.
mrceebees14 2 weeks ago
@TheVila84 You have to remember how the world at the time, everyone was looking over their shoulder. To get attacked like we did, pissed off a-lot of people and scared them at the same time, so everything went into panic mode.
But we never abused these people like the Japanese, Germans and Soviets did in their camps. One of the reasons why whenever there was an American sector in a town, ALL of the towns residents wanted to do there, not the Brits, French etc.
We aren't cruel people.
mrceebees14 2 weeks ago
wow sethcha this is good. and a lot of people have watched it!! i used yours to help with mine lol
whooax13 1 year ago
Dude, this song doesn't fit whatsoever. Please redo this and pick something actually decent.
joshmb24 1 year ago
he totally went off subject with the whole rwanda thing
parfitt21 1 year ago
horrible choice of music for this documentary... but i like that a video like this will never let us forget what my grandmother went thru
TheJesseg360 1 year ago
ha. wow. all these past comments are psychotic.
everyone should just chill out.
but cool video. i have to do this photostory thing too for modern america :/
K0YSTER 2 years ago
war sucks racsim sucks...my opion i dont want any hate mail
ilovejapan888 2 years ago 11
no better then Germany -- just better PR --oh and the Us won so they wrote history!
usuckamydick 2 years ago
Now if you look what Japan was secretly doing back in the 30s look up Unit 731 Human Experients. It's when Japan took hundreds of American POWs in anger at the US and slaughtered em trying to create a "Super Soldier" as they believed. Im not kidding look it up. It's called UNIT731. They have it on Wikipedia, google, and even YouTube itself!
IowaBattleship02 2 years ago
its true. but the japanese aslo helped us with our crops. they created the white plume. its a white cellery that the japanese sold to americans. then the americans grew them.
KikuriYear 2 years ago
@IowaBattleship02 I find it hilarious that people are actually listing Wikipedia and youtube as citable references now in recent years.. pretty sad... im not saying what your saying is bad but.. saying to look it up on youtube and wikipedia or even google which has alot of biased websites (internet) kinda takes away your cedibility.. Regardless of what Japan did to American POWs before and after the war doesnt really condone what the americans did to their won citizens (japanese americans)
walkertexasranger33 1 year ago
@IowaBattleship02 also how could the Japanese have American POWs if there was no war going on between japan and america at the time>?
walkertexasranger33 1 year ago
Seriously I really hate Japan during ww2. And what do you expect us to do? We were scared of what might happen next. It wasn't our fault. O and whos fault was it? The nation who was attacked and was terrified or the nation who attacked us for territory and oil to terrorise other nations! and who needed that oil to slaughter all of asia! We didn't mean to take em to these camps but we had no choice. I know it was a really bad thing but it wasn't our fault...
IowaBattleship02 2 years ago
retard
usuckamydick 2 years ago
well, i don't know if it was befor or after purl harbor but out of nowher befor we bombed hiroshima we sent japan a letter saying "get out we are going to bomb you." if it was befor, purl harber was probobly pay back.
KikuriYear 2 years ago
@KikuriYear LMFAO are you like 5 years old. how retarded are you... they sent the letter after the first bomb was dropped telling them to surrender. then they dropped the second bomb. they were dropped to end the war.. not to start it.. moron
walkertexasranger33 1 year ago
@KikuriYear You are so wrong i think i just got more stupid by reading your comment. First of all, PEARL Harbor. Second, the Japanese bombed the US on December 7th, 1941, Hiroshima was bombed on August 6, 1945. Third, Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack. Please do not ever comment on anything dealing with history, or at least know what you are saying.
sconcannon11 1 year ago
it wasnt our fault? are you serious
matpage16 1 year ago 2
ok lyfean you mother fucker your trying to prove roosevelt and the us guilty? How about you go rape and shoot your mom in the head mother raper sick bastered USA ownes!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! You racise black bitch!
IowaBattleship02 2 years ago
What do these pictures of what happened
in Africa have to do with the Japanese internment in the US fifty years before.
This is just a stupid attempt to link the two for the purpose of sending American youth on a guilt trip. Don't be stupid enough to fall for it
am220uss 2 years ago
Great film man. My grandma was held prisoner in Jerome Ark. while my grandpa was fighting in the 442nd. Its our responsibility as 4th generation Japanese Americans that their stories and struggles are told and this NEVER happens again.
thanks for posting this!
lobbyhonda 2 years ago
I's sorry what your family has gone through. It's too bad that am220uss could not see another person's perspective.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
I am glad to see that there are others who can see thru this attempt to pin a guilt trip on America's youth.
am220uss 2 years ago
There is no connection what so ever to the interment camps for the japanese in the 40's and what Africans did to themselves in the 70's. No one should feel guilt or blame for the sins of the past. Only for the sins of the future. The beginning of the video is proof that we only have privlidges in America, not rights. This can happen to anyone, now it's not racial, it's philisophical. The end just made me think this is more lefty guilt trip bullshit. I don't feel guilty, and never will.
AphoticAquatic 2 years ago
this is proof evil rule's over good!
alexjonesretard 3 years ago
as I stated on Japanese relocation 23 hours ago... "Oops typed in Attorney General... Lt General John L DeWitt
But you knew that already since you are the expert, right?"
ztigris 3 years ago
Right
am220uss 2 years ago
This video is just a vial attempt to pin a guilt trip on Americas youth. What happened in Africa has nothing to do with or is in any comparable to the internment and relocation. The japanese enemy aliens and their dependents were treated well and I dare anybody to find comparable pictures
or any evidence of slaughter. However, if we were to look at China in 1937 when Japan attacked the city of Nanking we could easily find comparable pictures and plenty of evidence of what they did.
am220uss 3 years ago
Quote from Attorney General DeWitt "You needn't worry about the Italians at all except in certain cases. Also, the same fact for the Germans except in individual cases. But we must worry about the Japanese all the time UNTIL HE IS WIPED OFF THE MAP. Sabotage and espionage will make problems as long as he is allowed in this area - problems which I don't want to have to worry about." Not racially charged? I don't think so.
ztigris 3 years ago
There was no attorney general DeWitt
am220uss 3 years ago
Excellent point, some of these people are worse to each other, than anyone else ever was. One fact, besides independant cases of torture by the CIA, most pow's are treated very well by the U.S.
AphoticAquatic 2 years ago
A Japanese American man says, "had other Americans had courage to speak out.."(against human injustice),he says Rememberance Day and this Dialogue about violations of human rights would be unnecessary today.I agree about apologizing, but also question how many of the Japanese Americans kept quiet about or justified Japanese invasions,colonialism,and slavery in rest of Asia for half a century before WWII? Are they doing enough today about Japanese Government's Whitewashing of History?
sjwr3 3 years ago
So far, the only American I knew who spoke out against it was First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
Also, the sad thing is, most of the world including citizens of the United States agreed what Hitler was doing.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Re: bigopparamma post, If you are speaking of Hitlers attempt to exterminate the people of the Jewish faith, I would like to know where you got this information, that most of the world supported what Hitler was doing.
Even Japan did not support it. As for your comment that some US citizens supported it.
You can always find a few jerks among the population of a free country. It is what the government does that counts. It was the US Army that liberated many of the concentration camps.
ussam220 3 years ago
It was actually the russians.
AphoticAquatic 2 years ago
I don't think so buddy. No one, even his own people didn't know what was going on. It wasn't until the Russians took Poland and liberated the surviving jews, that anyone knew exactly what was happening. Anyone who says we went to war with Germany to help the jews from genocide is full of shit. We knew they were oppressed, we knew about the ghettos, but not about the death camps.
AphoticAquatic 2 years ago
The only people who knew about the death camps were the German government and the citizens who lived nearby; they denied that there were death camps.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
The US liberated many of the camps in Germany. it is historical fact with pictures as proof . Denial of a US roll is a lie.
am220uss 2 years ago
Let's petition to take FDR off the dime, since this crippled, racist bastard was responsible for signing this disgrace of American history.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
I AGREE!
Pogawa341 3 years ago
FDR saved this country and the world. If not for him the west coast would have suffered as china did at the hands of the Japanese,and if you are from the west coast you would probably be speaking japanese.
japan is one of the most racist countries
in the world. Do some research before posting. Suggest reading " Magic" by david lowman for historical fact not opinion. Until you research with an open mind your opinion is worth nothing.
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ussam220 3 years ago
These were Japanese Americans, not Japanese nationalists. They were born and raised in the United States; The Nisei and the Sansei. Their parents and grandparents, the Isseis immigrated from Japan way before the start of World War II.
If someone is being ignorant it's you. Please explain to me why the government has not incarcerated Nazi sympathizers like Charles Lindenberg and Henry Ford?
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Charles Lindburg and Henery Ford were American citizens and had the right of freedom of speech. I am sure you have heard of this right. A american may sympathize with any country he wants too. I believe your statment that these men were Nazi sympathizers comes from statments they made before Hitler declared war on the U.S. Once war was declared they did nothing to support Germany.
ussam220 3 years ago
Of course I heard of this right, you idiot! If any Japanese Americans (The Nissei) were to sympathize with Imperial Japan, were they not excericising their "free speech", as were Ford and Lindenberg?
As far as I'm concern, I'm not the ignorant one. I can assure you there will probably be others who see this video and your remarks and cram down your throat.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Re: bigpopparamma post: I have not called you names such as "idiot" or made threats
toward you. As a former teacher I am only trying to educate you. It appears you are a youth or you would not behave in such a mammer. I am much older and lived thru the times we are discussing and let me assure you,inspite of my age,nobody is going to "cram anything down my throat". I will forget your poor behavior and attempt to answer your question. The difference is ford and lindburg were not enemy aliens.
ussam220 3 years ago
I apologize for calling you an idiot, nor do I think I was making any threats. You may be a former teacher, but I think you are the one who is not seeing the real picture. I suggested to you earlier to sit down and talk to a Japanese American who has been interned and he or she will tell you their side of the story. George Takei, whom we all know as Mr. Sulu can tell you about his experience in an internment camp when he was a child. He other Nissies and Sansies were treated like enemy combatant
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Almost all of the Japanese adults interned or relocated were citizens of Japan ,enemy aliens. about 40,500. If you have done proper research you know that the Japanese Govt. required all Japanese living outside of Japan to register newborn children as citizens of Japan at the nearest consulate or embassy. Most of the young adults and large numbers of children had dual citizenship.
ussam220 3 years ago
So if the Germans and the Italians who were born in the U.S., were they not required to be registered as citizens of Japan and Italy?
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
The German and Italian governments did not require them to register their children as citizens. The Japanese government did,and most obeyed. This is another indicator of the loyalty of these enemy aliens. They only came here to make money not to be citizens of the U.S. They considered themselves Japanese. Citizenship and location were all important. If you were a citizen of a country that had declared war on the U.S.
and in a military exclusion you were required to relocate.
ussam220 3 years ago
then why were 70% of the Japanese that were forced to relocate AMERICAN CITIZENS?
fp00n 3 years ago
re: fpoon post, because 70% were children born
in the U.S. and citizens by birth right. These were the children of the enemy aliens
Japanese citizens. Enemy aliens were inturned /relocated by all countries at war including mexico,canada and Japan.
am220uss 3 years ago
We also need to remember the 442nd Nissei; Japanese Americans fighting for America against the Germans during World War 2. Most of them joined from the internment camps to prove their loyalty to America instead of Japan and the other Axis nations.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
The Japanese required them to make a choice. As a parent living in a foreign country, where you are NOT allowed to become a citizen, what CHOICE would you make? You want to stay in this country, but you don't want to lose your children. This choice had NOTHING to do with country loyalty, and EVERYTHING to do with family.
ztigris 2 years ago
Continue:
During WW2, many people of German ancestry, born and raised in the U.S., were interned on Ellis Island, because they were Nazi sympathizers. Again, there were other German-Americans, who did not share the Nazi ideology, and they were free to roam the streets. What about the Italian Americans? Italy itself was part of the Axis party. I never saw any evidence that they too were interned.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Re: bigpopparamma post: It appears you have know idea how the evacuation relocation and internment was administered. Not all japanese,germans or italians were rounded up
across the entire country it did not work that way. If you lived in a military area you were required to move.
ussam220 3 years ago
Where I live, one of the state fairgrounds was converted to a temporary relocation center; It was called "Camp Harmony".
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Also, I encourage you to sit down and speak to a Japanese American, who has been interned, and he or she will give you the story, which has never been told you.
If you saw this video, how were the children, as young as infants a threat to this nation ?
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
I have read many books by Japanese such as "return to manzanar" and many others such as "Americas Concentration Camps" etc. Inc.
It is all highly tainted opinion and are written by people who were children at the time. Any true researcher will tell you that historical fact is what to look at if you want the truth.
ussam220 3 years ago
Are you telling me that their stories are exaggerated? That almost sounds like a buch of idiots out there who deny that the Holocaust ever happened.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
The remaining children were dependants and Re: bigpopparamma post. About 2/3 of all these interned or relocated were children and unless you are ignorant of the law you know children do not have the same rights as adults. Please do proper research before pushing the send button.
ussam220 3 years ago
I have done my research. However, I still think that what FDR did was wrong. If the Japanese were to be rounded up for security purposes, he should have done the same thing to the Germans and the Italians, only it was not much enfoced. I thought that it was ignorant of him and others in his administration.
Also, many Jewish refugees who came to the U.S. to escape Nazi oppression were immediately deported or turned away. Some went north to Canada or settled in Britain.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
It could be worse: we could be speaking German.
Also why don't you do some suggested reading like "History of Cultural America by Michael Takaki"
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
I have an Idea, instead of taking FDR's likeness off the dime why don,t you wrap all you get and send them to me. That way you wont have to look at them.
am220uss 2 years ago
Wow! You just responded to me after a whole year. I thought this debate was over.
Well, I don't feel what's the point. You see, I've discussed the issue about of why not remove the portrait of Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill after what he has done to Native Americans during his life: such as forcing the Cherokees from their land onto the Trail of Tears. To my understanding, most Indian Reservations in the Midwest refuse to accept $20 bills. But, that is another story.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
That was a joke, but you can send all those $20 bills you get also. The indians got what they deserved for hiring themselves out to the brits as mercenaries, British agents were
in spanish Florida near at the Georiga
line selling them guns and paying them
to kill Americans.That is historical fact.
am220uss 2 years ago
Ok, we can go on and debate of so many things that have happened in the past. You and I were are from different generations and were taught differently.
You prefer to have this ignorant attitude, that's fine, it's a new era and not everyone is going to agree with these views you have. I find your so-called claims very conjectural.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
My claims are historically accurate. As you can see I do not debate you I just
post historical fact and answer your questions. You do not have the historical knowledge to debate me on this
subject I am Just trying to educate you and get you to do some open minded research. I dont know what idiot taught you but they did not know their history on this subject Admiral Nimitz was a U.S.
citizen , was not suspected of espionage
was not considered dangerous and Germans were not relocated.
am220uss 2 years ago
So, by this logic our service men deserved being in the Baton Death March?
You don't the American treatment of the Indians was a "little" over the top? The elders, the children, the pregnant mothers DESERVED the american death march? Wow, next your going to tell us Emmett TIll deserved the beating and death he recieved.
ztigris 2 years ago
Our soldiers in the death march were members of a uniformed military in a declared war they were not mercenaries.
They did not kill women and children.
This talk of the indian wars is off subject
and I am thru with it.
am220uss 2 years ago
However, back to the debate. I have done my research. Just because you say that you are a teacher doesn't mean you are right. I was being logical with many of the focal points instead, you get really defensive. Have you spoke with a survivor of an internment camp like I recommended?
As for FDR's likeness on the dime, I pay no attention to it.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
Me defensive ? You were the one doing the name calling. Why would I want to speak to somebody who was a child at the time.and has been trying ever since to get more money. i am not going to get a honest answer. Historical facts are what counts.If you have done more research you would know German and italian even Romainians were interned.
In 1942 in greqater numbers than the japanese. So you can go back now and remove your mistakes.
am220uss 2 years ago
There is no sense of arguing with you. The only German's that were interned were the only selected of 4500; some were suspected Nazi spies; that's a very small margin.
As for going back and remove my mistakes, no I will not.
Oh, speaking of German Americans being interned, they forgot to add Admiral Chester Nimitz.; but no, he was helping us win the war.
You say I'm wrong, I say you're wrong.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
You just wont do research will you? There were two seperate opperations, internment and relocation. The internment started just hours after
the attack on Pearl Harbor, was run by the department of justice and targeted only thoes suspected of espionage.
The relocation did not start until months later, was run by the War Relocation Authority and targeted all japanese because of the possibility of invasion
of our west coast. We wanted them out off the way in part for their own protection.
am220uss 2 years ago
Again you were a child at the time if either of your profiles are to be believed you were either 6 or 13 at the time. The difference in ages between these two profiles leaves you somewhat suspect as to whether or not you are an honest person.
You have yet to provide any data, or reference material to back up any of your claims. You are not debating from a historical stand point until you do so. You are debating from opinion without backup references.
ztigris 2 years ago
When I said "let's take FDR off the dime", I was being rhetorical.
FDR may have taken us out of the Depression, but what he did was not right.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
I would not believe anything a japanese said about the internment.or relocation. They were after money and allot of what they write is slanted in their favor. The Niihau incident was a clear example of a Japanese American who participated in armed insurection, sabatog and aiding the enemy. He was not put on trial because he was killed.
am220uss 2 years ago
The Niihau was when a Japanese Zero pilot crash-landed on the Hawaiian island of Niʻihau after participating in the attack on Pearl Harbor.
A Japanese national, not a Japanese American! Two different people.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
Harada and friends were japanese Americans. They assisted the downed japanese pilot. One would have to be
extremely naive to believe this pilot was lucky enough to land near the only Japanese who would assist him. The government was questioning how the
Japanese immagrants would react to war
and the first to be tested sided with Japan. Another good reason for the relocation
am220uss 2 years ago
As for those who were involved in the incident., Just because a couple of Japanese Americans were collaborating with the enemy doesn't mean that ALL are the enemy.
bigpopparamma 2 years ago
I agree the decision he made was incorrect. But the situation he was in... I don't know if many of us would have made a different choice. The pressure he received from the "authorities" on the west coast and the fact that this was a VERY volatile country (when it comes to racism - just look at lynching stats) and he was already pushing the envelope by appointing blacks and women into higher positions in the government. Again it is a dark mark on history, but he was not alone in this choice.
ztigris 2 years ago
You say it wasn't right , I say it was necessary to save lives and win the war. That makes it right.
am220uss 2 years ago
Correct it was necessary to do this. Who cares about em. Americas the best nation I know. God Bless America and Britana!!!
IowaBattleship02 2 years ago
@IowaBattleship02 How about putting you in the camp for years. See if you'll sing God Bless America....
Khantikone123 1 year ago
@Khantikone123 - I was drafted and suffered under allot worse and lost allot more. I still sing god bless america and only a traitor would think only of themselves.
am220uss 10 months ago
@am220uss Most Americans now realize that this was a sorry chapter in our history. The US government apologized and paid reparations to some survivors. Then there are a few people like you.
carrotjuse 2 months ago
@carrotjuse - World War II was a dark and dangerous time for everybody not just for Japanese citizens
living in the U.S. and their children . The U.S. govt. may have apologized but our govt. has made many
mistakes and this is one of the worst. It was just political correctness gone amuck.
am220uss 2 months ago
Indeed, I also belive this was a dark part of Americas History. funny how thing like this dont get tought to children in the united states. these people were mistreated because of what they look like. without a doubt, this country has had the saddest history of racism.atleast, now things like thease are gone and freed from this country.
supra8sec 4 years ago
RE: supra8sec post. Would you explain why we were helping the Chinese in WWII if we were so racist. they are of the same race as the Japanese. As a former teacher I can tell you that the japanese side of this is taught extensively in our schools. This was not about race but country of origin. We were at war with Japan. The Germans living in the U.S. were mistreated in world war one and they are white. Do some research before posting.
ussam220 3 years ago
China was our ally during WW2. Their government was different then, before the rise of Mao Tse Tung and the Communist regime.
As for the Germans in WW1, they were punished after the War; no military allowed and each country placed an embargo on them.
bigpopparamma 3 years ago
Yes, it was a dark part of our history, but why compare it to rwanda? At least the camps weren't genocidal.
S116103500 4 years ago 3
Man, this is one of the best videos I have seen on here.
I can't believe it doesn't have more views.
Peace,
- QDJ
QDJMan 4 years ago