@lovelylibragirl79 LOL!! Joseph learned a lot from them older brothers. Think he had sex with those midgets? !!! Those midgets didn't stand a chance around Joseph, he probably found a way to hit them at the same time!! lol
@zeakg Hahahahaha!!! yea, I have that pic. It's too funny to me. but they look like their sitting on the floor of the set soundstage. And yea, that's joseph haha. guzzling smirnoff. When I first saw this Pic I was Like: He got to be puttin on? He doesn't drink? Well, apparently he does. I also have a pic of him holding a can of budweiser with bruce springsteen. Joseph knows how to unwind after a hard day. lol
@lovelylibragirl79 Some say it was on the set of captain eo where the picture was taken. Perhaps it could have, just maybe, nah get out of here, JOE?!!
@lovelylibragirl79 You are sooooo right!! Hey did you see the picture of one them on mediatakeout ?!! One of twins (I say Joseph) sitting on a bed turning up a bottle gin with two midgets on his lap. That Joseph did not discriminate!!! He gives all the ladies love!!
@lovelylibragirl79 Hmm. Maybe I have. But please don't hold me to talk about everything you all discuss into a video. For there maybe things that seem right in some eyes and in others they may not agree with. Which why I like to have discussions first and I will have to start chatting with you all a lot more rather than letting the videos do the talking for me. Nevertheless I will try to cover important issues and get it done on "my time" .
@zeakg And because the fans had them like the next coming of christ. It made it even harder! So coming clean with the truth was pretty much out of the question! Well, the truth is coming out now and look how there acting? At the end of the day these two(maybe 3) men were just longing to be themselves after the stage lights went out. Not suck eternally as your POP GOD!!
@zeakg LMAO!!! you are too funny! he's trying zeak haha. And you right when people come here after seeing all that compelling evidence they still want to go in on people. I mean it's RIGHT THERE!! But yet they still won't accept it. Face it peeps it is what it is. You know how I feel about it. It's probably that same nasty and funky additude that the so called "fans" throw when they hear or see something not fitting into the MICHAEL box. I'm sure they discouraged him greatly.
@lovelylibragirl79 Yeah it's not like we all along we just knew something wasn't right. But you notice people don't bash as much when they come on here. People seem to be more interested in the truth about these twins. But I want to know the real reason Jermaine still wears his hair like that! ;)
@zeakg Hi bff haha. how's it going? yup, I'm still sniffing around for flem's new vid. I've been doing my finger stretching so I can burn up the keyboard typing lol. Are you ready yet?:)
@sweetdreams5866 Oh, and to answer you question about joe. TO ME ANYHOW LOL!! he is the bold one, takes the most chances as well as the most outspoken. He might be a little prissy thang BUT he takes no prisoners. Joseph maybe confident and self assured on stage. he still has a shy and timid quality about him. DUALITY IS THE GAME. ;)
@lovelylibragirl79 Decided to take a look at Bad tour "Rock With You" performances from 1987/1988 and I found the difference you mentioned in one of your comments from two weeks ago. Very enlightening, not that it hasn't been there. Honestly I have never been a fan and my search is a long story so I have never watched anything "Michael Jackson" for a very long time but when I started looking I saw all the differences. You can fill in the rest.
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 1 - I had to search a little but finally found the two performances Joseph/Joe. JOSEPH does enunciate clearly, he is taller, his pants are far less ornate. If he wore a belt, it was a heavy weight champion of the world type belt or he wore no belt at all. In addition, he wears tape on his fingers ( i guess that would be right hand) He may whip his head back but rarely; usually it's side to side. His moves are smooth. On the other hand, JOE
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 2- does not enunciate as clearly and is a bit rushed. His pants, both legs are basically fully covered with stuff (rings etc.). His moves are quick and he whips his head back a lot. I didn't see any tape on his fingers either. His belt is a little interesting. It's like some type of bar thingy that he grabs when he sings. His legs are skinner and he has a flatter butt. Don't laugh, but Micheal's butt was always my favorite asset in those 70's outfits.
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 3 - I take that last part back about fill in the rest. It's complicated but like many people, I never believed the "death" thing from day one. Just a little background in case you wanted to know.
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 6- Perhaps I answered my own question about why the movie said JOE and the trial was JOE. It's obvious that hardly anyone knows the secret of the two and certainly not the public. Perhaps JOE is the oldest of the twins. The movie couldn't give up the secret so JOE is older and that's why his name is said and perhaps JOE bought Neverland??? Now, for real, I'm going to try to contain myself. No more thinking...I just love a mystery :)
@sweetdreams5866 Lol, wow you had alot on you mind meh? You seem to be grasping on to things well. I know someone will take my comment the wrong way. but I'm glad you were open minded enough to see where I was coming from. I don't claim to know everything about them. but a majority of the time, If your paying attention. they drop little clues for you to tell who is who. I think some people have known we were always dealing with more than one michael.(not including obvious impersonators).
@lovelylibragirl79 Yes, I have a lot on my mind...I am sure it was intentional but the three boys, Omer, Prince, and Blanket all have the middle name Joseph. Of course, Prince is Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr. and Blanket is Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr.II. If JOE arranged a marriage with DR to have children, it's odd that he named his sons "Joseph", I suppose they couldn't give up the ghost, so to speak, by naming anyone JOE. Just a thought.
@sweetdream5866 cont'd 4 - Thought I was done, sorry. The last odd thing is that the child molestation trial the name is listed as Michael JOE Jackson. In the Movie, the scene where Michael is born, Katherine says Michael JOE Jackson. Really, do you know what's up with that? Was JOE really the one charged but JOSEPH got dragged through the mud also, seeing that they were "one" and no one really paid attention? Most people just say "Michael Jackson" middle name is irrelevant.
@sweetdream5866 cont'd 5 - I mean they are both in this thing together no matter what. Their middle name, dancing style etc is irrelevant to the general public. Sexual orientation is important if you are looking for a relationship. Yes, I'm still in denial about either one being gay. I suppose I will never know that one. I can't see either hurting children either way. If JOE is the one who raised PPB then, he is certainly a very gentle individual and loves children.
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 1 - Thanks again for the info. Hopefully, that is all for the moment. My brain is constantly working but I don't want to wear you out. Cheers!!
@lovelylibragirl79 I can imagine him/them being spoiled like that (wanting women to come to them) seeing that women have been throwing themselves at them since childhood. That's not good. That's the fruit on the ground; makes a man lazy and not want to work for someone who is worth working for (best fruit at the top of the tree). They are probably clueless about how to pursue a good woman. Shameful, because that becomes their loss in the long run.
@lovelylibragirl79 No need to answer my last question about Joe being the brazen one. I can see it in the way he dances. He has a lot more attitude. That may not be a bad thing. It depends on how it's used.
@sweetdream5866 ARRANGEMENT was because of their mutual respect they had for each other. Let alone the nature of their relationship. I'll be blunt in saying this DEBBIE IS GAY. As was JOE(alledgedly) so therefore they wanted nothing more from each other than friendship and for debbie finacial gain. As for JOSEPH he had some hard times with LISA because he too wanted kids. I mean JOE had his, he wanted his as well. There so much more than meets the eye here. And I'd be more than happy to share.
@lovelylibragirl79 That same video said that Debbie was not the prissy type but was more of the biker chick or something like that. When they supposedly didn't sleep together, I thought how in the world did she get pregnant in the dermatologist office...yes, I am laughing, HA HA HA...sorry, I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry, I couldn't let that good looking man sleep one night by himself pregnant or not! Anyway, moving along...still laughing. Something, something just ain't
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd - right!!! About to scream. Yes, it's kind of obvious that Ms. LMP probably was a mess (spoiled and used to getting her way). I don't know which one, Joe or Joseph, supposedly threw that shoe at Joe when he was little but, I think Mr. Michael probably could hold his own in the stubborn arena. That is why she spent all that time, following him around later...lol. Oh well her loss. I would've been saying, ok honey, how many do you want?!?!
@lovelylibragirl79 Well, I couldn't be popping out no babies for money and don't think about keeping them...some people are different. You're right, it's definitely not meeting my eye. Oh, but the last part of the video, Michael Joe (if that's him) said that he had sex with Debbie. He may have rocked her world! I still hate that it wasn't enough for her to stay, whatever the reason; especially for the children. I hope you can follow these comments because I lost myself.
@sweetdream5866 I know you were adressing zeakg but I had something to add lol. I hope you don't mind? I don't know if you read all the comments here, but zeakg and myself were debating if in fact one was gay? I'm not saying I have proof of anything but somethings are very telling to me. The one who married LMP is JOSEPH(taller one) to my knowledge and the Vibes I get he is straight. Now the one who married DEBBIE being JOE was perhaps gay. And the eason they worked out so well with their
@lovelylibragirl79 I don't mind. This whole thing has been working my nerves since "Michael died" so I, although I take some things with a grain of salt, appreciate someone talking to me. Thanks for including me. I'll be honest and say that I hate to think of either one of them being gay but, like everything else, I don't know. I haven't had a chance to ask them and probably never will. I did see a video the other day by a young lady that had me scratching my head
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd- supposed it was the story of how Debbie nagged Michael Joe to let her have his children. Supposedly, she got pregnant the day she offered in Dr. (the dermatologist) office. That was wierd! Then, they got married and she slept alone that night because she needed rest. I don't know about you, but I don't know any man or woman who wants to sleep alone on their wedding night; even if they didn't do anything. I couldn't figure if that was him her or both.
@Zeakg I have been reading back over comments like suggested and of course my mind keeps going and going. Do me a favor. Please go to Kacmagna's channel and search for a video "Full 3 Part Interview 1983 Michael Jackson" and tell me what you think. You may have to scroll down a bit. Thank you again.
@lovelylibragirl79 But Joseph could hold his own if he ever felt like it. But i think after while he suffered from MICHAEL burn out. Even in THIS IS IT he wasn't there but that could have been acting to lead up to death hoax...maybe.
@lovelylibragirl79 Much love back at cha!! Yes you are so right! Joseph is more of a mover than dancer. He does his own thing and that dancer JOE can't ever stop moving
@zeakg joseph also struggled with Billy Jean and Dangerous at times too. And he most often times flubs verses lol. it's funny to watch but still entertaining. He get so irritated lol. He's fresh with the lady's too!! As with joe he keeps his distance and is more romantic. But I do like how Joseph delivers "She's out of my life". he really emotes the emotion. As does joe with "I just can't stop loving you". right zeakg?
@lovelylibragirl79 Not butting in but looking thinking about a video I watch a couple weeks ago, I would have never pegged Joseph to be the fresh one...lol I take it that he is Mr. She Want to Give It? I tend to think there is a third one somewhere. May as well add another layer, ha ha.
@SheTCak Actually red pants Is Michael joe, the other is Joseph. Joe is a thousand percent better dancer. He naturally flowed with the song jam because he's the one that normally perform the song to opens the show. Joseph if you were to really look had a little trouble with jam.
in addition, I think 'red pants' Michael is also the one doing the Billy Jean set, IJCSLY, Thriller and Beat It ? (correct me if I'm wrong). 'Blazer' Michael is in TWYMMF, Black or White, Earth Song and the J5 sets. Hindsight really is 20/20. I don't care either way...I will always have L.O.V.E for him/them.
I'm a long time follower of Flem and I've been observing all of the comments lately. I do believe in the possibility of 2 Michaels. I'm watching TII (again) and I see, clearly, that one dances better than the other. Michael w/the blazer is the better dancer. Red pants Michael, not so much. Just like MSG. Also, a lot of people freaked out over 'red pants' MJ because of his dancing. I think it was the 'red pants' we should've focused on because this illusion took off w/the Thriller video...
@sweetdream5866 Yes Joseph is taller than Joe and bigger. He probably meant that in so many different ways. Like you guys can have this superstar crap i want a normal life again.
@Zeakg That reminds me of he song Destiny. So Joseph had the little, skin tag (small mole) on his face and Joe didn't. Since Joseph is taller, he is the one who married LMP and Joe married DR? If so, how clever and how devious did that make "Michael" look when that wasn't the case at all. Two different men married two different women. If that is so, very interesting.
@lovelylibragirl79 nah baby nah LOL But this happened during the 30th anniversary New York concerts. Jermaine was cool that night, he Tito, Jackie, and Marlon. Don't know what Randy had before the show.
@lovelylibragirl Remember when Randy was saying "You down with opp" well Joseph wasn't to amused by it and he made a BEE LINE to Randy with a ready made fist. Randy had to push him off " nah bady nah" Jermaine saw it and kept a eye on the two. During the bow he made sure he got between them to defuse the situation by playing with Joseph hair and smacking Randy on the butt. After that it was over.
@lovelylibragirl79 Tension between the brothers is nothing new. Believe it or not Jermaine actually had to save Randy from getting his behind kicked by Joseph.
@MrJchrist777 Jermaine's mike went out on him. By the look on his face he was into it. He might have been perplexed his spotlight was ruined for a sec. But he did bounce back.
@mjchrist777 Michael joe looked almost oprehensive to go anyway near him. And when they departed the stage I could read all the emotions and thoughts going on inside him. I think he felt bad, but Where he wanted to go with his career. They could not follow. It was a hard pill to swallow for all involved probably. Especially for Jermaine! we all know his story to well...
@mjchrist777 I watched that performance a gazillion times, And yes, I did notice Jermaines odd behaviors. I mean how would you feel if your "Little Brothers" who have always held the spotlight and outshined you half your life. Were moving on to bigger and better things, and you were left scrapping for alittle piece of a career? There's no way around it the brothers were pissed! But they tried their best to unite for that performance. I could definately feel the tension between joe and jermaine.
@Zeakg I hope that flem18 uses the clip I suggested to you in her next video to show us what was really going on behind the curtains with Michael and his brothers. I got a feeling this is going to be the best video yet.
@MrJchrist777 IKR?! All this waiting and anticipating, I feel like I watched 'Star Wars' and just found out that Darth Vader is Lukes father and I'm on this gigantic cliffhanger.LOL
@Zeakg when you get a chance watch the Motown 25 performance with Michael and his brothers. Pay extra attention to Jermaine and his body language and facial expression when Michael shares his microphone and has his left arm around Jermaine. When Michael and Jermaine are backing up Jermaine has a pissed look on his face. Look closely you might have to watch it a few times to notice. I suggest you watch it in HD. 29 years and nobody ever noticed Jermaine's weird behavior in the performance.
@Zeakg Thank you. I am still confused but thank you. Is one a little taller than the other? I know that when Michael kissed LMP he was wearing a boot with a heel but she looked really short compared to him even when she was wearing high heeled shoes. Last question for now. In Stranger in Moscow, he says "take my name and just let me be" was that because his name was being dragged through the mud or there was a literal reason like he gave up the name to the other?
@lovelylibragirl79 I would go as far as saying he still has his dark complexion but has to lighten himself up because of Joseph. Joe was more friendly in the interviews, Joseph was more straight forward but with a slight friendly twist
@lovelylibragirl79 Yea that was very Cold and the brothers were SHOCKED and caught off guard. They just dump them like whatever did you see how much money we made off thriller we don't need this dead weight. They drop papa JOE because these new handlers had their minds. Notice after that they disappeared for a minute then reappeared a little lighter up until now. Joe is still darker than Joseph, he wears alot of white makeup and sometimes a Michael mask.
@lovelylibragirl79 Remember the brothers saw what thriller did for them and they knew the only way to make money was to try and keep them around. Remember on stage during the last day of the victory tour the twins announced that this was their last time you'll see them perform as the Jacksons.
@zeakg So why all the scraping for excuses? why did he stop being Outgoing? Because it wasn't Joe doing the interviews anymore? Why on the 1986 grammies did see seem like he was at a loss for words? the MJ I'm accustomed to mainly (joe) never had a problem telling you how he feels lol. I know this is all old tea. but I still wonder sometimes...
@zeakg And I saw what appeared to be both of them putting there imput on the film. But I noticed Frank Delio doing a majority of the talking. Even in that Interview with Molly Meldrum (1988). Frank yet again was doing all the talking for him, While MJ looked around and played with his glasses. Was Mj really that incapable of answer THOSE KINDS of questions about HIMSELF? I still wonder.. I mean, I know some people have publicist that speak for them sometimes. but MJ was not in any legal trouble
@zeakg Oh, that weird video.O-o I guess the elite didn't want them.(cry me a river) that's life lol. So what's new? Got any new tea to spill? My brain has been pretty dormant, Not much going on.:( btw: why did they use a replica of michael(s)? Did he not want to do the video with them? Or did his new handlers not want him associating with them any longer? Hard to believe he would just drop his family cold like that. Idk, I've was watching the behind the sceens of moonwalker two nights ago...
@zeakg hey!! I'm around haha:) how ya been? well, it's offically been a month and no vid? I'm alittle sad:( Anyways what were you and mjchrist talking about?
@MrJchrist777 Yea i did...and the video was about the brothers trying to illuminate themselves too but they really didn't want them. Just the Michaels
@lovelylibragirl79 Sad thing about it is JERMAINE DIDN'T EVEN WRITE THE SONG!!!!!! So him singing it was strange within itself. It's makes you wonder which one he was pissed at if not both. Or if the person who wrote it did not know there was a twin and he was just writing to be a butt hole. Maybe the song was hoax too because hoaxes are up their alley.
@zeakg personality? his hidden side. maybe he was secretly selfish and ruthless behind the scenes? anyway you put it jermaine did have quite a chip on his shoulder. TAKIN MY PIE!! lol jermaine is a riot!! lmao
@zeakg I think sweetdream5866 kinda has a point, About the "Word to the bad" song. I to have wondered about the lyrics to that song. I mean why would jermaine reference michaels fading complexion and his surgery? He knows all the backstory behind that. That didn't make sense to me. another thing that caught my ear in that song Was: think they love you they DON'T KNOW YOU!!! lonely superstar? We don't know MICHAEL? maybe i'm overthinking that lyric. Or maybe he was just refering to his
Maybe I am way off with this but Michael(?) with the sequined socks in the clip with Lil Wayne looks to be being held captive? I just thought of that because of a somewhat strange video I saw the other day about a girl who says that she thought that Michael was kidnapped on June 25th. I am thinking that the Lil Wayne video is referring to the Off The Wall era? I thought that because I keep thinking about Jermaine's video about Michael (?) being abducted and reconstructed...am I totally off?
@lovelylibragirl79 It was both all the while out side of the history tour (JOE). Both shared the songs on the albums but they did do individual songs as well. They did individual projects but moonwalker was theirs together. Remember when Michael danced with the rabbit dress like him. That was a easy scene for them because who knew.
@zeakg I figured that. i'm assuming off the wall through thriller was michael joe and dangerous through history was michael joseph? with little cameos from joe in between. and all the people that played a roll in their lives. events etc.
@lovelylibragirl79 Nope there's signs of triplets. The story they're telling is when TWO become ONE. This is reason for two Michaels on the sides and one in the middle.
P.S. I think there are three. One thing is for sure, this has been confusing And my brain us tired of thinking about it And tracing smiles...lol Whew, talk about an illusion! Thanks Flem. I am glad to know I am not totally crazy. The comments are interesting And enlightening.
@cherinanina Have you seen the cover from the latest Micheal album. One twin on the left and right to complete ONE Michael in the middle. If you pay close attention to the Michael in the middle its a merged image of the two.
@Zeakg Interesting o.O ok I'm gonna check out all triple split screen vids like 'Billie Jean' and 'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and see if I see some merging going on lol. Oh and same thing in 'Life Of An Icon' triple split screen of little Michael.
@cherinania In my opinion The think the triple screen shots were symbolic for the brothers and the prominet that have served as MJJ for all these years. Yes i do believe there were other doubles besides the MAIN DOUBLE. I won't say much more about I'll leave that to flem the creator of this series. think S.T.U.D.Y
@zeakg@lovelylibragirl79 I have to say reading both your comments was mind blowing. Talk about freeing your mind. Thank you both so much. Just one thing I don't understand....in TII you saw three different Michael's, no? Also the constant triple split screen....any thoughts?
Hey ya'll: do you think that both of them are still alive? Or did the more effeminate one pass away? Is Blanket on twin's son and PP the other? Who was hurt in the Pepsi accident?? (Sigh) So many questions, so little answers....
@zeakg I'm restless.... hmmm let's see flem dropped this vid on the 7th? It might be the 7th of febuary for the next one. ha! the number 7!!! what do I know I'm just jaw jackin' again. hi zeakg:)
@MrJch why they are in the video because i guess its just a way of keeping themselves out there or because they're called the king all have to bow or answer to them.
@Zeakg Yo the footage where they show Mike's shoes and socks in Lil Waynes video is crazy. It looks like footage from the Victory Tour or the 84 Pepsi comercial.
Now when I look at some Victory Tour footage I notice 2 different Michael's. One has fuller hair and the other one that got burnt his hair is a little thinner on the top and towards the back. When they did then vanishing illusions they would switch back and forth. I was 8 years old when I saw them in 84 and I couldn't tell the difference from the seats we had. I saw everything from the jumbotron.lol
We love Michael so much that we was always giving him the benefit of the doubt. Even when things seemed a little odd at times.lol How he just went from a coffee with cream complexsion in 89 to a damn near white complexsion in 2 to 3 years later. Doesn't make sense at all.lol
@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
@Zeakg. Yo it is all starting to make sense. I see now that the one that was defiant against their father Joseph was the one that would have fits and throw shoes. The other one was afraid of their father. Fainting and regergitating all the time.lol
@zeakg probably did have a fling. he's still got blood pumpin down there. beyonces not exactly a troll ya know? :) Hell, if I was on the scene I'd get some play too;)!! (i know this) michael joseph ain't crazy!! lol, i talk too much! I can't help it.
@zeakg a BLACK MAN!! so why wouldn't he be attracted to his own kind? shit! he's has the pick of the litter. And there are BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMEN out there. I'm not racist, white people are cool with me:) but they kill me thinking they know every gotdamn thing! I don't think he was ashamed, he just choose to keep what he had with them to himself. And to be honest, him bein at the top. the last person they wanna see on his arm is a black WOMAN. lol. ANYTHING BUT THAT MIKEY!! him and KING BEE
@zeakg LMAO!! I mean no harm BUT alot of women(white women) manly. were on those boards fighting over that very same revelation lol. They don't believe that MICHAEL could have been romanticlly attracted to a black woman. And god forbid she's stacked!! It's like their stuck in this image he manufactured for them. those marriages to lisa and debbie really warped their judgement! Michael may have a skin disorder.(yes, it's legit) and his public PERSONA may be a bit white washed BUT... he's still
@lovelylibragirl79 This may be stretching it a little or maybe not but I believe Joseph might have had a very short fling with Beyonce. He did asked diddy at a party to tell her to come here. I think it was on and poppin from there. Did you see him light up when she came on stage with D.C. during the NEW YORK anniversary concerts
@zeakg He was beefin' up to keep "REAL MAD! REAL MAD!" Mr. Jackson off his behind! wouldn't you? lol I read all about Mr. Michael Josephs Rizz wa Faires on lipstickalley. where do those people get all that info from? it's crazy! they have a whole forum dedicated to their love lives lol. Don't get me wrong it's a good read(i'm so bad) But michael joseph is quite the manwhore haha. My mouth fell open so many times. Still doesn't change my feeling about them. THOSE DAMN JACKSONS!!
michael joe is always so extra lol, and he does the best robot! during the stranger in moscow. i laugh sometimes because the gold outfit just hangs off him. i guess muscle butt stretched it abit. its all love lol
@lovelylibragirl79 You are so right about Joe dancing. I tell what check out his Billie Jean performance on the History tour which he held down by himself by the way. Best Ever!!
@zeakg I gave you mine in your inbox/channel comments lol. Check it man! lol:)
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Dont give so soon!! IM going to find away to a gmail address to ya! :)
Zeakg 1 week ago
@zeakg Don't worry about it haha
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@zeakg I left a comment on your page
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 I did nothing. where did you send it?
Zeakg 1 week ago
@zeakg haha recheck it..
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@zeakg Chris Rock quote "Is Jermaine the greasiest n###a you ever saw?" "Gotta throw sand on him to catch him".lol
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@zeakg Check the comments on your channel;)
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl7 I will
Zeakg 1 week ago
@zeakg Ewwww!!! *facepalm* come on man! my mind is too vivid or those kinds of images lol.
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 LOL!! Joseph learned a lot from them older brothers. Think he had sex with those midgets? !!! Those midgets didn't stand a chance around Joseph, he probably found a way to hit them at the same time!! lol
Zeakg 1 week ago
@zeakg Hahahahaha!!! yea, I have that pic. It's too funny to me. but they look like their sitting on the floor of the set soundstage. And yea, that's joseph haha. guzzling smirnoff. When I first saw this Pic I was Like: He got to be puttin on? He doesn't drink? Well, apparently he does. I also have a pic of him holding a can of budweiser with bruce springsteen. Joseph knows how to unwind after a hard day. lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
Well tonight will be over in one minute so I'll check back tomorrow
Zeakg 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Some say it was on the set of captain eo where the picture was taken. Perhaps it could have, just maybe, nah get out of here, JOE?!!
Zeakg 1 week ago
The video will be up tonite. I apologize for the delay. Furthermore I'll say I'm right on time.
flem18 1 week ago
@MrJchrist777 Me too
Zeakg 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 You are sooooo right!! Hey did you see the picture of one them on mediatakeout ?!! One of twins (I say Joseph) sitting on a bed turning up a bottle gin with two midgets on his lap. That Joseph did not discriminate!!! He gives all the ladies love!!
Zeakg 1 week ago
Still waiting
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@cherinaina your right about the hair!! I'll get into that alittle later.
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@zeakg I hope flem touches on some of the things we mentioned. I think that would open peoples eyes much more.
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Hmm. Maybe I have. But please don't hold me to talk about everything you all discuss into a video. For there maybe things that seem right in some eyes and in others they may not agree with. Which why I like to have discussions first and I will have to start chatting with you all a lot more rather than letting the videos do the talking for me. Nevertheless I will try to cover important issues and get it done on "my time" .
flem18 1 week ago
@zeakg And because the fans had them like the next coming of christ. It made it even harder! So coming clean with the truth was pretty much out of the question! Well, the truth is coming out now and look how there acting? At the end of the day these two(maybe 3) men were just longing to be themselves after the stage lights went out. Not suck eternally as your POP GOD!!
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@zeakg LMAO!!! you are too funny! he's trying zeak haha. And you right when people come here after seeing all that compelling evidence they still want to go in on people. I mean it's RIGHT THERE!! But yet they still won't accept it. Face it peeps it is what it is. You know how I feel about it. It's probably that same nasty and funky additude that the so called "fans" throw when they hear or see something not fitting into the MICHAEL box. I'm sure they discouraged him greatly.
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 we knew all along. my bad lol
Zeakg 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yeah it's not like we all along we just knew something wasn't right. But you notice people don't bash as much when they come on here. People seem to be more interested in the truth about these twins. But I want to know the real reason Jermaine still wears his hair like that! ;)
Zeakg 1 week ago
@Zeakg I knew it!LOL! The Secret is the Hair >.<
cherinanina 1 week ago
@zeakg I hear you. But I rather them be hella late than to have never realized at all. ;)
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
Still waiting
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Funny how people still think that it's just one and he's dead. Deceit and Deception are stronger than people think.
Zeakg 1 week ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yea i guess. :) Hope all is well with you and yours!
Zeakg 1 week ago
Still waiting
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@MrJchrist777 LOL
cherinanina 1 week ago
@cherinanina What's so funny?
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@MrJchrist777 your comment was funny.
cherinanina 1 week ago
Still waiting
MrJchrist777 1 week ago
@zeakg Hi bff haha. how's it going? yup, I'm still sniffing around for flem's new vid. I've been doing my finger stretching so I can burn up the keyboard typing lol. Are you ready yet?:)
lovelylibragirl79 1 week ago
@flem18 Good because my fingers hurt!!! LOL :)
Zeakg 2 weeks ago
Ok thanks flem18
MrJchrist777 2 weeks ago
The video will be posted this week you all.
flem18 2 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 So still waiting on the video HUH?!!
Zeakg 2 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 "You are my Lovely One"!!! :)
Zeakg 2 weeks ago
@zeakg Hi zeakg!!:)
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 It looks and sounds like Joe. He always does this Head shake thing like his Mother when he talks
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@sweetdreams5866 Oh, and to answer you question about joe. TO ME ANYHOW LOL!! he is the bold one, takes the most chances as well as the most outspoken. He might be a little prissy thang BUT he takes no prisoners. Joseph maybe confident and self assured on stage. he still has a shy and timid quality about him. DUALITY IS THE GAME. ;)
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Duality is the game...I see
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Decided to take a look at Bad tour "Rock With You" performances from 1987/1988 and I found the difference you mentioned in one of your comments from two weeks ago. Very enlightening, not that it hasn't been there. Honestly I have never been a fan and my search is a long story so I have never watched anything "Michael Jackson" for a very long time but when I started looking I saw all the differences. You can fill in the rest.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 1 - I had to search a little but finally found the two performances Joseph/Joe. JOSEPH does enunciate clearly, he is taller, his pants are far less ornate. If he wore a belt, it was a heavy weight champion of the world type belt or he wore no belt at all. In addition, he wears tape on his fingers ( i guess that would be right hand) He may whip his head back but rarely; usually it's side to side. His moves are smooth. On the other hand, JOE
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 2- does not enunciate as clearly and is a bit rushed. His pants, both legs are basically fully covered with stuff (rings etc.). His moves are quick and he whips his head back a lot. I didn't see any tape on his fingers either. His belt is a little interesting. It's like some type of bar thingy that he grabs when he sings. His legs are skinner and he has a flatter butt. Don't laugh, but Micheal's butt was always my favorite asset in those 70's outfits.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 3 - I take that last part back about fill in the rest. It's complicated but like many people, I never believed the "death" thing from day one. Just a little background in case you wanted to know.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 6- Perhaps I answered my own question about why the movie said JOE and the trial was JOE. It's obvious that hardly anyone knows the secret of the two and certainly not the public. Perhaps JOE is the oldest of the twins. The movie couldn't give up the secret so JOE is older and that's why his name is said and perhaps JOE bought Neverland??? Now, for real, I'm going to try to contain myself. No more thinking...I just love a mystery :)
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@sweetdreams5866 Lol, wow you had alot on you mind meh? You seem to be grasping on to things well. I know someone will take my comment the wrong way. but I'm glad you were open minded enough to see where I was coming from. I don't claim to know everything about them. but a majority of the time, If your paying attention. they drop little clues for you to tell who is who. I think some people have known we were always dealing with more than one michael.(not including obvious impersonators).
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yes, I have a lot on my mind...I am sure it was intentional but the three boys, Omer, Prince, and Blanket all have the middle name Joseph. Of course, Prince is Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr. and Blanket is Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr.II. If JOE arranged a marriage with DR to have children, it's odd that he named his sons "Joseph", I suppose they couldn't give up the ghost, so to speak, by naming anyone JOE. Just a thought.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 cont'd 4 - Thought I was done, sorry. The last odd thing is that the child molestation trial the name is listed as Michael JOE Jackson. In the Movie, the scene where Michael is born, Katherine says Michael JOE Jackson. Really, do you know what's up with that? Was JOE really the one charged but JOSEPH got dragged through the mud also, seeing that they were "one" and no one really paid attention? Most people just say "Michael Jackson" middle name is irrelevant.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 cont'd 5 - I mean they are both in this thing together no matter what. Their middle name, dancing style etc is irrelevant to the general public. Sexual orientation is important if you are looking for a relationship. Yes, I'm still in denial about either one being gay. I suppose I will never know that one. I can't see either hurting children either way. If JOE is the one who raised PPB then, he is certainly a very gentle individual and loves children.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd 1 - Thanks again for the info. Hopefully, that is all for the moment. My brain is constantly working but I don't want to wear you out. Cheers!!
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@zeakg Thanks for not catching a tude you know I love ya lol;)
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 I don't mind if you speak for me. Cause we are intertwined at the brain anyhow!!! lol
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 Joseph likes for the ladies to come to him. He has his moments though lol. Joe is the brazen one though. funny huh?
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 I can imagine him/them being spoiled like that (wanting women to come to them) seeing that women have been throwing themselves at them since childhood. That's not good. That's the fruit on the ground; makes a man lazy and not want to work for someone who is worth working for (best fruit at the top of the tree). They are probably clueless about how to pursue a good woman. Shameful, because that becomes their loss in the long run.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 - cont'd - What do you mean that Joe is the brazen one? Yes, I am finding some humor in all of this finally.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 No need to answer my last question about Joe being the brazen one. I can see it in the way he dances. He has a lot more attitude. That may not be a bad thing. It depends on how it's used.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 ARRANGEMENT was because of their mutual respect they had for each other. Let alone the nature of their relationship. I'll be blunt in saying this DEBBIE IS GAY. As was JOE(alledgedly) so therefore they wanted nothing more from each other than friendship and for debbie finacial gain. As for JOSEPH he had some hard times with LISA because he too wanted kids. I mean JOE had his, he wanted his as well. There so much more than meets the eye here. And I'd be more than happy to share.
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 That same video said that Debbie was not the prissy type but was more of the biker chick or something like that. When they supposedly didn't sleep together, I thought how in the world did she get pregnant in the dermatologist office...yes, I am laughing, HA HA HA...sorry, I couldn't help myself. I'm sorry, I couldn't let that good looking man sleep one night by himself pregnant or not! Anyway, moving along...still laughing. Something, something just ain't
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd - right!!! About to scream. Yes, it's kind of obvious that Ms. LMP probably was a mess (spoiled and used to getting her way). I don't know which one, Joe or Joseph, supposedly threw that shoe at Joe when he was little but, I think Mr. Michael probably could hold his own in the stubborn arena. That is why she spent all that time, following him around later...lol. Oh well her loss. I would've been saying, ok honey, how many do you want?!?!
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Well, I couldn't be popping out no babies for money and don't think about keeping them...some people are different. You're right, it's definitely not meeting my eye. Oh, but the last part of the video, Michael Joe (if that's him) said that he had sex with Debbie. He may have rocked her world! I still hate that it wasn't enough for her to stay, whatever the reason; especially for the children. I hope you can follow these comments because I lost myself.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 I know you were adressing zeakg but I had something to add lol. I hope you don't mind? I don't know if you read all the comments here, but zeakg and myself were debating if in fact one was gay? I'm not saying I have proof of anything but somethings are very telling to me. The one who married LMP is JOSEPH(taller one) to my knowledge and the Vibes I get he is straight. Now the one who married DEBBIE being JOE was perhaps gay. And the eason they worked out so well with their
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 I don't mind. This whole thing has been working my nerves since "Michael died" so I, although I take some things with a grain of salt, appreciate someone talking to me. Thanks for including me. I'll be honest and say that I hate to think of either one of them being gay but, like everything else, I don't know. I haven't had a chance to ask them and probably never will. I did see a video the other day by a young lady that had me scratching my head
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 cont'd- supposed it was the story of how Debbie nagged Michael Joe to let her have his children. Supposedly, she got pregnant the day she offered in Dr. (the dermatologist) office. That was wierd! Then, they got married and she slept alone that night because she needed rest. I don't know about you, but I don't know any man or woman who wants to sleep alone on their wedding night; even if they didn't do anything. I couldn't figure if that was him her or both.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
its good to know that im not the only person who thinks there are 2 michaels here
NyFin3st11 3 weeks ago
Speaking of another Death Hoax.....hmmmm
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg I have been reading back over comments like suggested and of course my mind keeps going and going. Do me a favor. Please go to Kacmagna's channel and search for a video "Full 3 Part Interview 1983 Michael Jackson" and tell me what you think. You may have to scroll down a bit. Thank you again.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 But Joseph could hold his own if he ever felt like it. But i think after while he suffered from MICHAEL burn out. Even in THIS IS IT he wasn't there but that could have been acting to lead up to death hoax...maybe.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg In This Is It, which one is Joseph and which one is Joe. Tell me what they were wearing.
msanniesc 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Much love back at cha!! Yes you are so right! Joseph is more of a mover than dancer. He does his own thing and that dancer JOE can't ever stop moving
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@zeakg joseph also struggled with Billy Jean and Dangerous at times too. And he most often times flubs verses lol. it's funny to watch but still entertaining. He get so irritated lol. He's fresh with the lady's too!! As with joe he keeps his distance and is more romantic. But I do like how Joseph delivers "She's out of my life". he really emotes the emotion. As does joe with "I just can't stop loving you". right zeakg?
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Not butting in but looking thinking about a video I watch a couple weeks ago, I would have never pegged Joseph to be the fresh one...lol I take it that he is Mr. She Want to Give It? I tend to think there is a third one somewhere. May as well add another layer, ha ha.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@zeakg You are so spot on!!!! I love you!!!! great minds think alike:) hi btw.....
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@SheTCak Actually red pants Is Michael joe, the other is Joseph. Joe is a thousand percent better dancer. He naturally flowed with the song jam because he's the one that normally perform the song to opens the show. Joseph if you were to really look had a little trouble with jam.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
Maybe Flem will do a side by side comparison of the 2 Michaels in her next video.
msanniesc 3 weeks ago
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in addition, I think 'red pants' Michael is also the one doing the Billy Jean set, IJCSLY, Thriller and Beat It ? (correct me if I'm wrong). 'Blazer' Michael is in TWYMMF, Black or White, Earth Song and the J5 sets. Hindsight really is 20/20. I don't care either way...I will always have L.O.V.E for him/them.
SheTCak 3 weeks ago
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SheTCak 3 weeks ago
and what color were MJ's pants in that video??? *Red Pants*
SheTCak 3 weeks ago
I'm a long time follower of Flem and I've been observing all of the comments lately. I do believe in the possibility of 2 Michaels. I'm watching TII (again) and I see, clearly, that one dances better than the other. Michael w/the blazer is the better dancer. Red pants Michael, not so much. Just like MSG. Also, a lot of people freaked out over 'red pants' MJ because of his dancing. I think it was the 'red pants' we should've focused on because this illusion took off w/the Thriller video...
SheTCak 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 Yes Joseph is taller than Joe and bigger. He probably meant that in so many different ways. Like you guys can have this superstar crap i want a normal life again.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg That reminds me of he song Destiny. So Joseph had the little, skin tag (small mole) on his face and Joe didn't. Since Joseph is taller, he is the one who married LMP and Joe married DR? If so, how clever and how devious did that make "Michael" look when that wasn't the case at all. Two different men married two different women. If that is so, very interesting.
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 nah baby nah LOL But this happened during the 30th anniversary New York concerts. Jermaine was cool that night, he Tito, Jackie, and Marlon. Don't know what Randy had before the show.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl Remember when Randy was saying "You down with opp" well Joseph wasn't to amused by it and he made a BEE LINE to Randy with a ready made fist. Randy had to push him off " nah bady nah" Jermaine saw it and kept a eye on the two. During the bow he made sure he got between them to defuse the situation by playing with Joseph hair and smacking Randy on the butt. After that it was over.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Tension between the brothers is nothing new. Believe it or not Jermaine actually had to save Randy from getting his behind kicked by Joseph.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@MrJchrist777 Jermaine's mike went out on him. By the look on his face he was into it. He might have been perplexed his spotlight was ruined for a sec. But he did bounce back.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@zeakg I see your gaining popularity fast! I'm jealous! lmao. No really, you are very Insightful. I love bouncing my thoughts off of you. ttyl
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@mjchrist777 Michael joe looked almost oprehensive to go anyway near him. And when they departed the stage I could read all the emotions and thoughts going on inside him. I think he felt bad, but Where he wanted to go with his career. They could not follow. It was a hard pill to swallow for all involved probably. Especially for Jermaine! we all know his story to well...
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@mjchrist777 I watched that performance a gazillion times, And yes, I did notice Jermaines odd behaviors. I mean how would you feel if your "Little Brothers" who have always held the spotlight and outshined you half your life. Were moving on to bigger and better things, and you were left scrapping for alittle piece of a career? There's no way around it the brothers were pissed! But they tried their best to unite for that performance. I could definately feel the tension between joe and jermaine.
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg I hope that flem18 uses the clip I suggested to you in her next video to show us what was really going on behind the curtains with Michael and his brothers. I got a feeling this is going to be the best video yet.
MrJchrist777 3 weeks ago
@MrJchrist777 IKR?! All this waiting and anticipating, I feel like I watched 'Star Wars' and just found out that Darth Vader is Lukes father and I'm on this gigantic cliffhanger.LOL
cherinanina 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg when you get a chance watch the Motown 25 performance with Michael and his brothers. Pay extra attention to Jermaine and his body language and facial expression when Michael shares his microphone and has his left arm around Jermaine. When Michael and Jermaine are backing up Jermaine has a pissed look on his face. Look closely you might have to watch it a few times to notice. I suggest you watch it in HD. 29 years and nobody ever noticed Jermaine's weird behavior in the performance.
MrJchrist777 3 weeks ago
@ Zeakg I keep trying to post comments and you tube keeps blocking me from sending.
MrJchrist777 3 weeks ago
fuck
MrJchrist777 3 weeks ago
@sweetdream5866 Joseph
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@Zeakg Thank you. I am still confused but thank you. Is one a little taller than the other? I know that when Michael kissed LMP he was wearing a boot with a heel but she looked really short compared to him even when she was wearing high heeled shoes. Last question for now. In Stranger in Moscow, he says "take my name and just let me be" was that because his name was being dragged through the mud or there was a literal reason like he gave up the name to the other?
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
Which one is on the photo on Flem's channel background?
sweetdream5866 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 I would go as far as saying he still has his dark complexion but has to lighten himself up because of Joseph. Joe was more friendly in the interviews, Joseph was more straight forward but with a slight friendly twist
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yea that was very Cold and the brothers were SHOCKED and caught off guard. They just dump them like whatever did you see how much money we made off thriller we don't need this dead weight. They drop papa JOE because these new handlers had their minds. Notice after that they disappeared for a minute then reappeared a little lighter up until now. Joe is still darker than Joseph, he wears alot of white makeup and sometimes a Michael mask.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Remember the brothers saw what thriller did for them and they knew the only way to make money was to try and keep them around. Remember on stage during the last day of the victory tour the twins announced that this was their last time you'll see them perform as the Jacksons.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@zeakg So why all the scraping for excuses? why did he stop being Outgoing? Because it wasn't Joe doing the interviews anymore? Why on the 1986 grammies did see seem like he was at a loss for words? the MJ I'm accustomed to mainly (joe) never had a problem telling you how he feels lol. I know this is all old tea. but I still wonder sometimes...
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@zeakg And I saw what appeared to be both of them putting there imput on the film. But I noticed Frank Delio doing a majority of the talking. Even in that Interview with Molly Meldrum (1988). Frank yet again was doing all the talking for him, While MJ looked around and played with his glasses. Was Mj really that incapable of answer THOSE KINDS of questions about HIMSELF? I still wonder.. I mean, I know some people have publicist that speak for them sometimes. but MJ was not in any legal trouble
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@zeakg Oh, that weird video.O-o I guess the elite didn't want them.(cry me a river) that's life lol. So what's new? Got any new tea to spill? My brain has been pretty dormant, Not much going on.:( btw: why did they use a replica of michael(s)? Did he not want to do the video with them? Or did his new handlers not want him associating with them any longer? Hard to believe he would just drop his family cold like that. Idk, I've was watching the behind the sceens of moonwalker two nights ago...
lovelylibragirl79 3 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 aaahh there you ARE!! All is right with the world!! lol We were talking about the torture song and video.
Zeakg 3 weeks ago
@cherinanina Good observation!! :)
lovelylibragirl79 4 weeks ago
Let see, I predict Flem's vid will be released Feb. 28th. It will be exactly 28 years since 1984 Grammy awards. :D
cherinanina 4 weeks ago
@zeakg hey!! I'm around haha:) how ya been? well, it's offically been a month and no vid? I'm alittle sad:( Anyways what were you and mjchrist talking about?
lovelylibragirl79 4 weeks ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Heeeeeyyyy ah where are YOU! !!!
Zeakg 4 weeks ago
@MrJchrist777 Yea i did...and the video was about the brothers trying to illuminate themselves too but they really didn't want them. Just the Michaels
Zeakg 4 weeks ago
Hi Flem, we are waiting for the new video. Can't wait.
msanniesc 4 weeks ago in playlist Thriller Chiller
@lovelylibragirl79 Sad thing about it is JERMAINE DIDN'T EVEN WRITE THE SONG!!!!!! So him singing it was strange within itself. It's makes you wonder which one he was pissed at if not both. Or if the person who wrote it did not know there was a twin and he was just writing to be a butt hole. Maybe the song was hoax too because hoaxes are up their alley.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg personality? his hidden side. maybe he was secretly selfish and ruthless behind the scenes? anyway you put it jermaine did have quite a chip on his shoulder. TAKIN MY PIE!! lol jermaine is a riot!! lmao
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg I think sweetdream5866 kinda has a point, About the "Word to the bad" song. I to have wondered about the lyrics to that song. I mean why would jermaine reference michaels fading complexion and his surgery? He knows all the backstory behind that. That didn't make sense to me. another thing that caught my ear in that song Was: think they love you they DON'T KNOW YOU!!! lonely superstar? We don't know MICHAEL? maybe i'm overthinking that lyric. Or maybe he was just refering to his
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@sweetdream5866 yeah but just read some of comments then you'll get or have a idea of what's truly going on.
Zeakg 1 month ago
Maybe I am way off with this but Michael(?) with the sequined socks in the clip with Lil Wayne looks to be being held captive? I just thought of that because of a somewhat strange video I saw the other day about a girl who says that she thought that Michael was kidnapped on June 25th. I am thinking that the Lil Wayne video is referring to the Off The Wall era? I thought that because I keep thinking about Jermaine's video about Michael (?) being abducted and reconstructed...am I totally off?
sweetdream5866 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 It was both all the while out side of the history tour (JOE). Both shared the songs on the albums but they did do individual songs as well. They did individual projects but moonwalker was theirs together. Remember when Michael danced with the rabbit dress like him. That was a easy scene for them because who knew.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg I figured that. i'm assuming off the wall through thriller was michael joe and dangerous through history was michael joseph? with little cameos from joe in between. and all the people that played a roll in their lives. events etc.
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Nope there's signs of triplets. The story they're telling is when TWO become ONE. This is reason for two Michaels on the sides and one in the middle.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg hey what happened to you? I miss your commentary:(
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
P.S. I think there are three. One thing is for sure, this has been confusing And my brain us tired of thinking about it And tracing smiles...lol Whew, talk about an illusion! Thanks Flem. I am glad to know I am not totally crazy. The comments are interesting And enlightening.
sweetdream5866 1 month ago
One with sequined socks? Mr. Dont Stop Til You Get Enough?
sweetdream5866 1 month ago
@zeakg So now your thinking triplets? I was just starting to embrace the twins! lol And the wheels in my head keep on turning.
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg Hey! I didn't notice that? I'm gonna have to check that out lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@cherinanina Have you seen the cover from the latest Micheal album. One twin on the left and right to complete ONE Michael in the middle. If you pay close attention to the Michael in the middle its a merged image of the two.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@Zeakg Interesting o.O ok I'm gonna check out all triple split screen vids like 'Billie Jean' and 'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' and see if I see some merging going on lol. Oh and same thing in 'Life Of An Icon' triple split screen of little Michael.
cherinanina 1 month ago
@cherinania In my opinion The think the triple screen shots were symbolic for the brothers and the prominet that have served as MJJ for all these years. Yes i do believe there were other doubles besides the MAIN DOUBLE. I won't say much more about I'll leave that to flem the creator of this series. think S.T.U.D.Y
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg @lovelylibragirl79 I have to say reading both your comments was mind blowing. Talk about freeing your mind. Thank you both so much. Just one thing I don't understand....in TII you saw three different Michael's, no? Also the constant triple split screen....any thoughts?
cherinanina 1 month ago
Didn't one of them have Lupus? They say the life expectancy is shortened with Lupus.
muzikluvr1231 1 month ago
Hey ya'll: do you think that both of them are still alive? Or did the more effeminate one pass away? Is Blanket on twin's son and PP the other? Who was hurt in the Pepsi accident?? (Sigh) So many questions, so little answers....
muzikluvr1231 1 month ago
@Zeakg Yo did you ever hear the lyrics to the song "Torture" off of the Vitory Album? In the song Michael sings I am hear to serve all masters.
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
@zeakg Your so silly lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@msanniesc which video?
Zeakg 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 yes im a homie!! lol
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg what's up homie? lol :)
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 What's up!! :)
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg I'm restless.... hmmm let's see flem dropped this vid on the 7th? It might be the 7th of febuary for the next one. ha! the number 7!!! what do I know I'm just jaw jackin' again. hi zeakg:)
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@MrJch why they are in the video because i guess its just a way of keeping themselves out there or because they're called the king all have to bow or answer to them.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@Zeakg What's your take on the Lil Wayne footage?
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
@MrJchrist777 I think back in the day they did this because they didn't have choice.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yes they did the swapsies until the history tour where Joe did it by himself.
Zeakg 1 month ago
They might have did for their intire career since they were kids.
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
@zeakg do you think they did this for bad tour too? at least for the 1st leg? and dangerous too? were they still playing swapsies?
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago in playlist Thriller Chiller
@Zeakg Yo the footage where they show Mike's shoes and socks in Lil Waynes video is crazy. It looks like footage from the Victory Tour or the 84 Pepsi comercial.
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
Now when I look at some Victory Tour footage I notice 2 different Michael's. One has fuller hair and the other one that got burnt his hair is a little thinner on the top and towards the back. When they did then vanishing illusions they would switch back and forth. I was 8 years old when I saw them in 84 and I couldn't tell the difference from the seats we had. I saw everything from the jumbotron.lol
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
We love Michael so much that we was always giving him the benefit of the doubt. Even when things seemed a little odd at times.lol How he just went from a coffee with cream complexsion in 89 to a damn near white complexsion in 2 to 3 years later. Doesn't make sense at all.lol
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
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@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
Zeakg 1 month ago
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@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 That's why he was with Stephanie Mills she was bootylious long before Beyonce was born. She is still fine till this day but I don't know if who broke them up. By default she married Jeffrey Daniels who she thought could be a close Joseph. But he wasn't he used to hit her.
Zeakg 1 month ago
@MrJchrist777 You hit the hammer right on the nail! !!
Zeakg 1 month ago
@Zeakg. Yo it is all starting to make sense. I see now that the one that was defiant against their father Joseph was the one that would have fits and throw shoes. The other one was afraid of their father. Fainting and regergitating all the time.lol
MrJchrist777 1 month ago
@zeakg probably did have a fling. he's still got blood pumpin down there. beyonces not exactly a troll ya know? :) Hell, if I was on the scene I'd get some play too;)!! (i know this) michael joseph ain't crazy!! lol, i talk too much! I can't help it.
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg a BLACK MAN!! so why wouldn't he be attracted to his own kind? shit! he's has the pick of the litter. And there are BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMEN out there. I'm not racist, white people are cool with me:) but they kill me thinking they know every gotdamn thing! I don't think he was ashamed, he just choose to keep what he had with them to himself. And to be honest, him bein at the top. the last person they wanna see on his arm is a black WOMAN. lol. ANYTHING BUT THAT MIKEY!! him and KING BEE
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg LMAO!! I mean no harm BUT alot of women(white women) manly. were on those boards fighting over that very same revelation lol. They don't believe that MICHAEL could have been romanticlly attracted to a black woman. And god forbid she's stacked!! It's like their stuck in this image he manufactured for them. those marriages to lisa and debbie really warped their judgement! Michael may have a skin disorder.(yes, it's legit) and his public PERSONA may be a bit white washed BUT... he's still
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 You really think Joseph was going to let a BOOTAY like that get pass him!! LOL I doubt that very seriously!!!
Zeakg 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 This may be stretching it a little or maybe not but I believe Joseph might have had a very short fling with Beyonce. He did asked diddy at a party to tell her to come here. I think it was on and poppin from there. Did you see him light up when she came on stage with D.C. during the NEW YORK anniversary concerts
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg He was beefin' up to keep "REAL MAD! REAL MAD!" Mr. Jackson off his behind! wouldn't you? lol I read all about Mr. Michael Josephs Rizz wa Faires on lipstickalley. where do those people get all that info from? it's crazy! they have a whole forum dedicated to their love lives lol. Don't get me wrong it's a good read(i'm so bad) But michael joseph is quite the manwhore haha. My mouth fell open so many times. Still doesn't change my feeling about them. THOSE DAMN JACKSONS!!
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 Yeah Joseph name shouldve been Michael "HULK " Jackson!! I bet Papa Joe don't bother that one no more.
Zeakg 1 month ago
michael joe is always so extra lol, and he does the best robot! during the stranger in moscow. i laugh sometimes because the gold outfit just hangs off him. i guess muscle butt stretched it abit. its all love lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg just watched it again, yea he killed that lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@flem18 Thanks for allowing us to tailgate before the big game. LOL
Zeakg 1 month ago
@zeakg you mean history tour helsenki?
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@zeakg which on? there are quit a few lol
lovelylibragirl79 1 month ago
@lovelylibragirl79 You are so right about Joe dancing. I tell what check out his Billie Jean performance on the History tour which he held down by himself by the way. Best Ever!!
Zeakg 1 month ago