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  • How does she put him into the state in the first place? thanks, Lee

  • @lrmphotos Kim asks him if he's ever been in that state first, then when he's thinking about it she taps the sugar. Watch it again, you'll notice that Kim taps her finger on the sugar every time he's answers a positive questions. She then replies 'really' to everything he says, at this point he is unconsciously saying yes back to her, doing otherwise would be disagreeing with himself. So, really..... yes (tap finger again and link agreement to the anchor, she's very good)

  • She is WAYYY too obvious with the anchor, but he doesn't realize it so I guess it worked...but I love the technique... and her ability to elicit the different states was awesome. This is a great video.

  • @jrfarris87 Probably intentionally obvious for training purposes, there wouldn't be much point in this video if she'd made it difficult. Also while she setting the sugar up as an anchor she only gently taps the sugar while he is focused on her face and is answering the questions so even if he consciously picks up the tapping out of the corner of his eye, his mind is still focused on his experience so the anchor will still take no matter how obvious she was. Our unconscious is always watching. :)

  • they're all so old and creepy, look at that 70 year old in the background...

  • I would've fractionated some more. I liked how she shifts tonality at 7:13 and does the "Now, with me" + self point at 7:18. She used his trance words (warmth, playful, alive, etc.). TAKE INSIDE..lol..is that supposed to be sexual innuendo??

    One question though, I thought sliding anchors were supposed to be done in their peripheral vision? It appears Kim is sliding the sugar packet in front of them.

  • what I want to know is this: what would it do to the guy if she poured that sugar into her drink and finished it?

    anchor collapsing?

  • question for using anchors (not sliding ones). what's the best way to request permission to "borrow someone's knuckle" so to speak. I would like to set some anchors but dont' want the person to be like "stop touching my shoulder/knuckle/whatever_phys­ical_anchorspot".

  • Well all kind of powers and new technologies have the possibility to abuse them.

    This includes computers the written word and nlp too.

    But you are right this stuff can be used to abuse someone, but it brings MORE good into the world. It depends on the people using it.

    And Tom is right, you need to live up to your anchors, at least to some extend.

  • Or of course she could just get a personality and become interested in other people. At least if you are going to attepm covert then don't make it overt.

    Yawn

  • the dude is as hard as a diamond in an ice storm!

  • If the girl is sexy connection will appear automaticaly. :)

  • "I know there was someone special in your life" Truism alert! The Blatant anchoring on the table top was just er ....Amateur And if you are going to lead someone you really should know where you are going! She was fumbling in the dark! No this is not really good it's very mediocre

  • you dont know what your talking about....shes very good at what she does.....

  • presupposition alert! you 8 years old when I was a Master practitioner in NLP and I had been doing 4 years then. so ask first! before you presuppose what I know!

  • I've noted that you have this same response to other people as well ! why don't you go and cry somewhere else, is this woman your mama or something, or you start crying every time people have a different opinion to yours! "danceba231" I'm very sure a lot of people on here know far more than you! just from your remarks!

  • well well looks like someone cant take shit but sure can give it huh:-) suck it up ok.....i will express what i want to say when every i feel like it. thats the bottom line:-)

  • well keep doing that, but when someone kicks your ass for it don't  blame them idiot!

  • im aware of my actions and responsible of my choices.......idiot!

  • I Think not!

  • she's good at holding the attention of a room of virgins, but what she really excels at is annoying the shit out of everyone else. she is nails on a chalk board. no where in my post did say that they don't work together. less name calling, more pay attention, please. sorry, I have no time for these little parlor tricks. people don't like to feel they are being tooled. not to say there isn't a time for anchors. at the end of Ross' book he says, if all else fails beg and cry. what an AFC.

  • i can see that... also, with that, i think she was pushing the 'playfulness' that the guy responded to... which could be considered a bit annoying, like with her head bobbing side to side and the highpitched voice, etc

  • This is really good.

  • anyone got any suggetsions on good DVD's about NLP

  • yes raulakh9989 read Richard Banders books and watch his tapes

  • I would ask her why are you playing with these sugar packets; stop fidgeting.

  • shes playing with the sugar packets because thats where the feelings are linked to.......

  • wow that girl's ugly

  • this bitch is so fucking annoying, she sucks at thinking of conversation on the spot, and her flirting is so fucking phony.

  • Genius, nuff said!

  • Nice, I've wanted to see some of the material that RJ always goes on about.

    Great demo.

    PS: To the anti-NLP people, why are you here? P off.

  • Awesome video!!

    and is this dangerous?

    can it not create a stalker if used with too strong an emotion??

    that is the only thing i would be afraid of.

  • I would be careful who you used it on. It will generate extreme attraction.

    Tom

  • I'm not anti-NLP, but this manipulation is troubling. It's strange to hear the teachers of it describe as "sneaky" and "covert", the very methods they advocate using to elicit specific reactions in unwitting participants, such as falling in love with you. I also find it hard to believe that this highly artificial way of interacting would go undetected in real life-how the target wouldn't ask "WTF are you doing?" is beyond me.

  • then you brake the Ancor but we should point out that this should not be used all the time with everyone you meet

  • For that matter, if it works, how do you know you're not teaching the next Ted Bundy a manipulative trick for building trust without substance. Isn't it better to build rapport by getting to know someone the old fashioned way; share your thoughts and feelings, encourage them to do the same, have some fun together, and see what develops? What kind of future does a couple have when the relationship is built on a foundation of one sided "covert" manipulations?

  • Interesting comment and one I get all the time. The facts are simple. When using anchoring to open doors for people to know you, you also have to live up to the anchor you set. If you violate that anchor then you destroy it.

    The real world effect is that these skills open the doorway of communication. They don't make people love you.

    It sounds like you don't trust yourself with this kind of skill :) People who make these kinds of comments usually see themselves abusing the skill

  • It's not about me; but rather the ethics of manipulating others. Regardless who does it, it's an abuse (if it works), to elicit feelings in a "covert", "sneaky" fashion, installing triggers (also covertly), so that you can control others' behaviors, push-button style. People are all flawed; I don't trust anyone with these manipulations. I checked out Bandler and Grinder in a number of videos; they use NLP in an overt, theraputic context, not as puppeteers. You get it all the time for a reason.

  • Gregorypeckory, we anchor each other, everyday, whether we know it or not. Some people we just feel good around and we've developed an anchor to them.

    And as to your manipulation assertions, everyone manipulates everyone else in some manner. Showering daily is a form of manipulation. Wearing cologne or perfume. Wearing fashionable clothes. THE PUSHUP BRA is a BIG form of manipulation. But nobody is taking a self righteous moral highground against those things, are they?

  • If the comparisons were valid, there would be courses in "sneaky showering", or how to avoid getting caught with perfume on. (BTW perfume is an abuse too; a chemical assault). This conscious attempt to change people's behavior without them knowing is for losers and sneaks. Otherwise, why conceal it? Nobody misses the fact of a pushup bra. Actually, I don't see how anyone could miss this weird behavior either. I wouldn't. My reaction: "WTF is your problem?"

  • @Gregorypeckory You are a loser. I wonder how is it that you know so much about being a loser and know so little about being adequate and intelligent? "You don't know shit, you're better off a loser when you become so ignorant to the people around you especially when you're trying to be self righteous" - my friend said this once to someone who in particular could only imagine himself displaying stupidity and devolved consciousness. Anyways its just that you seem like you're stupid and maybe more

  • I truely understand that you are worried about this and true people sometimes manipulate people.

    But this can also be used to keep and let the Bond of two people Grow in each other. And Having these skills can also allow you to have a wonderfull and Honest loving relationship.

    The manipulation you are talking about is really happening all the time. What about all those unlucky cuples, dont they often feel cheeted? How would it be if everyone would just life the relationship they dreamed?

  • Bonds don't require covert techniques. You don't need to sneak your way into relationships (unless you're a total loser). Just talk to people like a normal person. "People sometimes manipulate"? Yeah, as in the lesson above. Like I said, try it on me, and I'll be in your face, not accessing loving states. These techniques would appeal to the creepy loser character Michael, on the tv show, "The Office".

  • lol. well said. these tactics are only for short-term relationships it would seem. haha.

  • Great video. Very powerful indeed.

  • i dont think she did it discretly enough, in her tone of voice you can tell she doesnt give a sh*t about the things the guy has to say, shes concentrating way to hard on placing the anchor, derren brown is better :P

  • It is a DEMO..... Here is the funny part of this video. Ignore the guy she is anchoring. Watch the 2 guys in the background :)

    Also...since you are an expert...notice that she has 3 anchors on every state plus a natural accelerator and they are NOT the sugar packets.

  • oh i remember her voice. I have her tape set...luckly i did not pay for it. I posted in the wispering in the wind mess board about how irrating this group of presenters where. lots of people agreed with me..if you know anyone in the "group" let them know they are very irrating and not very good....God the people act like they created NLP but can't even develop a decent tone...LAME

  • I got a free tape too. I couldn't even listen to it. she is so annoying and arrogant; a real turn off. this is the opposite of what it think nlp should be. Ross jefferies uses sugar packets too, another winner. at the end of his book he says if all else fail cry and make the girl feel sorry for you. I bet he gets shitty chicks. we should hook him up with this girl. their foreplay would always include sugar packets. It would be a game of who could out-packet who.

  • for your information this girl kim already know who Ross is....they have even worked together shit head. Do your fucking homework!

  • @dannyhere4u

    good one :D

  • thats because your looking for it, the human brain pushes confusing input aside when it can easily be explained, however the signals go through...this is why your not compelled to talk about a friends eye twitch even though you pickup on it. And she is showing how its done not hiding it Darren does it covertly as much as possible and still if yon Know the techniques your pick up on them. i think they are both very good.

  • kim anv vizzini are RJ's friends. Never got around to using this stuff... Has tried RJ's srt and that seemed to work since after I used it I had my longest relationship ever for 1 year with a woman. Vizzini is Kim your wife?

  • very well done :)

  • this is great!! just amazing!!!

  • Can one actually use these techniques to make someone fall in love with him?

  • Yea... It's called NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming). Look it up. It' pretty amazing!

  • But, I don't understand. What exactly is she doing?

  • She's using anchors.... She tells him to feel his feelings and bring them out. She is anchoring these feelings in him so that he starts to remember more about what it felt like when he WAS in a relationship.

    Read the description and you see that she is using the condiments on the table as an anchor so that the next time he sees the sugar packet or whatever, he will begin to bring out the emotions that she made him feel. Making him feel good every time he sees a sugar packet or coffee cup. NLP

  • Who is this women? One of RJ's students? whats her name?

  • She is Kim McFarland and She and I teach this stuff in seminars and sell DVDs. If you really want to know how to do this yourself then go to our website essential-skills dot com.

  • Actually, she's RJ's EX! And if she ever was his student, she's certainly surpassed him. RJ himself cites her "evil levels of skill," although I have never found her to be anything but sweet, kind and devastatingly competent.

  • cool ^^

  • This is just plain flirtation.

    If a woman was speaking to me in that voice, and sliding her hand and finger towards me, i would be aroused.

    Simple as that........... should she take it away, i would feel rejected..........

  • haha so true

  • i second that

  • You are missing so much. It seems just like flirting because it is so sneaky. What you are missing is the states he goes into and how those states change as she fires the anchors and then changes again as she takes the feeling away.

    Notice his reactions to the sliding sugar packets instead of listening to what she is saying

  • She is not only choosing provocative words, she is speaking provocatively too.

    She practically masturbates the sugar-satchel at the end.

    It is highly suggestive behavior. The only "state" this man is in......... is aroused.

  • She's really good. Made me feel good :)

  • A pause is a blank and get a person imagining what comes next. Good placement of pauses is important. One can also project the word in the pause as a form of training a congruence with what most are not aware of.

  • Her pauses are sooo seductive :)

  • Hey Tom. I've been watching your stuff for quite some time and have enjoyed learning your techniques. Keep up the good work.

  • Thanks for posting this. Kim and I never get tired if seeing it. The funny thing is to watch the two guy in the background also go into and out of states.

    Tom Vizzini

  • Anchors can last forever depending on how strong the initial emotional reponse was and how precisely you can replicate the anchor. Take phobias as an example, when you see a spider you get terrified, the spider is a visual anchor that provokes the negative response.

    Examples from Wikipedia

    en.wikipedia*org/wiki/Anchorin­g_(NLP)

    Change * to .

  • how long do anchors last ????

  • How she put the man into state.

    1. She chose the state she wanted him to be in.

    2. She talks about experiences that put her into a certain state. She then asks him about experiences he's had that put him into this state.

    3. When he was in state she slided the sugar closer to him.

  • Other Notes

    -----------

    How the slide was setup.

    Kim ☻---☺---☼ Man  0 5 10

    ☻=Diminished state

    ☺=Average State

    ☼=Very Good State

    -Notice his response in each position

    So in effect it's just like a scale such as on a barometer where she chose where his state should be at.

  • 6. Kim now puts the sugar into the cup, in turn making the mug the new anchor containing the new state. Kim then continues to drink from the cup anchoring the 'feelings' to her then offers him to take a drink (don't think he can take any more at this stage)(07:50)

  • 5. Kim then "Stacks" all the sugar packets together combining them all into one NEW state and slides them into him to set off "fire" the anchor then gives them a shake, this is an "Auditory Anchor" the faster she shakes the more the state in the other person accelerates (again see his state shift, he's feeling real good now)(06:40)

  • 4. Embedded Commands - "where you can find a person you can share that with... NOW.WITH ME (embedded command for his unconscious to act upon, also notice her pointing to her self.You should be noticing these through the whole video.)

  • 3. Kim was asking questions about playfulness and ended up bring up a bad state about an old relationship the man was in (03:05). She then took the relationship and tossed it away as if it was a "hot potato" and was able to reconnect with the man about being playful (notice the gesturing she uses).

  • She used specific language to turn the state down down aswell.

    "..and I bet there's been times in your life when you've had no connection at all!" Notice his state immediately change! She then slided the sugar closer to him again to get the good state back (notice the state change and he nods his head in agreement)(02:15)

  • 2. She's able to accelerate each state by sliding the sugar packets closer to the man and by using the correct language (listen & watch). Kim reffered to things she's enjoyed in the past and was wanting to get a response from him on what he had enjoyed doing. Before he really said anything his face lit up like a xmas tree, Kim then calibrated to this and slid the sugar closer to him, literally "capturing" the state in the sugar packets!(06:05)

  • Maybe you don't understand what's going on here?

    1.Kim elicits different states from the participant and anchors each state to sugar packets by drawing his attention to them (look close).

  • I couldnt wattch it, i just bored the hell out of me.

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