PSN Pass Clarification | Unofficial Details

[ratedtriplex]

your uncharted two example is what i did with mass effect. bought the 1st one for 14 bucks at gamestop, got addicted to it like it was crack and bought the collectors edition of part 2 and will do the same for part 3.

also, i bet if u buy the game new WITH IN a certain amount of time, there's no charge for multiplayer. however, if u buy the game new 6 months later, that passcode may have expired

[afroman920]

Please anwser I have many account on one ps3 do I need to buy may online passes to use on my other accounts on one ps3 yes or no please send me a message thanks :)

[DABS139]

Any used game purchased after the release of Resistance 3 will require you to buy an online pass...

[illexsupreme]

WOW! i completely agree 1000% with what you said.

[piratron1985]

i wonder if that apply to a older game we already have ?

[UT3MONTAGE]

What about ps plus members? If anything we shouldn't have to for the pass thing? I mean I buy new games anyway so it shouldn't bother me but I was just thinking?

[DStaticVG]

Either way Sony is going to lose money. so i doubt they will do this. stupid idea is so stupid.

[PS3GameplayX]

What about renting? Blockbuster gamefly? What bout that

[SHiTJuFro743]

@PS3GameplayX YOU. GET. FUCKED. FUCK ALL THESE BASTARDS!!!!

[FarFar678]

What if you bought a used game before this happens? Do you still have to pay?

[UT3MONTAGE]

@FarFar678 Only for games that use the online pass. if you have a used game that doesn't require an online pass i would say you won't have to pay.

[naterboy1]

What if you have 2 PS3's or more than 1 account?

[joner2010]

@bgggbb I'm hearing it's attached to the console and to any account on it... can someone confimr it is to the account?

[thaNORWEGIANzero]

FUCK SONY IM SWITCHING TO XBOX FFS I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT!

[jordaaan96]

What happens if you use lovefilm? Would you need to pay the twenty bucks or so to play it online?

[LastKyless123]

As an xbox user I think their just trying to make up for money they don't get when you don't pay for a subscription to go online. It's all about the money these days. I hope things don't get too bad over there.

[keeganedmonds]

I dont buy used games. I just think that there might be something wrong with them or they might not work

[nathan123483]

@keeganedmonds all game shops have to make sure the games work before selling them

[convoytim]

@keeganedmonds if you buy from a gamestop you wont have to worrry about that problem.

[Riku72293]

The highest amount that online play for games would cost would be 10$ not to mention a used game for half price (or less) you have already saved $20.

[eshawman]

Dang I got Mw2,Mw1,WaW used.... And lot's of other games

[xIBoLTx]

so now theres bassicly no oint of buying a used game

[nathan123483]

@xIBoLTx only if both the game and the psn pass cost less than a new copy of it

[xXTyL3r32146Xx]

what if my friends brings his game over i have 2 pay 2 ply it for a hour or so and how would they know if its new or used

[Fduffle]

nice beard gunns

[HomiesOfMars]

Homefront and Need for Speed Hot Pursuit did the same thing for PS3 AND Xbox360...You had to have a code to play online! :0

[PlaystationKid64]

I'm not getting uncharted 3 if i fucking have to pay for online.

[HomiesOfMars]

@PlaystationKid64 Remember only if you get it used

[PlaystationKid64]

@HomiesOfMars is this with any game do you think?

[HomiesOfMars]

@PlaystationKid64 hope not!

[JordanNKKO]

OMG you dipshits who want to switch to X Box you wont get the game anyway coz Resistance is an exclusive. You will have to buy the console, cords, plus the $60 online fee so just buy it new for $5 more. God. I'm fine with this anyway because I want the used game industry to die!!!!! I fucking hate used games. Also, if you want to get an Xbox get one by all means just dont get just because of the pass.

[glich86]

is this not exactly what EA has been doing for f*cking years! its annoying as hell and i hate having to pay these big comapnies just so they f*cking get some extra buck! they dont need more money when there budget is paid for on only the new copies! its a f*cking money grabe that doesnt f*cking help there images when they just lost 1/4 of their f*cking community!

[yoyoo9000]

What about game fly if they rent them the same games will they have to give them a pass for every person, i think game fly will be pissed.

[grassyloki]

just get a xbox

[NOXsaiv]

i bought Dead space 2 online pass in psn for only 1.45$, didn't thought that there might be like 20 dollars for online passes! :S

[kissa4224]

its funny becuase EA does this for xbox too, i have to buy an online pass for my sports games on xbox

[FunnyGuy5051]

i rent from gamefly, FML

[TheCrazy135]

lol I did it lol I bought used mw2 then I bought new black ops :D

[DefexGaming]

Also, its like Battlefields VIP pass, which did not go to this extent, but it was only availble with a brand new copy...

[DefexGaming]

This sounds like if I have two accounts, it wants me to pay money... thats what im seeing out of this aswell

[elcrackito08]

But you haven't talked about one thing: what happens to people that don't have the PStore in their countries?

I have friends from Romania that can't play their brand-new FIFA 11 because they don't have access to the PStore and they can't activate the EA Pass.

What do you think about that?

[Walmart193]

Alright which one of you peoples is going to make me a keygen?

[MrG3tBaKeD]

@Narutofroever Sony is talking about establishing monthly fees like xbox has soon. soo..

[fearzbeazt555]

I always try to get new games but I don't think it's fair for used game buyers Bc it may be a cheaper option to be able to enjoy most games when there low of cash :( wouldn't used games be more expensive that way? I disagree with it. A lot of ppl will be ticked if this does pass

[narutofroever]

People it really isnt that bad seriously... all you have to do is pay for a new game and boom there you go with the all to access free online pass kinda like Battlefield and Medal of honor. But if you buy the game used then you'll have to buy the online pass for that game that will be sold on the PS Store for each game seperately, certain games tho. Dont worry online play will still be free just buy the game new. Were even lucky that sony isnt charging us for online play but they are generous:)

[BameronCerry]

You do realize that the way to get around this, ike with EA's sports pass, is just trade account info with someone who bought the pass and download it yourself on your ps3.

[BameronCerry]

This is exactly what EA Sports did.

[Stackedeck1990]

What I don't understand is how these companies have the fucking cheek to use the lie that they are a bit short on cash, how the fuck does this happen.

1. Sony are one of the richest companies in history!!!

2. EA are one of the most popular, richest and longest running developers in history!!!

Just how much money do these greedy fucking bastards want, is what they already have not enough??

[monsterade100]

@Stackedeck1990 hey fuckhead think how much it fucking costs to make a game sometimes games take five years or more so think the software it takes to make it the staff payments over five years it costs to make a game they don't just make it without using any of their wads of cash think more!

[SONYElectronic]

@demagos009 It is playstation exclusives

[demagos009]

@SONYElectronic Can you provide proof that its just exclusives? Because all i have heard has been rumors by people who claim they know whats going on.

[MrOutkastic]

... Selfish bastards, 'nuff said.

[daaper]

I feel the damage it could deal to the pirating community far outweighs what it does to the used game market. That being said, I also don't buy used games. If I want a game cheaper, I just wait until the stores drop the price.

[daaper]

@daaper And by that I mean, screw the pirates! They're the ones that will lead to rising prices if this goes unchecked.

[ALLYCAT591]

That's it, I'm selling my PS3.

[AnemWuam]

Me n my bro both have play stations n we both use each others games. So if we borrow a game from each other n wanna play multiplayer, we can't play unless we pay?

[radboy365]

This actually makes sense because this is a way Sony can make up the money they lost during the hack, also the ps3 has lost millions of dollars for Sony not that's a bad thing but it has not been profitable

[radboy365]

Gamestop is gonna be pissed cuz now it won't be worth buying a 45$ used mw3 game if u have to go to the trouble of buying a psn pass this greatly devalues used ps3 games! Just bought a used cod4 game wanna play online nope its not worth it!

[radboy365]

I bet gamestop is pissed cuz now it won't be worth I to buy a 45 $

[hulksmash911911]

wooo go activision

[darkblood626]

I play almost exclusively on PC and have to put up with shit like DRM, but it is worth it to me for dedicated server’s mod tools and so on however It has always made me wonder with all the money consoles nickel and dime out of its users from live, DLC and higher game prices in general what are they exactly getting form it that wasn’t already complementary on PC? Or are console players just buying water in a bottle?

[Dannyboy1861995]

If sony makes it lyk Xbox live, i will get an xbox just for Halo.

But if its just a pass for used games IDC i always buy them new.

[BigFarley09]

What about people who rent games????

[hulksmash911911]

@BigFarley09 big point

[majorcian]

with the used games the disc for the game could be a bit damaged so that is another reason for it being a bit cheaper

[DeadpoolvsSpiderman]

i understand why sony is doing this because of all the money they lost during the outage

[DeadpoolvsSpiderman]

the only games i buy used are single player only games

[109aman]

when ever i buy games that need a pass online to play if its used like mortal kombat the worker there always no matter who it is he/she gives any buddy the pass for free so i think a lot of the game stops will be affected by thid

[TameemMuhsen]

Guys calm down...why are so many comments saying that they want to switch to Xbox???

Do you guys realize that Sony is just doing this to gain the money they lost when they got hacked?? How much was it again? 172 MILLION dollars, its ok, lets support sony, hopefully they will take off the PSN PASS later....

[zergrusher1]

@TameemMuhsen they wont

[glich86]

@TameemMuhsen ya...they wont. thats the problem. if there was even the SLIGHTEST chance they woul get rid of it after they make their money back, then fine what ever, its a buisness. but they wont, theyll use it, break even they never get rid of it because they money hungry bastereds!

[HomiesOfMars]

@TameemMuhsen I thought it was 172 Billion

[XJVHS]

@TameemMuhsen I really doubt that they will take PSN Pass away when it comes into use. But who knows?

[miyakuroyama]

@TameemMuhsen once established never removed, it is very lucrative to just disappear

[convoytim]

@TameemMuhsen you guys supports it, they just see that there making millions and continue to use the pass untill people get fed up and switch.

[SHiTJuFro743]

@TameemMuhsen YOU ARE AN ASSSSSSSHHHHHHOOOOOLLLLLEEEEEE­E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUPPORT SONY?!??!?!?! WHY THE FUCK SHOULD WE HELP THEM MAKE THAT MONEY BACK?!??!?!? THEY WERE BEING CHEAP MOTHERFUCKS WITH NO FUCKING SECURITY ON THEIR ONLINE!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS UP UR ASS!!!!!!!!?????? SONY'S DICK???

[Ichiguru]

Pirates, excluding jack Saprrow, suck. Go NINJA!!! :D

[Ichiguru]

Sony is gonna lose a lot of fans & supporters for this

[Subscriber01236]

will they make us pay for games that we got before the psn pass cus if so f*** sony and im gonna sell all my ps3 games and ps3 (maybe) and get a XBOX360 (maybe)

[TheDuckgo]

probly work out like xbox gold member ship

[blackandwhitemaste]

gamefly bye-bye

[TheFrankman37]

i think that we will have to pay because of the outage and sony has to gett there money back

[XMuruX]

If this happens.. I'm quiting gaming. Im selling my ps3 and stick to books for fuck sakes. At least books don't have problems.

[megarhino100]

@XMuruX

books,..... lovely old books. Who needs gaming when we have books? Im a fucking reading whore. read. read. read. couldn't live without books.........books.......

[y2kEveryDay]

@XMuruX books are great but instead you should just quit ps3 and go to x box or pc... and books

[TombstoneInc]

@innoutpandaexpress you said that u only gotta pay when buying used. on xbox 360 i may pay 8 dollars a month but i buy used and play online, used games are much cheaper than new, 60 DOLLARS is a joke for new games, the savings i get being able to buy used is great. I wait for games to get at least 6 months old because i dont believe in buying new, and i know that when i do get it, it will still have lots of players on it, im not gonna miss much. SO 8 dollars IS WELL worth bypassing buying new.

[vistakillerhacks]

That's why i'm gonna buy an Xcock.

[xxxxCronoxxxx]

this isnt only going to most likely kill the used game indistry but also kill renting games

whats the point of renting a game to see what the online play is like if you have to pay 50% or so of the cost to try it out for mabey a week

you might as well just buy the game at that price

i liked to rent games to find out if i whant to buy but now it looks like i wont be abel to do that and it will cost them in my case

[danguy2009]

This system will infact be worse than piracy. for the people who cant afford to buy new and want to play online then they will just go elsewhere and even affect the console sales.

Say your parents are thinking about buying you a ps3 but you're told you have to buy the games out of your own pocket money, you see that this system is coming out which prices you out of buying used and having to pay for the online code. you would then tell your parents to get you an Xbox 360 or whatever.

[walmartguide]

This will affect the people that buy the game new also. The trade in value will drop dramatically for the ps3 versions.

[themanpure]

Its pirating fault.

[Demonat865]

hmmmm...... looks like the shoes on the other foot. xbox is the cheaper console now. :/ well.......... not to be a fanboy but xbox is starting to look better.

[Demonat865]

hmmmm...... looks like the shoes on the other foot. xbox is the cheaper console now. :/ well..........

[fragger105]

i am a huge fan of ps3 but if they keep being greedy bastards then i am definitally going to xbox because this is rediculous they need to go back to caring about the gamers and not filling their pockets and get their heads out of their asses and figure out that its for the benifit of the gamers and not getting a bigger paycheck....we dont HAVE to have you ps we can go to if needed

[KashgroundTM]

@fragger105 the console with the least income is ps3......so no

[gott1rott]

Whatever. I have no loyalties so I'll do whatever is cheapest in the long run. If that means only using ps3 for the 3 or 4 exclusives I play, so be it. It's a shame though. They know most people can't afford to or won't buy 2 systems, so they're stuck with this.

[gboy556]

Noooo that means that when my two brothers and I get an online game, we'll have to all play on one PSN! Fuck you Sony!!!

[pisitama]

@UnDefeatedLegend the ps3 doesn't brake like the 3shitty

[21magicman21]

off topic here, but has those white shelves always been there?

[21magicman21]

ps3 ppl should consider this:

buy an xbox360, and get a controller converter to use a ps controler, bc this is ridiculous.

[fgd49v2]

@21magicman21 no no its not

[IICRABSII]

I personally don't like used video game sales. If you buy a game used the developer will not see a single penny of that sale. The only people getting money is gamestop or people that sell used games. Why would you buy a game that just came out for $54.99 when you can buy it for $59.99 and support the developer so they get the money instead of gamestop. Games like Call of Duty can make it with used game sales but what about smaller titles that need every single new sale to keep the company going.

[danguy2009]

@IICRABSII But the Developer has already had that sale. some people dont buy used games out of choice it out of having to because they maybe cannot afford the a new copy. it does not affect the developer because if the user couldn't buy the used game they wouldnt be able to buy the new one for the reason above. and not all used games are such a close price to new copy.

[IICRABSII]

@danguy2009 I totally understand that some people can't buy new games. I've bought a few used games in my life because I couldn't afford the game new. I don't see anything wrong buying an older game used that has been out for a while that might be hard to find a new copy. What I'm talking about is the people that buy games used that just came out to save 5 dollars. If you already have the 55 dollars for the used copy you can save 5 dollars and buy new one.

[danguy2009]

@IICRABSII I agree with that but it must just be a USA thing because the prices here in the UK arent usually that close.

[ImmersiveGaming]

@IICRABSII why would i pay 60 when i could pay 55?

[erigtrh]

@IICRABSII especially if there good games

[erigtrh]

wat if you buy your games new at gamestopwill that affect it?

[highdraulicks]

@IICRABSII are you SERIOUS? who cares your getting like 7 to sometimes like 20$ off! i went to buy halo 3 one day, and instead of getting it for 40$ i got it for 15$!!!!!! just like walmart quotes SAVE MONEY LIVE BETTER!

[IICRABSII]

@highdraulicks I'm not talking about older games. I can understand buying older games used that have been out for a while because it might be hard for someone to find the game new in stores because most stores only carry games on the shelf for so many months before they stop carrying it because of space. I'm talking about games that just came out where you will only see a $5 difference. For instance if someone bought Battlefield 3 or Skyrim used the same week it comes out just to save 5 bucks.

[highdraulicks]

@IICRABSII yea i see your point there i usualy buy it new BUT they should stop trying "new" things that have to do with people's wallets cause sooner or later something bad is gonna happen

[Leez000]

@IICRABSII Dude some people cant afford to buy brand new games. I'm not saying that I cant afford it but its unfair that sony get paid for me selling my game to someone else. They are nothing to do with the sale and i'm sure that you will see a lot less people playing a variety of games and just sticking to the massive titles ie Call of Duty and perhaps Fifa

[exlHD]

@IICRABSII You won't be able to lend a game to your friend that wants to play multiplayer. We poor fucks will need to spare more money and takes more time to pay for this greedy company.

And the developer already made money. There is no need to give them more.

[exlHD]

@IICRABSII The money goes to Sony and not to the developer.

[RoastedLewis]

stores like blockbusters are in da shit!

[SuperOmark1]

love the new backround lol

[guitarheroman202]

would psn even be able to tell if the game is pirated? because if it is on a different disc, then wouldn't that make it undetectable?

[RoastedLewis]

@guitarheroman202 yes they can tell

[kaygar22]

@David12345678D fuck option 2 dude i wouldnt pay shit for psn it is useless believe me im a sony fan but xbl is waaaayyy better than psn. im not paying 50/40/30$ a month for shit like psn

[0204420]

This is gonna fuck up GameFly.......

[zj884]

If sony put this through I'll stop buying sony product.

[mydarkestfear13]

This Shit Just Killed BlockBuster!! u cant rent games Fuuuck that soo fucked up

[Kamikaze923Gamer]

Your wrong Gunnz. The money they make from the games doesn't go to support the game servers, it goes to bitches,hookers, partying, homes, cars, vacations and other useless crap like medical care,lol.

[AK47VSM162010]

what if your pirating a game you own i have halo combat evolved i even have the code but i lost the disc.....

[WIleyCubScout]

I support developers, in general the ones producing new and interesting IP's.

This is an attempt to regain some of the lost revenue to the used games market.

If the money creates more games, I'm all for it.

In a perfect world I'd wish that the publishers and distribution chains could strike

a deal where a percentage of the proceeds return to the developer. That would end the need for the "one save" feature and $10 passes.

People don't seem to realize the actual ramifications of this pass

[TheUndefeatedLegend]

Hey guys imagine if your ps3 broke and you had like 50 ps3 games

[TheUndefeatedLegend]

BTW gunns the psvita has crossgame chat the free app is called party and you can invite friends and talk together while playing diffrent games , they might do that also to the ps3 when the PSVITA comes out

[stephan20008]

IM GOING TO NOW BUY AN XBOX

[Nerdling99]

I love how theres lary playstation people having ago at xbox people cause they r pissed off that they r getting ripped off...we all spend too much on games as it is

[espdemon]

The PAY-Station 3!

[sexyboy5768]

@espdemon AND PSP VISA as if you need a visa card

[Icaughtoncamera]

I have been loyal to ps but this fucken pissed me off so much Here is a list of things

1 no cross game chat

2 they can't fucking keep online from getting hacked

3 and now we at gonna have 2 pay for online 4 used games FUCK THEM PRICKS! Xbox is gonna get a lot more people now

[xchangip]

Hah! Old background :D

[OMGYourMother]

Who cares how big the discs are. Just download or put it on more discs like me2 did. Besides, they use different formats like how escalation was 2gb on ps3 while 700 MB on Xbox. And most multiplatform games don't even use all of what the ps3 discs have.

[Dersi007]

lol sony is gonna lose alot of support from its fans

[superphilps3]

atleast ps3 is getting games unlike xbox

[NinjaDag1]

I would never sell a game i bought! many years ago I sold all my master system games, today i struggle to get them back!

[Ant2Fresh]

didnt know u could copy games...

[SupFag1]

this is a good move by sony. when you buy a used car, you don't get all the services like a warranty. online play is a SERVICE! get over it cryfags

[randomizer885]

@SupFag1 I buy new games so I don't care.

[5324er]

these are UNOFFICIAL details. before u people say that ur gonna sell ur PS3, wait until sony is even gonna do this fee thing (which they probably are). but wait and see how much it costs!! or if u do buy a used game. every game doesnt HAVE to have multiplayer.

[randomizer885]

LOL I laugh to you people. I don't really care if the psn pass would get to use, cuz I never ever buy used games. And the network getting hacked could have happened to xbox just as well so shut the fuck up Xbox fanboys. Ur disk is smaller size than ours lol. Uncharted would suck on Xbox.

[REPINTDOT]

@randomizer885 so what if u borrow a game from a buddy and u wanna play online then what u idiot

[randomizer885]

@REPINTDOT Well I don't borrow games from my friends. I think i'd rather visit my friends and play the game there.

[darkprince2666666666]

its offical there doing it

[Subscriber01236]

THIS BETTER NOT BECOME A REALITY

[Subscriber01236]

SCREW SONY 1ST THE OUTRAGE NOW THE PSN PASS SCREW THEM I JUST GOT A PS3 NOW IM THINKING OF SELLING IT F*** SONY

[omgwtfbbq6666]

SOME SELLERS ON EBAY DO NOT USE THE CODES....DON'T WORRY PEOPLE, JUST ASK THE SELLER IF HE USED IT OR NOT AND YOU'LL BE FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scottghost67]

IM SWITCHING TO XBOX NOW

[TaKKtiiKZz]

Lol I just realized PS3 doesn't have cross game chat HOW THE HELL IS IT EVEN IN A WAR AGAINST XBOX 360 AFTER GETTING HACKED PS3 IS SHIT HAHA GLAD I HAVE AN XBOX.

[socr4vita]

@TaKKtiiKZz Well PSN is free, it has a built in blu-ray player, and has higher rated exclusives. Xbox has cross game chat....

[TheXXfusionzXX]

@socr4vita Xbox has 10.5GB CD ROM DISC PS3 has a 50GB BLU RAY DISC

[TaKKtiiKZz]

@socr4vita No party chat option, gets hacked, now this, blueray doesn't matter I bought a GAME system.

[socr4vita]

@TaKKtiiKZz Ha xbox got hacked for half a month around the launch of Halo 3. PSN wasn't down bc of the hack, but bc they were rebuilding the infrastructure. So party chat is the ONLY thing xbox has over ps3 rlly... which you pay $60 for.

[DigiChan]

WTFBBQ PAY EXTRA? Games are expensive as it is already! D:< lksdjkssjksbfjksbfj

[DigiChan]

:< This is to filter the game sharers out there *sigh*

[TehGuy43]

Sounds Like Gamefly will get Boned also

[Fr0stiisauce]

If i wouldve known they were thinking of this, i would've saved 100 dollars buying an xbox.

[MrSwagmasterfizzle]

the sons of bitches

[tkpanda]

ya its wrong, but its briliant, and i respect briliance.

[crisisbreaker54]

wasnt ps3 supposed to get cross game chat like may 31st? lmfao

[xXTOXIC0WAFFLESXx]

How can they make us pay for games we payed for nearly 5 or more years before this >:D

[Massakre8492nd]

@xXTOXIC0WAFFLESXx that is why it's gonna be on new exclusives

[MegaDomo100]

I actually have no problem with this :l