@ 6:40 you say, "in a hopeless position...Walter Brown made the best move." I'm no GM, so I could certainly be wrong, but I can't find a forced mate for black after white plays 16. Nf4. What am I missing?
@recoyle After Nf4, e5! pushes off the knight. Even if Be6, exf4, Bxd7, Bxd7, the dangerous threat still exists in Bh3-Bg2, and Rh1#, even if defended (I’m not sure it can be…) white would have tremendous sacrifice.
I'm new at chess, I mean super new, like 5 days new and I was able to completely follow and understand all of the moves. You did a really good job of making this interesting and fun to watch & learn. Thanks for the all the work you put into this. :-)
And where, exactly, does it say in the video that every move was a or that Francisco Baltier had no ideas? In fact Mr Wall pointed out that Black chose a slightly inferior line by playing Qd7 instead of Bh3 so many of the ideas were Mr Baltier's. These moves aren't learned by rote except for the first few, as Mr Wall says there is very little 'book' on this opening.
I corresponded with Jack Young in the nineties about ideas I had in the Colorado gambit which is a offshoot of the Nimzovitch defense to 1.e4 Nc6 2..Nf3 f5!?. Jack was gracious enough to send me numerous games that he had played with this variation. He had a lot of crazy ideas; in fact, Hugh Myers, who wrote the definitive book on the 1.e4 Nimzovitch defense, called Jack Young a chess genius. I don't doubt this one bit.
The funniest part of this story is that the greatest moment of a guy's chess life comes from purely book moves, moves that he didn't invent or discover, but only remembered. He may as well just sit a computer in front of his opponents. Sure, this is fun in blitz games, but this idiot paid money to "play" a GM. Sad.
@azctw Actually you are the sad one. All of us, including grandmasters, play book moves that we've memorised in the opening. Funny that you don't seem to know this if you're a chess player.
@colourmegone I didn't say I wouldn't take the win, but it definitely wouldn't be the highlight of my career to win a simul game without a single move of my own. That is just pathetic. It's a lot more fun to beat masters head-to-head in a tournament...
The Fishing Pole is one of many opening inventions of Massachusetts Life Master Jack Young. For more see Chess Horizons magazine or How To Play Chess Like an Animal book. The Rambo theme arose from Francisco Baltier writing " Nothing is over. Nothing is over. You just don't turn it off!" when describing his comeback Chess games against kids in the Raytheon Chess newsletter.
I'm really glad to see Walter Browne get his ass kicked. I have watched him play numerous times at my chess club the Mechanics Institute in San Francisco. He is a big mouth punk with no manners and an attitude. I wish when he dies I could be there to piss on his grave. But I guess that's what they call the "winners attitude" as I have seen many of the top players who behave the same way Walter does - and have also seen many who condone this - just for the sake of winning. Sincerely, JAMES.
this video becomes really useful, i really loved to play the fishing pole and i actually defeated the junior panamerican champion on a simul. with this amazing combination
:) well the whole idea for this video came from an email brian did, so its more of an inside joke for his email list, if you are not a part of it i can see why it would be annoying, if you want to be on brian's email list go to yahoo groups and search brian wall chess
I analyzed this opening variation with rybka 3 and white gained and held the advantage in every game by ignoring the knight on g4 and instead playing for the center.
Your missing the point.Thats with rly rly perfect play.People almost never play perfect.Even at grandmaster play mistakes happen (albeit less often and they also play perfect moves).Its just worth it (your playing your preparation against his)
taking risks is part of life and its part of the game of chess, if absolutely no one played risky every game would be a dead-draw and we would have no beautiful games whatsoever
F2L4Life, I wouldn't use Rybka to try to score openings; it won't find the best opening moves or score the openings properly for human play. Actual chess databases are much better resources for determining how certain openings actually fare, and the fishing pole fares pretty well even when white never takes the knight.
Not exactly. I good player would simply see that it is unsound and would play accordingly. I myself have thrashed it. Traps are great in social clubs and in friendly games, but really should not be using in a tournament setting (Long games at least. Blitz is another story :D).
One question I have as I rewatch this over and over is what happens after 14 Re1 Bh3!!!! ( considered by FB ) 15 Nf4 , then 15 ... de!! 16 N:h3 R:h3!! and the threats of ... Ne2+, ... R:g3+, ... Qh4 or ... Qc8-d7are so bad Browne must give up his Queen to avoid checkmate also 15 Re1 Qd7 16 e6 fe 17 Nf4 is very bad due to 17 ... e5!! or 17 ... g5!!! 18 Ng6 Qh7 15 Re1 Qd7 16 Nf4 de!! is also crushing for Baltier I had to get that out of my system. Brian
To say these fishing pole videos are merely brilliant would be the chess understatement of the century!! These were the best chess *anything* I have ever seen!! BRAVO guys!! Just called Francisco and told him to run not walk and get his butt online to watch these!! Outstanding job!!!! NOTHING IS OVER!! NOTHING!!!!
This opening is useless since I play computers.
giovannibulgari 1 week ago
@ 6:40 you say, "in a hopeless position...Walter Brown made the best move." I'm no GM, so I could certainly be wrong, but I can't find a forced mate for black after white plays 16. Nf4. What am I missing?
recoyle 7 months ago
@recoyle seems to me either 16...g5 or 16...e5 are easily winning
sagacious00004 7 months ago
@recoyle After Nf4, e5! pushes off the knight. Even if Be6, exf4, Bxd7, Bxd7, the dangerous threat still exists in Bh3-Bg2, and Rh1#, even if defended (I’m not sure it can be…) white would have tremendous sacrifice.
majicalways 1 month ago
lmao, this line sucks, after ng4, its just met with d3, followed by Bg5, good game Black.
ibestpker1 9 months ago
very unique review i like it so poetic! xD
johlo05 9 months ago
I'm new at chess, I mean super new, like 5 days new and I was able to completely follow and understand all of the moves. You did a really good job of making this interesting and fun to watch & learn. Thanks for the all the work you put into this. :-)
b/b)O(
avallonmist 11 months ago
I've never heard this much gloating in a chess video before.
slavdef 11 months ago 2
@slavdef you should read his emails
sagacious00004 11 months ago
I'm going fishing from now on as black! :)
pixarian72 1 year ago
why can't the white queen take the horse on D4 at 4:49?
Tutterkop 1 year ago
@Tutterkop its protected by the peek-a-boo bishop on a7
sagacious00004 1 year ago
@sagacious00004 thanks. lol why didn't i see that bishop standing there totally obvious :)
Tutterkop 1 year ago
@Tutterkop
the bishop on a7
tylernothing 1 year ago
And where, exactly, does it say in the video that every move was a or that Francisco Baltier had no ideas? In fact Mr Wall pointed out that Black chose a slightly inferior line by playing Qd7 instead of Bh3 so many of the ideas were Mr Baltier's. These moves aren't learned by rote except for the first few, as Mr Wall says there is very little 'book' on this opening.
colourmegone 1 year ago
these scenes of rambo are annoying
StoneDatYtube 1 year ago
At 3:30 when black moves pawn to b5, what if whites queen took black pawn at f3?
panchito89 1 year ago
@panchito89 13. Qxf3 Nxe5 14. Q anywhere Bg4 (threatening Bf3 with mate on h1) not to mention the bishop on a4 is hanging.
sagacious00004 1 year ago
I corresponded with Jack Young in the nineties about ideas I had in the Colorado gambit which is a offshoot of the Nimzovitch defense to 1.e4 Nc6 2..Nf3 f5!?. Jack was gracious enough to send me numerous games that he had played with this variation. He had a lot of crazy ideas; in fact, Hugh Myers, who wrote the definitive book on the 1.e4 Nimzovitch defense, called Jack Young a chess genius. I don't doubt this one bit.
royplayer 1 year ago
The funniest part of this story is that the greatest moment of a guy's chess life comes from purely book moves, moves that he didn't invent or discover, but only remembered. He may as well just sit a computer in front of his opponents. Sure, this is fun in blitz games, but this idiot paid money to "play" a GM. Sad.
azctw 1 year ago
@azctw Actually you are the sad one. All of us, including grandmasters, play book moves that we've memorised in the opening. Funny that you don't seem to know this if you're a chess player.
colourmegone 1 year ago
@colourmegone I didn't say I wouldn't take the win, but it definitely wouldn't be the highlight of my career to win a simul game without a single move of my own. That is just pathetic. It's a lot more fun to beat masters head-to-head in a tournament...
azctw 1 year ago
The Fishing Pole is one of many opening inventions of Massachusetts Life Master Jack Young. For more see Chess Horizons magazine or How To Play Chess Like an Animal book. The Rambo theme arose from Francisco Baltier writing " Nothing is over. Nothing is over. You just don't turn it off!" when describing his comeback Chess games against kids in the Raytheon Chess newsletter.
BrianWallChess 1 year ago
I dont like it its ugily and if something goes wrong your pawn structure is desimated
dobsondale 1 year ago
I'm really glad to see Walter Browne get his ass kicked. I have watched him play numerous times at my chess club the Mechanics Institute in San Francisco. He is a big mouth punk with no manners and an attitude. I wish when he dies I could be there to piss on his grave. But I guess that's what they call the "winners attitude" as I have seen many of the top players who behave the same way Walter does - and have also seen many who condone this - just for the sake of winning. Sincerely, JAMES.
buzzclark 2 years ago
Brian Wall plays at my chess club. He's about 2200
subatom101 2 years ago
this video becomes really useful, i really loved to play the fishing pole and i actually defeated the junior panamerican champion on a simul. with this amazing combination
Heredero6 2 years ago 3
Can I see the PGN?
BrianWallChess 2 years ago
i hope i can get it someday.
Heredero6 2 years ago
wow, I first watched this video a few months ago and it's come in really handy in blitz games, thank you.
lewiszim 2 years ago 2
Thanx LewisZim - glad it's working for you
BrianWallChess 2 years ago
at 1:43, what is wrong with queen takes f3?
mrKreuzfeld 2 years ago
12. Qxf3?? Qh4 and white will have to give up his queen to stop checkmate on h2 (if only for a move or two)
sagacious00004 2 years ago
hm would it not go
12. Qxf3, Qh4
13. Qh3, then it is protected by the pawn? so that is
....Qxh4 and then pawn takes black queen, and rook takes the pawn
mrKreuzfeld 2 years ago
no no the bishop on c8 takes the white queen on h3 ;)
sagacious00004 2 years ago
the clips got really annoying
would have stopped watching if you hadn't of juiced the story up so well
EmericanIdol84 2 years ago
:) well the whole idea for this video came from an email brian did, so its more of an inside joke for his email list, if you are not a part of it i can see why it would be annoying, if you want to be on brian's email list go to yahoo groups and search brian wall chess
sagacious00004 2 years ago
epic game. you did a great job in conveying how great perfromance the 1500 player had
mrKreuzfeld 2 years ago 2
I analyzed this opening variation with rybka 3 and white gained and held the advantage in every game by ignoring the knight on g4 and instead playing for the center.
F2L4Life 3 years ago
Your missing the point.Thats with rly rly perfect play.People almost never play perfect.Even at grandmaster play mistakes happen (albeit less often and they also play perfect moves).Its just worth it (your playing your preparation against his)
lilondra 2 years ago 5
My point is that it is unsound. In other words, you take a huge risk when you play it.
F2L4Life 2 years ago
taking risks is part of life and its part of the game of chess, if absolutely no one played risky every game would be a dead-draw and we would have no beautiful games whatsoever
sagacious00004 2 years ago
F2L4Life, I wouldn't use Rybka to try to score openings; it won't find the best opening moves or score the openings properly for human play. Actual chess databases are much better resources for determining how certain openings actually fare, and the fishing pole fares pretty well even when white never takes the knight.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago 2
That's why nobody would expect it... thus it works.
undyingflame27 2 years ago
Not exactly. I good player would simply see that it is unsound and would play accordingly. I myself have thrashed it. Traps are great in social clubs and in friendly games, but really should not be using in a tournament setting (Long games at least. Blitz is another story :D).
F2L4Life 2 years ago
Well obviously... I would think that blitz is the only place for traps like this.
Still, these are nice to know.
undyingflame27 2 years ago
Rambo Stallone - On The Set Of First Blood : Part1
Interesting revisiting Rambo locations
BrianWallChess 3 years ago
Youtube
Vietnam War Chess Set
BrianWallChess 3 years ago
hallyday noir c'est noir see this! Chess player dream
bigblockgm 3 years ago 2
that would be funt to post video with this match and music from "Requiem for a dream" in the background :-D 5/5
Geppy23 3 years ago
BrianWallChess 3 years ago
copy and paste
Fishing Pole: First Blood pt 1
into the Search Box
BrianWallChess 3 years ago
where is part 1?
trixapete 3 years ago
in the description of the video there is a link to part 1
sagacious00004 3 years ago
To say these fishing pole videos are merely brilliant would be the chess understatement of the century!! These were the best chess *anything* I have ever seen!! BRAVO guys!! Just called Francisco and told him to run not walk and get his butt online to watch these!! Outstanding job!!!! NOTHING IS OVER!! NOTHING!!!!
TimmyBx 3 years ago
companion youtube videos
Walter Browne chess simul Reno
Chess Openings: Fishing Pole - Play chess like an Animal
BrianWallChess 3 years ago