Why do you not teach history correctly? Why do you allow war criminals to be honoured? Why do you not pay reparations to those tortured or injured or comfort women?
Until you admit and act correctly you will still be seen as a nation of liars cheats and sadists many of whom with psycho sexual disorders.This generation should do the purging.This is how history will remember Japan-the land with tarnished sun!
@SuperSpuddie I am neither Japanese, nor a history teacher. However, imho, many Japanese, including the current prime minister, do not think that those classed as war criminals by the Tokyo tribunals were really criminals, but merely loosers in a war. The Indian judge at the tribunals is often quoted. Many Japanese believe that the vast majority of comfort women were prostitutes.
What is "correct"? You seem to jump from one issue to another, assuming that the Japanese are wrong on all counts.
A place where many sub humans are buried.Remember the enjoyment on the faces of the sub humans in places like Nanking.This place should be used as atoil;et for the world.and they have never compensated or properly apologised for their sub species behaviour
Japan gave a lot of, some might say massive amounts of, overseas development aid to China and I think that this was seen as partly as a reparation at least in Japan. There have been apologies, but the Japanese are not particularly into going over the past, and they do not demand apologies from others, from the Americans for bombing Nagasaki four days after Hiroshima for instance. When they remember the war, here and Hiroshima, they remember the suffering, not attempting to blame.
Japan gave a lot of, some might say massive amounts of, overseas development aid to China and I think that this was seen as partly as a reparation at least in Japan. There have been apologies, but the Japanese are not particularly into going over the past, and they do not demand apologies from others, from the Americans for bombing Nagasaki four days after Hiroshima for instance. When they remember the war, here and Hiroshima, they remember the suffering, not attempting to blame
I am not very proud of this video. I felt that I should have respect the people there more. Is that the way you think my attitude stinks? How do you feel my attitude stinks?
You said that I should not have made subjective comments, but saying that the memorial, to Japanese war criminals, is "controversial" does not seem to be subjective, rather statement of objective fact. So I remain confused. There those, especially many in Japan, who believe that the war trials were "victors justice," berating their heroes. There are also people especially in Asia, who feel that the accused were vile criminals. Rewatching I am not sure where my subjectivity comes in.
I do happen to feel considerable sympathy to the Japanese view (that the "criminals" were not all that criminal, or no more so thatn soldiers on the other sides), and perhaps that my subjective opinion showed? Maybe. I have met Chinese people who consider debate on the criminality of Japanese war crime to be almost criminal, likening it to Holocaust revisionism, which is outlawed in France and Germany I believe.
@moosey62 Okay, what I think stinks about my attitude, is my lack of a subective take, or my subjective *dilettantism*. In the video I am excited by the controversy. Here was a ceremony, and in particular a memorial, that many would consider to be like a memorial to Nazis. And it was wild, stimuating, from my positionless-position. I would like to take my intellectual position in favour of the memorial. But instead, I stood on the fence, and this dilettantism is also subjective. That stank?
They were soldiers who followed orders hence this shrine and american vietnam war memorial are exactly the same. The kids of middle and lower class of a society usually turn into army and get sacrificed with mass political mistakes like war.
There is a god of the fight also in Shintoism of Japan as in a German myth, there is Wotan. Wotan won't refuse any kind of brave man who cruelly killed Romans. The Christianity person destroys all such ancient religions, and has slaughtered uncivilized people. Shintoism is a harmless religion that did not persecute other religious people for the past 2000 years. There is no hypocrisy like the Christianity in Shintoism. You have freedom not to go to the Shinto shrine, if you don't like it.
Susa-no-O-no-Mikoto and Yamatotakeru for instance. I'm not sure if have has anything against "cruel killing". Yamato Takeru cross-dressed to surprise his enemies who killed, the last after a chase, spikin him in the behind and splitting him apart like a melon.
The Japanese attempted to invade South Korea in the 16th century, and did so under the banner of the spirits.
Hideyoshi's Korea invasion didn't have a relation to Shintoism. The 16th century Japan became the world's largest gun manufacture. Such military power usually has the ambition to the territorial aggrandizement. However, Samurai finally thought the change to the West to be a moral degeneration. So, Samurai selected not military expansion but disarmament. As a result, Japan of the 17th and 18th century became a self sufficient ecology country. It is related to Shintoism (harmony with the nature).
Hmmm, timtak1, I subscribe to your channel and I must say that I cannot agree that your implied stance that Shinto, like Christian violence throughout history, is directly related to the reason why Korea was invaded, because Christian violence had Crusades and many like which thereafter. The only time Shintoism was THE reason to assault on another persons rights was probably in the 40's when Occupied peoples were forced to go to Shinto Shrines. No idea why, but they were made to pray & they did
So, you saying that Shinto is less violent than Christianity? That Christianity has been linked with violence over a long period of its history (the crusades, empire building, Iraq?) whereas Shinto has only been linked with violence on one occassion, and then it was as a strange-version-of-Shinto (State Shinto)?
I don't really disagree with lotusesprit3 or you in this regard, and prefer Shinto for this reason amoung others but...I don't think that "real" Shinto is entirely non statist.
To a large extent I agree with Lotusesprit3 below when he says that State Shintoism is not really Shintoism but a rehash of Shintoism plus an immitation of British Christianity.
However, as I also say below, there are a lot of Shinto folk now (still brainwashed by "State Shinto"?) that claim that Shinto and the Japanese state are linked, at least in so far as Shinto includes ancestor "worship" (I prefer "reverence").
I like the idea of a "genuine" "polytheistic" nature worshipping Shinto
But these days, I think that "genuine" Shinto is a bit a of a pipedream alas (in a sense: it is difficult to say "alas" about reality), and that Shinto has always been a nature-and-ancestor revering religion, and the ancestors that Shinto reveres are naturally (?) Japanese.
A peaceful, globalizable, universal Shinto is possible, I like to think. Perhaps Shinto is a bit like Judaism? Perhaps it needs a Shinto-Jesus to come along and say anyone, even non-Japanese, can be a child of the kami.
It is hard to classify such a large amount of people involved in religion throughout history into one group...but overall, I think I'm comfortable to say 'yes', Shinto is a peaceful religion wars occurred around it, but not "for or by Shintoism sake". I can only recall the initial counter-Buddhist struggle (which ended as co-existence) and late parts of WWII as any occasion where SHINTOISM could be rooted to as the CAUSE of any violent/discriminary action. State Shintoism is a evolved...alt.stem
Well, once again that is hard for me to generalize such large movement as one, and I admit I am also not the most knowledgeable about Christianity. But that being said, based on what I know, I tend to get the impression that many people supported the idea of the Crusades and many more do, to this day. There is definitely a sense of CHR vs ISLAM in this world still. So does that make it a main branch? I dont know. But pretty close, i would presume
Genuine Shintoism is polytheism. So, the state Shintoism made by the nation(Absolute obedience to emperor) is not pure Shintoism. The state Shintoism is monotheism .The first Prime Minister in Japan made it by researching the Christianity of Britain of the colonial epoch. It was necessary to strengthen the brainwash to the people by the state Shintoism to live through the law of the jungle at the colonial epoch. However, the state Shintoism is dismantled with the defeat, and it is harmless now.
From the 16th century to the end of 19th century,The Japanese experienced the pacific era by isolation. The Japanese experienced the world where the wartime economy was completely excluded from the society for hundreds of years. After 1945, the Japanese is experiencing the peaceful age again. However, the Anglo-Saxon country has been ruled by the wartime economy for the past hundreds of years. They cannot live without the war. That is more serious than the Shinto shrine.
As I often tell people myself, but some Shrine priests swear blind that I am wrong. In their defense I would point out that since Taika no Kaishin or even in the mythology, politics and the Emperors have been involved in Shinto. These days I think that Shinto has that which you call a monotheistic aspect.
Your fears seem to me to be unreal. The people of Japan are no longer an exclusive society of believers in a 'holy' emperor. Japan is one of the most welcoming countries in the world, and if the government hopes to delude its people into believing false information, that welcome, together with the current freedom odf expression, will have to be seriously diminished.
Was it not 'Revenge' a sentiment that had enormous strength at that time, that brought A-Bombs to fall on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? To drop them perhaps where they might be 'seen' as threats - more clearly to the people of Japan, in the sea, nearby, might have saved so much suffering? - So many Japanese people, including children the same age as I was, old people - their grandparents like my own, dying in ways that make those you have listed, seem almost benign.
In retrospect - you - with whatever evidence you find - make choices and find preferences that will support your own sympathies. Just as Japanese people must.
I do not hope to change your mind, but knowing many Japanese people - and recognising the same longing for 'truth' in their minds, as you express - I am less aggressively accusatory, less inclined to blame - since blame achieves so little.
Only protecting their country? Mass killings ?, Human biological warfare experimentation ?, Use of chemical weapons ?, forced famine ?, Torture and the highest killing rates of POWs in world history ?, Cannibalism ?!, Forced labor ?,The Comfort women ?, massive Looting ? And those Japanese were only protecting their country ? For jeannette-Its not hard to pick out the "bad" people if you examine the truth. The J-govt will do everything possible to prevent the true facts from being examined.
I understand your passion, and pain, Melissasfather, Like millions of people, I still feel echoes of the horrors of that war - although I was a tiny child, in London, at the time. To measure which 'nation' or which individuals are most guilty of the worst crimes, however - seems to me to be contextual and contexts are multiple and variable.
Part2 Its only a shrine to continue the defiant spread-of-the-japanese-empire attitude. And steer young japanese toward the hard-right-wing Nationalists views. Japan is as defiant today against the whole world,as it was in the 1930s and early 40s. Though much more hypocritical now. They like to just say one thing and do the exact opposite, this is a common political tactic, but nowhere on our planet is it more obviously flat out lies and deception than japan.
Part-1 Controversial for YOU because you will be restricted from speaking out openly in Japan. Please go to Japan_War_Crimes on wikipedia. The J-Govt has falsified so much with regard to the atrocities commited under the guise of "it was during the war" They continue to sanitize everything in the media, destroy evidence, revise textbooks for schoolchildren with falsehoods, etc etc.The Japanese were far worse than the Nazi's in their atrocities...facts are facts.
I think that the "YOU" that you refer to is me? I don't feel too restricted. Hmm...not entirely free either.
I have a book by Ward Churchill about the treatment of the first people's of the USA.
In the aftermarth of the destruction of the world trade centre he lost his job because, it seems to me, he was critical of the US. He scholarship may not have been spot on, but because of his critical stance he was was placed under a special scrutiny.
Several years before 9/11 I wrote to Ward Churchill because I was interested in this issue: is it more dangerous to be self-critical in Japan than the US. He emailed me back saying he recieves death threats. He has yet to be shot, unlike the major who accused/slandered the Emperor of Japan.
Personally I believe that there is a good chance that British we far worse that the Germans in our atrocities. We (Brits) had a longer go at it.
I dont think it makes sense to measure 'nationality' against 'nationality' as you do here Timtak. There are many recorded incidents of genocide, carried out by different groups of people 'within' different nations - and it is ideas and ideals that each group represents, not nationalities, that result in atrocities. The fire bombings of Dresden and Hamburg are still among the most ethically questionable acts, of WW2, and might perhaps, be measured against the atrocities of the holocaust.
Its too hard to pick out 'good' and 'bad' people in times like those. It was certainly expedient to attempt to do so. Looking at international 'motives' - might be judged more easily, but I suspect each person probably believed, or at least prayed or hoped, that what he did was perfectly right, at the time, and somebody, doubtless, loved each one of them.
The picture quality looks great, nice steady filming too. What is your personal position on what is written on the stone? I will understand if you prefer not to say.
Er...I am not sure. For my own part I can understand and empathise with the inscription.
I do think that the tribunal was "victors justice" and not very legal. As a Briton I might say I am sorry but, historically I guess that victors generally kill a few of the loosers. I am not sure if it is better or worse that we made a (mock?) trial out of it.
At the same time I can sympathise with Chinese and Koreans who would prefer that Japan were less inclided to revere "criminals"
Why do you not teach history correctly? Why do you allow war criminals to be honoured? Why do you not pay reparations to those tortured or injured or comfort women?
Until you admit and act correctly you will still be seen as a nation of liars cheats and sadists many of whom with psycho sexual disorders.This generation should do the purging.This is how history will remember Japan-the land with tarnished sun!
SuperSpuddie 5 months ago
@SuperSpuddie I am neither Japanese, nor a history teacher. However, imho, many Japanese, including the current prime minister, do not think that those classed as war criminals by the Tokyo tribunals were really criminals, but merely loosers in a war. The Indian judge at the tribunals is often quoted. Many Japanese believe that the vast majority of comfort women were prostitutes.
What is "correct"? You seem to jump from one issue to another, assuming that the Japanese are wrong on all counts.
timtak1 5 months ago
@SuperSpuddie
I am from the UK like you. Do they now teach the worldview that you espouse in UK education?
timtak1 5 months ago
A place where many sub humans are buried.Remember the enjoyment on the faces of the sub humans in places like Nanking.This place should be used as atoil;et for the world.and they have never compensated or properly apologised for their sub species behaviour
SuperSpuddie 5 months ago
@SuperSpuddie
Japan gave a lot of, some might say massive amounts of, overseas development aid to China and I think that this was seen as partly as a reparation at least in Japan. There have been apologies, but the Japanese are not particularly into going over the past, and they do not demand apologies from others, from the Americans for bombing Nagasaki four days after Hiroshima for instance. When they remember the war, here and Hiroshima, they remember the suffering, not attempting to blame.
timtak1 5 months ago
@SuperSpuddie
Japan gave a lot of, some might say massive amounts of, overseas development aid to China and I think that this was seen as partly as a reparation at least in Japan. There have been apologies, but the Japanese are not particularly into going over the past, and they do not demand apologies from others, from the Americans for bombing Nagasaki four days after Hiroshima for instance. When they remember the war, here and Hiroshima, they remember the suffering, not attempting to blame
timtak1 5 months ago
Could've done without the "perhaps the most controversial" subjective comments.
If you're going to do this, report the facts.
In fact, I'd like to say, fuck you. Your attitude stinks, frankly.
moosey62 1 year ago
@moosey62
I am not very proud of this video. I felt that I should have respect the people there more. Is that the way you think my attitude stinks? How do you feel my attitude stinks?
timtak1 1 year ago
@moosey62
You said that I should not have made subjective comments, but saying that the memorial, to Japanese war criminals, is "controversial" does not seem to be subjective, rather statement of objective fact. So I remain confused. There those, especially many in Japan, who believe that the war trials were "victors justice," berating their heroes. There are also people especially in Asia, who feel that the accused were vile criminals. Rewatching I am not sure where my subjectivity comes in.
timtak1 1 year ago
@moosey62
I do happen to feel considerable sympathy to the Japanese view (that the "criminals" were not all that criminal, or no more so thatn soldiers on the other sides), and perhaps that my subjective opinion showed? Maybe. I have met Chinese people who consider debate on the criminality of Japanese war crime to be almost criminal, likening it to Holocaust revisionism, which is outlawed in France and Germany I believe.
timtak1 1 year ago
@moosey62 Okay, what I think stinks about my attitude, is my lack of a subective take, or my subjective *dilettantism*. In the video I am excited by the controversy. Here was a ceremony, and in particular a memorial, that many would consider to be like a memorial to Nazis. And it was wild, stimuating, from my positionless-position. I would like to take my intellectual position in favour of the memorial. But instead, I stood on the fence, and this dilettantism is also subjective. That stank?
timtak1 1 year ago
They were soldiers who followed orders hence this shrine and american vietnam war memorial are exactly the same. The kids of middle and lower class of a society usually turn into army and get sacrificed with mass political mistakes like war.
videouzleg 2 years ago
@videouzleg
I would agree.
timtak1 1 year ago
There is a god of the fight also in Shintoism of Japan as in a German myth, there is Wotan. Wotan won't refuse any kind of brave man who cruelly killed Romans. The Christianity person destroys all such ancient religions, and has slaughtered uncivilized people. Shintoism is a harmless religion that did not persecute other religious people for the past 2000 years. There is no hypocrisy like the Christianity in Shintoism. You have freedom not to go to the Shinto shrine, if you don't like it.
lotusesprits3 3 years ago
Susa-no-O-no-Mikoto and Yamatotakeru for instance. I'm not sure if have has anything against "cruel killing". Yamato Takeru cross-dressed to surprise his enemies who killed, the last after a chase, spikin him in the behind and splitting him apart like a melon.
The Japanese attempted to invade South Korea in the 16th century, and did so under the banner of the spirits.
I like Shinto, and go to shrines often.
translator300 3 years ago
Hideyoshi's Korea invasion didn't have a relation to Shintoism. The 16th century Japan became the world's largest gun manufacture. Such military power usually has the ambition to the territorial aggrandizement. However, Samurai finally thought the change to the West to be a moral degeneration. So, Samurai selected not military expansion but disarmament. As a result, Japan of the 17th and 18th century became a self sufficient ecology country. It is related to Shintoism (harmony with the nature).
lotusesprits3 3 years ago
"Didn't have a relation to Shintoism." Just as Christianity has nothing to do with "Anglo Saxon wartime economy"?
timtak1 3 years ago
Hmmm, timtak1, I subscribe to your channel and I must say that I cannot agree that your implied stance that Shinto, like Christian violence throughout history, is directly related to the reason why Korea was invaded, because Christian violence had Crusades and many like which thereafter. The only time Shintoism was THE reason to assault on another persons rights was probably in the 40's when Occupied peoples were forced to go to Shinto Shrines. No idea why, but they were made to pray & they did
sidjtd 2 years ago
So, you saying that Shinto is less violent than Christianity? That Christianity has been linked with violence over a long period of its history (the crusades, empire building, Iraq?) whereas Shinto has only been linked with violence on one occassion, and then it was as a strange-version-of-Shinto (State Shinto)?
I don't really disagree with lotusesprit3 or you in this regard, and prefer Shinto for this reason amoung others but...I don't think that "real" Shinto is entirely non statist.
timtak1 2 years ago
To a large extent I agree with Lotusesprit3 below when he says that State Shintoism is not really Shintoism but a rehash of Shintoism plus an immitation of British Christianity.
However, as I also say below, there are a lot of Shinto folk now (still brainwashed by "State Shinto"?) that claim that Shinto and the Japanese state are linked, at least in so far as Shinto includes ancestor "worship" (I prefer "reverence").
I like the idea of a "genuine" "polytheistic" nature worshipping Shinto
timtak1 2 years ago
But these days, I think that "genuine" Shinto is a bit a of a pipedream alas (in a sense: it is difficult to say "alas" about reality), and that Shinto has always been a nature-and-ancestor revering religion, and the ancestors that Shinto reveres are naturally (?) Japanese.
A peaceful, globalizable, universal Shinto is possible, I like to think. Perhaps Shinto is a bit like Judaism? Perhaps it needs a Shinto-Jesus to come along and say anyone, even non-Japanese, can be a child of the kami.
timtak1 2 years ago
It is hard to classify such a large amount of people involved in religion throughout history into one group...but overall, I think I'm comfortable to say 'yes', Shinto is a peaceful religion wars occurred around it, but not "for or by Shintoism sake". I can only recall the initial counter-Buddhist struggle (which ended as co-existence) and late parts of WWII as any occasion where SHINTOISM could be rooted to as the CAUSE of any violent/discriminary action. State Shintoism is a evolved...alt.stem
sidjtd 2 years ago
Is the violent part of Christianity an alt.stem or the main stem?
timtak1 2 years ago
Well, once again that is hard for me to generalize such large movement as one, and I admit I am also not the most knowledgeable about Christianity. But that being said, based on what I know, I tend to get the impression that many people supported the idea of the Crusades and many more do, to this day. There is definitely a sense of CHR vs ISLAM in this world still. So does that make it a main branch? I dont know. But pretty close, i would presume
sidjtd 2 years ago
Genuine Shintoism is polytheism. So, the state Shintoism made by the nation(Absolute obedience to emperor) is not pure Shintoism. The state Shintoism is monotheism .The first Prime Minister in Japan made it by researching the Christianity of Britain of the colonial epoch. It was necessary to strengthen the brainwash to the people by the state Shintoism to live through the law of the jungle at the colonial epoch. However, the state Shintoism is dismantled with the defeat, and it is harmless now.
lotusesprits3 3 years ago
From the 16th century to the end of 19th century,The Japanese experienced the pacific era by isolation. The Japanese experienced the world where the wartime economy was completely excluded from the society for hundreds of years. After 1945, the Japanese is experiencing the peaceful age again. However, the Anglo-Saxon country has been ruled by the wartime economy for the past hundreds of years. They cannot live without the war. That is more serious than the Shinto shrine.
lotusesprits3 3 years ago
And far worse too.
I drive a Subaru.
timtak1 3 years ago
As I often tell people myself, but some Shrine priests swear blind that I am wrong. In their defense I would point out that since Taika no Kaishin or even in the mythology, politics and the Emperors have been involved in Shinto. These days I think that Shinto has that which you call a monotheistic aspect.
timtak1 3 years ago
By the way, do you have a reference to this process? I would like to read about it. I read Japanese (though not Meiji Period Japanese).
timtak1 3 years ago
part 4
Your fears seem to me to be unreal. The people of Japan are no longer an exclusive society of believers in a 'holy' emperor. Japan is one of the most welcoming countries in the world, and if the government hopes to delude its people into believing false information, that welcome, together with the current freedom odf expression, will have to be seriously diminished.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
part 3
Was it not 'Revenge' a sentiment that had enormous strength at that time, that brought A-Bombs to fall on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? To drop them perhaps where they might be 'seen' as threats - more clearly to the people of Japan, in the sea, nearby, might have saved so much suffering? - So many Japanese people, including children the same age as I was, old people - their grandparents like my own, dying in ways that make those you have listed, seem almost benign.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
part 2
In retrospect - you - with whatever evidence you find - make choices and find preferences that will support your own sympathies. Just as Japanese people must.
I do not hope to change your mind, but knowing many Japanese people - and recognising the same longing for 'truth' in their minds, as you express - I am less aggressively accusatory, less inclined to blame - since blame achieves so little.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
Only protecting their country? Mass killings ?, Human biological warfare experimentation ?, Use of chemical weapons ?, forced famine ?, Torture and the highest killing rates of POWs in world history ?, Cannibalism ?!, Forced labor ?,The Comfort women ?, massive Looting ? And those Japanese were only protecting their country ? For jeannette-Its not hard to pick out the "bad" people if you examine the truth. The J-govt will do everything possible to prevent the true facts from being examined.
MelissasFather 3 years ago
part 1
I understand your passion, and pain, Melissasfather, Like millions of people, I still feel echoes of the horrors of that war - although I was a tiny child, in London, at the time. To measure which 'nation' or which individuals are most guilty of the worst crimes, however - seems to me to be contextual and contexts are multiple and variable.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
Part2 Its only a shrine to continue the defiant spread-of-the-japanese-empire attitude. And steer young japanese toward the hard-right-wing Nationalists views. Japan is as defiant today against the whole world,as it was in the 1930s and early 40s. Though much more hypocritical now. They like to just say one thing and do the exact opposite, this is a common political tactic, but nowhere on our planet is it more obviously flat out lies and deception than japan.
MelissasFather 3 years ago
Part-1 Controversial for YOU because you will be restricted from speaking out openly in Japan. Please go to Japan_War_Crimes on wikipedia. The J-Govt has falsified so much with regard to the atrocities commited under the guise of "it was during the war" They continue to sanitize everything in the media, destroy evidence, revise textbooks for schoolchildren with falsehoods, etc etc.The Japanese were far worse than the Nazi's in their atrocities...facts are facts.
MelissasFather 3 years ago
Part 1
I think that the "YOU" that you refer to is me? I don't feel too restricted. Hmm...not entirely free either.
I have a book by Ward Churchill about the treatment of the first people's of the USA.
In the aftermarth of the destruction of the world trade centre he lost his job because, it seems to me, he was critical of the US. He scholarship may not have been spot on, but because of his critical stance he was was placed under a special scrutiny.
timtak1 3 years ago
Part 2.
Several years before 9/11 I wrote to Ward Churchill because I was interested in this issue: is it more dangerous to be self-critical in Japan than the US. He emailed me back saying he recieves death threats. He has yet to be shot, unlike the major who accused/slandered the Emperor of Japan.
Personally I believe that there is a good chance that British we far worse that the Germans in our atrocities. We (Brits) had a longer go at it.
timtak1 3 years ago
I dont think it makes sense to measure 'nationality' against 'nationality' as you do here Timtak. There are many recorded incidents of genocide, carried out by different groups of people 'within' different nations - and it is ideas and ideals that each group represents, not nationalities, that result in atrocities. The fire bombings of Dresden and Hamburg are still among the most ethically questionable acts, of WW2, and might perhaps, be measured against the atrocities of the holocaust.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
Its too hard to pick out 'good' and 'bad' people in times like those. It was certainly expedient to attempt to do so. Looking at international 'motives' - might be judged more easily, but I suspect each person probably believed, or at least prayed or hoped, that what he did was perfectly right, at the time, and somebody, doubtless, loved each one of them.
Jeanetteleuers 3 years ago
The picture quality looks great, nice steady filming too. What is your personal position on what is written on the stone? I will understand if you prefer not to say.
Nozokimidayo 3 years ago
Er...I am not sure. For my own part I can understand and empathise with the inscription.
I do think that the tribunal was "victors justice" and not very legal. As a Briton I might say I am sorry but, historically I guess that victors generally kill a few of the loosers. I am not sure if it is better or worse that we made a (mock?) trial out of it.
At the same time I can sympathise with Chinese and Koreans who would prefer that Japan were less inclided to revere "criminals"
timtak1 3 years ago