It's the same culture of power oppressing the common people, and then this left-right, liberal-conservative, socialist-libertarian paradigm is imposed through media and social engineering onto everyone's mind and they fail to see the reality concerning the mechanisms of power that have ALWAYS been in place for all of human history, and fail to take the leap of faith and effort to try to restructure the world from the ground up to create a world sans power relationships, coercion, oppression
Why does a government go fight wars of imperialism. For resources and political control over the direction the region takes. The power mongers get their ego power aphrodisiac, the banksters get massive material wealth through the military industrial complex (Boeing, Haliburton, the Entire Carlisle Group, etc. etc.) all of this wealth flows upward into the epicenters of the system of power which is both economic and political, it's not one or the other being more coercive than the other.
Do you know anything about the intellectual, political philosophical history of anarcho-syndicalism? If you don't think that economy, when regulated by global scale, privatized institutions and organized on a hierarchical scale, can be just as coercive and oppressive, if not more so, then faux republics and rhetorically deceptive, self-interested governance, then you're missing a huge arching connection between both types of power institutions historically
Why do you think people are marching from New York to D.C. to protest the Bush Era Tax Cuts...do you not see how central government and central economic institutions are separate, a binary? You rail against Occupy people saying they want more governmental regulation, socialization, but then you rail on anarchists as if anarchists weren't fundamentally opposed to all forms of centralized power and as if they weren't central to the organization of this movement.
@neto41831 Yes, they do. I feel this is a pretty common list that most Occupiers, though there's plenty of diversity there, seem to agree on: 1) Get money out of politics, no privately subsidized campaigns that dictate who does and does not run for office with any kind of chance 2) End corporate personhood 3) Prosecute executives of Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo, etc. the IMF, the WTO, the U.S. government, and the Federal Reserve who have participated in fraud, misled clients, stolen $
@neto41831 You see, the far Right's diagnosis of the problem: There's no gold standard, the FED embezzles money into private banks and loans it out to the government at interest, all politicians are evil...and the far Left's diagnosis of the problem: The tax code and subsequent social stratification of wealth perpetuates further economic classicism and lack of equal opportunity (a capitalist principle), trickle down economics is a fraud and mass socialization and sequestering of wealth occurs ->
@neto41831 at the highest level of economic oligarchical hierarchy, all economists are evil...are, barring the last two of each, which I put in for good humor, though the percentages are staggering, anyhow, those prescriptions are both valid sets of points concerning the same problem with our economic system which has been created by the vacuum of power left in Western Industrialized society after each major military conflict of the last 250 years, which power interests both visible and ->
@neto41831 invisible have seized upon and used to pass bogus legislature and consolidate absurd portions of wealth through monopolistic, anti-humanitarian, and deceptive practices time and time and time again. Until we create counter-institutions, both politically and economically, to the global scale ones presently in place, we will never achieve social, political, or economic justice.
This is what I have said all along.
therandmguyy 2 months ago
It's the same culture of power oppressing the common people, and then this left-right, liberal-conservative, socialist-libertarian paradigm is imposed through media and social engineering onto everyone's mind and they fail to see the reality concerning the mechanisms of power that have ALWAYS been in place for all of human history, and fail to take the leap of faith and effort to try to restructure the world from the ground up to create a world sans power relationships, coercion, oppression
wspsaves 3 months ago
Why does a government go fight wars of imperialism. For resources and political control over the direction the region takes. The power mongers get their ego power aphrodisiac, the banksters get massive material wealth through the military industrial complex (Boeing, Haliburton, the Entire Carlisle Group, etc. etc.) all of this wealth flows upward into the epicenters of the system of power which is both economic and political, it's not one or the other being more coercive than the other.
wspsaves 3 months ago
Do you know anything about the intellectual, political philosophical history of anarcho-syndicalism? If you don't think that economy, when regulated by global scale, privatized institutions and organized on a hierarchical scale, can be just as coercive and oppressive, if not more so, then faux republics and rhetorically deceptive, self-interested governance, then you're missing a huge arching connection between both types of power institutions historically
wspsaves 3 months ago
Why do you think people are marching from New York to D.C. to protest the Bush Era Tax Cuts...do you not see how central government and central economic institutions are separate, a binary? You rail against Occupy people saying they want more governmental regulation, socialization, but then you rail on anarchists as if anarchists weren't fundamentally opposed to all forms of centralized power and as if they weren't central to the organization of this movement.
wspsaves 3 months ago
where you get that from? they dont even know what they want yet...
neto41831 3 months ago
@neto41831 Yes, they do. I feel this is a pretty common list that most Occupiers, though there's plenty of diversity there, seem to agree on: 1) Get money out of politics, no privately subsidized campaigns that dictate who does and does not run for office with any kind of chance 2) End corporate personhood 3) Prosecute executives of Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo, etc. the IMF, the WTO, the U.S. government, and the Federal Reserve who have participated in fraud, misled clients, stolen $
wspsaves 3 months ago
@neto41831 You see, the far Right's diagnosis of the problem: There's no gold standard, the FED embezzles money into private banks and loans it out to the government at interest, all politicians are evil...and the far Left's diagnosis of the problem: The tax code and subsequent social stratification of wealth perpetuates further economic classicism and lack of equal opportunity (a capitalist principle), trickle down economics is a fraud and mass socialization and sequestering of wealth occurs ->
wspsaves 3 months ago
@neto41831 at the highest level of economic oligarchical hierarchy, all economists are evil...are, barring the last two of each, which I put in for good humor, though the percentages are staggering, anyhow, those prescriptions are both valid sets of points concerning the same problem with our economic system which has been created by the vacuum of power left in Western Industrialized society after each major military conflict of the last 250 years, which power interests both visible and ->
wspsaves 3 months ago
@neto41831 invisible have seized upon and used to pass bogus legislature and consolidate absurd portions of wealth through monopolistic, anti-humanitarian, and deceptive practices time and time and time again. Until we create counter-institutions, both politically and economically, to the global scale ones presently in place, we will never achieve social, political, or economic justice.
wspsaves 3 months ago