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  • I felt that Obama had not handled the Jeramiah Wright issue very well. What I would have said when Stephanopoulos asked that question is, "I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ and I cannot disown that action and the man (Wright) who led me to Christ." That would have told the truth, addressed the lie that he is a muslim and distance him from Wright on the non-Christian statements by Wright.

  • Irony of it all is the Christians that say "God is angry with us" vs Wright "America can go to hell". When in fact when God is angry he sends you to hell.

  • The contradiction is CLEARLY between the terms "Fox" ..... & the terms "news". Some major confusion of terms.lol

  • rev. wright should be shot in his racist ass head

  • sorry. you don't youtube for viewers to decide ;). you're just making a point by providing interpretation. please don't suggest that you are just relaying because this seems offensive ;) those so called "questions" (grammar-only) were just over the top.

    i don't know the exact facts cause it's not my country so i don't care. your footage seems convincing and is well made, although there was bit of chaos in it to me. you probably should avoid putting your voice over picture of male announcer;).gl

  • @odolany too many emoticons in your post...gl ;)

  • FOX news manipulating? really?

  • 276 people got mad?  lol

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  • Hey liberalveiwer. let the news report, and we decide. who are you to decide for us..

  • @macdogq fox doesnt count as news.

  • @macdogq

    ...Because Fox news edits all of their footage to look as bad as possible for anyone who disagrees with them?

    This isn't reporting; it's political advertising.

  • ahhhh grow some balls Obama be like the Turkish Prime minister. Fuck tha world throw all the Zionist in prisons, charged with plans to commit treason. over throw the government and set up the NWO. Obama is a puppet. Erdogan is the man.

  • Sue them enough times and they'll get it

  • @STNKbone Watch ALJAZEERA ENGLISH news! They don't put a spin on anything! They just tell @ show it like it is.

  • @Glitch5222

    Right, choose to completely ignore any sort of self-examination and just concentrate on insignificant trivial shit. You're set on your views, the moronic, irrational shit that goes on in your brain is completely unworthy of any further response, enjoy being mental my friend.

  • I know that I'm very late to respond to this (watching the playlist now), but Obama stuck his foot in his mouth on this occasion. If he had corrected himself without being prodded by the interviewer then I think there is bias shown, as it stands (much as I hate to admit it) Faux 'news' isn't necessarily in the wrong this time.

  • FOX News think that people are stupid.

    Well, most of them are, if they watch FOX news in the first place

  • I feel alot of people misunderstand, I have been in Iraq and Germany for the last 6 years of my life. My views of politics and world issues are not of Fox News, they are that of real experience

  • I replied TO anger, not with anger. I saw the "you liberal leftist tree huggin hippie" as an angry comment, whether you see it as 'cussin' or not. With you guys, everything is either far one way or far the other. You know, there ARE differing degrees of extremity in everything. For example, just because our school systems are socialized, doesn't mean we live in a socialist state. Choice? I hardly EVER hear a conservative say that word! I thought it was your way or the highway!

  • @88beauzeau88 That wasnt anger friend. just giving you a title with some goofy names.\

  • Cheech and Chong fallback jokes. I find it quite sad for the tool who replied to my comment. You found a need to cuss. I apologize for your lack of a vocabulary. You also found it a need to involve a comment about me fornicating with my siblings.. real mature.. Im guess you are either a med student or sociopath... the world may never know. If I express an opinion on here Im not going to rely on cussing. If you can't handle being called a hippie or tree hugger than you should move to france

  • Ever notice how the right is 90% sheep and 10% horny farmer? These folks see themselves as 'conservatives' simply because "their daddy" was one. Ever notice how these grown men like to refer to their father as "their daddy". "My daddy taught me that long ago". Here's a lesser known secret. They also refer to their mothers as "their mommy". The 90% sheep sit around doing what they're told. The 10% horny farmer do everything they can to keep the truth from the frightened sheep.

  • @88beauzeau88 80% of humans are sheep most of the time.

  • @88beauzeau88 Im sorry I find you to be foolish. I am a 25 yr old combat veteran from NY (liberal democratic state) Im a conservative because I find it to be more cut and dry. What is wrong with having a choice? It seems today more and more politicians that align with liberals are pushing towards socialism.. I personally don't want to stand in a rations line. But for you radicals who reply with anger.. thats just my opinion not fact and Im entitled to it. Really good analogy... NOT

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  • @45KILO20 I joined while I had a job, if you think people join cause they are at the "end of their rope" then you fool must stand for something and try serving... instead of calling names. Im a proud american, and I joined because I wanted to. Just cause Im conservative doesnt mean I don't want to leagalize marijuana... thats one of my beliefs.. it could open up a HUGE international market and help get us our of national debt. But I guess Im at the end of my rope..

  • @45KILO20 I respect your status as a veteran. I do not think that liberals are pushing towards socialism though. You thinking this way only serves to prove that corporations like Fox have been successful in their effort. Modern day conservatives are not cut and dry, they are saturated with buzz phrases designed to sound meaningful. Social programs endorsed by liberals may wind up having you in a rations line but it is the conservative advocacy of deregulation that will have you enslaved.

  • @jetplaneman1 I'm curious. How can deregulation enslave us? Besides the obvious point of the monopoly, what other points do you have to back that claim.

  • @Glitch5222 I didn't understand him either. One of those 'I wish he kept going and explained himself moments'. Instead I'm just like... what?

  • Yeah I would keep going but there is a 500 character limit.

  • @Glitch5222 By deregulating industry you put discretion into the hands of an organization which is solely for profit at the top level. These organizations are less bound by a moral and ethical standard, if you want empirical proof look at practically any coal mining company from the early 1900's. The coal companies would pay you in "marks" which you took to the "company store" and were coerced into buying goods at absurd prices. Of course this doesn't happen anymore because of regulations.

  • all the presidents are puppets.

  • Are you high... you liberal leftest tree huggin hippie.. go smoke another joint.. he doesnt care about the people he thinks we are all too stupid to govern ourselves. you are a fool. THERE IS CONTROVERSY... OPEN YOUR EYES

  • @45KILO20 We can't open our eyes douche. We're too stoned! Oooh, Cheech and Chong jokes! The ol' faithful fallback joke that the right uses when they feel threatened. btw, the hippies haven't been around in like 40 years. Maybe if you'd stop fuckin your sister and listening to your country music long enough you'd already know that.

  • 1200 posts on this video are made by paid trolls employed by liberal groups to pollute social media.

  • Dear Liberal Viewer, I think you used some pretty big words that are unnecessary and i only say this because I don't know a good percentage of the words you just used... LOL

  • @thegwd LOL!

  • Of course. Fox News is known for distorting the truth and always will distort the truth to be more in their favor. That's why most of their viewers don't understand most things and are often found quoting word-for-word what the channel said, instead of thinking for themselves. It's sad how humanity has dimmed to such a low level, isn't it?

  • i dont think it was at all he only disowned those comments not him himself wich has made unbelievably un patriotic statements

  • i like cnn, are the lefties?

  • Bet you Americans wish you could have a BBC news equivalent. I think there is a BBC WORLD news in America, but it isn't the same as an American news show.

  • Fuck Fox News. From now on, I'm calling it "Fucks News".

  • Of course it was ideologically biased. Fox is known for that. That's why they have their faithful conservatives as viewers. If I ever watch Fox News it's to look for the bias, specifically for that reason. Never for news because of all the overtones, ambiguity, & shortened clips that cleverly (sometimes) color the bias. It's sad that Fox's are so afraid of change. That maintaining their way of life is more important than justice, truth, & helping people...not for the sake of getting a return.

  • And I suppose that ABC and CNN are completely unbiased?

  • @Glitch5222 No, but better.

  • @Glitch5222

    Were you even paying attention to the narrator at all?? Jesus you people are scummed by your narrowness, even when things are clearly spelled out, you choose to completely tune out. 

  • @DelbyC Take an English class champ. You're missing commas, and I'm yet to understand the use of scummed in that sentence. Perhaps when you have a basic concept of grammar you can argue your point.

  • I don't think this is an instance of bias so much as it is an example of fox's usual dis-ingenuousness. There may be some pattern to their bias, but I don't think it can be said to be ideological, their views simply aren't coherent enough to be defined by an ideology.

  • Well done. . . Obviously another plot to circumvent our intelligence. Tell it like it is, if only US news would do so. I like when he says Obama is commenting on a bias we see on all major networks including bias towards CONTROVERSY, SENSATIONALISM, SUPERFICIALITY and CORPORATISM. How sad that we cannot afford such rights as an objective news source. You know you have watched news when afterwards you don't know which side to be on because nobody told you what to think.

  • ALL WHITE MEN IS THE PROBLEM OF THIS WORLD THEY MUST DIE !! LISTEN TO HÄMDENS VAPEN !! 

  • @javlasvennejavel Were waiting You Pussy

  • @javlasvennejavel

    This country won't be fixed until the government is populated by black women.

  • I think it is time for you to pull this video down.If you haven't figured out that Obama contradicts himself by now,then you have no buisness posting political videos.Obama said "will not raise payroll tax"-what does he say now? "I think the best idea is to raise the cap on payroll tax"-Obama said"I see no reason why we can't start an imediate withdrawal"-but what has he done? He sent tens of THOUSANDS more troops,and INCREASED millitary funding.Its time to stop supporting George W. Obama

  • Reminds me of reading the New York times.. In some Cases there are useless Articles... Example:ww(dot)nytimes(dot)com­/2010/05/23/world/asia/23korea­(dot)html: Which explains how some speculation could be useful to rally support against North Korea.. Sorry but speculation will not gain my support, likewise this video.

  • There's no contradiction.. Just what fox created. It was clear enough for me to understand he wasn't implying that he disowns anyone.

  • I don't like Obama. I didn't see any contradiction in what he said about Jermiah Wright. He said, "I cannot disown him, anymore than I can disown the black community." and at the debate, He said, and DID CLARIFY, "I disowned HIS COMMENTS." Where is the contradiction in those 2 comments?

  • Fox New is dumb and they are liars!

    Vote Up if you agree.

  • Fox is opinion not reporting, to claim otherwise would be to reveal your doctrine.

  • I dont get it. I mean I think Fox's edit was less damaging. To me it read like this....I answer questions to seperate myself from this guy in question and when asked to expand I specifiy a vague broad answer and condense it to a response I did not intend to give and blow myself up by exposing my shifty double-talk. Did anyone else sense this? I am gonna vote for an American next time! Bring back the Constitution and limit the government! Drop your cause and Unite under Red White and Blue.

  • @vilekyle22 nope. no one did.

  • @vilekyle22 Rob Ford has got half of it right. Not good enough though

  • I still don't see the biased, he does slightly contradict himself, He says "I can't disown him" Then later in the debate he says "I have disowned the comments" he changed his stance a little bit. You guys are going to find biased in every news organization. Also, you are predisposed to thinking someone is biased and don't take it for what it is, you yourself are going to have a biased perspective.

  • @Arcturistheballer

    you wont find situations where a news organization plays only part of a comment to make a person look worse than he is. they obviously have an agenda to support the right.

  • @BeastAP23 first of all just because fox is not a big fan of obama (although many fox contributers are huge supporters of him) does not mean they support the right. They were equally tough on Bush as well. They were showing Obama separating himself from rev right which is what he was doing, a biased organization would not have shown this at all.

  • @Arcturistheballer No, This video does not show him separating from Rev. wright (even though he did), it shows a contradiction that was never there. Either way, this is a useless video on Fox's behalf because all it shows is that he doesn't disown either of them. They are human is what he was trying to say. He also mentions, at times, we need to take a step back and look at who we are. That is what he meant by his statements in this video.

  • The news has a commitment to sensationalism, it sells. Why don't we all just turn out stupid TV sets off, they're all full of 'journalism' but no truth.

  • He gave him a tough question, that wasn't nice at all, he must be bias....

    Liberal viewer, your an idiot

  • @EsotericSanity You kinda missed the point of this whole video.

  • @baldurus1 no no i got the point, that guy is supposedly Bias, but right after that he Mentions FoxNews is even worse.

    The "LiberalViewer" makes BIAS points so theres no real reason to get them :D

  • @EsotericSanity no, he was saying every news station has a biased towards creating controversy for ratings, no matter what party the candidate is from. he wasn't saying the question had a particular biased against Obama in particular. However, the way Fox news shapes and edits its news makes some believe that they do have a biased towards a particular party.

  • @buffymovies

    I'm sorry, but hes making a point about a group thats bias, while being bias himself.

    The only reason he gives Fox so much hate is because they are not bias in they way he wants them too be.

  • you could have a field day of contradictions like this that fox and other news stations did, against micheal jackson too.

  • Watch PBS news! They don't put a spin on anything! They just tell it like it is.

  • @STNKbone Lmfao yeah, they don't look for problems or anything. xD

  • @STNKbone agreed! PBS shows are so factual and indepth about each issue...sadly, but honestly, its a breath of fresh air... its not PBS'' fault that facts are usually liberal, like colbert said :P

  • Tipical Fox manufactured news report

  • @TedWebb lol, "tipical" liberal spelling

  • @TedWebb Tipical bottom-feeder.

  • When is going to be the day when a politician says FUCK you to the media or the Public. And here in Mexico these bitches keeo complaining about who won the damn elections. Al politicians and all media sucks. Here and in the U.S i've been seen some really heavy load of BULLSHIT.

  • For the love of God. No shit; News lies. It happened with Obama, and Bush; Clinton; Bush Sr....Anyone-- There's no fully reliable news source, 'cause even the way people put things can be misinterpereted. Figure it out for yourself instead of listening to one or the other.

  • @eequalsmcvajeen12 there is a difference between the accuracy of the news that is reported, and just plain changing context to stir up shit. what fox news did is a whole different level to misinterpreting something

  • @rtvandle No, it's not- A lie is a lie; faulty is faulty. All news is faulty. Period. And if yu don't like it, don't watch it. I don't watch any of it, 'cause it's all biased shit.

  • /watch?v=TYAdHKOEdJg

  • As hard as I try to listen to you, you sound too much like a robot. I would sub but I really dislike the robotic voice. Sounds like an endless drone.

  • point is... we All need to collectively agree on the foundation of our beliefs, and run with it. Democracy is failing here, because we are so divided.  Learn to lean in no direction, stand straight up and tall.. the entire planet looks at us as the measuring stick, even tho its apparent that we aren't doing it right. Our noses are in other country's affairs, while we have problems of our own. We should be a self reliant nation!! LETS FIX OUR PROBLEMS. we don't need anyone else!! they need us

  • continued... @scarpozzi, ALL other things fall into place, and the American Dream is realized when the economy is good, no matter what issues press our nation. the idea of every man pays for the next is good in theory, but the reality is, most of us are left in the cold. Is that Liberty? People came here through centuries believing that America can provide what their native lands couldn't or wouldn't, only to become another number, rich or poor. And that is not Liberty!

  • @scarpozzi i too am in a tax bracket that isnt high enough to make any significant difference, but, the problem is.. people all over the country are divided. U lean to the left, some lean towards the right, alot more of us are somewhere in the middle! Since 1776 we have all been divided! WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ACHIEVE LIBERTY? is it more laws, is it more tax? As an American, don't you believe that you should be able to make as much money as you possibly can with no limits?

  • Why are these people standing up? Are they leaving? Already? He just started talking.

  • @Ryoka242 also i stand by my comment about a responsible budget. you can't say Clinton turned it around at all. Unemployment sure.. but the economy wasn't GREAT during the Clinton years. Clinton just like all Democrats, taxed us to near-death! So Bush's tax cuts only gave all of us, including you, a break from the Gov. reaching their grubby little fingers into our pockets, as if they need more money.. Bankrupt for decades but they will still print money! Democrats are just as shifty my friend

  • @magic42378 - I tend to lean to the left on taxation issues because I'm not in a high enough tax bracket for it to make a huge difference. Clinton did great things for the world economy when he was in office. The only downside is that NAFTA opened the door for manufacturing to go out of the country and now to China. We are losing pay, but are able to buy goods that we don't need cheaper than ever. I just hope American business will be able to take over again when China starts raising prices

  • @Ryoka242 Ummm yea i saw "tha Clinton years" im still trying to recover!! Broj.. you took my comment out of context.. Bush's tax cuts werent the problem.. FUNDING A USELESS WAR was the problem. The point i was trying to make is, (and you almost hit it on the head when u said "if it wasnt for Bush's...") how does any American expect to solve ANY problem when presidents are eligible for ONLY 8 years at max? will anybody's plan work in ONLY 8 years? weather its about the deficit or anything else

  • and for the record.. we haven't had a responsible budget since before the Reagan Administration!!

  • @magic42378 Did you ever see the Clinton Years? Yes his personal life was quite controversial, but he had the highest job growth in 30 years(more than reagan). He also turned the budget around, if it wasnt for Bush's tax cuts we would have not had a deficitin 2010.

  • its all tricks.. ask yourselves who owns the media, and then pay attention to how many different directions you are pulled in your philosophical idea of what it takes to achieve Liberty in this country depending on what news network you watch!! a wise man once said that "Democracy is the best, and, worst form of government" Why do you think that is?? Its because everyone gets a vote, and there are simply too many ideas about what it takes to achieve Liberty. You should have to pass a test!!

  • Funny that the majority of the nation feel this government is headed in the wrong direction. Nov is coming and will prove this polls correct. People who never ran a business or balanced a budget, shouldn't be in charge of the US Budget. Oh no, this Congress has no budget.

  • Your generalization "...feel this government is headed in the wrong direction," is that the media who's supposed to be Pro-Obama or Fox propaganda who's "reporting"? We haven't had a responsible budget for the last 10 years. Think about this: "Senate Republicans rejected a bill to aid small businesses with expanded loan programs and tax breaks" Look it up. It's not about Republicans and Democrats; it's ALL about Republicans economic failures. Click "see all" to read my debate with wsoxman.

  • @69erstud So you think this government is doing a good job and what the majority of American CITIZENS want? Blame Bush and Blame Fox. Typical liberal BULLSHIT. No positive anything senses the Dems took over Congress 3.5 years ago. Now go watch Keith Olbermann for a laugh

  • @wsoxman You haven't brought any valid argument. All you've done is make an assumption that I like Obama. You think (hmmm.. oxymoron) that you know what American's want but you're very far from it. You'll have to blame Bush for at least $500B per year spending until we get the economy back from the recession AND get out of Iraq. What kind of idiot goes to war without proper funding? As for Fox, I don't blame them at all; I blame idiots like you for believing the crap they feed you.

  • there is absolutely no question that fox's actions was based on biased. no offense intended on anyone specifically, but anyone who believes otherwise is also ignorant

  • @Bobselete  Ya watch MSNBC for the facts and balanced reporting?

  • money

  • haha dude, its kinda funny cus you're kinda doin the same thing for most of the people that watch your vids, with the i report u decide, but most of the people that watch ur vids immediately believe u but the differrence is that u also back ur shit up

  • fox news is getting more and more popular for not reporting the whole story and simply spinning stories out to fit their agenda.

  • Please Mr. President. Take a few weeks off and stay away from the teleprompter.

    Your word sure don't inspire most Americans. And for sure not investors.

  • Does Obama EVER talk in front of REGULAR Americans? Every speech (and there are tons of them) are in front of nothing but the HOME Crowd. I love to see Obama talk to a TEA PARTY group and say the BULLSHIT he spreads. 4 years and out.

    Even Clinton the blow job man, has higher approval rating.

  • @wsoxman,

    >>I love to see Obama talk to a TEA PARTY group

    '

    Why would he waste his breath on a group that collectively has the mentality of a 2 year old? I mean come on, to the tea party crowd Sarah Palin is an "intellectual". LOL

  • @BootBazaar Right, The Tea Party folks are just dummies compared to the elitist eggheads in Washington and in the media. Nov is coming down the Liberal's throats. Liberals make up about 20% of the population. 67% of Americans think that this government is going in the wrong direction. I guess Obama doesn't feel he needs to have a conversation us Americans or the media.

    He would sooner play to his "soft " ex poser to the country.

    He would sooner go on "THE VIEW" and "LETTERMAN" shows.

  • @wsoxman,

    I don't follow polls as I prefer to follow the real world, not people's "interpretation of the real world". If that many people think the gov is going in the wrong direction then there are a lot of ignorant people. If you care to debate me on that, give it a try and see how well you do... and I'm going to be going out of town Aug 1st through the 8th so better make it quick. :-)

    '

    And we both know you wouldn't listen to a word he said even if he did come to a tea party rally.

  • @BootBazaar So 9.5 unemployment is getting improving the economy? The Stock market is stuck on the year 2000. Health insurance premiums will increase (per CBO) $13 trillion in Debt and record high. 12 million fucking illegal aliens continue to suck the tit of the taxpayers and Democrats are just looking for votes. I sure hope that State start suing the Federal government for not enforcing existing immigration laws.

  • @wsoxman, >>So 9.5 unemployment is getting improving the economy? ' The job loss rate is decreasing, so yes this is an improvement: blueollie.wordpressDOTcom/2010­/02/18/the-obama-stimulus-job-­loss-graph-the-mathematics/ ' More recent chart here: blsDOTgov/news.release/pdf/emp­sit.pdf ' Another source, 726,000 jobs lost per month before stimulus, as of February was down to 35,000. politifactDOTcom/truth-o-meter­/statements/2010/feb/17/joe-bi­den/biden-says-job-losses-have­-fallen-750000-month-350/
  • @wsoxman,

    >>The Stock market is stuck on the year 2000.

    '

    LOL! Did you forget where the stock market was headed and what it had to come up from?

    bigcharts.marketwatchDOTcom/qu­ickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=d­jia&sid=1643&o_symb=djia&freq=­2&time=10

  • @wsoxman,

    >> The Stock market is stuck on the year 2000.

    '

    LOL! Did you forget where where the stock market came up from?

    bigcharts.marketwatchDOTcom/qu­ickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=d­jia&sid=1643&o_symb=djia&freq=­2&time=10

    '

    >> Health insurance premiums will increase

    '

    Sorry, wrong!

    politifactDOTcom/truth-o-meter­/statements/2010/jan/28/nancy-­pfotenhauer/health-care-reform­-does-not-increase-premiums-an­d-/

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  • @wsoxman,

    >> $13? trillion in Debt

    '

    Well, what do you do when your car breaks down? You spend money to get it fixed, right? Unfortunately, when the previous pres broke the country, we now gotta spend money to get it fixed. The bank bailouts, stimulus, tarp, all necessary to keep us out of a DEPRESSION where we would have been in WAY worse shape.

  • @wsoxman,

    Dept continued...

    '

    The assets of the 6 largest banks total 63% of our national GDP.

    politifactDOTcom/truth-o-meter­/statements/2010/apr/27/sherro­d-brown/six-largest-banks-gett­ing-bigger-brown-said/

    So you tell me what would have happened if the banks had gone under. They have so much wealth that we couldn't afford to let them go under without devastating the economy. And Obama tried to split the larger banks up, but the senate blocked it (big freaking surprise).

  • @wsoxman,

    Government spending is THE greatest way to stimulate the economy, see the chart a little over mid-way down this page:

    economyDOTcom/dismal/article_f­reeDOTasp?cid=119925

    '

    Republicans got "tax cuts" into the stimulus which is a complete WASTE OF MONEY according to that chart and also according to nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz (who predicted the economic crash):

    money.cnnDOTcom/2010/04/19/mag­azines/moneymag/joseph_stiglit­z_economy.moneymag/index.htm

  • @BootBazaar The government has NEVER provide long term private sector jobs without paying off Unions and special interest groups. No one can prove that a jobs saved was really at risk. All Government jobs like the 16k to run the stinking health care boondoggle. Keep drinking the Obama KOOL Aid.

    The private sector got us into this mess and it will get us out. Investors sure don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. Hows your 401k?

  • @wsoxman,

    >>No one can prove that a jobs saved was really at risk.

    '

    Correct, and that's NOT what I'm arguing. I'm arguing with the recorded DATA of the actual jobs lost over past months and my argument is based on the recorded FACT (per the Bureau of Labor Statistics) that the job loss rate is decreasing.

  • @BootBazaar Again, Government spending dollars we don't have is not the answer.

    There are to many people like Obama that think they know what is best for us.

    The stock market will be above 12000 someday. My guess is your boy will take credit. Hell, he is taking credit for getting out of the wars. RIGHT? Is Obama ever in the White House? Like he is running for the office everyday.

  • @wsoxman,

    Your arguments are getting to be quite pathetic and repetitive now.

    '

    Actually, gov spending IS the answer, if you'd bother to take some time and actually READ the links I've provided for you maybe you would learn enough to quit talking in circles. I've posted links to economyDOTcom, politifactDOTcom, factcheckDOTorg, nobel prize winning economists, etc. that back up my arguments... But I guess if you don't read them you can just pretend these facts don't exist. LOL

  • @BootBazaar I never trust anyone that says "The Fact of the matter is...........

    I'm cheering on the great Obama to prove me wrong, but his leadership has shown his lack of experience in leading anything.

  • @wsoxman,

    >> I'm cheering on the great Obama to prove me wrong,

    >> but his leadership has shown his lack of experience

    >> in leading anything.

    '

    Oh give me a break. You expect me to believe you're cheering Obama on to prove you wrong after ignoring all the links I posted and throwing the faux news playbook at me? You want to be proved wrong, see my website, I've got tons of stuff there.

    freewebsDOTcom/bootbazaar

    '

    Check out sites like politifactDOTcom, factcheckDOTorg, & snopesDOTcom/politics.

  • @wsoxman,

    And I just love how you GOP hypocrites change flip flop your positions on the drop of a dime. You were ready to throw all these unemployment, economic conditions, etc and blame them on Obama when you "thought" they were getting worse, but once I provided evidence to the contrary all of a sudden Obama can't take credit for it? HA! That's friggin' hilarious!

  • @BootBazaar Name me one person that got a job from the DUMB stimulus Pork spending bill....that was not a government job. Don't hurt your brain now.

    Stinking government and their political parties have DIVIDED Americans. Vote all the bums out. Why do have people in office for 30-5o years? Tells you that the "fix" is on and us citizens are paying for their spending.

  • @wsoxman,

    >>Name me one person that got a job from the DUMB

    >>stimulus Pork spending bill....that was not a government job.

    '

    And your arguments keep getting more pathetic and desperate. What part of I'm not trying to argue jobs "saved" or jobs "created" do you not understand? Both of these are ESTIMATES and thus cannot be argued definitively. To count the jobs created by the stimulus they compare employment statistics and an estimate of the numbers would have been had there been no stimulus.

  • @wsoxman,

    Therefore, I stick to things that can be argued definitively as they are MEASUREMENTS and not ESTIMATES. You can look at charts like the job loss rate and the DOW charts and see that after passing stimulus those number started TURNING AROUND. You can see on the economyDOTcom like I gave you that the same thing happened with the GDP... Again, another MEASUREMENT not an estimate.

  • @BootBazaar "THE GDP REPORT MAY EASE some fears that the U.S. is heading for a double-dip recession….But it also confirms widespread concerns about a sharp economic slowdown," commented The Wall Street Journal. 7/30"

    Consumer confidence is in this shitter. People are saving more then spending. Why? Because they have no clue what this government has planned in taxes and laws. Continue to read the DEM playbook. Maybe someone other liberals will believe. Every time Obama talks, the DOW Down.

  • @wsoxman,

    >>Continue to read the DEM playbook.

    LOL! Great comeback, the sites I have been giving you have all been independent sites economyDOTcom, politfactDOTcom, and factcheckDOTorg. Please point me to ONE link I posted that was from the "dem" playbook.

  • @BootBazaar Funny how the Liberals like you, will sooner talk about Fox News, Bush or the stinking Chicago Cubs. Fact..................investor­s do not like this administration. People's 401k are in the toilet because this government keeps changing the rules or is not trusted. Can't Obama stay off TV for one day?

    What part of sitting in the pews for 20 years, and never questioning the message from the racist Wright? Yeap, get mad at Fox News for Pointing that out..

  • @wsoxman,

    Actually, I could care less about faux as faux has no power in and of itself, but it's the VOTERS who watch faux AND believe the BS they spew on it that I care about. Therefore, in order to prove to people like you that your beliefs are wrong, we have to talk about the source of your mis-information that is faux.

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    On the "racist Wright", I get mad at Faux news for lying about it.

    factcheckDOTorg/elections-2008­/sliming_obama.html

  • @wsoxman,

    And you want to talk 'facts', well here they are:

    Job loss rate was increasing and right before the stimulus there were 726,000 jobs lost PER MONTH. Since the stimulus (now over a year and a half later) the job loss rate has been steadily decreasing:

    blsDOTgov/news.release/pdf/emp­sit.pdf

    '

    Prior to stimulus the DOW had been decreasing and after stimulus DOW has been increasing:

    bigcharts.marketwatchDOTcom/qu­ickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=d­jia&sid=&o_symb=djia&freq=2&ti­me=10

  • @wsoxman,

    One more from economyDOTcom.

    How we know the stimulus is working:

    economyDOTcom/dismal/article_f­reeDOTasp?cid=119925

  • @wsoxman,

    >>People are saving more then spending. Why?

    '

    Because republicans fought so hard to get TAX CUTS into the stimulus and here is what the nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz said about that (you know, one of my links you refuse to read).

    '

    "But when people face an overhang of debt and uncertainty in the labor market, if you give them a check or tax break they're going to save a lot of it. That's perfectly good for their own security, but it doesn't stimulate the economy."

  • @wsoxman,

    >>Because they have no clue what this government has planned in taxes

    '

    What Obama has planned is to let the Bush tax cuts (which HURT our economy, which you'd also know if you read my links) expire on those making over $200,000 a year (that's the top 2.6% of incomes in the country).

  • @wsoxman

    >> Every time Obama talks, the DOW Down.

    '

    BWAHAHAHA! And you accuse ME of talking out of the dem playbook when you literally ripped that dumbass comment right off of faux? You have confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a GOP troll after that one.

    '

    Jump to 6:00 in this video for the comment you just ripped off of faux:

    thedailyshowDOTcom/watch/thu-o­ctober-29-2009/for-fox-sake-

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    Haha!!! You are so ridiculous it's funny.

  • @wsoxman,

    You want to get into these bull crap arguments that cannot be proved one way or the other, well I won't get sucked into that... I stick to the facts.

    '

    >> Stinking government and their political parties have

    >> DIVIDED Americans.

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    Now that I agree with... It has divided Americans into those who choose to pay attention to the FACTS and those who choose to pay attention to falsified BS like Ayers, Acorn, Rev. Wright, Hitler, Nazis, Communism, Death Panels, Rezko, etc. and etc...

  • @wsoxman "The private sector got us into this mess and it will get us out. "

    If you believe that the private sector has the answer to the problems they created, the obvious question is: "Why did the private sector lead us to a recession/depression in the 1st place?"

    You followed it up INSANELY stating: "Investors sure don't see any light .."

    Investors = are or are supporters of private sector

    B4 you reply & make yourself sound more foolish, study economics & history at the collegiate level.

  • @69erstud Typical "elites" post. Again, NO WHERE in the history of the USA, has the Government improved the economy. They only spend dollars we don't have. Pork4 Votes

    Investors are sitting on the side line with $trillions. They like me, have concern in investing in markets that don't now what future taxes or RULES are. This government gives the private sector no reason to be confident. The government just throws money at a problem and Hopes it works. So now tell me just what is a Job Saved?

  • @wsoxman "Elite" post? You're the one who is "sitting" on the sidelines with money waiting to invest. If you invest $20K reap $2K in dividends, and get taxed 50% ... is 5% ROI better or worse than 4.75% or less pre-taxed CD? Let me say this again: IF CORPORATIONS and Private COMPANIES stop outsourcing jobs and factories to other countries, there will be more money to spent by US consumers and the GDP will increase, lowering our deficit at the same time. Simplified economics.

  • @ ...unemployment decreases, morale boosts for common employees, more tax collected w/o tax increases. Stop countries from depending on US defense and stop subsidizing Germany, UK, Israel, etc.; we'll save trillions in a 5 year period. Tax cuts for businesses that actually have 90% of their production in the US, and deeper tax cuts to businesses that have Exec's earn no more than 5X the salary of the lowest paid employees and give credits to Foreign companies who manufacture products in the US.

  • Unlike politicians and CEO's, I have a plan & understand the economy and business psychology more comprehensively because I know that historically, Republicans economic policies have not worked in almost a century. Most businesses will not do anything for you (the common person) if it does not benefit their companies or executives. W/ that in mind, we should have incentives to bring back jobs to the US. Because the rest of the world, in this global economy, is not kicking our collective asses.

  • @69erstud I don't know what planet you came from but the programs that republicans have employed. let's take reagan for example. our economy tripled under his leadership. You can't get out of a hole by digging it deeper, what obama is doing is using MY tax dollars to artificialy create government jobs is BS! I own a lawn business and everything obama is doing flys in the face of my success. Small business is what creates jobs, not government spending. Reagan understood this.

  • @nathanial41 LMFAO... Do you know ANYTHING about history and economics? Under Reagan the economy sucked so much so (just in case you forgot) we have the Stock market crash of 1987 AND a savings and loans scandal that started the total repeal of the Glass Steagall act and once totally repealed in 1999, by Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act it set into motion the economic collapse of the 2007 til present. You better know your economics and history because you will lose this debate.

  • 2ndly, You are whining about Obama's policy that will accumulate national debt... FROM Wiki: "Reagan's tax policies pushed both the international transactions current account and the federal budget into deficit and led to a significant increase in public debt. National debt more than tripled from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during Reagan's tenure. " By Rule of 72, that is over $6 Trillion in today's $. In addition, the avg. hourly earnings had a sharp decline from 1980 to '88

  • Last, again from wiki: "...Reagan's policies stem from Tax Reform Act of 1986 and its impact on the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). The tax reform would ostensibly reduce or eliminate tax deductions. This legislation expanded the AMT from a law for untaxed rich investors to one refocused on middle class Americans who had children, owned a home, or lived in high tax states.[39] ...

  • ...This parallel tax system hit middle class Americans the hardest by reducing their deductions and effectively raising their taxes. Meanwhile, the highest income earners (with incomes exceeding $1,000,000) were proportionately less affected, thereby shifting the tax burden away from the richest 0.5% to poorer Americans"

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  • @wsoxman,

    @wsoxman,

    >> 12 million fucking illegal aliens continue to suck the tit of

    >> the taxpayers and Democrats are just looking for votes.

    '

    For one thing, a large portion of them entered this country legally:

    politifactDOTcom/florida/state­ments/2010/jan/18/marco-rubio/­fla-republican-rubio-says-clos­e-half-illegal-immig/

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    And two, "immigration, legal or illegal, doesn't hurt American workers."

    factcheckDOTorg/2010/05/does-i­mmigration-cost-jobs/

  • @wsoxman,

    Immigration continued.

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    There is also more border patrol now than anytime since the early 90's.

    politifactDOTcom/truth-o-meter­/statements/2010/jul/02/barack­-obama/us-has-more-border-patr­ol-agents-border-mexico-eve/

  • @wsoxman,

    In conclusion, to be PERFECTLY CLEAR, I just want to state that I'm not saying everything is fantastic... Obama was handed one hell of a mess and it's going to take time to get out of it. However, I think I have put forward more than enough evidence to show that things are indeed IMPROVING and moving in the RIGHT DIRECTION.

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    And that is just scratching the tip of the iceberg. I've got quite a collection of info on my website, if you care to check it out:

    freewebsDOTcom/bootbazaar

  • @BootBazaar Ya telling the millions of people that Did not have their jobs saved the economy is improving. Tell my local schools and taxing districts that things are getting better. Maybe for Al Gore. How is the largest nation debt in history, IMPROVING? My grand kids will be paying for the boondoggle Stimulus PORK spending. Payoff the unions is Dems main goal.

  • @wsoxman,

    Apparently you didn't read my last post. And I thought I stated it pretty clearly too. :(

    '

    Even though the job loss rate is DECREASING it still means that people are loosing their jobs, but it is continually getting smaller. 726,000 jobs lost PER MONTH before the stimulus is a freaking huge number to start with. The economy doesn't turn on a dime. It took many years to get us in this mess and it'll take a long time to get out. But at least we are moving in the right direction.

  • @wsoxman,

    >> How is the largest nation debt in history, IMPROVING?

    '

    I already covered that with this link (see the question "Now the President and others are talking about budget cuts. Does that make sense?")

    money.cnnDOTcom/2010/04/19/mag­azines/moneymag/joseph_stiglit­z_economy.moneymag/index.htm/