Dawn of War 2 - Ork/Eldar x2 vs. SM/Eldar/Tyranid Pt.1

[SiQstyx]

lol ignorance, sc2 is so much better in balance, gameplay and everything.. I mean seriously the first actual game I've found has only 23k views?

[Optix334]

@SiQstyx What Sc2 calls balance, I call un realistic. 3 troopers should not be able to shoot down a battlecruiser unless those 3 troopers are manning an anti-orbital weapon. The game boils down to getting more units to the other person before they get a bunch to you, with minor tweaks that make no difference if you have enough units. Im not saying its a bad game, Im just saying I dont like the way its set up. I prefer my tanks to be killed by anti-tank weapons, and not a tiny machine gun.

[SiQstyx]

@Optix334 "3 troopers should not be able to shoot down a battlecruiser" This is incorrect, 3 marines aren't able to shoot down a BC lol. "The game boils down to getting more units to the other person before they get a bunch to you" bullshit, sc2 is about strategy as well as tactical engagements. Of course the person with the most units wins, that's what an RTS is about have sufficient macro/micro and strategic capabilities. I'm just going to ignore your last point.

[Optix334]

@SiQstyx Maybe 3 marines cant shoot down a battlecruiser, but the fact that they damage it at all is ridiculous in my mind, and are you trying to tell me that a protoss bio-ball, siege tank adv, and a zerg rush is not about how many of each unit you have. At least in DoW if I get rushed by tanks, I can take them out with a couple of anti-tank weapons. There is a lot more strategy with units that do 100 dmg to X and 0 dmg to Y than everything does X damage to Y and Z.

[ujigls]

@SiQstyx Starcraft cannot compare to this, there are different types of units (armour, specs such as anti-armor, etc.). Theres cover, units have abilities and are upgraded individually giving them a sense of importance. Much more realistic in all aspects, cover, distructable terrain. Beautiful graphics, did I mention sync kills? Bro this was 2009, vanilla Dow2, go play retribution.

[sm0kinj03]

My comp can run the demo fine, should it be able to run this game just as well?

[raargh2]

@sm0kinj03 pretty sure yes

and buy Retribution. it will give you all multiplayer updates and races (base game and the first expansion "Chaos Rising" will give you just their singleplayer campaign)

[zZGhostieZz]

@raargh2 Or If you enjoy entertaining long campaigns with RPG elements get the complete collection

[teethboy99]

why cant i play this maxed out?

my specs are:

windows 7

Inter core i5 processor i5-650

4gb ram

Ati radeon hd5450 1gb

[XmarkedSpot]

@teethboy99

Well your specs seem to be appropriate.

Dunno, maybe because of win7?

I ride it to the very fullest and it doesn't even heat to 35°C.

( xp - i7 / 920 - 3gb ocz - msi gts250 1gb )

[TheClubbman]

Ugh, I'm tired of people comparing DoW and StarCraft together. StarCraft originally was supposed to be a Warhammer game but it didn't turn out that way, but I think Blizzard did a very good job making that universe unique upon it's release.

That being said, at this point they are two COMPLETELY different games with completely different styles, while both great in their own rights are hardly comparable.

I have fun with both, and I don't see why everyone else has a hard time doing the same.

[BlaxicanX]

@TheClubbman

Word. 

[BlinkingBulbStudios]

Is it me or do the Orks talk with a Scottish accent?

[Cruithnig]

@BlinkingBulbStudios Just you, its a Cockney accent.

[NinjaSpartanThe]

could a vista run this? i can run Company of heros without lag and it has the greatest RTS graphics ever

[Jasutin]

@NinjaSpartanThe Your OS has little to do with what programs your computer can run. It's all in the CPU, GPU, Processor, and RAM you're running.

[BigNorwegianBear]

Actually... i would rather not have so much base building cuz its a pain in the ass i would rather just start figthing but i think it is Essential that in every RTS that u just gotta have some sort of "Barracks" and "Tank War Factory" u got make People and Tanks somehow.

[sebob123]

My only problem with dow 2 was the music. DoW 1 music was absolutely brilliant.

[BottledFairie]

This game is too addicting... I played it, and instantly I was hooked, gameplay is fast, almost anyone can make it with some elbow grease and luck, and it's not so damn slow to make such a quality game, I mean compare it to how long Starcraft 2 took. I think it's over-hyped, when games like this come out, and they're faster, and funner to play.

[Assaultpredator]

@BottledFairie

Faster?

Sc2 is much faster paced, micro is much more important.

[30popcorn]

to be a good ork player you need orks and lots of them there like the tyranids alone not the best but toghter you might aswell not try.

[00poopmonster]

tyranids are cool

[enchapi]

but then its a role play game and not a strategy game.

personaly I like the planing of buildings, looks more like dawn of war 2 is creating a new game style like ARTS (action real time strategy) or SRTS (speed real time strategy)

[kiewi101]

do people still play this online if so plz message me *great vid =D *

[PieMan1018]

lol at 4:54 "I've Got eldar blood all over me! Its so shiny!"

[ycandy4andy]

The Warhammer mmo is already out bro.. unless you mean the 40k version which i've hread nothing of... And btw the 2012 ending is a theory :D not a fact D

[hurrayforvideogames]

2012 is going to be the Warhammer 40k MMO comes out, and- and- *sniff* the year the world ends *sob* i hope i get my copy before hand ='(

[enchapi]

no base building = sucks

[KrptoSodium]

@enchapi i actually disagree if you ask me makes the game focus more on battle than boring making buildings

[stumphacker]

@enchapi lies

[Freddirector]

I like how Relic is perfecting the RTS genre. And please do not mention Blizzard. They have been up there ass with World of Warcraft. They have delayed Starcraft 2 too long, i just don't care anymore. Just give me Dawn of War and i will be happy. Relic is ace in my book.

[westcoastzilla]

@Freddirector

yeah relic is a good RTS maker

i used get pissed when I introduce DoW to people, they'll say "so, it's just a starcraft clone with better graphics?"

morons.

[starhawks1]

that's funny i get sooo pissed when people think dow is copying starcraft...w40k has been around a good 10 to 15 years before starcraft

[ibloxProductionz]

@westcoastzilla Fact is, warhammer 40k came out before starcraft ^^

[phatmatt885]

@westcoastzilla Except Starcraft sucks =D Whe i look at starfcraft, im like "what the hell is this?" Its just flat out boring and the graphics are weird and dated

[crankdatsouljaskater]

@westcoastzilla i agree people who say DoW is a starcraft clone are retards DoW 2 is a different genre of rts wich makes it bad ass

[Savci008]

@westcoastzilla Yeah, they are different, although they look similar for some.

If I'd have to compare it to anything of Blizzard, it would be Warcraft 3 because of the low damages.

[halafradrimx]

@westcoastzilla Actually Star Craft is a 40k clone.

I mean, come on dude! Tyranids are a terrible insectoid/reptilian-like swarm devouring everything in it's path.

The Zerg is a terrible insectoid/reptilian-like swarm devouring everything in it's path.

GW came up first with it, so I'm pretty sure they are unoriginal bastards, not GW.

[Dominub]

@Freddirector If only it weren't for games for windows live.

[stj69]

@Freddirector perfecting the rts gengre? are you serious. Dow is a great series but the total war series is as close to perfect rts as u can get

[trooper59]

@Freddirector

i think Age of Empires was pretty good, especially 2 but then again they just HAD to make Halo Wars...

[LastRussianEmporer]

@trooper59 Aoe was good till they made the third one the realism shit the bed ive never seen anyone load a cannon in 4 seconds

[LONcreeps]

@Freddirector

sc2 > dow2

by a country mile

[yigiyoo99]

@Freddirector wow you know starcraft 2 is out right

[iamwhatyoubleed]

@yigiyoo99 wow, you know he posted it 9 months ago right?

[Sirrio91]

@Freddirector i prefer company of heroes more, i think coh have more tactical deepness

[Savci008]

@Freddirector Perfecting? The RTS genre?

Do you realise that there are seveal other directions that could be "perfected" inside the RTS genre? They were just all abandoned for games like DoW or SC.

Other than that, I like how they try to create something new by making bigger changes to the previous game. I just hope they don't spoil it like C&C has been spoiled :)

From what I've seen on youtube, Starcraft appears to be more strategic - here, I oftentimes see just two armies clash together.

[Optix334]

@Savci008 Starcraft is only 3 strategies, Terrans use the siege tanks to slowly move up, Protoss bio-ball, and Zerg just.....zerg things. At least in DOW it matters on a unit to unit basis who wins, not 300 marines somehow shoot down a space cruiser which somehow got shrunk down enough to fit on screen. Both games have deception though, and thats what does it for me, although Dow does it way better.

[Savci008]

@Optix334 DoW combat always seemed really shallow to me, there isn't real micro management over the usual tactical decisions and macro management is essencially non-exsistant. Of course, the point based gameplay makes up for some of this and requires quite a lot of the players' attention, but making decisions isn't a challenge unit composition wise.

I've got nothing against it, though.

[Optix334]

@Savci008 Theres alot of challenges in unit composition. A squad of shootas wont take down a predator or any kind of vehicle with any kind of acceptable speed. As far as micro between the two games, I stopped playing SC2 awhile ago so I dont really remember....but from what I do the only micro I know of is upgrades and stim packs for marines and things like that. Dow has that in the form of weapons, powerups and abilities for most units, and there are some without. Its a good mix though.

[SiQstyx]

@Optix334 You don't get it, do you?

[intavent]

the maps on this game look so good.

[Robbielangford]

you need to retreat more often bro, all i have to say, because its a pain to reinforce troops

[Benmen776]

Yes your right because dawn of war 2 or COH are not the type of rts where you can win with just an onslaught of troops or massive armies, you have to play with what you got a lot and fall back if you lose.

[TheBloodVeteran]

we are the orks we are the biggest and meanest orks who has ever lived and this is our waaaaaaagh!

[Ninjamon1233]

orks is the grennest and the badest!

[souldude151]

i hate this game its just so unfair on the races.

[10Maloy]

ya ifur able to beat tyranids or space marines with orks when there at full strength either ur opponent sucks or u completly pwn

[princeofseleuca1]

thiz iz right n propa WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!

[MrBlade690]

Waaaaaaaagh!!!!

[Olidaeine]

i love the orks!!!!

[AFLive]

awesome game!!

[jingo285]

Freakin awesome dude nice vid to bad u picked the wrong commander lols though =)

[Tojiro06]

very good quality video

[Itoby2]

When are some new videos coming up? I love too see you play ^^

[azorazan]

high quality runs fine, but it takes much time to load.