Wow, they walked topless and some Israelis blocked and intersection. Big fuckin' deal. Gimme a break. And now "anarchists" are working at Starbucks? Non-Anarchists work there too, so what? LOL!
Wow! Thanks so much. The greatest ever? I'm humbled by your kind words; being a fan of logic you realize that simply stating something is logically fallacious is not sufficient so I look forward to seeing your video response to see how you come to your conclusion. Thanks again and Merry Christmas!
Anarcho-capitalism is a completely incoherent position, capitalism could never function without government, as much as capitalists may hate it. Obviously the majority of anarcho-capitalists are too retarded to realize this.
you forgot the EZLN. but yeah, excellent vid, we're the ones doing something, fighting back against the corporate empire, and we'll be the one's to bring it down.
I really liked your video, and agree with your central premise, but one nit to pick...
Some non-anarcho-capitalist anarchists aren't technically socialists, but do participate alongside other anarchists in activism. I'm thinking of individualist anarchists, mutualists, etc.
Hinges on exactly what is meant by socialism, I know, and there aren't -that- many of them.. . but they're around.
A nit well picked, my friend. The problem is that few of the "Market Anarchists" we see on YT are mutualists to any degree. Most of what we see is really a variation on Randian Capitalism...the kind espoused by Milton Friedman.
sorry, but anarchism is not against a government lead by the people in a rank and file system. It IS agaisnt the state, all states(for they have borders to marginalize the people) and is against this government. keep your "hint, hint" for thing you dont read out of a book that is written by capitalist and this government. Anarchy is a state where there is no hierarchy. not destruction.
look what up? and of course we have yet another person that belittles others who dont agree with them. I bet you "punk"duck is listening to choas UK right now singing , "were being victimized for wearing strange cloths" right now.
Couldn't disagree more, but I appreciate you stopping by. I'd agree with Guerin when he writes that anarchism is not, "a fixed, self-enclosed social system but rather a definite trend in the historic development of mankind...."
The right anarchists hero is someone like Lysander Spooner. These people have nothing in common with the socialist anarchists. I have more in common with the libertarian left than with any ideology on the right.
Well that's because anarchists oppose capitalism. I'm not saying you deserve a beating (I don't think that)but I do understand why anarchists react so violently to anarcho-capitalists.
The phrase "anarcho-capitalist" is a contradiction in terms. Anarchism is working class struggle without leaders, without hierarchy, without coercion. It is the unfettered fight for a society based on workers control of production and distribution and direct democracy.
yeah the definition of anarchy does indeed mean "without rulers", however its historical content as a movement is far more complex and specific and its most notable form is that which is embodied in autonomous class struggle
Anarchy means without rulers, therefore any ideology that doesn't have a government is anarchy, so although most anarchists have a class conflict component in their literature, that does not mean that someone who has a different historical ideal does not qualify as an anarchist.
People who throw bombs and engage in arson are not anarchists. Holding up people who use violence as examples of anarchists is demeaning and rather absurd.
Such behavior is precisely what gives people the wrong impression about anarchism and makes them think that it's absolute chaos and violence.
There are two kinds of anarchists: philosophical anarchists and revolutionary anarchists. Revolutionary anarchists choose to make noise in the streets and hold signs, which probably accomplishes nothing at all. Just because there aren't anarcho-capitalists wearing silly black hoods it doesn't mean there's no anarcho-capitalist movement. Anarcho-capitalism is a philosophical movement, and is therefore probably more effect than marching around the streets and vandalizing private property.
Yeah it's silly to try to stop war, fight fascism, feed people, and organize fellow workers. Sitting around thinking about it...does what? Basically what you're saying is there are anarchists who really believe in it and go out into the world and practice it, and then there are guys like you who would rather sit at home and think about it. Oh, and the black hoods aren't so silly when you're trying to avoid being killed by the police. They're actually rather pragmatic devices.
Go out and in the world and practice what? Engaging in terrorism, carrying signs, yelling, throwing bombs? Real admirable. And "fight fascism" as the Spanish "anarchists" did by murdering people, confiscating money, and then teaming up with the fascists?
Zinn has referred to himself as an anarchist on numerous occasions. I don't doubt he's a Marxist, either. Actually I really don't see a contradiction there. Marx was a social pathologist. Das Kapital is an analysis of Capitalism. I certainly think Left Marxists are "fellow travelers"
Especially the Luxemburgists. You do know that Parenti isn't a left Marxist? He's actually more along the lines of Lenin, but with some revisions. I used to be a anarcho-lefty, seriously. The more Parenti I read the more statist I've become.
Yes, but he freaks me out. He's very charismatic, but I disagree with him on certain things. For example, he encourages no voting in bourgeous elections. Members of his party are Sunsara Taylor *World Can't Wait* and Larry Everest *Leading Expert on the Bopal Massacre by Dow Chemical*
Yeah I like Sunsara. She's pretty cool. I don't agree with Avakian on a lot of things but his analysis of capitalism and the system are pretty accurate.
The only thing I find peculiar about Sunsara is her appreciation of Mao. Like Stalinists, I cannot wrap my head around someone embracing the ideas of Mao.
I don't know much about her. But I did love watching her rip Bil Oreilley a new one. That was funny. I think the whole RCP are Maoists, or at least that's been my impression.
The RCP have practically a cult-like affiliation around Bob Avakain, read one of their newspapers, its pretty obvious. Then of course there is the whole problem with Maoism which I need not go into. I actually got into a debate with one of them at the US Social Forum, which I was referenced to one of their leaders who would be able to "point out some historical facts I might not have been aware of" (due to the inability of the member to keep up); one of my memorable moments.
Yeah a favorite of mine, whenever I'm around them, is to ask "Where's Bob?" That's a tightly kept secret, of course. But their reactions to the question are usually quite amusing.
The most important work of Marx is Das Kapital. His greatest book wasn't called "Socialism"; it's a book describing capitalism. I certainly don't see a contradiction, because in the early communist movement, there were anarcho-syndicalists in there. Emma Goldman supported the Bolsheviks in the beginning. BTW, Howard Zinn wrote an excellent play called "Marx in Soho."
Marx in Soho was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen, all credit to Zinn on that one. (I believe theres a few clips of it on youtube, a few being at the US Social forum where I originally saw it)
Wait, was Zinn an anarchist? I know he was a socialist, but was he a anarchist?
InvincibleNumanist 1 month ago
Wow, they walked topless and some Israelis blocked and intersection. Big fuckin' deal. Gimme a break. And now "anarchists" are working at Starbucks? Non-Anarchists work there too, so what? LOL!
MacoutesGabber 1 year ago
Seems ironic. Let's organize together for anarchy LOL. Just saying.
g4macdad 1 year ago
maybe the greatest straw man argument i have ever heard. ever.
psychiatristman00 2 years ago
Wow! Thanks so much. The greatest ever? I'm humbled by your kind words; being a fan of logic you realize that simply stating something is logically fallacious is not sufficient so I look forward to seeing your video response to see how you come to your conclusion. Thanks again and Merry Christmas!
buddhagem 2 years ago
Thanks for this.
Anarcho-capitalism is a completely incoherent position, capitalism could never function without government, as much as capitalists may hate it. Obviously the majority of anarcho-capitalists are too retarded to realize this.
Victory to the libertarian revolution!
Olly420 2 years ago
So basically because people have miss-labeling these socialist as anarchist for hundreds of years we shouldn't stop now?
And because you're able to find hundreds of other misinformed people you think you're arguments are legitimatized?
What do socialist do when there is Absence of Argument and Dialectic? Appeal to Emotions. BRAVO!
Socialism requires the existence of a collective that DOES NOT EXIST IN ANARCHISM.
Capitalism exist and will continue to exist with or without Anarchism.
XericJager 3 years ago
Umm...that list of anarchists Prodhun, Bakunin, Kroptkin, etc, were the original anarchists and they were very much socialists
couch13 3 years ago
That was funny. Thanks.
buddhagem 2 years ago
@XericJager
lol, so the original definition is wrong?
Proudhon who was the first person to coin the term anarchist (and who was a socialist) was wrong, whereas Rothbard who came later on was right?
cool story bro
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
you forgot the EZLN. but yeah, excellent vid, we're the ones doing something, fighting back against the corporate empire, and we'll be the one's to bring it down.
anarcrustie 3 years ago
Nice video buddhagem. We need for these people to stop marching against us, but instead to march with us as a part of the anarchist world.
kittiest34 3 years ago
Right On! A Las Barricadas!
slackmason 3 years ago
Franc28 reminds me a lot of Barney from The Simpsons. Just an observation..
Kropotkin2000 4 years ago
Franc28 reminds me of Hillary from Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, only a little bit skinnier.
SupremeMaggot 3 years ago
I really liked your video, and agree with your central premise, but one nit to pick...
Some non-anarcho-capitalist anarchists aren't technically socialists, but do participate alongside other anarchists in activism. I'm thinking of individualist anarchists, mutualists, etc.
Hinges on exactly what is meant by socialism, I know, and there aren't -that- many of them.. . but they're around.
dirkcjelli 4 years ago
A nit well picked, my friend. The problem is that few of the "Market Anarchists" we see on YT are mutualists to any degree. Most of what we see is really a variation on Randian Capitalism...the kind espoused by Milton Friedman.
Nevertheless, a valid point.
Thank you.
buddhagem 4 years ago
@buddhagem well no, milton friedman agreed with central banking, most (if not all) anarcho capitalists are austrians and are against central banking.
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
Anarchy and anarchism are different
anarchy:a state of chaos and destruction with no leader
anarchism: is a political theory that rejects the authority of government
hint hint?
DiLlOnMrT 4 years ago
sorry, but anarchism is not against a government lead by the people in a rank and file system. It IS agaisnt the state, all states(for they have borders to marginalize the people) and is against this government. keep your "hint, hint" for thing you dont read out of a book that is written by capitalist and this government. Anarchy is a state where there is no hierarchy. not destruction.
redanok 4 years ago
Look it up dumb asss
punkduck123 4 years ago
look what up? and of course we have yet another person that belittles others who dont agree with them. I bet you "punk"duck is listening to choas UK right now singing , "were being victimized for wearing strange cloths" right now.
crustsword 4 years ago
Couldn't disagree more, but I appreciate you stopping by. I'd agree with Guerin when he writes that anarchism is not, "a fixed, self-enclosed social system but rather a definite trend in the historic development of mankind...."
buddhagem 4 years ago
great video well done
ghost74surfer 4 years ago
The right anarchists hero is someone like Lysander Spooner. These people have nothing in common with the socialist anarchists. I have more in common with the libertarian left than with any ideology on the right.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
@westphalianprinz whats wrong with spooner?
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
5 STARS and I heard some rage against the machine there.Great Band.
91jbAs 4 years ago
Thanks a bunch
buddhagem 4 years ago
Fuck Capitalism !
Great Job you are doing there, i myself wouln´t have the nerves to answer this capitalist idiot !
Thanks, and keep em coming ;)
damuschka 4 years ago
I can't march with my fellow anarcho-socialists in Sweden. I would get beaten like my aquintances almost got.
lordmetroid 4 years ago
Well that's because anarchists oppose capitalism. I'm not saying you deserve a beating (I don't think that)but I do understand why anarchists react so violently to anarcho-capitalists.
buddhagem 4 years ago
Yup, nutty as a fruitcake.
kylben 4 years ago
The phrase "anarcho-capitalist" is a contradiction in terms. Anarchism is working class struggle without leaders, without hierarchy, without coercion. It is the unfettered fight for a society based on workers control of production and distribution and direct democracy.
didz83 4 years ago
Anarchy means no rulers, nothing more, nothing less.
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
yeah the definition of anarchy does indeed mean "without rulers", however its historical content as a movement is far more complex and specific and its most notable form is that which is embodied in autonomous class struggle
didz83 4 years ago 2
Anarchy means without rulers, therefore any ideology that doesn't have a government is anarchy, so although most anarchists have a class conflict component in their literature, that does not mean that someone who has a different historical ideal does not qualify as an anarchist.
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
no for sure.
didz83 4 years ago
People who throw bombs and engage in arson are not anarchists. Holding up people who use violence as examples of anarchists is demeaning and rather absurd.
Such behavior is precisely what gives people the wrong impression about anarchism and makes them think that it's absolute chaos and violence.
brainpolice2 4 years ago
There are two kinds of anarchists: philosophical anarchists and revolutionary anarchists. Revolutionary anarchists choose to make noise in the streets and hold signs, which probably accomplishes nothing at all. Just because there aren't anarcho-capitalists wearing silly black hoods it doesn't mean there's no anarcho-capitalist movement. Anarcho-capitalism is a philosophical movement, and is therefore probably more effect than marching around the streets and vandalizing private property.
LeeGeeGee 4 years ago
Yeah it's silly to try to stop war, fight fascism, feed people, and organize fellow workers. Sitting around thinking about it...does what? Basically what you're saying is there are anarchists who really believe in it and go out into the world and practice it, and then there are guys like you who would rather sit at home and think about it. Oh, and the black hoods aren't so silly when you're trying to avoid being killed by the police. They're actually rather pragmatic devices.
buddhagem 4 years ago
Go out and in the world and practice what? Engaging in terrorism, carrying signs, yelling, throwing bombs? Real admirable. And "fight fascism" as the Spanish "anarchists" did by murdering people, confiscating money, and then teaming up with the fascists?
LeeGeeGee 4 years ago
Lies... and I'd have thought an anarcho-capitalist wouldn't be echoing Stalinist lies.
dirkcjelli 4 years ago
Well, we aren't really just sitting around thinking. We actually produce vast amount of media on the subject.
lordmetroid 4 years ago
Fair enough. That's certainly true. Good point.
buddhagem 4 years ago
Your videos are very informative and well thought out great job!
buddhagemprincess 4 years ago
When I used to be an anarcho-syndicalist, I had to make these arguments constantly. (Howard Zinn is a bit more of Marxist than an Anarchist).
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Zinn has referred to himself as an anarchist on numerous occasions. I don't doubt he's a Marxist, either. Actually I really don't see a contradiction there. Marx was a social pathologist. Das Kapital is an analysis of Capitalism. I certainly think Left Marxists are "fellow travelers"
buddhagem 4 years ago
Especially the Luxemburgists. You do know that Parenti isn't a left Marxist? He's actually more along the lines of Lenin, but with some revisions. I used to be a anarcho-lefty, seriously. The more Parenti I read the more statist I've become.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Parenti is convincing, that's to be sure. Are you familiar with Bob Avakian?
buddhagem 4 years ago
Yes, but he freaks me out. He's very charismatic, but I disagree with him on certain things. For example, he encourages no voting in bourgeous elections. Members of his party are Sunsara Taylor *World Can't Wait* and Larry Everest *Leading Expert on the Bopal Massacre by Dow Chemical*
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Yeah I like Sunsara. She's pretty cool. I don't agree with Avakian on a lot of things but his analysis of capitalism and the system are pretty accurate.
buddhagem 4 years ago
The only thing I find peculiar about Sunsara is her appreciation of Mao. Like Stalinists, I cannot wrap my head around someone embracing the ideas of Mao.
Questionablescum 4 years ago
I don't know much about her. But I did love watching her rip Bil Oreilley a new one. That was funny. I think the whole RCP are Maoists, or at least that's been my impression.
buddhagem 4 years ago
The RCP have practically a cult-like affiliation around Bob Avakain, read one of their newspapers, its pretty obvious. Then of course there is the whole problem with Maoism which I need not go into. I actually got into a debate with one of them at the US Social Forum, which I was referenced to one of their leaders who would be able to "point out some historical facts I might not have been aware of" (due to the inability of the member to keep up); one of my memorable moments.
LaughingMan0X 4 years ago
Yeah a favorite of mine, whenever I'm around them, is to ask "Where's Bob?" That's a tightly kept secret, of course. But their reactions to the question are usually quite amusing.
buddhagem 4 years ago
Yes, Chairman "Bob" must be kept out of reach of "the tentacles of global capitalism" in his French Ivory Tower.
LaughingMan0X 4 years ago
The most important work of Marx is Das Kapital. His greatest book wasn't called "Socialism"; it's a book describing capitalism. I certainly don't see a contradiction, because in the early communist movement, there were anarcho-syndicalists in there. Emma Goldman supported the Bolsheviks in the beginning. BTW, Howard Zinn wrote an excellent play called "Marx in Soho."
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
I had no idea Zinn had written a play. That sounds interesting. Thanks.
buddhagem 4 years ago
It's about Marx living in exile in London. It's where his ideas became crystalized.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Marx in Soho was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen, all credit to Zinn on that one. (I believe theres a few clips of it on youtube, a few being at the US Social forum where I originally saw it)
LaughingMan0X 4 years ago
5*****, again.
schizoapriori 4 years ago