Hi Mate, the other day I was looking through the bedroom window when I noticed that the young lady who lives next door was sunbathing NAKED!!!. My natural reaction to this was to remove my penis and begin to masterbate. When I turned around I my wife was stood there with her arms folded.
The opening con is "I just ... " discounting herself, discounting how she feels, discounts the problem, also shows low self-esteem in that she doesn't feel important enough to talk about herself or her problems. Contract could be for her to decide she is important enough to have her needs, and them move onto contracting around how she meets them. :o) it's no wonder she frustrates herself!
Why would this be 'complete quackery'! Maybe the client finds it too confrontational to express how she feels to Jeff. The main point of a counselling session is that a client is able to feel safe enough to truly express what is going on for them in their lives.
This is terrible therapy and doesn't represent Gestalt therapy. The therapist here is submissive and dull-minded, he recites Gestalt literature, he's not actually in touch with his patient. He doesn't make contact.
"who do you feel angry at" he is presuming that her anger is directed towards a person......if it isn't, she is less likely to say "nobody" and more likely to start searching for a person to blame.....and there may not really be one.....and all this time we are concerning ourselves with the counsellors ideas instead of hers
1:15 she may not be experiencing it in her body. the counsellor suggested it to her because thats how HE experiences frustration. how could he know how anyone else really percieves reality, however, she went along with it and started considering her physical feelings. she is now carrying part of the counsellors perceptions while she explains.......so we are no longer talking about her authentic feelings.
@killlerzoo gestalt and similar therapies require extended training and it is illegal to practice them without the necessary qualifications. You need a degree in psychology or some other health related profession like psychiatry, nursing etc. You carry on with specialised training in a specific psychotherapeutic approach. In the States you will need a doctoral degree. In Europe you will need a Masters in (clinical)psychology and further practical training (3-4yrs). hope this helps:D
This guy is analysing her anger to the point of confusing her. instead of listening, reflecting he's re-framing without first addressing the source of anger, skipping from 'I' statements to 'how' without prompting the 'why'....
@MrAshleyBell: A gestalt therapist never would or will analyse! He listens well and he reframes for making the client aware of what the client says and feels. There is also no ultimate need to address the anger, because it is anxiety wich lies under the anger. And finally: a gestalt therapist NEVER asks "why". "Why" leads back to thoughts. Takes apart from feeling.
But globalmarkets you must know that as any other gestalt techniques if you aply this on yourself the effect is none...You need a therapist to do this a the technique needs to be adapted accordingly to the client
Wolfeyex I think you misunderstood globalmarkets' comment. I don't think that he is suggesting to go through the therapy sessions with no therapist, only the final technique used by the therapist where Sandra is asked by the therapist to speak to Jeff, her ex husband, - personified by an empty chair.
From my understanding globalmarkets is wondering if having a picture of Jeff for Sandra to talk to would make the technique more effective.
it could help, but the process of the empty chair is to get out their unfinished "gestalt". The next step would be to have her switch seats and be her husband to respond to what she just said, so the chair is necessary
I really enjoyed this session and agree with most of the other comments about the therapist. He seems so relaxed that it allows the client to open herself up and express herself to him. VERY NICE! :-)
@logansGT Even though your post was written a year ago, maybe this is still helpful: Find a Hypnotherapist and be happy. If you've visited a psychiatrist for 12 years and still feel the problem isn't solved yet, I belief it is time to find someone else. After all, what do you've got to lose? All the best to you
blugaris: You're right, there are no miracle cures, however, a skilled therapist skillfully applying a theapeutic model can do a lot of good. NLP, Gestalt, PCT and CBT (and others)have all been shown beneficial, however, at the end of the day it comes down to WHO the therapist IS, and the nature of the relationship between client and therapist.
This is garbage. This idiotic "therapist" asks his patient how being frustrated feels for her. It's the result of an outfome worse than expected, in english. how does it feel? Of course she feels tight. It's a sympathetic response. lmao idiots
he has to ask her what frustration is for her because he shouldn't be guessing how she feels. Frustration could mean a lot of different feelings for a lot of different people. When the definition is clarified by the client then it can be properly addresses
Why is this space an argument about whether NLP or Gestalt therapies work better? This is a video about Gestalt therapy. Yes, NLP was founded on Gestalt principles, but who is to say what works better? But, as long as we're on that subject, Maxxsee, psychotherapy outcome research suggests that it is similarity between therapist and client in their preference of modality that is the most important tool, (not excluding the client's own capacity to heal).
hahaah. you believe that this works its up to you and your costumers. I rely on what I've seen for myself and others. if anyone who want to get better quickly use NLP since it can make you FEEL DIFFERENT about your past instead of just RELIVING it, which only makes bad feelings stronger. I believe in meditaion too btw, its been around for centuries, and its effects can be measured in the brain, just like the effects of NLP can mrs Therapist ;)
great way to make money if your practicing. but if your the one who needs help this stuff is a waste of time. go learn about NLP.
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Indeed. I believe the gestalt therapists intentions are all good. If you rehearse bad feelings the will get stronger! It has been proven. Gestalt therapy rehearses it. You don't want to rehearse bad feelings EVER. Learn NLP its the one thing that can give you true control and freedom. Richard Bandler has some new cool books out, check out amazon
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Gestalt and such techniques has been prooven to increase the negative feelings (if you use it to get rid of anger, frustration etc) since the mind rehearses the feelings. if you want to feel good and such NLP is the only logical choice or some meditation etc
How perfectly ironic that you say that Gestalt is "new aged hogwash" when NLP is touted by most psychologists as being new-aged, and scientifically unfounded. NLP was created from Gestalt therapy. Those are its origins.
What works for you may not work for others. Why the criticisms?
its a mothodology, attitude and a set of techniques to change behaviour and design your way of percieving and moving through the world to make you feel better and enjoy life more
you people are ridiculous... this is actually a great example of Gestalt Therapy... anyone who says it isn't obviously knows nothing about it... it completely embodies what Gestalt is.
@traciabrooke I'm a Gestalt therapist, and maybe to set the record straight, I think that this is what a second or third year student of Gestalt therapy would act like - it is not the way a fully trained Gestalt Therapist would act like. As a post below says, he is not in contact with his client. He fails to be fully in the "Here And Now" with the client, and that's the primary duty of a Gestalt Therapist.
I am trying to get help with serious complex issues. I am an inventor and am dealing with issues larger then just anxiety, depression , ect, I would like to know what you are talking about.
try searching google/torrent sites for "richard bandler how to live a happy life" or anyone of his other videos. Im not sure what you mean by issues greater than depression. Are you schizophrenic? if so, your still in for quite a treat.
I am disapointed about a lot of things, and has led me into depression. Many my fault, some are not.
Richard has been accused of murder, was a coke addict for years, has been divorced, has been declared bankrupt twice (once when he was 50!), is obese!! And, I saw a video of one of his seminars and he does not seem like a very likeable character/a role model.
Like I said I have only just started looking into NLP but these are some of the first facts that I have come across.
Wow, nice to see you're open minded about the possibilities of different therapies helping different people and the public being allowed to choose for themselves.
gee maxxsee, that really helps! thanks for explaining. now, because of your deep and insightful words of wisdom i have pulled myself out of the morrass of my wicked heart and bad attitude. thanks to you, i can see the light. i was lost but now i'm found. your hope has inspire my hope. thanks for caring so much about me. truly, you are a being of peace and light who is destined to bring enlightened change to the masses thru nlp. you go!!
Gestalt doesn't have to be done in this surly 1970s way. You can retain the present-moment focus and the emphasis on blocked process, but with explicit empathy instead of the icky I'm-Mr.-Gestalt-therapist-who won't-let-you-get-away-with-your-bullshit tone seen here.
well, my therapist never asked me about my anger and what i feel NOW.but i´ll quiet my therapy and try to find another therpist which is probably better for me.besides, it makes me really angry that i need to waste time to find the right ONE before i can start to learn how to deal with my fears.
Time pursuing self help, no matter how 'fruitless' is never wasted...it's all part of the journey, a 'learning curve' if you like. Don't give up mate!
How could this be 'Bully therapy'? What do you suggest...that we suppress our negative feelings and reach out for a crutch? This approach involves experiencing our emotions so as to process them 'naturally'. Challenging? Yes, I'm afraid so...
Where can I make friends who know psychology well OR where can I study psychology by myself to help others? :)
LugiaLightning 1 week ago
thank you, I thought this was a great example for people who are learning about counseling techniques
katedancey 5 months ago
Hi Mate, the other day I was looking through the bedroom window when I noticed that the young lady who lives next door was sunbathing NAKED!!!. My natural reaction to this was to remove my penis and begin to masterbate. When I turned around I my wife was stood there with her arms folded.
Do you think my wife is a pervert?
prectec 5 months ago
The opening con is "I just ... " discounting herself, discounting how she feels, discounts the problem, also shows low self-esteem in that she doesn't feel important enough to talk about herself or her problems. Contract could be for her to decide she is important enough to have her needs, and them move onto contracting around how she meets them. :o) it's no wonder she frustrates herself!
pigtigg 9 months ago
Why would this be 'complete quackery'! Maybe the client finds it too confrontational to express how she feels to Jeff. The main point of a counselling session is that a client is able to feel safe enough to truly express what is going on for them in their lives.
candjim 10 months ago
complete quackery, why would she just not say that stuff to jeff in real life
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Hm! I had never heard of this and so learned something today. Very interesting! Thank you for posting the video.
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jacobsmorrison 1 year ago
This is terrible therapy and doesn't represent Gestalt therapy. The therapist here is submissive and dull-minded, he recites Gestalt literature, he's not actually in touch with his patient. He doesn't make contact.
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xxmike805xx 1 year ago
"who do you feel angry at" he is presuming that her anger is directed towards a person......if it isn't, she is less likely to say "nobody" and more likely to start searching for a person to blame.....and there may not really be one.....and all this time we are concerning ourselves with the counsellors ideas instead of hers
ppauly 1 year ago
1:15 she may not be experiencing it in her body. the counsellor suggested it to her because thats how HE experiences frustration. how could he know how anyone else really percieves reality, however, she went along with it and started considering her physical feelings. she is now carrying part of the counsellors perceptions while she explains.......so we are no longer talking about her authentic feelings.
ppauly 1 year ago
what a crock of shit! you poor fools pay for this shit! haha
dopamine333 1 year ago
Does it requires some certification to conduct gestalt or other therapy?? is their legal or illegal on practicing this?? plsss answer me!!!!
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lilababy76 1 year ago
@killlerzoo gestalt and similar therapies require extended training and it is illegal to practice them without the necessary qualifications. You need a degree in psychology or some other health related profession like psychiatry, nursing etc. You carry on with specialised training in a specific psychotherapeutic approach. In the States you will need a doctoral degree. In Europe you will need a Masters in (clinical)psychology and further practical training (3-4yrs). hope this helps:D
lilababy76 1 year ago
hmhat jemand lust zu schreibn oder pic tausch mir ist soo langweilig
GageGAlleny 1 year ago
yeah he does semm good ideed heh
RachealNKelly 1 year ago
Lo peor que ví en los últimos tiempos, éste tipo está más frustrado y nervioso qué el paciente, Getalt: "trucho"
uitvinder53 2 years ago
This guy is analysing her anger to the point of confusing her. instead of listening, reflecting he's re-framing without first addressing the source of anger, skipping from 'I' statements to 'how' without prompting the 'why'....
MrAshleyBell 2 years ago
Gestalt avoids the "why" and interprets the "how". "Why" leads to analysis, misinterpretations and blame
drkthndr 2 years ago 3
@MrAshleyBell: A gestalt therapist never would or will analyse! He listens well and he reframes for making the client aware of what the client says and feels. There is also no ultimate need to address the anger, because it is anxiety wich lies under the anger. And finally: a gestalt therapist NEVER asks "why". "Why" leads back to thoughts. Takes apart from feeling.
Bob, almost complete gestalt therapist
bobthemage 1 year ago
But globalmarkets you must know that as any other gestalt techniques if you aply this on yourself the effect is none...You need a therapist to do this a the technique needs to be adapted accordingly to the client
wolfeyex 2 years ago
Wolfeyex I think you misunderstood globalmarkets' comment. I don't think that he is suggesting to go through the therapy sessions with no therapist, only the final technique used by the therapist where Sandra is asked by the therapist to speak to Jeff, her ex husband, - personified by an empty chair.
From my understanding globalmarkets is wondering if having a picture of Jeff for Sandra to talk to would make the technique more effective.
femtex3 2 years ago
Would it help if you have the persons picture instead of just an empty chair?
globalmarkets 2 years ago
it could help, but the process of the empty chair is to get out their unfinished "gestalt". The next step would be to have her switch seats and be her husband to respond to what she just said, so the chair is necessary
drkthndr 2 years ago
That was great how she opened up more and more, from frustration to anger to ex-husband. The empty-chair technique was ace!
crazypianolady 2 years ago
she has a "tight" feeling.
mudslingerO5 2 years ago
I really enjoyed this session and agree with most of the other comments about the therapist. He seems so relaxed that it allows the client to open herself up and express herself to him. VERY NICE! :-)
adielrocks 2 years ago
GYSTCONSULTING, what do you think about using machinima films of therapy examples as training tools?
filmmaniadotbiz 2 years ago
people DANCE for pete sakes...!
TECHNOSHAMANPERU 3 years ago
The therapist seems really good.
lemonadesoul 3 years ago
Yes, he does seem quite good, lemonsoul; unlike my psychiatrist.
After twelve years of therapy my shrink said something that brought tears to my eyes.....
.....He said, "No hablo ingles."
logansGT 2 years ago 30
@logansGT
lol
LittleEmoBoy001 1 year ago
@logansGT Even though your post was written a year ago, maybe this is still helpful: Find a Hypnotherapist and be happy. If you've visited a psychiatrist for 12 years and still feel the problem isn't solved yet, I belief it is time to find someone else. After all, what do you've got to lose? All the best to you
Breakdown0 1 year ago
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@Breakdown0 - Gee.....thank you for your concern, Breaky, but your advice comes a little too late.
I took my own life last year, after 12 years of therapy, when I found out that my psychotherapist didn't speak English.
It pushed me over the edge when he said, "No hablo Ingles." He actually WAS a psycho therapist!
Btw, it's not easy typing this with an astral body.
logansGT 1 year ago
@logansGT yeah the thing is i just cant seem to remember where you got that one from..heh
wreyoG 8 months ago
@wreyoG I feel your pain, bro.....having Alzheimers is a definite downer :o(
logansGT 8 months ago
@logansGT yeah and i love it when the other loves the have the last word.
wreyoG 8 months ago
@wreyoG I agree.....I also don't like people who always have to have the last word >>> word
logansGT 8 months ago
@wreyoG Lol.....I think Logan may have gotten the last word, dude. Unless you're going to be childish again and go for the 'last word'
jamieblond1 8 months ago
@jamieblond1 oh shit..there we go again...
wreyoG 8 months ago
blugaris: You're right, there are no miracle cures, however, a skilled therapist skillfully applying a theapeutic model can do a lot of good. NLP, Gestalt, PCT and CBT (and others)have all been shown beneficial, however, at the end of the day it comes down to WHO the therapist IS, and the nature of the relationship between client and therapist.
GYSTCONSULTING 3 years ago 3
This is garbage. This idiotic "therapist" asks his patient how being frustrated feels for her. It's the result of an outfome worse than expected, in english. how does it feel? Of course she feels tight. It's a sympathetic response. lmao idiots
Zeldovich 3 years ago
he has to ask her what frustration is for her because he shouldn't be guessing how she feels. Frustration could mean a lot of different feelings for a lot of different people. When the definition is clarified by the client then it can be properly addresses
snarby21 2 years ago 2
what you fail to see is, why is her sympathetic nervous system responding to something that is not here and now sir?
absba9 2 years ago
Actually, she's dealing with circumstances that are very "here and now" for her.
PersephonePsyche 2 years ago
Why is this space an argument about whether NLP or Gestalt therapies work better? This is a video about Gestalt therapy. Yes, NLP was founded on Gestalt principles, but who is to say what works better? But, as long as we're on that subject, Maxxsee, psychotherapy outcome research suggests that it is similarity between therapist and client in their preference of modality that is the most important tool, (not excluding the client's own capacity to heal).
Dr. H.S. (therapist).
litgirl24 3 years ago
hahaah. you believe that this works its up to you and your costumers. I rely on what I've seen for myself and others. if anyone who want to get better quickly use NLP since it can make you FEEL DIFFERENT about your past instead of just RELIVING it, which only makes bad feelings stronger. I believe in meditaion too btw, its been around for centuries, and its effects can be measured in the brain, just like the effects of NLP can mrs Therapist ;)
maxxsee 3 years ago
sissoko11 wrote:
great way to make money if your practicing. but if your the one who needs help this stuff is a waste of time. go learn about NLP.
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Indeed. I believe the gestalt therapists intentions are all good. If you rehearse bad feelings the will get stronger! It has been proven. Gestalt therapy rehearses it. You don't want to rehearse bad feelings EVER. Learn NLP its the one thing that can give you true control and freedom. Richard Bandler has some new cool books out, check out amazon
maxxsee 3 years ago
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Gestalt and such techniques has been prooven to increase the negative feelings (if you use it to get rid of anger, frustration etc) since the mind rehearses the feelings. if you want to feel good and such NLP is the only logical choice or some meditation etc
maxxsee 3 years ago
NLP is a bunch of new aged hogwash, there are no miracle cures. How come you have to post so many times, maxxsee?
blugularis 3 years ago
you are a bunch of new aged hogwash. NLP has changed my life and it works excelent. Did you try once exercise once and make up your mind?
maxxsee 3 years ago
How perfectly ironic that you say that Gestalt is "new aged hogwash" when NLP is touted by most psychologists as being new-aged, and scientifically unfounded. NLP was created from Gestalt therapy. Those are its origins.
What works for you may not work for others. Why the criticisms?
litgirl24 3 years ago
Whats NLP? Is it the same as gstaldt?
valerieis49 3 years ago
its a mothodology, attitude and a set of techniques to change behaviour and design your way of percieving and moving through the world to make you feel better and enjoy life more
maxxsee 3 years ago
Maybe for you there are no miracle cures. Please do not make statements on the half of other human beings.
jensbond1978 3 years ago 2
Nicely put, jensbond.
Stravinski59 3 years ago
Un saludo a Yaro Starak desde Lima-Perú.
atte
Giancarlo Cordiglia
Director Gestalt Grupo Perú
arcanicidio 3 years ago
my sister said 'the gestalt os killing me' in a text i have no idea what it means and im worried could someone please explain it to me
Deeeeeeeeeeh 3 years ago
you people are ridiculous... this is actually a great example of Gestalt Therapy... anyone who says it isn't obviously knows nothing about it... it completely embodies what Gestalt is.
traciabrooke 3 years ago 12
@traciabrooke I'm a Gestalt therapist, and maybe to set the record straight, I think that this is what a second or third year student of Gestalt therapy would act like - it is not the way a fully trained Gestalt Therapist would act like. As a post below says, he is not in contact with his client. He fails to be fully in the "Here And Now" with the client, and that's the primary duty of a Gestalt Therapist.
bbtherapist 11 months ago
@bbtherapist Very interesting.
LugiaLightning 1 week ago
"it's in my head"
ePhilosopher 3 years ago
Is this for REAL ?? i mean, does the girl not feel uncomfortable/embarrassed about being treated for a sensitive issue whilst being FILMED ??
monsterjazzlicks 3 years ago
I have been a client Gestalt and i'm a huge fan of it.
But this is a terrible example of gestalt.
This would make me not want to investigate GT if i saw this.
epenmedi 4 years ago
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great way to make money if your practicing. but if your the one who needs help this stuff is a waste of time. go learn about NLP.
sissoko11 4 years ago
NLP?
I am trying to get help with serious complex issues. I am an inventor and am dealing with issues larger then just anxiety, depression , ect, I would like to know what you are talking about.
Way too many all about money.
bryceronie 4 years ago
try searching google/torrent sites for "richard bandler how to live a happy life" or anyone of his other videos. Im not sure what you mean by issues greater than depression. Are you schizophrenic? if so, your still in for quite a treat.
sissoko11 4 years ago
I am disapointed about a lot of things, and has led me into depression. Many my fault, some are not.
Richard has been accused of murder, was a coke addict for years, has been divorced, has been declared bankrupt twice (once when he was 50!), is obese!! And, I saw a video of one of his seminars and he does not seem like a very likeable character/a role model.
Like I said I have only just started looking into NLP but these are some of the first facts that I have come across.
bryceronie 4 years ago
Wow, nice to see you're open minded about the possibilities of different therapies helping different people and the public being allowed to choose for themselves.
easyworldjo 4 years ago
wow, if such closed-mindedness is the kind of result i can expect from NLP i think i'll pass
joshuaocean7 3 years ago
this comment of course was in response to sissoko11 (below)
joshuaocean7 3 years ago
NLP works but not with your attitude. with your attitude nothing will work. I can only hope you will change it
maxxsee 3 years ago
gee maxxsee, that really helps! thanks for explaining. now, because of your deep and insightful words of wisdom i have pulled myself out of the morrass of my wicked heart and bad attitude. thanks to you, i can see the light. i was lost but now i'm found. your hope has inspire my hope. thanks for caring so much about me. truly, you are a being of peace and light who is destined to bring enlightened change to the masses thru nlp. you go!!
joshuaocean7 3 years ago 3
awkward
moneymasterjet 4 years ago
This is simular to Focusing oriented Therapy, accept that Focusing oriented is less confrontational, and more experiential ! And it works !
ironjohnlad 4 years ago
this is a poor example of empty chair. you wont learn anything about Gestal therapy with this clip.
cozarcade 4 years ago
Gestalt doesn't have to be done in this surly 1970s way. You can retain the present-moment focus and the emphasis on blocked process, but with explicit empathy instead of the icky I'm-Mr.-Gestalt-therapist-who won't-let-you-get-away-with-your-bullshit tone seen here.
wesleyan97 4 years ago
well, my therapist never asked me about my anger and what i feel NOW.but i´ll quiet my therapy and try to find another therpist which is probably better for me.besides, it makes me really angry that i need to waste time to find the right ONE before i can start to learn how to deal with my fears.
xForeverMinex 4 years ago
Time pursuing self help, no matter how 'fruitless' is never wasted...it's all part of the journey, a 'learning curve' if you like. Don't give up mate!
whirlpoolzend 4 years ago
How could this be 'Bully therapy'? What do you suggest...that we suppress our negative feelings and reach out for a crutch? This approach involves experiencing our emotions so as to process them 'naturally'. Challenging? Yes, I'm afraid so...
whirlpoolzend 4 years ago 2
New Zealand accent? it's sweet. So I'm guessing this was an example of catharsis (getting it off her chest)
sleepyeyeguy 4 years ago
bully therapy
oglaigh82 4 years ago
he's obviousely very good
stealthdiesel 4 years ago