This is beautiful, but I wish the LSB would also include the Kruger tune. This tune is good, but the Kruger tune is better, and I don't expect anyone to take offense to that. I love both tunes, and I don't understand why the LSB couldn't have had both tunes. But I guess it's more important to make sure we get in "On Eagles Wings" and "Go tell it on the Mountain." Can I get a hurumph?
I never said that. I said it is the same mentality that TAKES AWAY a great tune which compliments the theology of the great hymn as the mentality that INCLUDES empty hymns that offer no comfort except for the pietistic atheological children of Adam who need to hear the law and gospel but instead cling to sentimental crap like "On Eagles Wings," "Amazing Grace," and "Go Tell it on the Mountain." The tune in the LSB is beautiful, but Kruger's tune is better than the one in the LSB.
@ajpreus I apologize. I did not mean to say that "Amazing Grace" and "On Eagles Wings" are empty hymns. "On Eagles' Wings" is unmistakably a paraphrase of the majority of Psalm 91, while "Amazing Grace" divides Law and Gospel quite well (Cf. verse 1 and following). You'll have to be more specific why you think "Go Tell it on the Mountain" is Crap, since all I see in it is a presentation of Luke 2:8-19. Those hymns don't really relate to this video, and I don't know why you brought them up. :)
" Look at Isaiah 52:7-8. Then look at how Paul interprets it in Romans 10:14. The watchmen on the Mountain are pastors. Having little children sing this is to give them a false idea of the gospel, as if they are supposed to be the pastors, who will be judged more harshly. Amazing Grace not once mentions the forgiveness of sins...
@ajpreus...Amazing Grace never mentions Christ, the cross, or His resurrection. It sounds as if grace is something God gives us merely in order to turn our lives around. As if I was once a sinner, and now I'm not a sinner. No wonder this is the favorite hymn of the secular reformed such as the Methodists and other gospel reductionists. Good point about Ps 91, but Christ is the completion of the Scriptures; it doesn't mention Jesus, our Raboni, who points to Himself. A Jew could sing this.
@ajpreus Like I said, I like Dr. Kosche's tune. But I grew up singing the Kramer tune, and Lutherans should not turn away from our heritage (it's ok to add tunes and good hymns e.g. Starcke's hymns). The LSB has some good stuff, but pandering to the pietistic heart is not Christian instruction. I can tollerate a little bit of shmaltz like "Beautiful Savior" and I guess "What a Friend we Have in Jesus", but these non Lutheran songs taking priority over Lutheran hymns is really a shame.
This is beautiful, but I wish the LSB would also include the Kruger tune. This tune is good, but the Kruger tune is better, and I don't expect anyone to take offense to that. I love both tunes, and I don't understand why the LSB couldn't have had both tunes. But I guess it's more important to make sure we get in "On Eagles Wings" and "Go tell it on the Mountain." Can I get a hurumph?
ajpreus 1 year ago
@ajpreus I don't know. It's hard to say that including a new melody on a great hymn and including weak hymns are of the same rationale.
gasness1 1 year ago
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I never said that. I said it is the same mentality that TAKES AWAY a great tune which compliments the theology of the great hymn as the mentality that INCLUDES empty hymns that offer no comfort except for the pietistic atheological children of Adam who need to hear the law and gospel but instead cling to sentimental crap like "On Eagles Wings," "Amazing Grace," and "Go Tell it on the Mountain." The tune in the LSB is beautiful, but Kruger's tune is better than the one in the LSB.
ajpreus 1 year ago
@ajpreus I apologize. I did not mean to say that "Amazing Grace" and "On Eagles Wings" are empty hymns. "On Eagles' Wings" is unmistakably a paraphrase of the majority of Psalm 91, while "Amazing Grace" divides Law and Gospel quite well (Cf. verse 1 and following). You'll have to be more specific why you think "Go Tell it on the Mountain" is Crap, since all I see in it is a presentation of Luke 2:8-19. Those hymns don't really relate to this video, and I don't know why you brought them up. :)
gasness1 1 year ago
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"He made me a watchman
Upon a city wall,
And if I am a Christian,
I am the least of all.
" Look at Isaiah 52:7-8. Then look at how Paul interprets it in Romans 10:14. The watchmen on the Mountain are pastors. Having little children sing this is to give them a false idea of the gospel, as if they are supposed to be the pastors, who will be judged more harshly. Amazing Grace not once mentions the forgiveness of sins...
ajpreus 1 year ago
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ajpreus 1 year ago
@ajpreus...Amazing Grace never mentions Christ, the cross, or His resurrection. It sounds as if grace is something God gives us merely in order to turn our lives around. As if I was once a sinner, and now I'm not a sinner. No wonder this is the favorite hymn of the secular reformed such as the Methodists and other gospel reductionists. Good point about Ps 91, but Christ is the completion of the Scriptures; it doesn't mention Jesus, our Raboni, who points to Himself. A Jew could sing this.
ajpreus 1 year ago
@ajpreus Like I said, I like Dr. Kosche's tune. But I grew up singing the Kramer tune, and Lutherans should not turn away from our heritage (it's ok to add tunes and good hymns e.g. Starcke's hymns). The LSB has some good stuff, but pandering to the pietistic heart is not Christian instruction. I can tollerate a little bit of shmaltz like "Beautiful Savior" and I guess "What a Friend we Have in Jesus", but these non Lutheran songs taking priority over Lutheran hymns is really a shame.
ajpreus 1 year ago
@ajpreus Yeah. I also want the most explicit Christological hymns to take priority.
gasness1 1 year ago
@gasness1 Amen!
ajpreus 1 year ago
Bist Du Deutscher?
xxlbaggy 2 years ago
Traditional Lutheran Music is the best!!!
Cildara 3 years ago
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Cildara 3 years ago
That was beautiful. Dr. Kosche is truly a gift to the Church, and I am happy to call him a friend as well.
tutal 3 years ago