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  • I didn't see this guy adjusting his waist or shoulder straps on his pack, it looks like he just threw it on. Also, I noticed his helmet strap was already closed when he put it on, so that's telling me his helmet is not secure on his head. So, although he "packed up" in 21 seconds, he's not "packed up" properly to go "inside". The academy gave us 60 secs for the air-pack practical and the pack was not turned on and our jackets and hood was off. If you didn't adjust those straps, you fail.

  • Monday morning armchair quarterbacks are out in force it seems.

  • Haha dude u didn't check for a seal or say ur psi or pass or low pressure but that was fast

  • he didnt check either of the gauges (which is included in the timed trial for the official NFPA test) and you always check your gauges no matter what just before use, it fine to check your guages in the " morning check" but for your own saftey you should is to code to recheck your gauges just before donning the pack. alot can happen to a pack between the "morning check" and its use

  • Guarantee he did not turn his bottle fully on, risky move. Good habit is ALWAYS turn your bottle all the way on. Seal checks, I agree they are NOT necessary. More a precaution for yourself, far as a drill goes, still a good habit to have though. I train all the rookies in our hall to ALWAYS check their seal. All depends on departments SOG's though.

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  • @cml02200 Did you even watch the video? You can't be serious... if so, you should have someone show you what a regulator is, because it seems to me like you have no idea. The regulator is certainly NOT already attached to the mask.

  • @cml02200 should do that in the morning check....and 10/10 times your mask is already hooked up(which is wasnt in the vid..terd)....and the real test is in the building not on an apparatus floor..nor on youtube commenting

  • Doing a seal test is just good practice, make sure you have straps tight enough, if not you have to restart. Also balaclava was up over the mask you now just cut your visibility in half. Other then that Nice.

  • Good job, man. Good driil. As for all of you flaming about how he skipped the seal check, etc,etc, there, in my opinion, is nothing wrong with skipping the seal check. Hell, in my FF-I and FF-II class, our training officer didnt even make us check our seals after we were fit tested. There is a time and a place for Sunday Morning Qaurterbacks, and this is not it.

  • @nsrailfann4life91 I seal check just for my own reassurance. Never know if someone screwed with it or dropped it or broke it somewhere and didn't tag it out of service. Some places are less disciplined than others with equipment upkeep and this can be an issue. Glad you enjoyed the video. There is another one with a 20 second time achieved as well and probably done better with less issues, which could be why nobody comments on that one :) .

  • not complete... pack was already turned on....depending on the pack..youd prob need bout 10 sec for the pack to be activated completely...

  • @ussrpycckuu Please tell me what kind of pack needs 10 seconds to activate completely and what you mean by that. The pack was not already turned on. If you listened, you would have noticed that the low air alarm sounds when he opens the valve meaning that it was not open before he started. If it had been turned on already there would have been air in the line and no low air alarm would have sounded. These packs do not have a integrated PASS device if that is what you are saying.

  • @TheMarineKid17 is what we call a 6-22. 6 months experience with a 22 yr experience attitude...

  • im a firefighter inst for our academy and he failed one he did not check his air pressure automatic fail NEVER ASSUME THE PACK IF FULL the hood can not cover the face mask it has to just cover the rubber seal around the mask showing NO skin this reason is because when you sweat your hood will sag and cover ALL your face mask and that is not good other then that he did great and yes im a VOL and was DOD so i don't take sides good video

  • @firefighteremt911 Considering we ran this drill over a hundred times with the same pack, we knew what the pressure was. You will also notice that after the pack is on he checks the shoulder gauge on his right and states "tank half full". I have never heard of or experienced a hood sagging from sweat if its on your visor. If your helmet is on tight & proper, your mask should be held in place and not move. He has limited visibility, yes, But that is not a fail.

  • @firefighteremt911 assuming he did his daily daily he would have already checked his scba and everything else and seen he had air and that all bells and whistles and hoses were working fine. when i did my fire training that was the verry first thing we did every day was do our daily dailys is what we called them or our check of all our gear and scbas before we started with anything else just like you should on an actual FD.

  • Anyone on this video who is a firefighter and is arguing with someone else should be ashamed. Ignore peoples ignorance and represent yourself how you should.

  • @ParaDiceYall Don't mistake arguing for educating. I agree that any firefighters on this video should represent themselves well by not resorting to profane talk and insults for no reason. But ignoring ignorance can ultimately cost lives, as well. There is nothing wrong with debate and educating those who are ignorant so that they can re-evaluate themselves and maybe go back and "relearn" what they think they already know.

  • Wow must say with the comments. That the paid firefighters seem to think that they no more then us volunteer fire fighters. So i suppose then that the fires they fight are as mentioned above Proffesional Fires , And the ones us t-shirt volunteer fire fighters are a fire of not the same level. However being on mutual aid calls with paid companies and doing my training in the same academy back when along side paid fire fighters wasnt aware that we learning differant things at the same time. Wow!

  • @pacmanyoyoyo It's ok because we don't do the job for the money..... (i don't need to tell you that you already know)

  • @bubtrub1 I will respect your post because you admitted to being 15 and a two year cadet which may not qualify you as a master of fire. Keep it up friend. As far as over the head, no that's not required. That would be ridiculous to require everyone to throw a pack the same way. Only way u would fail is if u fail to wear your helmet while throwing a pack over your head.

  • @eh7fdboy Really? Then why did the low air alarm sound when he turned it on? Go learn more about SCBAs before trying to prove a video of one wrong...

  • The pack was all ready turned on before hand

  • I didn't really see the beginning to how he put it on, but I'm 15 and pretty sure your supposed to, our at least at our department supposed to throw it on over the head type method, check the seal (I've had a fail at training because I didn't do that), and I dont believe your tank was on all the way for qualifying breathing I suppose. If I'm wrong go ahead a correct me though I've only been doing this for 2 years as a cadet

  • That was quick and honestly who the fuck cares about the seal you tightened all your straps im sure there was a seal. Its just this isnt really impressive seeing as you didn't do all the things required by NFPA standards to pass the actual minute test.

  • great job, might be concerned with the over the head method with no bucket on tho

  • He didn't check his mask seal, without that seal all that oxygen in your tank runs straight out, he didn't open up his valve all the way, helmet wasn't tight, his 'back pack' method could have hurt himself or others...I'm sorry but this does not impress another Firefighter...this actually makes me feel uncomfortable. It might be 'working'...but there are so many things now that can go wrong other than just a few.

  • That was fast. Here in germany, we do some pressure checks before we're ready, might take 5 seconds more, but still damn fast !

  • good job :D

  • dude from LA dogged you.....

  • Everybody always criticizing can't we all just get along and enjoy wat we do

  • idiot didn't check your seal now if u would've done that and run into a burning building your ass would be dead fuckin stupid as fuck...plus never heard of just donning SCBA by time? Ive always donned all my PPE plus SCBA for a time...this guy..lol

  • @TheMarineKid17 You remind me of a t-shirt firefighter who probably has no knowledge beyond what some volunteer chief has told you. Forgetting a seal check does not mean you will die in a fire... it means your likely-hood of a problem arising might increase slightly by not checking. You get fit tested for a reason.. and gear is checked and maintained for a reason. Pretty sure many FFs skip a seal check.. even the pros. Haven't heard of a FF death lately due to "seal check forgotten".

  • @IncoherentMouth ha im a Fire Fighter bro. both Volunteer and professional. The way I was taught in the Academy. Is if your in the fire to long and its not sealed your likely hood of smoke inhalation rises.

    I misworded it obviously, but don't call me a tshirt firefighter. dumbfuck. Its my passion. I started at 15 as a Jr Fire Fighter. So fuck off faggot

  • @TheMarineKid17 You certainly sound like a professional to me.... So you started last year and are 16 is what im gonna guess. If you were professional IAFF, you would not be a volunteer since you cannot be. Exactly what academy did you graduate from? They definitely taught you how to behave professionally and represent your brotherhood well. You sure you aren't still wearing your plastic red fire helmet, getting your fire education via youtube and google?

  • @IncoherentMouth Yeah I'm actually 20 years old. lmfao

  • @IncoherentMouth PWNED me im a full time firefighter he did perfectly fine good job props

  • Does his SCBA have enough air? Is it open? Without the tests you really don't know what there are going to happen.. Maybe he goes in the fire and he realise that he hasn't enough air. Try maybe not on the speed, but on the tactics. :)

  • @FireFightersKid well most fire depts have SCBA gear that has an alarm on it when you have 10 minutes of air left an alarm goes off on our SCBA gear on our masks we have whats called a "Heads up" mask theres lights on it and along witht he alarm the lights will flash. telling you.. get ur ass out. and get another team in.

  • @TheMarineKid17 lol.... alarm at 10 minutes left? as if the SCBA knows that you will use whats left in 10 minutes? The alarm does not sound based on a time frame... "idiot"... It sounds based on a level of air left, which is 25%... How long you can make 25% last is entirely up to how fit you are and how well your air conservation skills are. And you should be thinking about getting out long before your bell goes off.

  • @IncoherentMouth Indeed... everybody uses air differently and everybody should monitor their own and think about when they need to turn around, to get out in time. In the UK if a Firefighter isn't out prior to activation of their low pressure warning then somebody will be coming in to look for them, turning up back at the Entry Control board with a whistle sounding is extremely frowned upon and considered bad firemanship unless you turn up dragging a casualty!

  • @Noodle999 Yeah, the fire service in the states is starting to head that direction as well. They stressed air monitoring a lot during the academy and that your low air alarm should not be going off while still inside. It's a even bigger concern in commercial structures that are much larger. We refer to it as knowing where your "point of no return" is. It is never very good to give a radio report on team air with your bells ringing while up many stories and deep in the structure lol. It happens.

  • left out one of the most important parts the seal!

  • never checked his seal

  • @AyJBake yeah you're right, he does not.

  • there is a reason that the scba's are in the seats. Speed does not matter when putting all of it on. the only thing that matters is having all your gear on a call. when ur in a station and u get a call, u do not need to don an SCBA. u put that on when ur on the way to the call. Good job, but i just think speed drills with SCBA's r stupid.

  • @25Yankeesfan Speed drills are stupid? Then why is it a FF1 practicals skill sheet..... Odd.... This video is to show how it is to be done in FF1 practicals. Not a "true-to-life" exercise. Chill.

  • @IncoherentMouth is wisconsin the state test is full gear and scba is 2 minutes not just scba

  • @rawrnumber7 in Wisconsin* rather

  • @25Yankeesfan It all about the fun and bragin rights........

  • i call bs on this. so many things are wrong...bottle not all the way on, he never checks the bottle pressure, doesnt sinch straps on pack

  • @shatermask666 Bottle not all the way on?.... do you see it flying in the wind or something? Do you use this same pack? Do you know what "all the way on" even is? Whether you think it's BS or not, I would like to see you do it anywhere near as fast the same exact way. If this video is the "cheater way" then you should have no problem defeating this time with the same method, eh? When you go take your FF1 practicals, let me know what they say on "pre-tightening" the straps, too. If you ever do.

  • @IncoherentMouth yes thank you i have took my FF1 practicals and i use a scott 2216 psi bottle. they said and its in the book the bottle has to be turned all the way on. also the scba is supose to be in the state as if its being stored. this means all straps on scba pulled out and straps on face piece pulled out. and something else i noticed he never checked for a seal on his face piece.

  • @shatermask666 In which state did you take your FF1 practicals? The instructors in Washington State have said nothing about pre-tightening straps being an illegal maneuver. If you are going to have a FF throw on a SCBA in the "state as if its being stored" then you should be packing up off of the truck, not off the floor, right? Right. You are right about the seal check, however. Good catch.

  • @IncoherentMouth im in missouri and the rules may be differant from each state. and yeah your right about it should be on the truck but you know how the fire service is lol. but OUR book said that the straps have to be pulled all the way out.

  • nice video!! great job!! but I have one question... how much can you see if you pull your hood over the mask?? xD

    it just looks like... ;-)

  • All it is knolage of equiptment which is the most inportant part also for pride bets for cream and sodas for the station against other stations

  • @SKWASIGROCH i have no idea what you were trying to say there. your horrific inability to spell threw me off. one more time?

  • @SKWASIGROCH wtf did you just splurge out your mouth right there?... I cannot make any sense of this what-so-ever... i've tried... i've failed... please help

  • Where do u keep yours if u need them? up ur ass?

  • @SKWASIGROCH ROFLROFLROFL

  • @SKWASIGROCH ya

  • @SKWASIGROCH Its harder for us to forget our gloves and mask when they are up our ass... Where else would you keep them? Stupid question, bro.

  • @SKWASIGROCH what a jerk

  • By the way I wasn't trying to be a jackass by saying that.. im just messin.. but seriously- Like psychosk8r014 said.. We are a pure volunteer department that doesn't have the funding to provide all the things that YOU have the privilege of having. We could say the same kind of things about your video. But we take it for what it is - a non-practical speed test that doesn't simulate true-to-life donning. Throw from the truck. Not the floor.

  • LOL... this is how they do it for state testing, fruit cup.... Its not supposed to be realistic... When was the last time you did your state test?... never?

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  • only reason we do it the way we do is because we dont have a pocket in our coat for our mask or a glove strap for our gloves (working on that one.) we know we're not being totally realistic. if we were trying to be totally realistic we would start from inside the truck, walk around to the scba compartment on the side (or strap into a seat mounted one) and go from there. this is just for the sake of doing it for the state test more or less.

  • That would be nice if u went to a fire and your face peice was out of your bag, helmet and gloves were perfectly laying there for you. Try to do it realistic, good job though

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  • @SKWASIGROCH uh whats the difference between having the mask out of the bag on the floor, and gloves "perfectly" on the floor too.. opposed to you having your mask attached to your tit for easy access and your gloves perfectly in reach and you dont even have to bend down for them? its not like we are cheating and saving ourselves any time by not having your setup. Try beating our time doing it our way, see how easy it is then. If we cheat you should be able to blow us out of the water with it.

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