Atari Jaguar CD Unit + Packaging

[ivcbetamax]

do you have the manual of Atari jaguar cd or where i can download it i have one purchased in an flea marcket with no manual

[thorstenguenther]

Regarding all the comments that take the AVGN claims for granted: the Jaguar CD has a bog-standard Philips laser pickup/drive mechanism (CDM12.1) that can easily replaced if broken, and most "broken" Jaguar CDs are either not inserted correctly into the console (including the one in the AVGN video - it clearly wiggles on top of the console, but should sit firmly) or have the axle pushed into the drive itself because someone pressed the CD down once too often.

[alec1382]

@thorstenguenther But he had Richard wire it directly to the system, so that couldn't have been the problem.

[thorstenguenther]

@alec1382 You still take him for granted. The red screen means there's a a bad connection between the "cartridge" (in this case, the CD unit) and the console. This - as in all retro consoles - can be fixed by repeatedly inserting it. I have never have a CD unit fail completely on me (and I had four of them and still have three in storage). So how comes that Mr. Rolfe somehow purchased two faulty ones for over US$ 200 when Best Electronics, CA, sells them for 175 new and 135 reconditioned?

[alec1382]

@thorstenguenther Richard soldered the CD unit directly to the Jaguar. I'm still not understanding how there could have been a connection issue in that situation.

[gerryf964]

Big Sega Cd Rip Off

[druidenis]

look its a broken toilet addon :D

[zombiemouse]

Ok is this music NIN? because it sounds like them and it's in the related videos. What song is this?!

[doubledragonuk]

Managed to buy one today at a bootsale, just the unit and power supply, £12, i have 2 boxed consoles, with most vintage gaming it comes along, you just have to keep your eyes open, ive picked up many items over the years for my collection , it`s harder now but i still pick up bits, keep your eyes peeled, i only buy off ebay when the price is right, no need to go mad, £100 for 1 game madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!

[JohnDoe2089]

the xbox adopted the jaguar cds red screen of death as their own known now as the red rings of death

[chocobo77]

i just got one today in box (manuals) and it works fine played some blue ligthing....and it does look like a toilet for mini-me

[alec1382]

See that open space in the connectors? Money says that's for region protection.

[thorstenguenther]

@alec1382 Nope, the Jaguar does not have regional lockouts in either hardware or software. Only very bad programming can stop a Jaguar game from running fine in both 50Hz (PAL, SECAM) and 60Hz (NTSC) screen refresh rates (and until today, only one title ever had this problem: Dragon's Lair won't run properly on PAL and SECAM Jaguars).

[maxti6]

I had a Jaguar CD. Strange, back around 1998 you couldn't give these things away. No one wanted one. They were OK, but the only reason to have one was to play Dragon's Lair( which was a perfect port) and watch the colorful display when you played a music CD. Other than that it was a door stopper. Really.

The Jaguar had total potential, but Atari's tarnished reputation and some of those really bad unfinished looking early Jaguar titles pretty much sealed its fate as 'avoid this one'.

[mrweeeeeed]

with that thing on the jaguar it looks like a toilet and it's sucks ass because it dosen't work

[zoodrazim]

i love the jaguar

[IamPersonMan]

only 20,000 of these were ever made

Minus all the ones without boxes, and all the ones that broke.

Id say there are about only 200 of those things out there.

[J25x]

@IamPersonMan

I wish I didn't sell my mint condition still in box with all pack ins Jaguar CD back in 2002 to get an Apple iPod. :\

[hemidesign]

I had a Jaguar.... piece of CRAP!....

[mzeenroo123]

does it work?

[Daniel55556]

supriseingly in less than 30 years or so we go from pong to a hdmi xbox 360 ps3 and totly interactive wii

[Evmoy15]

These videos are very well done. The NiN was a nice touch. Kinda fits with the jaguar.

[konshuss]

send it to AVGN

[kilikman]

The AVGN already did this, besides why would someone want to send this to him?

[konshuss]

he didn't 'do' this, he does reviews. the 2 jaguar cd consoles he had did not work. this one might, so if he sends it to AVGN, maybe he can do reviews.

make sense?

[kilikman]

No, he can easily go out and buy one. He shouldn't rely on people to send him stuff.

[konshuss]

he doesn't. it was a suggestion, you dope. let it go. and he can't "go out and buy one" because these are RARE. do you understand the concept of donating a rare item to someone for review? are you really this stupid?

[kilikman]

Cool story, bro.

[MrRodrigez]

AVGN bought 2 Jaguar CDs...neither of those pieces of shit worked after he blew $450 on them..

[kilikman]

Good for that fag then.

[Marwarluigi]

I think he fixed his jaguar cd.

[Segadude3000]

I wonder if a PCI card will fit in the Cartridge slot

[kilikman]

Imagine what would happen!

[bignukkaplaya]

are there no videos without shitty music on youtube nowadays?

[metalgear2009]

i know

[kilikman]

I agree, NiN only did one good song. All the rest are just shitty songs that are remixed over and over (Ghosts 1 through 945728983214 anyone?)

[schieese]

Great console but with terrible games.

[AugerMartel]

Errr, sorry but that makes no sense at all. How the hell can it be a great console if it has terrible games? That's like someone saying that they have a great car which drives like s*** and breaks down constantly.

[akumacornflakes]

I wish people wouldn't act like the AVGN is a reliable source of video game information. It's like if everything you knew about Russia was from Yakov Smirnoff jokes.

[zipomotto0]

get rid of it! its dosent work! trust me and the avgn!

[flameroller]

If you look up information about it however you find that it has a high rate of failure. All in all it was poorly constructed and was a part of what ruined the company.

[dstarks80]

Mine still works after 14 years. Never even been cleaned and spent a couple years in a plastic bag buried in my closet. Pulled it out,bought an aftermarket power supply,still had Battlemorph in it,and it worked like a charm on the first try. Don't believe everything you read.

[Alienclot]

Dude send it to the AVGN (Angry Video Game Nerd) he would probably spend close to 500$ for a working one... anyway if you do send it to him tha he will review the games :)

[winner619]

send AVGN you jaguar CD. the ones he bought didnt work

[kilikman]

FUCK OFF! Just because the AVGNs doesn't work doesn't mean that someone SHOULD have to send them their consoles. Fuck the AVGN, he can go buy his fucking own!

[winner619]

Stupid ass the AVGN does work, he REVIEWS SHITTY GAMES FOR A LIVING AND GOOD OR BAD MOVIES TOO YOU DUMB FUCK. AND HE WORKS FOR GAMETRAILERS AND SPIKE

[Thegamer5150]

put a cartage in looks like a toilet LOL

[GameMaster44445]

AVGN Nice!

[jellyboy123]

omg the box is in mint nice, very nice!! did you have the manual.??

[hotdaddyhuggy]

I'm a big fan of the AVGN, but don't take his reviews seriously at all. A lot of what he says is purely for entertainment and therefore exaggerated and not entirely factual.

Why am I saying this? Because I've just seen one too many comments on youtube showing a blatant misguidance from hanging on every word James Rolf's (admittedly great) fictional character says!

[alecjahn]

Best comment I've read all day.

[teroxr]

another argentinian AVGN fan here!

[nemesisdarth]

lol thanks to the avgn we are all curious about the jaguar cd

[SuicidalBuu]

lol yup

[MaidenFan24568]

theres still a use for this yet as AVGN demonstrated, it can become a portable toilet lol

[ningamer]

1. It looks like a toilet

2. It has crap games

3. AVGN sent it to a tachy guy, who couldn't fix it, and then got another one, and then that one didn't work, and then he took a shit on it.

It...SUUUUUCKS!

[MingQing]

lol hope AVGN could get one and review it ;p

[dphbadboy]

does it work?

[Darkmero]

jajajaj i was seen the AVGN video too!!!

guess now everyone wants to know how this thing works

[TheDarkHighlander]

Lol did AVGN fans come here to find out if the Jaguar CD could be fixed? :P

[kinmanyuen]

lol do you get the red screen of death too?

[Longonizza]

"where did you learn to fly?" rofl

[JereHakala]

AVGN fan's we're here, lulz.

[musicbeatz08]

It's a toilet that never gets maintenance.

[kaakoo]

it's a toilettttttt

[dolkatube]

It´s a Toilet!

[kmp3000]

wow that looks rare

[ifedthehorse]

skip to the end...

[paulspydar]

thers one on ebay right now (24th dec 08) and it £299.00!!!  approx$680.00!!!!

[paulspydar]

i want one !!!

[kyori22]

is the Jaguar last console Atari last did?

[rich1980]

yup ... thank god

[ChicoEdge]

I think so.

[Bloufo]

$145 off of eBay incl Express Mail Shipping to South Africa.

I got the Jag console system itself, the Jag CD unit, Vid Grid game and three other cartridge games.

So I scored a decent deal.

[cleomagoolando]

Yeah, except you just wasted $145 on some of the worst garbage ever manufactured.

[Rickstilwell1]

I have this too. I had to buy 3 of them off ebay before I found one that worked right. The only problem with this unit is that the motor that spins the disc in the cd drive goes out. There are replacement drives you can get, but you have to get the right model. I had no luck finding one so I opted to return the product and buy from someone else. These systems rarely appear on ebay and can be worth up to $300.

[TypicalJoe1900]

Well Dragon's Lair must've looked awesome on it at least.

[Meganeo5]

Lol at the Back: "Look for these great CD Titles."

[kpbuckley]

I bought the CD add-on when I was 13, about a year after becoming bored with the Jag by itself. I think it worked about 5 times (just enough to get me through an entire game of Myst). I'm hoping that in ten years, my decision to keep it, along with all original packaging and manuals, will pay off!! It hasn't yet...

[MySegaSaturn]

Ha, I bet you could get some killer cash for it on eBay, especially if it has all of the manuals and packaging.

[prodge64]

since it doesn't even work I doubt he'll get more than $50 for it..

[MySegaSaturn]

Well, it might not be a serious issue. I'm sure that someone could fix it. Even so, someone somewhere might be willing to pay good cash for it just because it has everything with it. If it's a plain collector, they might not even want to use it anyway; just put it on a shelf behind glass.

[prodge64]

Maybe. I can only tell you that I'm a collector myself, and hardly ever use any of my vintage systems. But even so I'd never consider buying something that does not work, simply because it becomes useless to me. I mean, imagine filling a museum with just broken stuff.

[MySegaSaturn]

That's very true. Well, there's still the possibility of someone fixing it up. I mean, there could just be something put together poorly inside, since it worked a few times when it was new and then died... I'm sure someone could figure it out.

[neogeon]

I think he meant he only used it 5 times and had awkward wording, there is no way a remotely reasonably cared for CD add on would only work 5 times and not be returned to a store as defective.

[DeanoTheLegend87]

I really need one of these C.D add-ons for my Jag.

And whats everyones problem with Playstation, that was a sweet system.

[DeanoTheLegend87]

Just won myself a C.D Add-on on E-Bay.

Mint in the box.

[sega31098]

atari was just pure genius making it so you can make it function by the cartrige slot.

[sega31098]

atari was genius making it so you can put into the cartrige slot.

[baredd79]

Sony ruined everything!

[corky415]

why the cd add ons don't companies now add ons ruine systems look at sega genesis/ segacd/32X/CDX two of those systems were cd based systems irroniclly all of them suck except the genesis now lets look at the JAGUAR the system itself sux and adding something for it makes it worse.

[ex295]

wasnt there VLM in playstation?

[deanpook]

True that the Playstation displayed graphics when an audio CD was played out but it wasn't a VLM.

History here:

llamasoft co uk / vlm php

I guess a part of the Jag lives on today in the Xbox 360:

llamasoft co uk / neon php

[JackBauer270]

yeah this was pretty cool, I remember a friend of mine having one but he could never find any games for it

[GamingPalooza]

i rememebr playing jaguar and i liked it. Wolf3D and Doom was superior on it.

[DMXP100]

did u see the sticker on the back of the JagCD? it said, "manufactured by Philips."

the same company that did CD-i?!?! holy shit!

[SidNightWalker]

A blast from the suckass past.

[sugreev2001]

They would've done a bit better if they had changed their awful controller,if you can call it that.

[RazorFastClaws]

I personally love the Jag controller. It has a good grip, you can hold it without getting cramps of trying to hold some bloody small crap controller.

[Zoomer30]

I give Sega crap for all the crap they dumped on the gaming public in the early-mid 90s, Atari makes Sega looking like a freking gospel singing group when you compare them to Atari. I mean at least the Sega CD/32X could play games well (not that any were made for them :D )

[RazorFastClaws]

I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.. The Cd/32X could play games but there were non made for them... right.

I don't know about that, but the Jaguar+CD played games very well and there were made games for it. Not that many and only a few good ones, but still.

[vgiannakos]

Why SEGA man, Jaguar and Saturn would have survived if not for the playstation crap back then. Then we could all play good games and enjoy them.

[Zoomer30]

Since I am a man, I would forget to close the lid on the CD thing there :D

[hakadalmann]

Looks like a toilet

[arenr2a]

kind of like a sega cd but 64 bits instead of 16 bits.

[Lejourinator]

no shit

[RazorFastClaws]

A CD player/ROM doesn't add any bits to a system. Thats an Old Sega lie. The Audio it replays from CD is 16 bits.

[JPThunder01]

Yeah didn't Sega try to say that the Sega CD was 32-bits? I remember reading that in a bunch of magazines back in the day.

[Starduck37]

Sega 32, not Sega CD.

[Starduck37]

32x.

[fafaflunkie]

Oh look! A TOILET! Yeah, I remember spending $250 on one of those things back in 1995. And what games came out for Jag CD other than the ones packed with it. Beyond that, the JagCD was little more than a toilet. Although I will admit that VLM was awesome at the time. (Before you email me, google "VLM" or "Virtual Light Machine")

[hakadalmann]

kind of like the 32X?

[RazorFastClaws]

Nope. 32x added extra processing power or was basicly a new system in a box on top of the megadrive/genesis. The Jag-Cd is what it says it is. A cd add on. Nothing more, nothing less. But it had built in OS and the VLM Which was really cool.. Even Xbox360 has it these days. M$ Steals every idea!

[ivanvalerian]

in fact, it's not stealed. XBox360 uses a version of VLM-3.

[Tekknorg]

Very good, thank you. Thats how youtube should be. Im gonna watch all your movies.

[derwahrejott]

The construction is, in my opinion, rather shoddy. When I play mine, I have to put a book or something on the unit so there's enough pressure on the little button inside the system. Still, I'm glad to e=own one, especially as they're now so hard to find.

[deathslug]

Thats cool, but do you have any good systems?

[doctorclu]

They rock if nothing else as a good graphical CD player. :) And many new games for the Jag can be written on a CD-R and played on it.

[jeremey00]

"Close here"

[brooksieb1988]

nice. i got to play the jaguar in the museum, its a shame it never came in britain or japan cuase alot of people knowed and liked atari and it probably would of caught on

[Intersonus903]

I don't think so.

The reason why the Jaguar crashed here in the states was because most of the games available for it were terrible. There simply weren't that many games on the Jag that could truly distinguish themselves from what was on Nintendo and Sega.

The same situation would exist in international markets as well, so it would likely have failed overseas, especially in Japan.

[brooksieb1988]

good points there maybe if it had better games that could take advantage of its '64 bits of mega power' than it probably would of got released to britain (maybe not japan loads of consoles there) atari wud of still been in the market

p.s. the jaguar came 5th out of ten of the most biggest video game flops =(

[fafaflunkie]

Actually, Atari did try its luck with the Jaguar - both in Japan and in the UK - with expected results: abysmal.

Total worldwide sales for Jaguar was less than 500,000 when Atari decided to get into the hard drive business and kill the Jaguar in 1996.

[RazorFastClaws]

The JAg had a more or less world wide release. I don't know why people think it was only sold in the US?

Atari never went into the hard drive business. They were bought by JTS, a small company that did something in harddrives.

[fafaflunkie]

Actually, it was kind of the other way around. A rather complicated "reverse merger" (ask an accountant, but the procedure was done to make both Atari and JTS happy - Atari got to claim tax losses, JTS got to be publicly traded without needing to issue an IPO.)

[RazorFastClaws]

Yeah i remember it was kinda done to keep the money in the family. Being true or not it was probably the best way for both companies to quit their business without too much losses.

[illuminadi]

thanks, I never saw one up close