As Sam Harris wrote: If the 9/11 bombings had been carried out by the Afghanistan government, it would have been an act of war rather than terrorism, and I doubt we'd be in a 'war on war' instead of a war on terrorism.
We're not at war with a tactic. What if they choose a different tactic ? Are we then suddenly no longer at war ? Do we change it to 'War on X' (fill in the new tactic) ? No. We're at war with an ideology, a violent hateful doctrine bent on conquest using ANY tactic they can.
join the crusade...more ivan groznys less dhimmis.....america is the last place where infidels musselmen heretics will thrive.....my cherokee ass will die to make sharia wither
@syazwankhan Seems to me like every mainstream sect of Islam teaches warfare and subjugation of unbelievers until Islam is the dominant religion and Islamic law is everywhere. I wonder where they get that idea from...
@syazwankhan That's not what scholars of the four madhabs have been saying for the past 1000+ years, nor what the Quran itself says when read in context and chronological order. You seem to be the one hijacking the teachings of Islam in order to insert your own meanings into the text.
@limersbey it is true that islam has to be spread but not through war and force. as a muslim, i have to invite others to islam but the rest is up to the person to decide.
@syazwankhan Well then you are either ignorant or deliberately misleading people. Have you forgotten what Muslims are to do if the invitation to Islam is refused? Let me remind you:
"When you meet your enemies who are polytheists invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them"
@limersbey what you've quoted is simply a part of the laws in an Islamic state. I dont see anything wrong with this. Jizya is a material proof of the non-Muslims' acceptance of subjection to the Islamic state and its laws. In return, non-Muslim citizens is permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, to be exempted from military service and the zakat obligatory upon Muslim citizens.
@syazwankhan You don't see anything wrong with this? That's precisely the problem. No doubt the non-Muslims who know you think of you as a "moderate", when in fact you are a sickening individual, blindly following evil.
I hope people take notice of how you think and what that means for them in the future if your oppressive ideology isn't pushed back to the cave it came from.
@syazwankhan sir, it is not merely paying a tax which is sickening. It is the institutionalised discrimination against non-Muslims, women and anyone who wishes to openly criticise the Islamic system which is disgusting.
What if your testimony in a court was invalid against Christians? What if you were forbidden to hold authority over Hindus? What if you were killed for promoting Islam to Jews or wanting to build a Mosque? Stop playing dumb and wake up to what you are saying.
@limersbey its not a discrimination. Muslims have to pay the zakat (obligated charitable donations) every year. Non-muslims have to pay the jizya tax.
@Lossmega Yes, Islam is not just a religion, its a complete system on how to live this life. The video that u referred to me contains some truth and some lies/misunderstood concept of Islam.
@syazwankhan Did you ignore everything I said on purpose or are you just stupid? Non-Muslims must live under humiliating conditions which would outrage any Muslim were they subjected to the same treatment. Your hypocrisy is outrageous.
@syazwankhan Well the testimony of a non-Muslim against a Muslim is invalid in a criminal court under Shariah. Non-Muslims are not permitted to build new places of worship or repair old ones. No Church or Temple can be taller than a Masjid. Non-Muslims are not permitted to promote their religion to Muslims or to criticise Islam in any way. They are not permitted to hold any authority over Muslims. The Qisas for a non-Muslim is at least half that as for a Muslim.
Islam is responsible for more death,destruction and slavery than anything else to ever exist. Islam murdered over 270,000,000 non muslims before 1950. 70,000,000 hindus and 120,000,000 Africans that died during the muslim slave trade which did not end yetl The best thing to do is.......
Dont judge Islam based on the actions of the bad/misguided Muslims. Read and understand the Qur'an first. The teachings of a religion lies within the book itself.
It sure does. Your hole-y book advocates lying for islam. So tell me, how are we to know whether a muslim is ever telling us the truth, or if he or she even has a passing acquaintance with the truth? And aren't those 'peaceful' Medina verses abrogated by the violent Mecca ones?
islam: The Religion of Human Pieces and Flying Body Parts
@tealeaf56 typical stereotype of so called "Islam" in the west. You seriously need to educate yourself about fundamentals of Islam before making any statement that will only make u sound stupid. Just go to wikipedia and search for Islam. Quite alot of info there.
@syazwankhan, I began to learn all I needed to know about islam on September 5, 1972. That lesson was brought home on 9/11/01. islam is a gutter 'religion', a political ideology no different from any other form of totalitarin government. If islam is so bloody wonderful (pun intended) and is so respectful of other religions, why are there no churches or temples located within the country that is the home base of islam?
We know islam, and we don't like it. Take your shari'a and shove it.
@tealeaf56 Just to let u know, terrorism has no place in Islam. Those heartless terrorists hijacked Islam before they hijack any airplanes to carry out their brutal actions. Peace.
Oh, and no one hijacked islam. Pisslam is a murdering death cult founded by a pedophile caravan robber and mass murderer. How's praying in Mecca to a meteorite encased in a silver vagina working out for you? It sure isn't working out for us. Mecca should have been obliterated after 9/11. Muzzies are gonna be pissed off at the US no matter what we do, so why not?
@tealeaf56 To be specific, it means submission to God. Up to u man if u want to insult Islam but nothings going to change the beauty of this religion. More and more people in the US are converting to Islam because they know how peaceful and beautiful Islam is. I dont blame u, its all the fault of heartless terrorists. We muslims are actually becoming the victim of terrorists so its not logic to say that we actually support them. Use your intelligence and think.
@syazwankhan, Geez, you muzzies. Full of dawah, taqqiya and lots of bullshit. islam is not beautiful, not for a dhimmi, or even for a musliminah (they being worth less than a man).
Just because lots of idiots want to be dominated and not have to think for themselves so they 'revert' to islam, well, there's this old saying: Eat shit. 11 billion flies can't be wrong.
If pisslam is so peaceful, why kill over khartoons? Why keep repeating the word 'peace' as if that makes it true?
@tealeaf56 So tell me what do u know about dawah, and taqqiya?. Dont make statements if u dont even know what you are talking about. Any proof from the quran that Islam view muslimah as worthless than a man? "Eat shit. 11 billion flies can't be wrong" You eat shit? I feel sorry for u.
@syazwankhan, Like communism and national socialism, I want the ideology islam gone from the face of the earth. Feel sorry for me all you want.
Just remember: There are no muslims in Star Trek, or in Babylon 5, though Babylon 5 did have Jews. That should get you seething. Can I get a good seethe from you? Maybe a suicide bombing? Or even a simple stoning? Maybe hang a homosexual or two?
@tealeaf56 Lol. so what if theres no muslim in star trek, babylon 5 or whatever it is? Suicide bombing is totally against Islamic teachings. Get your facts straight. You are humiliating yourself. You are too influenced by the actions of so called "muslim" terrorists shown in the media. Btw, you got dawah right, but taqqiya you are not specific enough. I dont think u know the actual meaning of it. Educate yourself before insulting. So you're a christian huh?
muslim bullshit isn't specific enough? How cute. As for the so-called muslim terrorists, they are not terrorists, they are good faithful muslims. Period. It is your 'theology' that encourages suicide killings as that act provides an entry to the whorehouse that is muslim 'paradise'. Me a Christian? You assume much. But then you are a muslim, and you assume pisslam is a religion when in fact it's a murderous death cult.
You are full of taqqiya, that is, you are full of shit.
@tealeaf56 I know my religion better than u do. Terrorist are not good faithful muslims, they are the black sheep among muslims. Period. U dont have any proof from the Quran to support your statement that Islam encourages suicide bombing.
“And do not kill yourselves, God is merciful with you. And whosoever does that (kills self) with aggression and inequity, we will make them suffer in Hell fire, and this is easy for God to do” (Qur'an 4 : 29-30)
@Vangrungy We are only allowed to fight infidels who fight us, trying to stop us from practicing our religion freely and trying to drive us out from our homes. "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)", "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
@syazwankhan (Sahih Muslim, Book 40, Number 6985), if a Jew seeks refuge under a tree or a stone, these objects will be able to speak to tell a Muslim: “There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him!”
[9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
@syazwankhan ohh so you're saying that when Jihadist invoke the very parables of the likes of Koran 9:29 that they are just Islamaphobes? or that they are "misrepresenting Islam?" maybe instead of casting Islam as a religion of peace you should actually state just where these Jihadists' are wrong? they are making the statements, and yet there is no Muslim Outrage... yet when a cartoon of Muhammad is put in a news paper.... what do you know...... you got Muslim outrage. what a crock....
@XanALaOM00 "Jihadist invoke the very parables of the likes of Koran 9:29 that they are just Islamaphobes?" Those so called "Jihadist" was brainwashed by some violent minded militant groups. They hijacked Islam and quote the Quran out of context to support their violent actions.
@syazwankhan Well then did Muhammad have it wrong when he said he had been made victorious through terror? Perhaps he was the one who hijacked Islam to begin with and the rest of the Muslims who do the same are only following his example.
@MEpianist Look at the Nidal Hassan case. Jeraldo talking about a tooth ache, Matthews asking if religion may have played a role and then defending Hassan about the fact he called Al Qaida "It's not illegal to call Al Qaida, is it?" Yes, it seems ridiculous, but intelligent people really do think that way. I think it's terrible, but it's for real.
@TomerMMHA Well I'm a liberal and I don't imagine that the terrorists that have declared war on us for any reason other than pan-Islamic radicalism, based in Qutbism and Muslim Brotherhood ideology. I just think, unlike Fox News watchers, that we shouldn't trash our freedoms in the process of responding. I think anyone who laughs at this drivel needs to get out more and find out what a liberal is, you won't learn about us from Rush.
@MEpianist I agree with your last point. I think that one shouldn't paint every single liberal with the same brush, just like liberals shouldn't paint all conservatives as Michael Savage who wants to bomb the desert into glass.
Again, you haven't answered my point about Matthews and Geraldo. Or those who call many attacks by Islamists "isolated incidents". I think this video correctly portray some people on your side, but not all. You certainly seem more sensible than many in your side.
@TomerMMHA Well I don't have to defend those incidents... I'm actually more irrational and strident than most liberals, but what happens on YouTube is it quickly degenerates into ad hominems and you both come away thinking the other side isn't "sensible." I would argue that very few liberals, mostly young high school posers, actually think we aren't in a war with jihadists. But that doesn't mean we give up our rights, torture people, etc... that's where the debate starts.
not all Muslims are evil terrorists, many don't their Koran and the Hadith enough to practice Islamist supremacist doctrines as commanded by their prophet and their god.
yes evil muslims they cant be human beings all 1.5 BILLION muslim are this bad i wonder why we are still alive now LOL u r a fucking idiot if u believe that
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dogharton, just google dearborn michigan & islam, this will clear up any of your delusional misunderstanding of islam & how peaceful they r, its only a matter of time b4 they start more trouble in the US. google it & watch the clip.
Doghardton, explain to me please, the Muslims obsession (and the obsession of all totalitarian ideologies like Nazism) with the Jew? There seems to be truth to the old addage that anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools.
"Death"......Islam's general hatred of the Jew predates ZIonism and the State of Israel by many centuries. Before Islam, Jews and Arabs got along very well, shared many customs, and had much in common.
Islam introduced "god's will" into hatred of other groups (Jews, Christians, and of course "idolatrous" sects such as Buddhism and Hinduism, which faced utter extermination under Islamic rule, at least at first).
i cant beleive how satanic america is. how can you talk about somthing like this on the news mocking a whole entire nation of ppl across the world, i have now realised fox news is run by jews and they want to use the media to make americans hate islam. in london u will never see a tv programme devoted to hating christianity or muslim etc. also what about the millions of muslims living in the u.s,,the world has gone mad!! and this type of behavior is not normal
@doghartdon, how can anybody can take you seriously..you have supposedly condemned "generalizing" of whole group of people..and then do the same thing yourself..You do not have a moral strrength, you see only when it hurts you...poor baby
i never replyd to yur other question cos it was a bullshit question, i do not generelise jews,,all i hate is zionists who control the media, america is satanic and zionist are too, zionists give jews a bad name and islam too.
you are backpedalling...you have posted: fox news is run by jews """ # 1. it is a lie, Murdoch - is a Scott , but that is irrelevant #2. This clip is a result of actions by some Muslims and Medias refusal to call a spade a spade.
#3.You calling it abnormal? Well, If you were NORMAL Western Person (American Brit, etc) --you would be concern why some Muslims feel justified to kill inside of our countries to which they were allowed to come and be equal citizens. That what a normal citizen would be concerned with, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike....Yet, the only thing you are concern that this clip exposes facts, the true facts by the way --that Muslims committing acts of terror in the countries that have accepted them
stop talking shit , the muslism are pissed offf at america for funding israel! again the zionist hide this informatiion,,anyway please no more questions and dont reply u ppl have been brainwashed and its too late theres no hope for u anymore
oh poor babies, Jews did it again , gee..."" stop talking shit """--forgot to ask your permission ...and you right ""theres no hope for u anymore"" - so enjoy the West, since it aint going to last for you
no it doesnt, the quran says if sombody trying to fight u then u must fight back,the jews(zionist) have brainwashed u through the american media! this video being an example, notice on fox news they never talk positive about islam, ask yurself why
Yes EarnestBergholt not to mention Muslim conquests of Spain, France, Anatolia, North Africa and India.
They were all self defensive actions you see. The Muslims were simply defending themselves against people who have never heard of them, living in countries thousands of miles away from Arabia.
oh no! it was a cardiac virus called 'peace' which spread whenever Mohammed and his followers sneezed. It spread like swine flu and made many hearts soft and compassionate like that of Osama bin Laden.
Oh it's probably all those suicide bombings, beheadings, genocide and carnage that makes MOST people disgusted with Islam. It's not Fox news doghartdon its the Muslims,
@doghartdon, a Russian Ortodox Priest who has many videos here on YouTube about Islam & Mohamed , in russian , was killed today by a Muslim... That is Your fucken "true religion" that feels it is entitled to kill people and for what ? for expressing their opinion..You Muslims dont belong in the civilized world and you will force us, Non-Muslims , to get rid of your Islam...together with you..
You are illiterate to Islam and history and this is apparent through your answers that avoid the question. Keep googling Quran violence to find some things you can regurgitate. In a debate your arguments will have no substance and you will fail, as you do with everything else you do in your measly life.
Heres something to get you going
Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
Here is proof Al-Qaeda is a response to western imperialism. Osama bin Laden has been calling for Jihad against the USA since 1990. During this time he made various videos and speeches calling for attacks on the USA, during this time there was several operations against US targets. He never once mentioned the UK and from 1990-2001 there was never any attacks, plots or incitement to attack the UK by Muslims, all these things only happened after the UK joined the USA in war against Muslim lands.
I am saying, incidents like 9/11 7/7 or the Madrid bombings are a result of western policies that do the same and much worst to different countries and for a sustained period of time. Just because the media ignores, and we never see the photos of the carnage and F16 does to a town, and we never see the photos or hear the names of those killed by the west, does not mean does not happen.
LoL....I could argue on all your bullshit points about F16s and your statement that the terror acts by Muslims are results of Western policies.. there were others , who had real grievances with USA and never done terror acts :
Vietnamese , who suffered millions of deaths at the hands of American military never undertook to kill American civilians, Latin Americans --who were treated like children and mistreated by American corporations ,Japanese who were nuked and who had hundred of thousands of Japanese in USA , all of them never undertook to kill American Civilians
And I am not talking here about the reasons Americans were in Vietnam or nuked Japan, just to bring the fact that only Muslims feel that they have the God given right to kill and justify the killing
Ohh, so its OK for America to massacre and rape but not OK for people to defend themselves or retaliate, talk about fascism. Lol, and did the Vietnamese stand back and let US soldiers massacre, carpet bomb, napalm and rape Vietnamese or did they fight back? Yes most of the world has been oppressed by the US. Either directly, through proxy, economic bullying, or the USA keeping/putting into power corrupt despot leaders, or punishing people for having leaders that do not play ball with the US.
I am not going to argue about Vietnam here, there were good reasons why US end up being there ..But I like your fight back.. As those Muslims who blew Brits on 7/7 , declaring themselves soldiers in the war and went on conducting their war on the the streets of London against people who are told afterwards, that those Muslims are just misguided kids. .
They and you mean as "fight back" --is being an American or British or Spanish Citizen.. enjoying all the rights and privileges as citizens , telling all and everybody that you are peaceful community and then killing people who just going about their business?
And then ,when Muslims are disliked as result and looked upon as not trustworthy Muslims call everybody Islamophobe!! That is your fighting back.. I have no problems with Muslims being against the policies of the West, fine ,I have no desire to start explaining to them how wrong they are , but then collect your integrity and get the fuck out of here ..But you are staying , and some of you are planning more killings ..talking about having both ways..
Mamoderawat. regardless of any spin you put , Islam is an ideology with the self-delusional entitlement to the domination of the World with the 7th century desert dogma... All those who dont follow Islam- are viewed as infadels...--enemies of Allah and there is no mercy to the enemies of Allah ..Christians from Middle Ages would understand that , Jews from times of Moses would understand that --
Unfortunate for the 50000 Iraqi kids killed by US sanctions that deprived them of medicine, food and other basic necessities. Unfortunate for the 800000 Iraqis killed, 1000000 maimed and displaced due to the imperialistic US invasion. Unfortunate for the 1000000s raped in the mountains for Afghanistan in the most underreported war crime ever, by US military and the war gangs they back. Unfortunate for the millions of Vietnamese killed or born deformed, or the Latins and others who have suffered
Look , all what you have posted is spin again , USA troops are not after killing kids, deprive people of medicine and the rest ..Islam has conquered, raped, killed and imposed itself long time before USA even has existed..
The motivation to blow Westerners up comes from Islam itself . The policies of the West, which sometimes are mistakes or even evil, regardless if they were intended to be that or not --still, are just a cover for many Muslims to justify their hate and that entitlement , both of which have preceded the very existence of the Contemporary Western World ---..
Look at how structuring sentences, look at your posting (emphasis is mine) :.. show me how UNPROVOKED attacks are permissible in Islam!!! ....poor Muslims, always somebody did it to them!!! They themselves obviously can not distinguish what is right and what is evil... ..Poor Islam!!! it is always provoked!!!!!
and this is why they have the right to kill and impose..Gee..And if I to bring up to you historical facts clearly demonstrating the ugly aggressive imposing nature of Islam on the rest of humanity whats then? You going to change your mind and drop on following that crap called Islam??? Of course not , because you are brainwashed not to have critical thinking but to follow the Muslim dogmas which supposedly are from God Himself!! Riiiiiiight ...
The whole history of Islam , from the day one of its existence 1400 years ago --demonstrates its self-bestowed entitlement that it has the right to impose itself..Within first 100 years of its existance the armies of this ""peacefull"" religion somehow end up being in France..It is so "peacefull"" that we have today Instambul and not Constantinopole...
The largest Church in the World --was quickly converted into a Mosque, by these ""pecefull and respecting other religions "" Muslims. I could go on and on..It is irrelevant...400 years ago Non-Muslims came to conclusion that only Secular states can be just states and now , with the influx of Muslim immigrants , back to squere one--dealing with the religious dogmas ..
Again your using intangible non statistical opinions, that you are simply regurgitating from what you hear without really knowing anything, about Muslims. Whether its true or not, I am asking about Islam, the acts of a Muslim can fall outside of Islam for example if he/she drinks. So your talk as if you are a schooled and knowledgeable man, so tell me how does Islam mandate the killing of non-muslims please answer using things taken from Islam, i.e Quran, that should give u something to google.
It is the obligation of Muslims to read and follow their Quran...I dont givah shit what is written there, although I am sure there are plenty of hateful garbage in that book..
The only true denominator of everything is the reality and actions of followers , in this case Muslim actions.. ..
I would not waste my time on ramblings of some desert megalomaniac from 7th century.. .... at the end of it all , I dont care what is written there, let it be written there that a Muslim should kill a Non-Muslim in the morning before he eats his breakfast, but if in life , a Muslim conducts himself as a person who lives and let's live --I will consider him a fellow Western Citezen..
Let say Quran states: to love your enemies, and yet the Muslims running around the world with the foam on their mouths with their entitlements and justifications for their ugly actions --I wil consider him a throwback , a person who does not belong in the free society , an enemy ..
I, as other Western individuals, done my duty towards you as a Muslim.
I , as others, respect your right to practice your religion freely without fear and intimidation and be an equal citizen as the rest...Live and let live...It does not mean that I have to respect your believes and learn about them...
I do not know anything about Sikhs --I givah shit what they believe, as long as they keep it to themselves..Now , your duty is to keep your religion exactly to yourself, and be a citizen loyal to our Western Values
..If you feel it conflicts with your Islam --get the fuck out here..that is it.. But do not expect me , as a person from 21 st century, to respect your Islam where for one example only : your Allah acts more like the Pimp of the Universe distributing virgins to murderes than the Divinity.
Alll of the schools of Islam that are considered orthodox teach, as part of the obligation of the Muslim community, warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers.
Shafi'i school: A Shafi'i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University in Cairo, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates that the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians...until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.
E.g "Kill the unbelievers" is often quoted by people like you who ignore the justifications from the same verses. Those to kill are enemy combatants, as when these verses were revealed the Muslims did not kill the non-muslims in Medina where the verses were revealed, or those in Makkah after defeating the Makkan army. This was unheard of for a victorious army to walk into the city they had taken and not massacre the civilian population.
You're right. According to Muhammad, there is no need to kill the infidel, so long as he either converts to Islam or, if he wishes to remain a Jew or a Christian, is subdued into inferior status under Islamic rule. Islam is very kind like that. As long as it dominates, death and destruction are not inevitable.
@EarnestBergholt, yeah, similar to the times, when blacks had accepted their inferiour status to white plantation owners...I bet those owners thought of themselves that they are good and peacefull people..and there was ""peace""
@EarnestBergholt Oh yes lets not forget that the women take inferior status. Such as if w woman is raped she has to produce 4 male witnesses that testify that they saw it and if a man claims that one of his wives has been unfaithful he has an immediate divorce in his favor and if they decide that the woman has been unfaithful then she can be executed. And if that is your definition of kind then I want no part of it. Thats not even what they are supposed to do to people of other religions.
---..YOU KNOW IT , I KNOW IT, AND MAJORITY KNOWS IT but we live in the world where we cannot call things by their true names. .But that will end one nice day..Muslims, whith their actions , will ensure that, regardless how strongly our politicians in the West will try to deny it
Yes guys. Watch the PBS documentary. Then also watch: Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against The West Dispatches Channel4 - Unholy War Dispatches Channel4 - Undercover Mosque Islam - What The West Needs To Know (documentary) The New Al-Qaeda series (BBC) The Third Jihad (documentary) Visit these infidel-friendly sites: thereligionofpeace (dot) com jihadwatch (dot) org faithfreedom (dot) org islam-watch (dot) org And read the books by Robert Spencer, Ibn Warraq and Bat Ye'or
Copy and paste the following into your youtube search bar.
Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 1: Prophet Muhammad and rise of Islam (full; PBS Documentary)
There is a lot of judgement towards Islam, even when people act against it, and all people from the Muslim world are wrongly assumed to have a homogenous level of belief to Islam. What people do is only a part of Islam if it falls within the framework of Islam, set out during the time of the prophet, see for yourself/
Mamoderawat, you as a typical Muslim do not see or do not understand , or do not want to understand, or lying that the first and foremost issue with Islam most of Non-Muslims have is the fact that Islam has self- bestowed upon itself (or actually Mohamed did that ) this self-delusional entitlement to rule over all of us , Muslims and Non-Muslims alike. ..
When we see the interference in our lives from Islam , we take a look at Islam ..And then we see this backward primitive and most importantly a totalitarian garbage fancying itself that it has the right to order us..
Possibly Hindu religions is crap , I am sure it has funny and stupid aspects to it (never read about it , and do not want to ) , I am sure Orthodox Jews and Sikhs have stupid , funny regulations, possibly Christian Hetorites Mennonites and the rest of religions have aspects that a normal Western Person would consider idiotic. .
but all of that does not matter to us --who subscribe to the principle ""live and let live"".. Because all those rules that Hindus, Orthodox Jews,Sikhs, Christian Hetorites Mennonites and the rest (except Muslims ) have apply only to the followers of those religions and they are not looking to bestow them on the rest of society.
But not with Muslims and Islam..It is not enough for Muslims that they have all the rights everybody else has, it is not enough that they can practice their religion freely in our Non-Muslim world, Muslims demand that we respect and obey by their religious dogmas..
I givah shit what Islam came up with or did not come up with 600 years ago..But I do care , that my fellow citizen (who happened to be Muslim) would share the same major values that our Liberal Western Society has ..And that Muslim citizen does not and that , at the end , will destroy Islam in the West.
For you to be able to name the events over the past 200 years shows how relatively limited they are. Now anything done by anyone from the Muslim world is attributed to Islam, regardless of the persons motivation. They are to many to name, but British Empire throughout the world, WW1, WW2, French, Spanish and Italian occupations and wars etc far worst and more numerous than anything coming from the Muslim world.
All the alleged miracles of the Koran evaporate on even the most superficial of inspections. There's simply nothing there. No exact terminology, no details, nothing that could make it the least bit plausible as a scientific insight. And that's actually true for all those so-called miracles. A miracle is an event reported by someone who didn't see it.
Moslems will bring up the crimes of the West, especially the Crusades. The fact is that the Crusades were waged to counter the Seljuk advance on Byzantium and the atrocities inflicted on Christians and Jews in the Holy Land. The Crusades were waged during a period of time when life in general was totally barbaric. This barbarism is unimaginable to modern Western sensibilities, but still considered absolutely reasonable by Moslems.
Had the Crusades not been waged, had the Habsburg monarchy not turned back the Ottoman tide at the end of the 17th Century, had Isabel of Castile not driven the Moors from Grenada, you would not be reading this diatribe. You would be illiterate, ruled by a tyrant, and squatting on the dirt floor of a mud-brick shack picking your nose.
Had the Crusades not been waged, had the Habsburg monarchy not turned back the Ottoman tide at the end of the 17th Century, had Isabel of Castile not driven the Moors from Grenada, you would not be reading this diatribe. You would be illiterate, ruled by a tyrant, and squatting on the dirt floor of a mud-brick shack picking your nose.
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The Islamic Golden Age or the Islamic Renaissance, is traditionally dated from the 9th to 15th centurie. During this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to the arts, agriculture, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own.
Enslaving and islamizing "infidel" cultures and then claiming their achievemnts as "islamic" can't hide the fact that Islam itself has produced nothing of a value in all 1400 years.
Islam is an expansionist militant culture of social parasitism, dogmatism, primitivism, backwardness, hatred and genocide. Hostile to sciences and arts, intellectually and morally dishonest to the core, psychologically disturbed and insecure, Islam is a degradation of humanity.
I agree with you, they believe all what they stole form others was really their invention. How could a gang of warlords commanded by an illiterate camel dealer achieve anything from death, conquer and destruction?
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Contributed to Medicine, science, architecture, administration, mathematics and much more, think of the words that begin with Al, eg ALgebra, ALchemy etc. It was a Muslim that estimated the circumference of the earth and came within 300 miles of todays estimate, He did this without satellites or even a full map of the world, all done by angles from a hill and the horizon. WAKE and stop being ignorant. I accept TODAY the muslim world is retarded, and the West carries the torch of advancement.
Algebra was based on an ancient Babylonian system of quadratic equations and the ancient Egyptians pioneered chemistry some 4000 years ago.
Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference to within a 1% error in 240BC, along with the tilt of the Earth's axis. he also did this without satellites, GPS or even being conquered by islam.
You are the first person I've herad saying this.People simply don't know or they don't want to know. BTW the so called "Arabic innumeracy" is actually "Indian innumeracy"... Muslims spread it all along the world, but Indians created the system :-)))
Heh! In the same way muslims have contributed to AL Gore, ALcoholism, ALarmism, ALlergy, ALpinism, ALligators, ALfa-Romeo cars and ALbanian drug cartels.
They didn't contribute to Architecture at all, I am an architect; I am Spanish and I have studied it.. they just "decorated" the Christian structures and used our concepts... Architecture is not decoration.... They even used our "latin cross plan" for some of their mosques.-))))))...while they distroyed all Christian Churches and used the columns for their Mosques..that is why you can find stories of the bible in the capitals of the comuns of the Cordoba Mosque!!!
So minarets are a Christian thing? Which was more tolerant to different religions. The Muslim rule or that of Ferdinand and Izabella? You can find stories of the Bible in Mosques because they transfered from mosques to churches and then back again. Izabella despite hating Muslim was influenced by Islamic art and architecture. Spain has 4 types of people those indifferent to the past, those who deny and hate Islam, those who hate Islam but accept and those still fascinated by the Muslim past.
As Sam Harris wrote: If the 9/11 bombings had been carried out by the Afghanistan government, it would have been an act of war rather than terrorism, and I doubt we'd be in a 'war on war' instead of a war on terrorism.
We're not at war with a tactic. What if they choose a different tactic ? Are we then suddenly no longer at war ? Do we change it to 'War on X' (fill in the new tactic) ? No. We're at war with an ideology, a violent hateful doctrine bent on conquest using ANY tactic they can.
sogghartha 8 months ago
Islam is evil. Pure and simple
cubi131 11 months ago 6
join the crusade...more ivan groznys less dhimmis.....america is the last place where infidels musselmen heretics will thrive.....my cherokee ass will die to make sharia wither
finnandcork 1 year ago
Funny, but sadly enough also true.
svrljig 1 year ago
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another dead end.
svrljig 1 year ago
Islam is a criminal organization.
muslimsgotohell 1 year ago
Freaking HILARIOUS !! But then again GENOCIDAL MUSLIM TERRORISTS committing GENOCIDE against innocent people all over the world is NOT funny !!!
ISLAM=BIGOTRY
ISLAM=RACISM
ISLAM=HOMOPHOBIA
ISLAM=MISOGYNY
ISLAM=SLAVERY
ISLAM=GENOCIDE
modestexhibitionist 1 year ago 27
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SenorElDano 1 year ago
Can we have more of these please? i love it.
bharatmortgages 1 year ago
brilliant satire, and bang on the money....
we need more of it too
especially with the wilfully ignorant/deceitful
example V
secula4eva 1 year ago
Islam is a peacful religion. Its been hijacked by the TERRORIST. They make use of it to justify their violence.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
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said, "Islam is a peacful religion. Its been hijacked by the TERRORIST. They make use of it to justify their violence."
I assume this was a joke?
OxAO 1 year ago
@syazwankhan Seems to me like every mainstream sect of Islam teaches warfare and subjugation of unbelievers until Islam is the dominant religion and Islamic law is everywhere. I wonder where they get that idea from...
limersbey 1 year ago
@limersbey not true. warfare is not allowed unless muslims are being attacked by non-muslims. like a country being attacked by another country.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan That's not what scholars of the four madhabs have been saying for the past 1000+ years, nor what the Quran itself says when read in context and chronological order. You seem to be the one hijacking the teachings of Islam in order to insert your own meanings into the text.
limersbey 1 year ago
@limersbey it is true that islam has to be spread but not through war and force. as a muslim, i have to invite others to islam but the rest is up to the person to decide.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan Well then you are either ignorant or deliberately misleading people. Have you forgotten what Muslims are to do if the invitation to Islam is refused? Let me remind you:
limersbey 1 year ago
"When you meet your enemies who are polytheists invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them"
limersbey 1 year ago
@limersbey what you've quoted is simply a part of the laws in an Islamic state. I dont see anything wrong with this. Jizya is a material proof of the non-Muslims' acceptance of subjection to the Islamic state and its laws. In return, non-Muslim citizens is permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, to be exempted from military service and the zakat obligatory upon Muslim citizens.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan You don't see anything wrong with this? That's precisely the problem. No doubt the non-Muslims who know you think of you as a "moderate", when in fact you are a sickening individual, blindly following evil.
I hope people take notice of how you think and what that means for them in the future if your oppressive ideology isn't pushed back to the cave it came from.
limersbey 1 year ago 2
@limersbey sir, please tell me whats sickening about paying tax?
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan sir, it is not merely paying a tax which is sickening. It is the institutionalised discrimination against non-Muslims, women and anyone who wishes to openly criticise the Islamic system which is disgusting.
What if your testimony in a court was invalid against Christians? What if you were forbidden to hold authority over Hindus? What if you were killed for promoting Islam to Jews or wanting to build a Mosque? Stop playing dumb and wake up to what you are saying.
limersbey 1 year ago 2
@limersbey its not a discrimination. Muslims have to pay the zakat (obligated charitable donations) every year. Non-muslims have to pay the jizya tax.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
take a look this: What islam is not
/watch?v=M8KgLZtOnVY
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Lossmega 1 year ago
@Lossmega Yes, Islam is not just a religion, its a complete system on how to live this life. The video that u referred to me contains some truth and some lies/misunderstood concept of Islam.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan Did you ignore everything I said on purpose or are you just stupid? Non-Muslims must live under humiliating conditions which would outrage any Muslim were they subjected to the same treatment. Your hypocrisy is outrageous.
limersbey 1 year ago 4
@limersbey well, what sort of humiliating conditions? please give an example
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan Well the testimony of a non-Muslim against a Muslim is invalid in a criminal court under Shariah. Non-Muslims are not permitted to build new places of worship or repair old ones. No Church or Temple can be taller than a Masjid. Non-Muslims are not permitted to promote their religion to Muslims or to criticise Islam in any way. They are not permitted to hold any authority over Muslims. The Qisas for a non-Muslim is at least half that as for a Muslim.
Getting it yet Sherlock?
limersbey 1 year ago 5
@limersbey keep shariah where it belongs - in the grave of its creator.
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@syazwankhan "Muslims have to pay the zakat (obligated charitable donations) every year. Non-muslims have to pay the jizya tax."
Zakat is a pillar of YOUR cult. Why should other people be forced to mimic the cult you CHOOSE to be a part of?
deadinside8 8 months ago
@limersbey I couldn't be more in agreement with you sir! Islam = death.
KezefAdirion 9 months ago
@syazwankhan
islam is a religion of death and oppression.....
SenorElDano 1 year ago
Islam is responsible for more death,destruction and slavery than anything else to ever exist. Islam murdered over 270,000,000 non muslims before 1950. 70,000,000 hindus and 120,000,000 Africans that died during the muslim slave trade which did not end yetl The best thing to do is.......
STOP ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!!!!!
evianalmighty 1 year ago 2
@evianalmighty
I am not in disagreement with your numbers I would just like to see how they are added up.
Communism killed over 270 million in the last hundred years. which I found here:
Hawaii dot edu/powerkills
Thanks
OxAO 1 year ago
@OxAO I have all of the stats but need to find them. I will get back to you.
evianalmighty 1 year ago
this video is bullshit. fuck fox.
regjia 1 year ago
Dont judge Islam based on the actions of the bad/misguided Muslims. Read and understand the Qur'an first. The teachings of a religion lies within the book itself.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
It sure does. Your hole-y book advocates lying for islam. So tell me, how are we to know whether a muslim is ever telling us the truth, or if he or she even has a passing acquaintance with the truth? And aren't those 'peaceful' Medina verses abrogated by the violent Mecca ones?
islam: The Religion of Human Pieces and Flying Body Parts
tealeaf56 1 year ago
@tealeaf56 typical stereotype of so called "Islam" in the west. You seriously need to educate yourself about fundamentals of Islam before making any statement that will only make u sound stupid. Just go to wikipedia and search for Islam. Quite alot of info there.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan, I began to learn all I needed to know about islam on September 5, 1972. That lesson was brought home on 9/11/01. islam is a gutter 'religion', a political ideology no different from any other form of totalitarin government. If islam is so bloody wonderful (pun intended) and is so respectful of other religions, why are there no churches or temples located within the country that is the home base of islam?
We know islam, and we don't like it. Take your shari'a and shove it.
tealeaf56 1 year ago
@tealeaf56 Just to let u know, terrorism has no place in Islam. Those heartless terrorists hijacked Islam before they hijack any airplanes to carry out their brutal actions. Peace.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan, Fuck your peace.
Islam means submission, and I will not submit.
Oh, and no one hijacked islam. Pisslam is a murdering death cult founded by a pedophile caravan robber and mass murderer. How's praying in Mecca to a meteorite encased in a silver vagina working out for you? It sure isn't working out for us. Mecca should have been obliterated after 9/11. Muzzies are gonna be pissed off at the US no matter what we do, so why not?
Get the fuck over yourself.
tealeaf56 1 year ago 2
@tealeaf56 To be specific, it means submission to God. Up to u man if u want to insult Islam but nothings going to change the beauty of this religion. More and more people in the US are converting to Islam because they know how peaceful and beautiful Islam is. I dont blame u, its all the fault of heartless terrorists. We muslims are actually becoming the victim of terrorists so its not logic to say that we actually support them. Use your intelligence and think.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan, Geez, you muzzies. Full of dawah, taqqiya and lots of bullshit. islam is not beautiful, not for a dhimmi, or even for a musliminah (they being worth less than a man).
Just because lots of idiots want to be dominated and not have to think for themselves so they 'revert' to islam, well, there's this old saying: Eat shit. 11 billion flies can't be wrong.
If pisslam is so peaceful, why kill over khartoons? Why keep repeating the word 'peace' as if that makes it true?
tealeaf56 1 year ago
@tealeaf56 So tell me what do u know about dawah, and taqqiya?. Dont make statements if u dont even know what you are talking about. Any proof from the quran that Islam view muslimah as worthless than a man? "Eat shit. 11 billion flies can't be wrong" You eat shit? I feel sorry for u.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan, Like communism and national socialism, I want the ideology islam gone from the face of the earth. Feel sorry for me all you want.
Just remember: There are no muslims in Star Trek, or in Babylon 5, though Babylon 5 did have Jews. That should get you seething. Can I get a good seethe from you? Maybe a suicide bombing? Or even a simple stoning? Maybe hang a homosexual or two?
dawah = islamic proselytizing
taqqiya = muslim bullshit
allah is not God; Jesus was crucified.
tealeaf56 1 year ago
@tealeaf56 Lol. so what if theres no muslim in star trek, babylon 5 or whatever it is? Suicide bombing is totally against Islamic teachings. Get your facts straight. You are humiliating yourself. You are too influenced by the actions of so called "muslim" terrorists shown in the media. Btw, you got dawah right, but taqqiya you are not specific enough. I dont think u know the actual meaning of it. Educate yourself before insulting. So you're a christian huh?
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan,
muslim bullshit isn't specific enough? How cute. As for the so-called muslim terrorists, they are not terrorists, they are good faithful muslims. Period. It is your 'theology' that encourages suicide killings as that act provides an entry to the whorehouse that is muslim 'paradise'. Me a Christian? You assume much. But then you are a muslim, and you assume pisslam is a religion when in fact it's a murderous death cult.
You are full of taqqiya, that is, you are full of shit.
tealeaf56 1 year ago 3
@tealeaf56 I know my religion better than u do. Terrorist are not good faithful muslims, they are the black sheep among muslims. Period. U dont have any proof from the Quran to support your statement that Islam encourages suicide bombing.
“And do not kill yourselves, God is merciful with you. And whosoever does that (kills self) with aggression and inequity, we will make them suffer in Hell fire, and this is easy for God to do” (Qur'an 4 : 29-30)
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
But if you kill infidels then this verse is abrogated and you get into heaven... muslim fool...
Vangrungy 1 year ago 2
@Vangrungy We are only allowed to fight infidels who fight us, trying to stop us from practicing our religion freely and trying to drive us out from our homes. "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)", "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan (Sahih Muslim, Book 40, Number 6985), if a Jew seeks refuge under a tree or a stone, these objects will be able to speak to tell a Muslim: “There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him!”
[9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
XanALaOM00 1 year ago
@XanALaOM00 Another non-muslim quoting verses out of context again. Please. Stop making a fool out of yourself.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
said, "I know my religion better than u do. "
Islam isn't a religion it is a Iqamat-ud-Deen. knowing how well you understand Islam.
You might want to look that up.
OxAO 1 year ago
@OxAO Yes. Islam is not just a religion, its a way of life.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
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said, "Yes. Islam is not just a religion, its a way of life."
exactly. it is a political system it is a legal system it is a banking system it is a theocracy.
No type of theocracy is compatible with western civilization.
OxAO 1 year ago
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@syazwankhan a way of life alright......... let me ask you.... do you condemn Hamas?
XanALaOM00 1 year ago
@syazwankhan ohh so you're saying that when Jihadist invoke the very parables of the likes of Koran 9:29 that they are just Islamaphobes? or that they are "misrepresenting Islam?" maybe instead of casting Islam as a religion of peace you should actually state just where these Jihadists' are wrong? they are making the statements, and yet there is no Muslim Outrage... yet when a cartoon of Muhammad is put in a news paper.... what do you know...... you got Muslim outrage. what a crock....
XanALaOM00 1 year ago
@XanALaOM00 "Jihadist invoke the very parables of the likes of Koran 9:29 that they are just Islamaphobes?" Those so called "Jihadist" was brainwashed by some violent minded militant groups. They hijacked Islam and quote the Quran out of context to support their violent actions.
syazwankhan 1 year ago
@syazwankhan
Your verses are Abrogated... You are a fraud...
Vangrungy 1 year ago
@Vangrungy its not abrogated, its substituted
syazwankhan 1 year ago
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@syazwankhan Well then did Muhammad have it wrong when he said he had been made victorious through terror? Perhaps he was the one who hijacked Islam to begin with and the rest of the Muslims who do the same are only following his example.
cunamarra 1 year ago
Fox News drivel, I suppose they think liberals really think like that.
MEpianist 1 year ago
@MEpianist Look at the Nidal Hassan case. Jeraldo talking about a tooth ache, Matthews asking if religion may have played a role and then defending Hassan about the fact he called Al Qaida "It's not illegal to call Al Qaida, is it?" Yes, it seems ridiculous, but intelligent people really do think that way. I think it's terrible, but it's for real.
TomerMMHA 1 year ago
@TomerMMHA Well I'm a liberal and I don't imagine that the terrorists that have declared war on us for any reason other than pan-Islamic radicalism, based in Qutbism and Muslim Brotherhood ideology. I just think, unlike Fox News watchers, that we shouldn't trash our freedoms in the process of responding. I think anyone who laughs at this drivel needs to get out more and find out what a liberal is, you won't learn about us from Rush.
MEpianist 1 year ago
@MEpianist I agree with your last point. I think that one shouldn't paint every single liberal with the same brush, just like liberals shouldn't paint all conservatives as Michael Savage who wants to bomb the desert into glass.
Again, you haven't answered my point about Matthews and Geraldo. Or those who call many attacks by Islamists "isolated incidents". I think this video correctly portray some people on your side, but not all. You certainly seem more sensible than many in your side.
TomerMMHA 1 year ago
@TomerMMHA Well I don't have to defend those incidents... I'm actually more irrational and strident than most liberals, but what happens on YouTube is it quickly degenerates into ad hominems and you both come away thinking the other side isn't "sensible." I would argue that very few liberals, mostly young high school posers, actually think we aren't in a war with jihadists. But that doesn't mean we give up our rights, torture people, etc... that's where the debate starts.
MEpianist 1 year ago
not all Muslims are evil terrorists, many don't their Koran and the Hadith enough to practice Islamist supremacist doctrines as commanded by their prophet and their god.
ero06 1 year ago
yes evil muslims they cant be human beings all 1.5 BILLION muslim are this bad i wonder why we are still alive now LOL u r a fucking idiot if u believe that
CaligirlSofia 2 years ago
Radical Islam is the new Communism: revolution and social engineering for angry people who want simple solutions to complex problems.
r5t6y7u8 2 years ago 2
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historyscoper 2 years ago 4
dogharton, just google dearborn michigan & islam, this will clear up any of your delusional misunderstanding of islam & how peaceful they r, its only a matter of time b4 they start more trouble in the US. google it & watch the clip.
49fargo 2 years ago 5
Doghardton, explain to me please, the Muslims obsession (and the obsession of all totalitarian ideologies like Nazism) with the Jew? There seems to be truth to the old addage that anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools.
MojaveViper29 2 years ago 8
It's the Koran. The Koran says Jews are the sworn enemy of Muslims, so Jews have always been and will always remain on the muzzie shit-list.
Islam: Tunneling at rocket speed to the core of Planet Stupid.
DeathToAllReligions 2 years ago
"Death"......Islam's general hatred of the Jew predates ZIonism and the State of Israel by many centuries. Before Islam, Jews and Arabs got along very well, shared many customs, and had much in common.
Islam introduced "god's will" into hatred of other groups (Jews, Christians, and of course "idolatrous" sects such as Buddhism and Hinduism, which faced utter extermination under Islamic rule, at least at first).
MojaveViper29 2 years ago
I lived in Saudi Arabia for four years. Spare me the lesson in sandnigger 101.
DeathToAllReligions 2 years ago
Hahahahaha funnies clip ever, definitely made my day. God bless American television.
fiskmask 2 years ago 14
i cant beleive how satanic america is. how can you talk about somthing like this on the news mocking a whole entire nation of ppl across the world, i have now realised fox news is run by jews and they want to use the media to make americans hate islam. in london u will never see a tv programme devoted to hating christianity or muslim etc. also what about the millions of muslims living in the u.s,,the world has gone mad!! and this type of behavior is not normal
doghartdon 2 years ago
@doghartdon, how can anybody can take you seriously..you have supposedly condemned "generalizing" of whole group of people..and then do the same thing yourself..You do not have a moral strrength, you see only when it hurts you...poor baby
Kbrt111 2 years ago 4
i never replyd to yur other question cos it was a bullshit question, i do not generelise jews,,all i hate is zionists who control the media, america is satanic and zionist are too, zionists give jews a bad name and islam too.
doghartdon 2 years ago
you are backpedalling...you have posted: fox news is run by jews """ # 1. it is a lie, Murdoch - is a Scott , but that is irrelevant #2. This clip is a result of actions by some Muslims and Medias refusal to call a spade a spade.
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
#3.You calling it abnormal? Well, If you were NORMAL Western Person (American Brit, etc) --you would be concern why some Muslims feel justified to kill inside of our countries to which they were allowed to come and be equal citizens. That what a normal citizen would be concerned with, Muslim or Non-Muslim alike....Yet, the only thing you are concern that this clip exposes facts, the true facts by the way --that Muslims committing acts of terror in the countries that have accepted them
Kbrt111 2 years ago 3
stop talking shit , the muslism are pissed offf at america for funding israel! again the zionist hide this informatiion,,anyway please no more questions and dont reply u ppl have been brainwashed and its too late theres no hope for u anymore
doghartdon 2 years ago
oh poor babies, Jews did it again , gee..."" stop talking shit """--forgot to ask your permission ...and you right ""theres no hope for u anymore"" - so enjoy the West, since it aint going to last for you
Kbrt111 2 years ago 6
@doghartdon If you ask me the Qur'an itself gives Islam a bad name. For instance its over 100 quotes telling the Muslims to kill all infidels.
billyslo87 2 years ago 4
no it doesnt, the quran says if sombody trying to fight u then u must fight back,the jews(zionist) have brainwashed u through the american media! this video being an example, notice on fox news they never talk positive about islam, ask yurself why
doghartdon 2 years ago
"notice on fox news they never talk positive about islam, ask yurself why"
Er ... perhaps because there is nothing positive about Islam. The only "positive" things were stolen from other religions anyway.
EarnestBergholt 2 years ago 6
Yeah, sure. Mohammed engaged in over 70 wars and conquered Arabia, Persia, Palestine, etc, just because he was defending himself.
EarnestBergholt 2 years ago 6
Yes EarnestBergholt not to mention Muslim conquests of Spain, France, Anatolia, North Africa and India.
They were all self defensive actions you see. The Muslims were simply defending themselves against people who have never heard of them, living in countries thousands of miles away from Arabia.
lshatok 2 years ago 30
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u must be a jew i know it you are a jew!
doghartdon 2 years ago
Is that all you got? LOL
lshatok 2 years ago 4
oh no! it was a cardiac virus called 'peace' which spread whenever Mohammed and his followers sneezed. It spread like swine flu and made many hearts soft and compassionate like that of Osama bin Laden.
MrNostradamus2009 2 years ago
if u think all muslims are evil then u r a fucking idiot
CaligirlSofia 2 years ago
Oh it's probably all those suicide bombings, beheadings, genocide and carnage that makes MOST people disgusted with Islam. It's not Fox news doghartdon its the Muslims,
lshatok 2 years ago 5
That's called free speech buddy, and we in America still have it. The Brits are now sorry they traded in theirs for the political correctness.
lshatok 2 years ago
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Islam is the true religeon i dont lie. type in ,,,,,,,,see these miracles and you will convert to islam for sure
doghartdon 2 years ago
That has got to be the lamest comment on youtube I have seen. Congratulations, your mind programming has been complete.
lshatok 2 years ago
@doghartdon, a Russian Ortodox Priest who has many videos here on YouTube about Islam & Mohamed , in russian , was killed today by a Muslim... That is Your fucken "true religion" that feels it is entitled to kill people and for what ? for expressing their opinion..You Muslims dont belong in the civilized world and you will force us, Non-Muslims , to get rid of your Islam...together with you..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 7
You are illiterate to Islam and history and this is apparent through your answers that avoid the question. Keep googling Quran violence to find some things you can regurgitate. In a debate your arguments will have no substance and you will fail, as you do with everything else you do in your measly life.
Heres something to get you going
Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Here is proof Al-Qaeda is a response to western imperialism. Osama bin Laden has been calling for Jihad against the USA since 1990. During this time he made various videos and speeches calling for attacks on the USA, during this time there was several operations against US targets. He never once mentioned the UK and from 1990-2001 there was never any attacks, plots or incitement to attack the UK by Muslims, all these things only happened after the UK joined the USA in war against Muslim lands.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
so you saying that we should treat Muslims as enemies inside? since they heed Osama's call- how should we treat Muslims?
Kbrt111 2 years ago 5
I am saying, incidents like 9/11 7/7 or the Madrid bombings are a result of western policies that do the same and much worst to different countries and for a sustained period of time. Just because the media ignores, and we never see the photos of the carnage and F16 does to a town, and we never see the photos or hear the names of those killed by the west, does not mean does not happen.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
LoL....I could argue on all your bullshit points about F16s and your statement that the terror acts by Muslims are results of Western policies.. there were others , who had real grievances with USA and never done terror acts :
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
Vietnamese , who suffered millions of deaths at the hands of American military never undertook to kill American civilians, Latin Americans --who were treated like children and mistreated by American corporations ,Japanese who were nuked and who had hundred of thousands of Japanese in USA , all of them never undertook to kill American Civilians
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
And I am not talking here about the reasons Americans were in Vietnam or nuked Japan, just to bring the fact that only Muslims feel that they have the God given right to kill and justify the killing
Kbrt111 2 years ago 3
Ohh, so its OK for America to massacre and rape but not OK for people to defend themselves or retaliate, talk about fascism. Lol, and did the Vietnamese stand back and let US soldiers massacre, carpet bomb, napalm and rape Vietnamese or did they fight back? Yes most of the world has been oppressed by the US. Either directly, through proxy, economic bullying, or the USA keeping/putting into power corrupt despot leaders, or punishing people for having leaders that do not play ball with the US.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
I am not going to argue about Vietnam here, there were good reasons why US end up being there ..But I like your fight back.. As those Muslims who blew Brits on 7/7 , declaring themselves soldiers in the war and went on conducting their war on the the streets of London against people who are told afterwards, that those Muslims are just misguided kids. .
Kbrt111 2 years ago
They and you mean as "fight back" --is being an American or British or Spanish Citizen.. enjoying all the rights and privileges as citizens , telling all and everybody that you are peaceful community and then killing people who just going about their business?
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
And then ,when Muslims are disliked as result and looked upon as not trustworthy Muslims call everybody Islamophobe!! That is your fighting back.. I have no problems with Muslims being against the policies of the West, fine ,I have no desire to start explaining to them how wrong they are , but then collect your integrity and get the fuck out of here ..But you are staying , and some of you are planning more killings ..talking about having both ways..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
Mamoderawat. regardless of any spin you put , Islam is an ideology with the self-delusional entitlement to the domination of the World with the 7th century desert dogma... All those who dont follow Islam- are viewed as infadels...--enemies of Allah and there is no mercy to the enemies of Allah ..Christians from Middle Ages would understand that , Jews from times of Moses would understand that --
Kbrt111 2 years ago
but we ,people of 21 century , attempting to call your sick piece of shit ideology --a religion of piece....and paying the price for it..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
yeah thats great mate.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
unfortunetly)) for all of us
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Unfortunate for the 50000 Iraqi kids killed by US sanctions that deprived them of medicine, food and other basic necessities. Unfortunate for the 800000 Iraqis killed, 1000000 maimed and displaced due to the imperialistic US invasion. Unfortunate for the 1000000s raped in the mountains for Afghanistan in the most underreported war crime ever, by US military and the war gangs they back. Unfortunate for the millions of Vietnamese killed or born deformed, or the Latins and others who have suffered
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Look , all what you have posted is spin again , USA troops are not after killing kids, deprive people of medicine and the rest ..Islam has conquered, raped, killed and imposed itself long time before USA even has existed..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
The motivation to blow Westerners up comes from Islam itself . The policies of the West, which sometimes are mistakes or even evil, regardless if they were intended to be that or not --still, are just a cover for many Muslims to justify their hate and that entitlement , both of which have preceded the very existence of the Contemporary Western World ---..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Lol, your one deluded person. Ok, show me how unprovoked attacks are permissible in Islam!!!
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Look at how structuring sentences, look at your posting (emphasis is mine) :.. show me how UNPROVOKED attacks are permissible in Islam!!! ....poor Muslims, always somebody did it to them!!! They themselves obviously can not distinguish what is right and what is evil... ..Poor Islam!!! it is always provoked!!!!!
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
and this is why they have the right to kill and impose..Gee..And if I to bring up to you historical facts clearly demonstrating the ugly aggressive imposing nature of Islam on the rest of humanity whats then? You going to change your mind and drop on following that crap called Islam??? Of course not , because you are brainwashed not to have critical thinking but to follow the Muslim dogmas which supposedly are from God Himself!! Riiiiiiight ...
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Your not answering the QUESTION!!! Show me how Islam tell its followers to attack non-muslims. You seem to be an expert so come one then.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Instead of resorting to petty insults and accusations, show me where Islam permits the unprovoked killing of non-muslims.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
The whole history of Islam , from the day one of its existence 1400 years ago --demonstrates its self-bestowed entitlement that it has the right to impose itself..Within first 100 years of its existance the armies of this ""peacefull"" religion somehow end up being in France..It is so "peacefull"" that we have today Instambul and not Constantinopole...
Kbrt111 2 years ago 3
The largest Church in the World --was quickly converted into a Mosque, by these ""pecefull and respecting other religions "" Muslims. I could go on and on..It is irrelevant...400 years ago Non-Muslims came to conclusion that only Secular states can be just states and now , with the influx of Muslim immigrants , back to squere one--dealing with the religious dogmas ..
Kbrt111 2 years ago 3
Again your using intangible non statistical opinions, that you are simply regurgitating from what you hear without really knowing anything, about Muslims. Whether its true or not, I am asking about Islam, the acts of a Muslim can fall outside of Islam for example if he/she drinks. So your talk as if you are a schooled and knowledgeable man, so tell me how does Islam mandate the killing of non-muslims please answer using things taken from Islam, i.e Quran, that should give u something to google.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
something to google and regurgitate, as you obviously lack the ability to think for yourself and derive opinions from your own research.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
It is the obligation of Muslims to read and follow their Quran...I dont givah shit what is written there, although I am sure there are plenty of hateful garbage in that book..
The only true denominator of everything is the reality and actions of followers , in this case Muslim actions.. ..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
I would not waste my time on ramblings of some desert megalomaniac from 7th century.. .... at the end of it all , I dont care what is written there, let it be written there that a Muslim should kill a Non-Muslim in the morning before he eats his breakfast, but if in life , a Muslim conducts himself as a person who lives and let's live --I will consider him a fellow Western Citezen..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Let say Quran states: to love your enemies, and yet the Muslims running around the world with the foam on their mouths with their entitlements and justifications for their ugly actions --I wil consider him a throwback , a person who does not belong in the free society , an enemy ..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
I, as other Western individuals, done my duty towards you as a Muslim.
I , as others, respect your right to practice your religion freely without fear and intimidation and be an equal citizen as the rest...Live and let live...It does not mean that I have to respect your believes and learn about them...
Kbrt111 2 years ago
I do not know anything about Sikhs --I givah shit what they believe, as long as they keep it to themselves..Now , your duty is to keep your religion exactly to yourself, and be a citizen loyal to our Western Values
Kbrt111 2 years ago
..If you feel it conflicts with your Islam --get the fuck out here..that is it.. But do not expect me , as a person from 21 st century, to respect your Islam where for one example only : your Allah acts more like the Pimp of the Universe distributing virgins to murderes than the Divinity.
Kbrt111 2 years ago
You say that as if it is a fact, so then Islam must be right according to your own words.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Very easy mamoderawat.
Alll of the schools of Islam that are considered orthodox teach, as part of the obligation of the Muslim community, warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers.
lshatok 2 years ago
Shafi'i school: A Shafi'i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University in Cairo, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates that the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians...until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.
lshatok 2 years ago
E.g "Kill the unbelievers" is often quoted by people like you who ignore the justifications from the same verses. Those to kill are enemy combatants, as when these verses were revealed the Muslims did not kill the non-muslims in Medina where the verses were revealed, or those in Makkah after defeating the Makkan army. This was unheard of for a victorious army to walk into the city they had taken and not massacre the civilian population.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
You're right. According to Muhammad, there is no need to kill the infidel, so long as he either converts to Islam or, if he wishes to remain a Jew or a Christian, is subdued into inferior status under Islamic rule. Islam is very kind like that. As long as it dominates, death and destruction are not inevitable.
EarnestBergholt 2 years ago
@EarnestBergholt, yeah, similar to the times, when blacks had accepted their inferiour status to white plantation owners...I bet those owners thought of themselves that they are good and peacefull people..and there was ""peace""
Kbrt111 2 years ago
@EarnestBergholt Oh yes lets not forget that the women take inferior status. Such as if w woman is raped she has to produce 4 male witnesses that testify that they saw it and if a man claims that one of his wives has been unfaithful he has an immediate divorce in his favor and if they decide that the woman has been unfaithful then she can be executed. And if that is your definition of kind then I want no part of it. Thats not even what they are supposed to do to people of other religions.
billyslo87 2 years ago
Dude, I was joking. There is nothing kind about Islam. It is discriminatory, depraved, deranged and diabolical.
EarnestBergholt 2 years ago 6
---..YOU KNOW IT , I KNOW IT, AND MAJORITY KNOWS IT but we live in the world where we cannot call things by their true names. .But that will end one nice day..Muslims, whith their actions , will ensure that, regardless how strongly our politicians in the West will try to deny it
Kbrt111 2 years ago 3
VonStierlitz 2 years ago 3
Copy and paste the following into your youtube search bar.
Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 1: Prophet Muhammad and rise of Islam (full; PBS Documentary)
There is a lot of judgement towards Islam, even when people act against it, and all people from the Muslim world are wrongly assumed to have a homogenous level of belief to Islam. What people do is only a part of Islam if it falls within the framework of Islam, set out during the time of the prophet, see for yourself/
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Mamoderawat, you as a typical Muslim do not see or do not understand , or do not want to understand, or lying that the first and foremost issue with Islam most of Non-Muslims have is the fact that Islam has self- bestowed upon itself (or actually Mohamed did that ) this self-delusional entitlement to rule over all of us , Muslims and Non-Muslims alike. ..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
When we see the interference in our lives from Islam , we take a look at Islam ..And then we see this backward primitive and most importantly a totalitarian garbage fancying itself that it has the right to order us..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
Possibly Hindu religions is crap , I am sure it has funny and stupid aspects to it (never read about it , and do not want to ) , I am sure Orthodox Jews and Sikhs have stupid , funny regulations, possibly Christian Hetorites Mennonites and the rest of religions have aspects that a normal Western Person would consider idiotic. .
Kbrt111 2 years ago
but all of that does not matter to us --who subscribe to the principle ""live and let live"".. Because all those rules that Hindus, Orthodox Jews,Sikhs, Christian Hetorites Mennonites and the rest (except Muslims ) have apply only to the followers of those religions and they are not looking to bestow them on the rest of society.
Kbrt111 2 years ago 2
But not with Muslims and Islam..It is not enough for Muslims that they have all the rights everybody else has, it is not enough that they can practice their religion freely in our Non-Muslim world, Muslims demand that we respect and obey by their religious dogmas..
Kbrt111 2 years ago
I givah shit what Islam came up with or did not come up with 600 years ago..But I do care , that my fellow citizen (who happened to be Muslim) would share the same major values that our Liberal Western Society has ..And that Muslim citizen does not and that , at the end , will destroy Islam in the West.
Kbrt111 2 years ago
For you to be able to name the events over the past 200 years shows how relatively limited they are. Now anything done by anyone from the Muslim world is attributed to Islam, regardless of the persons motivation. They are to many to name, but British Empire throughout the world, WW1, WW2, French, Spanish and Italian occupations and wars etc far worst and more numerous than anything coming from the Muslim world.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
All the alleged miracles of the Koran evaporate on even the most superficial of inspections. There's simply nothing there. No exact terminology, no details, nothing that could make it the least bit plausible as a scientific insight. And that's actually true for all those so-called miracles. A miracle is an event reported by someone who didn't see it.
Head gear wrapped too tight!
brokenscimitar 2 years ago 3
Moslems will bring up the crimes of the West, especially the Crusades. The fact is that the Crusades were waged to counter the Seljuk advance on Byzantium and the atrocities inflicted on Christians and Jews in the Holy Land. The Crusades were waged during a period of time when life in general was totally barbaric. This barbarism is unimaginable to modern Western sensibilities, but still considered absolutely reasonable by Moslems.
brokenscimitar 2 years ago 3
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Had the Crusades not been waged, had the Habsburg monarchy not turned back the Ottoman tide at the end of the 17th Century, had Isabel of Castile not driven the Moors from Grenada, you would not be reading this diatribe. You would be illiterate, ruled by a tyrant, and squatting on the dirt floor of a mud-brick shack picking your nose.
brokenscimitar 2 years ago
Had the Crusades not been waged, had the Habsburg monarchy not turned back the Ottoman tide at the end of the 17th Century, had Isabel of Castile not driven the Moors from Grenada, you would not be reading this diatribe. You would be illiterate, ruled by a tyrant, and squatting on the dirt floor of a mud-brick shack picking your nose.
brokenscimitar 2 years ago 3
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The Islamic Golden Age or the Islamic Renaissance, is traditionally dated from the 9th to 15th centurie. During this period, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders in the Islamic world contributed to the arts, agriculture, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology, both by preserving earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Sorry, but this is total bullshit.
Enslaving and islamizing "infidel" cultures and then claiming their achievemnts as "islamic" can't hide the fact that Islam itself has produced nothing of a value in all 1400 years.
Islam is an expansionist militant culture of social parasitism, dogmatism, primitivism, backwardness, hatred and genocide. Hostile to sciences and arts, intellectually and morally dishonest to the core, psychologically disturbed and insecure, Islam is a degradation of humanity.
VonStierlitz 2 years ago 7
And here's an example of "muslim poetry"
in an Urdu-language magazine that owes its allegiance to the Sunni militant organization Jaish-e-Muhammad:
Then We Will Go Inside America, We Will Blow up the Earth of New York; By Using the Plough of Jihad We, We Will Eliminate the Infidels from Earth
(November 12, 2009)
This is a typical Islamic "contribution" to the world. But somehow, the ungrateful "infidels" aren't impressed.
VonStierlitz 2 years ago 2
Second paragraph, Von - Succinct, precise and too the point!
Well said.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 3
I agree with you, they believe all what they stole form others was really their invention. How could a gang of warlords commanded by an illiterate camel dealer achieve anything from death, conquer and destruction?
asunagullo 2 years ago 3
mamo, what did they contribute?
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 2
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Contributed to Medicine, science, architecture, administration, mathematics and much more, think of the words that begin with Al, eg ALgebra, ALchemy etc. It was a Muslim that estimated the circumference of the earth and came within 300 miles of todays estimate, He did this without satellites or even a full map of the world, all done by angles from a hill and the horizon. WAKE and stop being ignorant. I accept TODAY the muslim world is retarded, and the West carries the torch of advancement.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
Algebra was based on an ancient Babylonian system of quadratic equations and the ancient Egyptians pioneered chemistry some 4000 years ago.
Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference to within a 1% error in 240BC, along with the tilt of the Earth's axis. he also did this without satellites, GPS or even being conquered by islam.
YOU "WAKE" and stop being ignorant.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 4
You are the first person I've herad saying this.People simply don't know or they don't want to know. BTW the so called "Arabic innumeracy" is actually "Indian innumeracy"... Muslims spread it all along the world, but Indians created the system :-)))
asunagullo 2 years ago 3
Indian numerals indeed - although we do use the Arab symbols.
The Hindus came up with the concept of zero, without which modern mathematics would not function
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago
Heh! In the same way muslims have contributed to AL Gore, ALcoholism, ALarmism, ALlergy, ALpinism, ALligators, ALfa-Romeo cars and ALbanian drug cartels.
VonStierlitz 2 years ago 3
They didn't contribute to Architecture at all, I am an architect; I am Spanish and I have studied it.. they just "decorated" the Christian structures and used our concepts... Architecture is not decoration.... They even used our "latin cross plan" for some of their mosques.-))))))...while they distroyed all Christian Churches and used the columns for their Mosques..that is why you can find stories of the bible in the capitals of the comuns of the Cordoba Mosque!!!
asunagullo 2 years ago 3
So minarets are a Christian thing? Which was more tolerant to different religions. The Muslim rule or that of Ferdinand and Izabella? You can find stories of the Bible in Mosques because they transfered from mosques to churches and then back again. Izabella despite hating Muslim was influenced by Islamic art and architecture. Spain has 4 types of people those indifferent to the past, those who deny and hate Islam, those who hate Islam but accept and those still fascinated by the Muslim past.
mamoderawat 2 years ago
In addition to jizya, Moslem pogroms in ME:
Aleppo (1850,1875), Damascus (1840,1848,1890), Beirut (1862,1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844,1890,1901-02), Mansura (1877) Alexandria (1870,1882,1901-07), Port Said (1903,1908), Damanhur (1871,1873,1877,1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864) Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868) Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874) Baghdad in 1828,Barfurush 1867, Hebron 1926, Zfat 1926
Just the last 200 years.... Tolerance??? Bullshit!
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 3