I cant believe this crap still pollutes the waves!! I served with Bell, he is a loyal friend and advocate for those of us, some of you have forgotten!!! Watch the vid clip (the full clip) and you will hear, he simply compares sports icons to true people they should emulate to be!!! Sgt Ellis
Furthermore, Bellavia has become somewhat of a crusader against calling people in sports "heroes". This is rather well documented. Please do the right thing, end the race baiting and just remove the video; it doesn't mean anything. He could have just as easily picked Larry Bird as Tiger Woods.
Then you're knowingly race baiting? I don't understand how you could portray someone who served with men of color as a racist for an analogy he often makes. He chose Tiger Woods...so what? He meant no malice by it. Do you not agree? He has had absolutely zero precedent that proves he is a racist, but plenty that suggests the opposite. This is just hurting the political process; making an issue of something that doesn't need to be.
SSG Bellavia served beside many people of color and nearly lost his life trying to get them out of a picture perfect ambush. He loved those men like he loved his sons. Ruiz, Pratt, Hall...all of them men of color. To say he is 'racist' is just plain lame. If anything, his time in the military taught him to be color blind. Stop the race baiting. I'm not exempting him because he was in the military; that's not an exemption. His comments simply did not have malice behind them. Period.
McCain could have known about Hagee if he had done a little research.
Hagee said Catholics are the great whore, Hitler was the hunter of Jews, God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans for a gay parade, Women on PMS is like radical Islamis. Just because he didn't make a racial statement against black people doesn't mean he is not racist.
those staements arent against any particular race,moron.how could they b racist?i didnt say he was perfect,i didnt say i agree with everything he says.but he isnt racist.another thing.how do think that Hitler wasnt the hunter of Jews?wut would u call him?
So now you want to start name calling. I figured it would come sooner or later. Anytime people don't have a good agrument they start name calling to cover up. Well that was your last post on this board. You have no idea what is and what is not racist and by the way "What do I call Hitler?" I call him a Terrorist.
When all the lame excuses and explanations start being posted, then I know the truth is striking a nerve. Of all the role models in the world he just happened to choose another interracial person.
Usually people who claim someone is ignorant and uninformed is mostlikely the one who is.
WOW!!!Belluvia is not a racist. i know the guy.(his dad was my dentist).he served alongside men of different races in Iraq and shows absolutely no bigotry towards them and he wouldnt disrespect them by saying something like that.his comment had nothing 2do with race.i hate it wen Obama supporters cry "RACISM!" wenever any1 says anything against Obama. u r the ones playing the race card. u r the racist.
His dad was my dentist, therefore you know him? Ok what is your excuse for the comment. Everytime someone comes up with a reason it is completely different for the last one. What does Tiger Woods have to do with politics?
i was saying that i met him through his dad wen he returned from Iraq.Woods doesnt have anything 2 do with politics.listen 2 the whole speech.he was talking about role models.u can call that a lame excuse if u like,but u cant deny the facts.
Well I have listen to the entire speech many times. It was a bad speech. He jumbled his words and did not make any sense at times. Never the less I found his comments to be offensive, not because I am black but because my children are mixed like Tiger Woods and like Barack Obama. Therefore Mr. Bellavia need to come forward and explain what HE was trying to say not random people on the U tube.
he already has explained wut he sed on local radio stations,but of course u wont hear bout that.yes,the speech sucked.the fact that he was stumbling through it shows that he just picked an example 4 a role model out of thin air.race had nothing 2 do with it. stop taking these statements and using them out of context.i have a question.u r obviously an Obama supporter.so how do u call these statements racist but wut Rev. Wright sed isnt?
McCain People! Every time McCain and his people can't explain their racism or McCain's racist pastors (endorsements he sought out) they shout Rev. Wright.
The fact that he was stumbling through his speech shows he is a bad speaker. Mr. Bellavia was reading his speech therefore it was written well in advance with forethought. Nice try putting out bogus information and false statements.
What racist statement did Rev. Wright make? You give me a factual quote and I will respond to it.
McCains racist pastors?name them!even if his speech was planned ahead of time,how does that make it racist!?!?thats wut i want 2 know from u.how do u know his comments were based on race?bout Wright.back in '03 he gave a sermon bout how the "white government" is oppressing blacks,he blames whites 4 the AIDS virus that it was some huge conspiracy 2 get rid of blacks(or something insane like that).and not only that,he is completely anti-American.saying that we deserved the attacks on 9/11.
Pastor Rod Parsley and Rev. John Hagee are the two racist preachers that McCain campaigned to get their endorsements.
As for racist statements of Rev. Wright, his statement was that the government sent drugs into the black neighborhood. It may not be true but it is not racist. He did not blame whites for Aids he blamed the government for Aids.
I asked you for factual statements, which you gave me none. When I quoted Bellavia at least it was a quote he actually made.
those guys arent his pastors,just supporters.Hagee isnt a racist.every year i attend a celebration he throws called "The Night to Honor Israel".McCain didnt except his endorsment anyway.u and i cant b talking bout the same Rev. Wright.his statements r blatently racist & anti-American& Obama calls him his spiritual father.u still didnt answer my question.how do u know Bellavias comments were based on race?ur the racist 4 even noticing that Bellavia picked a role model of mixed race.
How do I know Bellavia's comments were based on race? You are asking me to prove a negative. If you make a statement and a race of people are offended then the statements are racist. I don't know what Bellavia was trying to say I just know what he did say. When you say something that does not come out the way you ment it then you need to come out and clarify, explain and apologies for your statements.
just cuz u r offended doesnt make it racist.ur offended cuz u completely miss the point of wut hes saying.ive already told u hes explained himself on local radio stations.i dont know y his explanations havent been made more public,but until they r,i will defend a completely innocent man who doesnt deserve this bull.
As I said before McCain sought after those pastor's endorsments. Only after several racial statements did McCain reject the endorsments. We are talking about the same Rev. Wright you have been brainwashed by the media. The Media said Rev. Wright's statements were racist but no one ever said what statements were offensive to which race.
my point is that he obviously didnt know that bout those statements wen he sought their support.Obama should have disowned Wright immediately.also,if he was his spiritual father shouldnt Obama have known bout Wrights radical beliefs?...listen 2 the sermons then u will c that he is totally racist.the comments made by Hagee werent racist atall btw.
I cant believe this crap still pollutes the waves!! I served with Bell, he is a loyal friend and advocate for those of us, some of you have forgotten!!! Watch the vid clip (the full clip) and you will hear, he simply compares sports icons to true people they should emulate to be!!! Sgt Ellis
Vet4FallujahCJ 1 year ago
Furthermore, Bellavia has become somewhat of a crusader against calling people in sports "heroes". This is rather well documented. Please do the right thing, end the race baiting and just remove the video; it doesn't mean anything. He could have just as easily picked Larry Bird as Tiger Woods.
sneakyshadow02 3 years ago
The problem is he didn't say Larry Bird. Why because he wanted to take a swipe at Obama. The Video stay until after Super Tuesday.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
Then you're knowingly race baiting? I don't understand how you could portray someone who served with men of color as a racist for an analogy he often makes. He chose Tiger Woods...so what? He meant no malice by it. Do you not agree? He has had absolutely zero precedent that proves he is a racist, but plenty that suggests the opposite. This is just hurting the political process; making an issue of something that doesn't need to be.
sneakyshadow02 3 years ago
You can message me if you want to discuss this further. This doesn't seem to be the place to do it. Look forward to hearing from you.
sneakyshadow02 3 years ago
SSG Bellavia served beside many people of color and nearly lost his life trying to get them out of a picture perfect ambush. He loved those men like he loved his sons. Ruiz, Pratt, Hall...all of them men of color. To say he is 'racist' is just plain lame. If anything, his time in the military taught him to be color blind. Stop the race baiting. I'm not exempting him because he was in the military; that's not an exemption. His comments simply did not have malice behind them. Period.
sneakyshadow02 3 years ago
McCain could have known about Hagee if he had done a little research.
Hagee said Catholics are the great whore, Hitler was the hunter of Jews, God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans for a gay parade, Women on PMS is like radical Islamis. Just because he didn't make a racial statement against black people doesn't mean he is not racist.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
those staements arent against any particular race,moron.how could they b racist?i didnt say he was perfect,i didnt say i agree with everything he says.but he isnt racist.another thing.how do think that Hitler wasnt the hunter of Jews?wut would u call him?
RcnMarines 3 years ago
So now you want to start name calling. I figured it would come sooner or later. Anytime people don't have a good agrument they start name calling to cover up. Well that was your last post on this board. You have no idea what is and what is not racist and by the way "What do I call Hitler?" I call him a Terrorist.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
When all the lame excuses and explanations start being posted, then I know the truth is striking a nerve. Of all the role models in the world he just happened to choose another interracial person.
Usually people who claim someone is ignorant and uninformed is mostlikely the one who is.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
WOW!!!Belluvia is not a racist. i know the guy.(his dad was my dentist).he served alongside men of different races in Iraq and shows absolutely no bigotry towards them and he wouldnt disrespect them by saying something like that.his comment had nothing 2do with race.i hate it wen Obama supporters cry "RACISM!" wenever any1 says anything against Obama. u r the ones playing the race card. u r the racist.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
His dad was my dentist, therefore you know him? Ok what is your excuse for the comment. Everytime someone comes up with a reason it is completely different for the last one. What does Tiger Woods have to do with politics?
moviepromoters 3 years ago
i was saying that i met him through his dad wen he returned from Iraq.Woods doesnt have anything 2 do with politics.listen 2 the whole speech.he was talking about role models.u can call that a lame excuse if u like,but u cant deny the facts.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
Well I have listen to the entire speech many times. It was a bad speech. He jumbled his words and did not make any sense at times. Never the less I found his comments to be offensive, not because I am black but because my children are mixed like Tiger Woods and like Barack Obama. Therefore Mr. Bellavia need to come forward and explain what HE was trying to say not random people on the U tube.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
he already has explained wut he sed on local radio stations,but of course u wont hear bout that.yes,the speech sucked.the fact that he was stumbling through it shows that he just picked an example 4 a role model out of thin air.race had nothing 2 do with it. stop taking these statements and using them out of context.i have a question.u r obviously an Obama supporter.so how do u call these statements racist but wut Rev. Wright sed isnt?
RcnMarines 3 years ago
McCain People! Every time McCain and his people can't explain their racism or McCain's racist pastors (endorsements he sought out) they shout Rev. Wright.
The fact that he was stumbling through his speech shows he is a bad speaker. Mr. Bellavia was reading his speech therefore it was written well in advance with forethought. Nice try putting out bogus information and false statements.
What racist statement did Rev. Wright make? You give me a factual quote and I will respond to it.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
McCains racist pastors?name them!even if his speech was planned ahead of time,how does that make it racist!?!?thats wut i want 2 know from u.how do u know his comments were based on race?bout Wright.back in '03 he gave a sermon bout how the "white government" is oppressing blacks,he blames whites 4 the AIDS virus that it was some huge conspiracy 2 get rid of blacks(or something insane like that).and not only that,he is completely anti-American.saying that we deserved the attacks on 9/11.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
Pastor Rod Parsley and Rev. John Hagee are the two racist preachers that McCain campaigned to get their endorsements.
As for racist statements of Rev. Wright, his statement was that the government sent drugs into the black neighborhood. It may not be true but it is not racist. He did not blame whites for Aids he blamed the government for Aids.
I asked you for factual statements, which you gave me none. When I quoted Bellavia at least it was a quote he actually made.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
those guys arent his pastors,just supporters.Hagee isnt a racist.every year i attend a celebration he throws called "The Night to Honor Israel".McCain didnt except his endorsment anyway.u and i cant b talking bout the same Rev. Wright.his statements r blatently racist & anti-American& Obama calls him his spiritual father.u still didnt answer my question.how do u know Bellavias comments were based on race?ur the racist 4 even noticing that Bellavia picked a role model of mixed race.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
How do I know Bellavia's comments were based on race? You are asking me to prove a negative. If you make a statement and a race of people are offended then the statements are racist. I don't know what Bellavia was trying to say I just know what he did say. When you say something that does not come out the way you ment it then you need to come out and clarify, explain and apologies for your statements.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
just cuz u r offended doesnt make it racist.ur offended cuz u completely miss the point of wut hes saying.ive already told u hes explained himself on local radio stations.i dont know y his explanations havent been made more public,but until they r,i will defend a completely innocent man who doesnt deserve this bull.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
Rev. Wright has explained his statement yet people including you still say he is racist and his statements are radical.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
would u mind letting me know exactly wut those explanations r?
RcnMarines 3 years ago
As I said before McCain sought after those pastor's endorsments. Only after several racial statements did McCain reject the endorsments. We are talking about the same Rev. Wright you have been brainwashed by the media. The Media said Rev. Wright's statements were racist but no one ever said what statements were offensive to which race.
moviepromoters 3 years ago
my point is that he obviously didnt know that bout those statements wen he sought their support.Obama should have disowned Wright immediately.also,if he was his spiritual father shouldnt Obama have known bout Wrights radical beliefs?...listen 2 the sermons then u will c that he is totally racist.the comments made by Hagee werent racist atall btw.
RcnMarines 3 years ago
Ignorant and uninformed posting...Bellavia was discussing role models not race!
eltilo 3 years ago
Is there video? Video is much more incriminating.
ndbrandt 3 years ago