A building battle in East Jerusalem - 23 Aug 07

[jigglyfidda125]

Long live Israel

palestinians can fuck off to Jordan

[rrraul21]

The moral of this story is: don't build without a damn permit!

[chillingcold]

@rrraul21

ya exactly,but they r not understanding.maybe lack of knownledge.hahahah

[chrisdef15]

@rrraul21

LOL ide like to see your opinion if you where trying to build on your own land but couldnt yet the jews next door could.

[rrraul21]

@chrisdef15 frankly I'd find someplace else, one of the many arab states perhaps.

[chrisdef15]

@rrraul21

Bullshit. Maybe your a little bitch but most people arent. I know in countries like the US and here in Aus we would never just go "ok fair enough you take my land ille go back to where all the other anglo's/caucasians are in Europe". And i dont expect many Palestinians would do that either.

[masterprogram]

@rrraul21 Maybe jews shouldnt take part of palestinian land

[Jesuslily]

One day the Jew and the Palestinian will embrace each other like brothers. That day is dawning.. palestinian and jewish friends... we are praying for the peace of all of you.

[coldbloodykiller5]

i hve a palestinan friend and i am jewish and part israeli but in some strange way i do support the settlement expansion

[Jesuslily]

wow what a name... hm.. why do you support the settlements my friend? dont you know that if you give your heart.. the enemy always looses because he cant stand the words of love.. so he is passified..

[coldbloodykiller5]

idk just i support them in a strange way

[chillingcold]

@coldbloodykiller5

just wait for that palestinin friend terrorist to bomb u,my friend

[nekng]

not sure how good the translation of the what the person is saying in Hebrew (0:39-0:51) is here

[nekng]

The term "Separation Wall" is not good word choice seeing as the "wall" is 93-98% chain link fence

[Reqrezentin]

A wall is a wall, if it separates something.

[08loudandclear]

I would hate to be a jew and wonder if they would kill me in the night

The hell with then

Kill Hammas problem gone

[zigmar7]

And those activist are disgusting as well. Just look at all cameras, stage and stuff. They don't really care about anything or anyone (organizers, the others are just brainless followers) and just using this issue to draw attention to themself and pass their political agenda. Look, there is more press and whitecollars than people who did came to work. And of course, no of them say anything when houses of non-arabs got demolished (and they do) for exactly the same reasons - just a plain law.

[RANDOMVIDE0]

0 Israeli Homes have been demolished

18,000 Palestinian..

Equality my ass.

[zigmar7]

Those numbers are bullshit. Israeli building built without permit are demolished all the time. Let alone the houses of 5000 people who was thrown out of their homes during disengagement plan. But illegal building of Jews are demolished just like the Palestinians, just there is no such fuss by "human rights" activists. Well, there is also, of course, the houses of suicide terrorists demolished, but I guess it is perfectly fine by everyone.

[zigmar7]

That's a pathetic bullshit about demographics and politics. I live in Tel-Aviv, and my landlord build additional floor without a permit. What do you think? After a month or so, the workers with police came, and _demolished_ this floor. My landlord is jew so the people living in the building in the heart of Tel-Aviv. Is it also demographics? Stop being ridiculous - the law is the same for all, and if you do something against law, be ready so suffer consequences.

[Glenbo71]

exactly- don't build there and then act stupid when you piss off a gov't that doesnt like or trust you.

[InvaderDemeter]

What about the houses that were already there before the Israeli government came into power? Those get destroyed too.

[Glenbo71]

The U.N (yes, the U.N.) needs to get a set of nuts and just say," It's obvious that that you guys hate each other and will not even recognize each other, so we decided to create a 5- mile 'no man's land" that will be guarded so much as NO HUMAN BEING can enter it." Both sides need to grow up .

[Glenbo71]

If it's ONE THING that we as human beings (except for those that believe matter can arise from nothing) can agree on is that some all-powerful/all knowing force beyong our comprehension is the absolute reason we are here. It truly boggles my mind. Religion is oppresive by it's very nature and is responsible for much of the madness that goes on in this world. Was religion really meant to cause so much sadness?

[hsd0006]

The Philistines shouldn't have been allowed to stay anyway, but the Israelites screwed up. So now, Israel has to learn to coexist with people that hate them.

[InvaderDemeter]

Who on earth said that the Palestinians should have been kicked out of their country? Reword that and make it have an iota of logic. The Israelis shouldn't have come onto other people's land in the first place.

[ezekial500]

The same commander also told Kol Ha'ir of instances of harassment and malicious damaging of property by Haredi Nahal soldiers at that time. Among other things, soldiers poured sand and sugar into the engines of Palestinian vehicles. This latter habit was put an end to after high-ranking officers in the Valley Command discovered it.

[NastyXOrco]

The only way Israel will truely make strides in making peace with the Palestinian would be to give back East Jerusalem and at least give them their borders of 67'.

[TrickShepherd]

The Palestinians would only be satisfied with the total elimination of Israel; take their word for it. Palestinians will tell you that '67 Israel wasn't nor isn't acceptable either.

[NastyXOrco]

I would agree that SOME!! Palestinians would in fact only be satisfied by the destruction of Israel, however I would think that it is only the extreme minority who would be so. Just as there are Israelis, (old school zionist) who believe Palistine shouldn't exist. The fact of the matter is both sides are going to sacrifice something, including Syria, to end the clash and and live together. They're so worried about living setprately when instead they should be thinking of how to live together.

[TrickShepherd]

I disagree. Pretty much all expect the total elimination of Isreal for a Palestine "from the river to the sea". If '67 borders were not acceptable in '67, why would the '67 border be acceptable now?

[NastyXOrco]

The Jerusalem Municipal rep, Mord, says the Arab population there "has increased over the last 40 years." What he fails to mention is there land has decreased in surface area and has slowly been annexed over the last 40 years. Why doesn't he mention that?

[johnu78]

I suggest that everyone should read "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy", by Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer. The report is an excellent expose about Jewish lobby groups and how those groups lobby the US government to support and fund Israeli interests.

[ollowert]

They sure like concrete over there. The homes must be very basic.

[brick4sale]

He's nuts don't bother with him.

[bbproductionsLA]

racism. tsk tsk

[monicasimpson]

Try building a house in any civilized country in the world without a permit and see what happens!

[brick4sale]

What crap, they bulldoze without regard, without compensation. Where as the settlers steal peoples houses, and land and Israel does nothing, unless under severe pressure.

[mrgrieves9876]

these homes were there before the creation of israel and they dont need permits if its on THEIR OWN LAND

[clang80]

He should have got a permit.

[jlm3456]

your assumption is that he can ACTUALLY get a permit

[clang80]

Fact is you need a permit. If you build without building Regulations on England they will pull it down. Just a fact of life, he shouldn't have built there without a permit. Not getting into any politics, its just a worldwide fact.

[jlm3456]

your point is moot. put it this way; this guy has as much a chance for getting a permit from the Israeli government as he does by asking for one from harry potter. get real.

[clang80]

Then don't build there.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

its not israeli jurisdiction to impose their permit restrictions on occupied territory

[OddLooking]

at least they didn't make him pay for the demolition and clean-up

in england they would send you a nice bill for this...

[NastyXOrco]

Well ok clang80, lets say you come back from a football game (soccer) and you find an Irish fellow bulldozen your house because you didn't have a permit to build. What would you do?

[nyrhex]

everyone can get a permit, depends on who is the person who gives you the permit, if you fall on a racist you gonna get the run around, if you fall on the avarage klerk you will get it as fast as anyone. and FYI, there are alot of ilegal settelements that get bulldozed if they dont have a permit. but just like with beduine or most Palestinians that build without a permit, they simply rebuild.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

the point is that israel has no right to be giving permits on land that is not part of its sovereign borders, let alone having the right to bulldoze outside of its legal borders.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

its also a well known fact that settlers are given much better treatment than average palestinians on a consistent basis. the two famalies of settlers who were recently evicted in hebron attacked and injured troops, but the settlers left in good health. if palestinians thrown rocks at armored vehicles, putting no risk on the troops, the occupiers will kill children. these are human rights violations that are allowed to increase because of US diplomatic support.

[nyrhex]

will you stop with the killing kids BS? if soldiers get hit by rocks from Palestinians the most they(the Palestinian kids) gonna get is hit with rubber bullets, if settelers throw rocks they get clubbed, kids arnt shot because they throw rocks, thats just what you think because you see pics and vids of soldiers shooting at them, but you cant tell that they are actually shooting rubber bullets.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

this may be true some of the time, but there are also many incidents where the troops will simply shoot one of the children with live ammo and the intent to kill; this has been an reoccuring incident. also, idf army operations do indiscriminate damage to innocent civilians in what amounts to collective punishment. this has a political motivation as the idf wants to eliminate rivals. their only justification is "terror threat" for illegal terrorism.

[nyrhex]

obviosly you dont know why innocent people get hurt, its for 2 main reasons:

1) they were at the wrong place at the wrong time and got hit from a bombing that was ment for someone/thing else. or they were too close to hostiles and got shoot.

2) they were mistaken to be hostiles.

IDF troops dont shoot just because they can, if you shoot a kid or an innocent person the case is investigated, and soldiers do get punished and sometimes jailed for hitting innocent people.