See I alway thought the "You bastards" line came from an episode of The Jeffersons. It was the scene where George finds out the killed MLK and he yells out "You BASTARDS!!" I guess it was supposed to be dramatic, but came out silly....I dunno, just a thought.
In the episode "Pod People" they say that one of the monsters looks like it's "Half bear and half pig"... which made me think of "Man Bear Pig"... it's very possible that some of Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's genius inadvertently or even subconsciously came from MST3000
In the episode "Pod People" they say that one of the monsters looks like it's "Half bear and half pig"... which made me think of "Man Bear Pig"... it's very possible that some of Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's genius inadvertently or even subconsciously came from MST3000
Lots of movies & TV shows from the 1960s & 70s featured people referring to their enemies as "those bastards." Anyone over a certain age recognizes the prevalence of that line. The guys from MTS3K and South Park are, like me, from the generation that doesn't need to explain where saying "those bastards" came from. The guys from South Park didn't get it from this MST3K episode, that's for sure. Only someone born after 1980 could possibly believe such a thing.
OHMYGODTHEYKILLEDKENNY!, you bastards. could have come from this? Maybe. The group Duran Duran took their name from a character in Barbarella, and another group named T'Pao took theirs from an episode of Star Trek.
@PsychopathicDr You would be surprised. Some people would rather watch the bad movie than listen to their commentary. Now I love the show, some people just feel differently.
Or maybe this episode was made after South Park debuted, and Mike make the joke in relation to it. If he had made the joke before South Park existed, it wouldn't have made sense.
@d983394 THANK YOU that shit gets old after like 5 fuckin videos "200 people blah blah blah SOMEONE GIVE ME A TOP COMMENT I NEED VALIDATION FROM INTERNET STRANGERS"
There's no correlation whatsoever. As popularity and gross revenue are measurable, and therefore facts. How good something is, is on the other hand an opinion. Some people may think south park is utter shit, and some may think of it as the new Sistine chapel, and no one can be wrong or right about it.
@wesselbindt south park was hit and miss at the beginning, got FUCKING GREAT for a while, and now is shit, because they replaced any chance at comedy with current event references.
Oh man, I just have to say this. If SP is such a bad show, why does it have 3 million viewers? And it made Top 100 Shows in TIME! I don't know why you people are poking at the creators-- I bet they have a lot more money than you!lu9
@hiphopguru81 Um, no. Mystery Science Theater 3000 ran from 1988-1999. This particular episode was aired in 1991. South Park started in 1997. So you do the math.
Here's something you may not have known: The first prototype of "South Park" ("The Spirit of Christmas") was made in 1992. The second prototype, also called "The Spirit of Christmas," was made in 1995.
Reading the "SP leans right!" debate from a week ago, I just can't help but think of SP: The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs & the bookstore arguments: "You must be a pro-life nut, huh? Didn't like what the book had to say?" Another says: "What are you talking about? This book is as pro-life as it gets!" The boys react, "Oh, come on! God dammit! Will you people STOP reading into into stuff that isn't there?!"
Good? Good. So stop pigeon-holing SP cuz they obviously don't want you to.
Here is where I bring up a question that neither one of the users arguing have bothered asking - what do the political agendas of liberals and conservatives have anything to do with three guys talking over a B-movie?
If you notice, the debate started when someone went "Honk honk librull sheep listenin to celebrities, not leik me. I get all my opinions from the talk radio" on a video about... MST3K.
@Dangturtle Exactly. Do it in PM's, fuckhead. Or just do the world a favor and hang yourself. If you think you're changing anyone's opinion or making any difference at all then any bloodline that might inherit your deluded stupidity needs to be cut off.
@JaymzLea Did it ever occur to you that maybe I just fucking enjoy it? Don't read it idiot. Who cares what you think or what annoys you. Move on and shut your fucking mouth.
(CROW voice) I love Ken he is my best friend and I LOVE HIM, I love Ken and I know that he loves me....I love him so much that I might have to OFF him....I'll blame Rocky and get away scott free.......(Servo Voice).I love ken..I love KEN... on Christmas day in the morning.....
Having watched most of the Rifftrax I know both Kevin and Bill like South Park and make numerous references to it. As Bill was playing Tom and Kevin had a guest roll in this ep, I wouldn't be surprised if this is not a direct reference.
I believe that there is a connection. South Park is chock full of referenced one liners. For example in the SP episode where they lose internet when one of the neighbors steps out of his house and screams "What's happening?" the line came from the first Poltergeist movie. I bought the movie to show my kids and they were amazed! On the other side, MST3k used a ton of referenced lines, too. Some of the jokes wouldn't make sense unless you knew where they came from.
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I wish I could find MST3K funny but I simply cannot. I've watched it before including a little bit of Rifftrax but neither of those give me a chuckle.
@TheCreator4 LOL you think you have to be smart to understand south park? Just because someone doesn't like all their poop and gore jokes doesn't mean they don't understand it. duuuuh
@wupchuwawawo hmm well im pretty sure there is al arge difference bewteen this and southpark so u cant really compare the two with how many rewards they have, and the show didnt really die, he just stopped making it. Im sure there are plenty people who would enjoy wathcing this show making fun of more current movies, like Twilight. SouthPark is funny though i am not going to disagree with that. Nerd Virgins for Life, wow the fact someone made a dumb thing like that is just as bad.
"Several of the movies used in the MST3K series have consistently made the Internet Movie Database list of the BOTTOM 100 MOVIES". MST3K won a (MEANING ONE) Peabody Award in '93. In 94-95, nominated for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Writing for a Variety/Music Program, LOST BOTH TIMES to Dennis Miller Live.
SP- 2007, Time "100 Best TV Shows of All Time". 12th-greatest TV show of the past 25 years by Entertainment Weekly...
@wupchuwawawo Ch. 4's 2004 Countdown The 100 Greatest Cartoons it was voted 3rd behind Tom and Jerry (2) and The Simpsons (1). 2006-PeabodyAward. CableACE Award for Best Animated Series in 1997. Nominated for the Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Program nine times, WON FOUR EMMYS. The list goes on... and on... SP is on season 14 and still going, while MST3k (yawn) died at 11. Bottom line... MST3K was funny... but SOUTH PARK WAS, IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE..... EFFIN HILARIOUS!!!
@wupchuwawawo well one thing to keep in mind is that just because a show is on longer doesnt mean its better. arrested evelopment was the greatest comedy ever made but it was too smart for the masses and only got 3 seasons. dont get me wrong, south park is one of my favorite shows but there have been plenty of shitty episodes
The criteria you use to contrast these two shows don't follow. For one, you make it out like winning ONE Peabody is somehow an under-achievement. Seriously? The point of MST3K *was* to use the worst movies. They weren't relegated to using bad films, that was the "mission".
Again, somehow being nominated for Emmys but not winning makes them under-achievers? Huh?
I can respect a good case being made (if I agree or not), but you didn't make one.
To be fair, the phrases, "Oh my God, They Killed Kenny." "You Bastards." First appeared in Trey Parker and Matt Stone's short animated feature the "Spirit of Christmas," which was completed in 1992. Still, this reference occurs first, but I thought it was necessary to straighten out the facts.
Granted, I haven't watched every single episode yet, because I still want to find the MST3K movie and the rare out-of-print set with Godzilla vs. Megalon.
But I haven't exactly liked South Park. It seems more like Shock and Disgust humor than anything.
@krashly71 dude MST3K is funny but your a fucking idiot. And so are 51 people who agree. South Park isn't just talking poo. Its always making fun of current events other people can't even pull off
@MockyRock no no no, fucking idiot was exactly the thought I had when I read your comment. Put it this way, MST3K could make you laugh just as loud as Southpark without having to deliberately reach for some current event shock value, "have to push the edge" type content. Southpark survives only because its like a comedic tabloid. If I want base humor I go to Family Guy, not Southpark. Southpark is old news, rehashed, and over with. It wont be as funny 20 years from now as MST3K still will be.
@krashly71 you clearly have no idea what your talking about, the old south park episodes are on all the time on pix late at night and there fucking hysterical.
Well first, I don't think your comment makes fair comparisons because SP and MST are completely different shows. Sure MST doesn't rely on shock and tabloids, but the show involves riffing bad movies, so generally the humor involves making fun of what's on screen.
And yes SP does generally base episodes on current events, but that isn't the "only" reason it survives. There are plenty of episodes that just focus on original content and satirizing childhood.
@ledawg1138 NOOO, SOuth Park is Level 3 funny at a Mental Complexity Level of 4, while MST3K was Level 9 funny at a Mental Complexity Level of 10. The number of people who GET MST3K jokes was lower than Southpark because the bar for understanding those comments was higher. I consider Southpark to be back in the COACH humor section while up in first class sat MST3K with less people. I dont hate Southpark, it just is in a lower league to me, IMHO...
@SickeninglyILL Yeah, but MST3K reference are clever and subtle. South Park references often involve a character coming from another show and farting in someone's face or something.
@krashly71 Just because South Park is more popular and deals with issues on the nose instead of throwing out random quotes from B movies does not mean its a dumber show...also lolcomedy snob.
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@krashly71 I love both very much, but Southpark > MT3K. Matt Stone and Trey Parker are creators, they made everything from scratch. Whereas MST3K actually used other people's creations to make people laugh.
@krashly71 The fact that you focus on only the talking poop in SP, and not the incredibly deep and subversive political and pop humor in it means you're an idiot.
South Park is the SMARTEST show on television, hands down. Anyone who disagrees is either wrong, or to stupid to understand the points and lessons the show makes.
@Dangturtle Actually South Park is not "smart". The show has been frequently criticized for being an outlet for the show's creators to merely try to push a extremely liberal pro-jewish agenda onto young conformists. It's fanbase is usually white males in their mid 20s who get their political advice from celebrities like Katy Perry and Angelina Jolie. These fans do not think for themselves, they do not have their own political views....they get it all from celebrities and tv shows.
Did you read that on a blog? South Park is OVERWHELMINGLY conservative in nature. The humor in the show is very right leaning, though they aren't afraid to go after the right as well. They consistently make me personally think about the issue being brought up in a very fair and moderate way. They approach subjects through logic and clean thinking, not just heavy handily force feeding a liberal perspective.
South Park is liberal? That show is championed by conservatives. WTF you smoking?
@GenericBeatrix Haha. Its funny because, like all good conservatives, you basically string half-formed thoughts into sentences and stick random celebrity names as per The Completely Stereotypical Neoconservative Handbook. You're a simpleton, coached by your favorite celebrities into thinking you're fighting the eeeeeeeeeevil liberal media conspiracy, and it's cute to watch you run around thinking they're being rebellious. =3
@Dangturtle It becomes easy to make fun of a philosophy that's only based on always using the same vocabulary words and illogical techniques to avoid nasty liberal conspiracies like science and history. Besides the few times you mumble amongst yourselves, can any of you say anything besides what your conservative godheads have drilled into you?
@rubino83 Ya, most of us do. Did you know that most ACTUAL conservatives, not the fake Republican wannabe, Bible toting, "if it ain't Jesus' way it's the wrong way", Conservatives would actually agree with you on 95% of all the social issues you bring up when their related to personal liberties? Sure, we don't want to have to funnel money into the gaping maw of socialized healthcare, and sure, we don't like the welfare system, but most of us just want the govt to STFU and.....
@rubino83 let us do what we want. Would you disagree that the govt has extended itself into nearly every facet of our daily existence? Do you REALLY feel free?
What I want personally is a return to the REPUBLIC. You want gay marriage? Fine, your state votes on it. You want to take care of poor and pay for all their shit? Fine, get YOUR state to vote for it. Issues like these should not be ones that politicians on the national should concern themselves with.
@Dangturtle Yes, yes, we all know those quaint little sound-bites you offer up when someone grabs you by the ear and forces you to say something else besides "DMNED LIBARULLSZZ!!1!!" Maybe someday your belief structure will work on a national scale and you'll realize how a country works and why we never went the direct-democracy route. Until then, the Bible-toting Fascists already seem to get it more than these flower-child libertarians going on about freedom through unchecked anarchy.
@rubino83 Fantastic, you're actually a moron. Good, I don't need to respond anymore.
Did you miss my entire post? did you fail to understand the words? You appear to have one view point you are unwilling to shift from on this subject. Have fun in your life believing you are always right and being unable to shift from a position you hold. It'll take you far.
@Dangturtle Yeah, that's pretty much what libertarians excel at: Giving nothing but hollow and warm-fuzzy platitudes, and then complaining how stupid everyone is when noone takes them seriously (as noone has since... ever).
@Dangturtle Hook, line, and sinker. I make fun of your half-formed non-belief system and you go "YOURE A DAMMD LIBRULL!!!! LIBARRUUUUUUUULLLS!!!!!!!". You're as much a simpleton as that little barking Republican chihuahua you've been bitch-fighting with. The world has left you behind with good reason.
@Dangturtle So your big answer to all that was "Dur-hur-hur"?
Just as well. I've found few libertarians ever really have anything to say. They want to be iconoclasts, not practical thinkers. It's why they're so big on the "tyranny of the majority" thing and their ideal country includes 50 states spinning their wheels and sputtering when just about any issue comes up. (Didn't work for the Confederacy. They couldn't even handle it.)
@rubino83 No I'm laughing that you honestly believe you got me, because I said you were a liberal. You obviously have very liberal view points. Notice, however, I never said anything negative towards liberals. I only said that I found it funny someone with liberal view points, that obviously voted for Obama (if you were old enough to vote) would try to bitch about platitudes, when the champion of liberal democracy* Barack Obama was elected on nothing but.
@rubino83 And you are also taking every one of my view points, and immediately associating them with the most extreme position someone could take on that issue. That's not the case. I realize very well a nationalized government is the only way to be effective, however I do believe that by giving more power to states in CERTAIN SITUATIONS it would be beneficial for the country.
Again, don't try and TELL ME what I believe. You aren't even using examples of what I type. Your all hyperbole
@Dangturtle Ah yes, conservatism in action once again. If you're not screaming like a child after running out of things to say by your second post or so, it's basically just lucky alignment of the planets. Probably why you guys get called reactionaries so much; you snarl instead of explaining why your failed philosophy should be followed. With how you're always whining about how liberal... everyone but you guys are, one would think you'd try to make a convincing argument every now and again.
@rubino83 See this is why I laugh at you. You honestly think you are being smart but you're just repeating yourself in different ways. I do more to damage your credibility by just letting you speak and egging you on, then I could ever do by calling you names or trying to type out an essay in youtube. Seriously, go read over your posts. It's why I called into question your age, because if you're an adult then you you obviously have very serious anti-social mental problems you need to get checked
@rubino83 Actually, your last post didn't even make sense in the context of the post I made. Do you have cut and paste talking points in some word file on your computer? Am I starting to make you panic when you go to choose your next response? Did you not have one that made sense?
@Dangturtle Libertarianism: We don't make sense anyway, so why bother making sentences flow?
I'm sorry. You said you were different than those damnable Republicans you hate so much how? Your word salad responses look pretty close to the typical stream-of-consciousness posts I've seen many times before. Keep fighting the good fight, South Park rebel. Haha.
@rubino83 Okay, this is from someone just seeing this part of the argument (I have no idea how long it's been going on). How the hell did a MST3K video spawn a political debate? Seriously, guys?
@BlackAce777 Are you perhaps new to the Internet? (Lucky you.) Just about anywhere you go, conservative types are quick to flood any public forum, no matter how irrelevant, with their grievances and conspiracy theories. Everything and anything made after 1950 is in fact a well-disguised allegory/polemic against the Iraq War, or a product of the pro-gay liberal Jew-run media agenda that is "forced down the throats" (tee-hee) of anyone who voluntarily consumes it so they can then complain about it
@rubino83 Oh wait, one thing I just read that I would like to touch on, then I'm done banging my head into the wall, aka trying to hold an intelligent conversation with you.
Yes, we need nationalized govt. Of course we do. But on things like gun laws, gay marriage, weed rights, and welfare, it's been proven that we don't. When the states compete with each other, it breeds better laws. People and businesses move, and it forces states to conform to the times.
@rubino83 You appear to have confused TRUE CONSERVATISM, with the fake bullshit that Republicans try to pass onto us.
I guess I could call myself a Libertarian, but then that means letting those wannabe 18th century puritans who call themselves Republicans win.
In short, YOU have been fooled into thinking a certain group of people all behave the same. Reagan hijacked the word conservatism and turned it's meaning into "ultra Republicanism."
This is my problem with South Park fans. You guys always claim that only "smart" people have the ability to enjoy southpark. That is just an incredibly stupid comment. I can't believe how there are like over 9000 people on every southpark video saying that only "intellectuals" and "smart" people are southpark fans and that people who dislike Southpark are "stupid".
Southpark is merely a pile of old overdone running gags which only appeal to 12 year old boys, emos, and hipsters.
@yobro25O This is my problem with people who dislike South Park. You guys always claim that only "smart" people have the ability to not enjoy South Park. That is just an incredibly stupid comment. I can't believe how there are like over 9000 people on every South Park video saying that people who like South Park are "stupid."
People who dislike South Park generalize that its audience consists 12 year old boys, emos, and hipsters.
See what I did there? Also, "South Park" is two words.
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everything from south park is stolen or rehashed. that's how most shows work.
donnyforte2 1 week ago
See I alway thought the "You bastards" line came from an episode of The Jeffersons. It was the scene where George finds out the killed MLK and he yells out "You BASTARDS!!" I guess it was supposed to be dramatic, but came out silly....I dunno, just a thought.
rang3r34 1 month ago
why does it seem like women used to have bigger hips? is that what they thought was sexy back then?
ilikelazers 3 months ago
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tcutie87 3 months ago
@ilikelazers They had bigger hips, but not nearly as much fat as they do now.
crispycritterz 2 months ago
Am I the only one who noticed the context isn't the same as the South Park saying and on South Park they say "You bastards" not "those bastards"?
PooPoo2U 4 months ago
@PooPoo2U if they indeed did get the idea from this, it's more of an homage rather than a blatant rehash of the exact line
aftertouchbeatz 3 months ago
In the episode "Pod People" they say that one of the monsters looks like it's "Half bear and half pig"... which made me think of "Man Bear Pig"... it's very possible that some of Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's genius inadvertently or even subconsciously came from MST3000
Rodney17302 4 months ago 7
In the episode "Pod People" they say that one of the monsters looks like it's "Half bear and half pig"... which made me think of "Man Bear Pig"... it's very possible that some of Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's genius inadvertently or even subconsciously came from MST3000
Rodney17302 4 months ago
Lots of movies & TV shows from the 1960s & 70s featured people referring to their enemies as "those bastards." Anyone over a certain age recognizes the prevalence of that line. The guys from MTS3K and South Park are, like me, from the generation that doesn't need to explain where saying "those bastards" came from. The guys from South Park didn't get it from this MST3K episode, that's for sure. Only someone born after 1980 could possibly believe such a thing.
Xervosh23 5 months ago
@Xervosh23 "Lots of movies & TV shows from the 1960s & 70s featured people referring to their enemies as 'those bastards.'" Source?
CaribDevist 4 months ago
Love it
cody2allen 5 months ago
This seems like just the kind of thing Trey Parker and Matt Stone would watch and use for inspiration.
kaldemvor 6 months ago
@kaldemvor use meaning steal. :P
Thoralmir 5 months ago
It also seems like Matt and Trey may have been inspired by MST3K's "Canada Song."
Viva711711 6 months ago
Perhaps Jon Lovitz's line "It stinks!" from The Critic was inspired by the Pod People episode.
SeverenCinema 6 months ago
@SeverenCinema or it was inspired from the same line in the movie...
demonmama 5 months ago
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schmeltingaccident 6 months ago
I LOL'ed at the dialogue in the movie not matching up with the original Japanese film it was based on. XD
VikutaaChyaaruzu 7 months ago
@proudravenclaw95 Mitchell!!!!!
huskerdu1661 7 months ago
mst3k pwns all ;)
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16emmi 7 months ago
I find the political debate in the comments to be very shallow and pedantic.
lightitup2924 7 months ago 4
@lightitup2924 Hmm. Yes. Shallow and pedantic.
Maggot2553 7 months ago
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I agree shallow and pedantic
lmckay023 7 months ago 3
@lmckay023 Hahaha, family guy rocks!
seans63lemansSD 7 months ago
@seans63lemansSD Thats not family guy
guy27677 7 months ago
people do say you bastards outside of south park... just sayin
weenersaurus 8 months ago
Like it says in the intro, its just a tv show and you all should relax
LARUCUS 8 months ago 4
OHMYGODTHEYKILLEDKENNY!, you bastards. could have come from this? Maybe. The group Duran Duran took their name from a character in Barbarella, and another group named T'Pao took theirs from an episode of Star Trek.
zaphodthenth 8 months ago
@TheMariofan1000 I don't know you at all, friend. I do have a grasp on Matt and Trey's sense of humor though.
CertifiedGooner729 8 months ago
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CertifiedGooner729 8 months ago
Trey Parker and Matt Stone don't strike me as MST3K fans. I highly doubt this.
CertifiedGooner729 8 months ago
@CertifiedGooner729 Everyone is a fan of MST3K
PsychopathicDr 8 months ago
@PsychopathicDr You would be surprised. Some people would rather watch the bad movie than listen to their commentary. Now I love the show, some people just feel differently.
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CertifiedGooner729 8 months ago
That's Ken for you - always killing your brother. Typical.
UpSky2 8 months ago
Or maybe this episode was made after South Park debuted, and Mike make the joke in relation to it. If he had made the joke before South Park existed, it wouldn't have made sense.
evrbody 9 months ago
@evrbody I agree with you! MST3K aired until 1999, and Southpark started in 1997. Mike could just be quoting it. :)
but it was fun hearing them make that reference!
hippocrit123 7 months ago
@hippocrit123 It's Joel, not Mike. This was an earlier episode.
jsampras3 7 months ago
@hippocrit123 Except this episode was released in 1991, 6 years before South Park started. And this was before Mike became the host. :)
prettyinpunk204 6 months ago
What catch phrase? 'Those bastards'? Huh?
rojman123 9 months ago
@rojman123 They killed ken, those bastards! Really, nothing? Better tune into comedy central tonight, new episodes of South Park
ConstantineChernabog 9 months ago
@ConstantineChernabog they stopped saying it like 5 seasons ago :,(
XxJoeyTerrifyingxX 9 months ago
@rojman123 OMG YOU KILLED KENNY
PsychopathicDr 8 months ago
i doubt trey parker and matt stone were even smart enough to watch this show
uuuultra 10 months ago
70 people were killed by Ken
NickRewind1314 10 months ago
@NickRewind1314 shut the fuck up
d983394 10 months ago
@d983394 THANK YOU that shit gets old after like 5 fuckin videos "200 people blah blah blah SOMEONE GIVE ME A TOP COMMENT I NEED VALIDATION FROM INTERNET STRANGERS"
MentosMan727 9 months ago
Popularity or how much money something makes does not directly correlate to how good something is. However, South Park is excellent.
StygianEmperor 10 months ago 45
@StygianEmperor
There's no correlation whatsoever. As popularity and gross revenue are measurable, and therefore facts. How good something is, is on the other hand an opinion. Some people may think south park is utter shit, and some may think of it as the new Sistine chapel, and no one can be wrong or right about it.
wesselbindt 7 months ago
@wesselbindt south park was hit and miss at the beginning, got FUCKING GREAT for a while, and now is shit, because they replaced any chance at comedy with current event references.
sammosaurusrex 6 months ago
@StygianEmperor agreed
only257 1 month ago
Oh man, I just have to say this. If SP is such a bad show, why does it have 3 million viewers? And it made Top 100 Shows in TIME! I don't know why you people are poking at the creators-- I bet they have a lot more money than you!lu9
mouse264 10 months ago
how is "those bastards" a catchphrase?
sdfgsfgbvdfv 10 months ago
@sdfgsfgbvdfv That's what Kyle says whenever Stan says they killed Kenny. Or it might be the other way around.
mouse264 10 months ago
They are quoting south park not the other way around. MSTK3000 was still in production around the time southpark came out
hiphopguru81 10 months ago
@hiphopguru81 Um, no. Mystery Science Theater 3000 ran from 1988-1999. This particular episode was aired in 1991. South Park started in 1997. So you do the math.
belladonna4577 10 months ago
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hiphopguru81 10 months ago
@belladonna4577 I thought Mike said "those bastards"I didn't realize it was Joel. Your right.
hiphopguru81 10 months ago
@hiphopguru81 i'm sorry if it came out like i was being mean or anything because i really wasn't lol. i just had to say it :).
belladonna4577 10 months ago
@belladonna4577
Here's something you may not have known: The first prototype of "South Park" ("The Spirit of Christmas") was made in 1992. The second prototype, also called "The Spirit of Christmas," was made in 1995.
VikutaaChyaaruzu 6 months ago
fuck politics
Adam19822000 11 months ago 13
fuck politics
Adam19822000 11 months ago
Reading the "SP leans right!" debate from a week ago, I just can't help but think of SP: The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs & the bookstore arguments: "You must be a pro-life nut, huh? Didn't like what the book had to say?" Another says: "What are you talking about? This book is as pro-life as it gets!" The boys react, "Oh, come on! God dammit! Will you people STOP reading into into stuff that isn't there?!"
Good? Good. So stop pigeon-holing SP cuz they obviously don't want you to.
Pwned.
VideoMenu 11 months ago 3
Wow. You're all fat.
nateman742 11 months ago 2
@nateman742 I support this comment and its complete un-relation to absolutely everything!
KefkeWren 11 months ago
Here is where I bring up a question that neither one of the users arguing have bothered asking - what do the political agendas of liberals and conservatives have anything to do with three guys talking over a B-movie?
MagnumBill91 11 months ago 161
If you notice, the debate started when someone went "Honk honk librull sheep listenin to celebrities, not leik me. I get all my opinions from the talk radio" on a video about... MST3K.
rubino83 11 months ago
You guys need to shut the fuck up.
V V V V
JaymzLea 11 months ago 3
@JaymzLea Why? Because it annoys you NOT having to read our shit? Maybe you should take your own advice.
Seriously, what the fuck do you care for?
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Exactly. Do it in PM's, fuckhead. Or just do the world a favor and hang yourself. If you think you're changing anyone's opinion or making any difference at all then any bloodline that might inherit your deluded stupidity needs to be cut off.
JaymzLea 11 months ago
@JaymzLea Did it ever occur to you that maybe I just fucking enjoy it? Don't read it idiot. Who cares what you think or what annoys you. Move on and shut your fucking mouth.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
(CROW voice) I love Ken he is my best friend and I LOVE HIM, I love Ken and I know that he loves me....I love him so much that I might have to OFF him....I'll blame Rocky and get away scott free.......(Servo Voice).I love ken..I love KEN... on Christmas day in the morning.....
Ah memories.....
krashly71 1 year ago
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Perhaps, but it's a stretch.
I've been wondering how much of an influence MST3K had on The Simpsons?MST3K had a 2 year start on The Simpsons.
hulliscorrupt 1 year ago
Perhaps, but it's a stretch.
I've been wondering how much of an influence MST3K had on The Simpsons. MST3K had a 2 year start on The Simpsons?
hulliscorrupt 1 year ago 2
either way they r both funny
TheBoMBS803 1 year ago 30
@TheBoMBS803 agreed!
belladonna4577 10 months ago
Ken didn't get killed. He was the KILLER. Those bastards!
CastleOfButterflies 1 year ago
Having watched most of the Rifftrax I know both Kevin and Bill like South Park and make numerous references to it. As Bill was playing Tom and Kevin had a guest roll in this ep, I wouldn't be surprised if this is not a direct reference.
TwistedEvil 1 year ago
While, I love both MST3K and South Park. The entire phrase in a whole wasn't said. This could barely register as an coincidence either....However...
There's an anime that was dubbed in english in 1996 with the exact catchphrase word for word.
The character yells "Oh, my god! They Killed Karabu! You bastards!" That's a little more weirdly predictive.
KinkyCreamPuffJ 1 year ago 4
They're prophets.
LoneFullmetal 1 year ago
I believe that there is a connection. South Park is chock full of referenced one liners. For example in the SP episode where they lose internet when one of the neighbors steps out of his house and screams "What's happening?" the line came from the first Poltergeist movie. I bought the movie to show my kids and they were amazed! On the other side, MST3k used a ton of referenced lines, too. Some of the jokes wouldn't make sense unless you knew where they came from.
flickmaloney 1 year ago
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I wish I could find MST3K funny but I simply cannot. I've watched it before including a little bit of Rifftrax but neither of those give me a chuckle.
TheLastStand001 1 year ago
@TheLastStand001 ...w...hat...
AnimalNitrates 1 year ago
@TheLastStand001 It helps if you're not retarded.
AmericanApologist 1 year ago 3
And thus my theories that the MST3k crew are time-traveling nerds from our time gains weight. Mad, they called me. MAD! WE'LL SEE WHO IS MAD NOW!
Diamondex11 1 year ago
mst3k and south park are VERY different shows
chocolatesprite 1 year ago
mst3k ftw south park is just boring unfunny toilet humor
Kodocha7 1 year ago
@Kodocha7 on the surface, maybe, but if you're smart enough you will notice the genious in the writing.
TheCreator4 1 year ago 4
@TheCreator4 LOL you think you have to be smart to understand south park? Just because someone doesn't like all their poop and gore jokes doesn't mean they don't understand it. duuuuh
ilovesoremuscles 1 year ago
@ilovesoremuscles thanks for reinforcing my point. stupid people won't notice that the show has very clever undertones, like diamonds in the rough
TheCreator4 1 year ago 3
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.... on a final note, 96.3% of the people who watched this clip... were looking for
SOUTH PARK!!! and NOT... NV4L3K (nerd virgins for life 3000)
oh yeah and FAMILY GUY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
wupchuwawawo 1 year ago
@wupchuwawawo hmm well im pretty sure there is al arge difference bewteen this and southpark so u cant really compare the two with how many rewards they have, and the show didnt really die, he just stopped making it. Im sure there are plenty people who would enjoy wathcing this show making fun of more current movies, like Twilight. SouthPark is funny though i am not going to disagree with that. Nerd Virgins for Life, wow the fact someone made a dumb thing like that is just as bad.
kelman221 1 year ago
@kelman221 mst was canceled. The guys now do rifftrax where they make fun of current movies including Twilight.
1devilwoman1 1 year ago
MST3K vs South Park.
"Several of the movies used in the MST3K series have consistently made the Internet Movie Database list of the BOTTOM 100 MOVIES". MST3K won a (MEANING ONE) Peabody Award in '93. In 94-95, nominated for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Writing for a Variety/Music Program, LOST BOTH TIMES to Dennis Miller Live.
SP- 2007, Time "100 Best TV Shows of All Time". 12th-greatest TV show of the past 25 years by Entertainment Weekly...
wupchuwawawo 1 year ago 3
@wupchuwawawo Ch. 4's 2004 Countdown The 100 Greatest Cartoons it was voted 3rd behind Tom and Jerry (2) and The Simpsons (1). 2006-PeabodyAward. CableACE Award for Best Animated Series in 1997. Nominated for the Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Program nine times, WON FOUR EMMYS. The list goes on... and on... SP is on season 14 and still going, while MST3k (yawn) died at 11. Bottom line... MST3K was funny... but SOUTH PARK WAS, IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE..... EFFIN HILARIOUS!!!
wupchuwawawo 1 year ago 2
@wupchuwawawo well one thing to keep in mind is that just because a show is on longer doesnt mean its better. arrested evelopment was the greatest comedy ever made but it was too smart for the masses and only got 3 seasons. dont get me wrong, south park is one of my favorite shows but there have been plenty of shitty episodes
c0nman101 1 year ago
@wupchuwawawo
The criteria you use to contrast these two shows don't follow. For one, you make it out like winning ONE Peabody is somehow an under-achievement. Seriously? The point of MST3K *was* to use the worst movies. They weren't relegated to using bad films, that was the "mission".
Again, somehow being nominated for Emmys but not winning makes them under-achievers? Huh?
I can respect a good case being made (if I agree or not), but you didn't make one.
Or! How about they are BOTH good?
VideoMenu 11 months ago 2
Japanese Chick in a Blond Wig
ActionCarl 1 year ago
Screw you guys! I'm goin' home!
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
Those BASTARDS! :D
TheCGIMaster 1 year ago
THOSE BASTARDS!!! lmao
frenchfrey65 1 year ago 2
Parker and Stone are fans of the show and used this line
thewilloffire08 1 year ago
he was killed...WITH A FORKLIFT!!!
zerodragon9 1 year ago 3
@zerodragon9 those bastards!!!
2366907123 1 year ago
To be fair, the phrases, "Oh my God, They Killed Kenny." "You Bastards." First appeared in Trey Parker and Matt Stone's short animated feature the "Spirit of Christmas," which was completed in 1992. Still, this reference occurs first, but I thought it was necessary to straighten out the facts.
strattacaster 1 year ago 3
I could totally see this being the subconscious inspiration for the South Park gag.
hossrex 1 year ago
MST3K is 3000 times funnier than Southpark and did not need talking poo to get that way.
krashly71 1 year ago 191
@krashly71
Granted, I haven't watched every single episode yet, because I still want to find the MST3K movie and the rare out-of-print set with Godzilla vs. Megalon.
But I haven't exactly liked South Park. It seems more like Shock and Disgust humor than anything.
RocMegamanX 1 year ago
@krashly71 but you have to admit, poo talk is pretty funny
callitacomeb10106 1 year ago
@callitacomeb10106 Maybe if you're 13 years old and retarded.
Domura 1 year ago
@Domura why you flamin nigga
callitacomeb10106 1 year ago
@krashly71 it didn't need talking poo to get that way
TheLastSliceOfPie 1 year ago
@krashly71 dude MST3K is funny but your a fucking idiot. And so are 51 people who agree. South Park isn't just talking poo. Its always making fun of current events other people can't even pull off
MockyRock 1 year ago
@MockyRock okay okay. Maybe not "fucking idiots" but very wrong
MockyRock 1 year ago
@MockyRock no no no, fucking idiot was exactly the thought I had when I read your comment. Put it this way, MST3K could make you laugh just as loud as Southpark without having to deliberately reach for some current event shock value, "have to push the edge" type content. Southpark survives only because its like a comedic tabloid. If I want base humor I go to Family Guy, not Southpark. Southpark is old news, rehashed, and over with. It wont be as funny 20 years from now as MST3K still will be.
krashly71 1 year ago
@krashly71 you clearly have no idea what your talking about, the old south park episodes are on all the time on pix late at night and there fucking hysterical.
Bigshepdawg 1 year ago
@krashly71
Well first, I don't think your comment makes fair comparisons because SP and MST are completely different shows. Sure MST doesn't rely on shock and tabloids, but the show involves riffing bad movies, so generally the humor involves making fun of what's on screen.
And yes SP does generally base episodes on current events, but that isn't the "only" reason it survives. There are plenty of episodes that just focus on original content and satirizing childhood.
darkmindedsith 1 year ago
@krashly71 family guy isnt rehashed?
XxshtickxX 1 year ago
@krashly71
"If I want base humor I go to Family Guy"
You have awful taste and not even liking MST3K can change that.
TheMrNamefag 1 year ago
@TheMrNamefag You think THAT'S bad, remember the time I compensated for legitimate plot by using meaningless cut-away jokes and 80s movie references?
*Cut to Back to the Future reference*
Metamorp8 1 year ago
@krashly71 thats funny. i didnt read anything you wrote but thats funny.
MockyRock 1 year ago
@krashly71 Oh and in the words of Crow T Robot, ...........Bite me, its fun.
krashly71 1 year ago
@krashly71 Tsk, tsk, I didn't know fans of MST3K would have such bad taste. South Park and MST3K...two best shows ever.
ledawg1138 1 year ago
@ledawg1138 NOOO, SOuth Park is Level 3 funny at a Mental Complexity Level of 4, while MST3K was Level 9 funny at a Mental Complexity Level of 10. The number of people who GET MST3K jokes was lower than Southpark because the bar for understanding those comments was higher. I consider Southpark to be back in the COACH humor section while up in first class sat MST3K with less people. I dont hate Southpark, it just is in a lower league to me, IMHO...
krashly71 1 year ago
@krashly71 Pretentious drivel. I've almost watched the entire catalog for both series. MST3K isn't "higher" brow humour than Southpark's.
JabberwockySupafly 1 year ago
@krashly71 most mst3k jokes were about pop culture, South Park makes references that all the time
SickeninglyILL 1 year ago
@SickeninglyILL Yeah, but MST3K reference are clever and subtle. South Park references often involve a character coming from another show and farting in someone's face or something.
femoman 1 year ago 2
@krashly71 Just because South Park is more popular and deals with issues on the nose instead of throwing out random quotes from B movies does not mean its a dumber show...also lolcomedy snob.
Powderwombat 1 year ago 5
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@krashly71 I love both very much, but Southpark > MT3K. Matt Stone and Trey Parker are creators, they made everything from scratch. Whereas MST3K actually used other people's creations to make people laugh.
JabberwockySupafly 1 year ago
@krashly71 no they needed a song about a guy trying to kill people with forklifts
Shanethefilmmaker 1 year ago 3
@krashly71 The fact that you focus on only the talking poop in SP, and not the incredibly deep and subversive political and pop humor in it means you're an idiot.
South Park is the SMARTEST show on television, hands down. Anyone who disagrees is either wrong, or to stupid to understand the points and lessons the show makes.
Dangturtle 1 year ago 2
@Dangturtle Actually South Park is not "smart". The show has been frequently criticized for being an outlet for the show's creators to merely try to push a extremely liberal pro-jewish agenda onto young conformists. It's fanbase is usually white males in their mid 20s who get their political advice from celebrities like Katy Perry and Angelina Jolie. These fans do not think for themselves, they do not have their own political views....they get it all from celebrities and tv shows.
GenericBeatrix 11 months ago
Did you read that on a blog? South Park is OVERWHELMINGLY conservative in nature. The humor in the show is very right leaning, though they aren't afraid to go after the right as well. They consistently make me personally think about the issue being brought up in a very fair and moderate way. They approach subjects through logic and clean thinking, not just heavy handily force feeding a liberal perspective.
South Park is liberal? That show is championed by conservatives. WTF you smoking?
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@GenericBeatrix en.wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/South_Park_Republican
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@GenericBeatrix Matt Stone (co-creator of SP): "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals."
Shall I continue, or do you feel stupid for posting that comment yet?
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@GenericBeatrix Haha. Its funny because, like all good conservatives, you basically string half-formed thoughts into sentences and stick random celebrity names as per The Completely Stereotypical Neoconservative Handbook. You're a simpleton, coached by your favorite celebrities into thinking you're fighting the eeeeeeeeeevil liberal media conspiracy, and it's cute to watch you run around thinking they're being rebellious. =3
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 You're just as bad when you label all of us conservatives as a bunch half retarded hate mongers.
Digging into your Rules for Radicals pretty hard this week huh?
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle It becomes easy to make fun of a philosophy that's only based on always using the same vocabulary words and illogical techniques to avoid nasty liberal conspiracies like science and history. Besides the few times you mumble amongst yourselves, can any of you say anything besides what your conservative godheads have drilled into you?
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 Ya, most of us do. Did you know that most ACTUAL conservatives, not the fake Republican wannabe, Bible toting, "if it ain't Jesus' way it's the wrong way", Conservatives would actually agree with you on 95% of all the social issues you bring up when their related to personal liberties? Sure, we don't want to have to funnel money into the gaping maw of socialized healthcare, and sure, we don't like the welfare system, but most of us just want the govt to STFU and.....
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@rubino83 let us do what we want. Would you disagree that the govt has extended itself into nearly every facet of our daily existence? Do you REALLY feel free?
What I want personally is a return to the REPUBLIC. You want gay marriage? Fine, your state votes on it. You want to take care of poor and pay for all their shit? Fine, get YOUR state to vote for it. Issues like these should not be ones that politicians on the national should concern themselves with.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Yes, yes, we all know those quaint little sound-bites you offer up when someone grabs you by the ear and forces you to say something else besides "DMNED LIBARULLSZZ!!1!!" Maybe someday your belief structure will work on a national scale and you'll realize how a country works and why we never went the direct-democracy route. Until then, the Bible-toting Fascists already seem to get it more than these flower-child libertarians going on about freedom through unchecked anarchy.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 Fantastic, you're actually a moron. Good, I don't need to respond anymore.
Did you miss my entire post? did you fail to understand the words? You appear to have one view point you are unwilling to shift from on this subject. Have fun in your life believing you are always right and being unable to shift from a position you hold. It'll take you far.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Yeah, that's pretty much what libertarians excel at: Giving nothing but hollow and warm-fuzzy platitudes, and then complaining how stupid everyone is when noone takes them seriously (as noone has since... ever).
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 *golf clap*
damn, zinged me out of the ball park.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@rubino83 Oh and I know a liberal isn't bitching about "hollow and warm-fuzzy platitudes" after the jack ass you morons put into the WH.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Hook, line, and sinker. I make fun of your half-formed non-belief system and you go "YOURE A DAMMD LIBRULL!!!! LIBARRUUUUUUUULLLS!!!!!!!". You're as much a simpleton as that little barking Republican chihuahua you've been bitch-fighting with. The world has left you behind with good reason.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83
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Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle So your big answer to all that was "Dur-hur-hur"?
Just as well. I've found few libertarians ever really have anything to say. They want to be iconoclasts, not practical thinkers. It's why they're so big on the "tyranny of the majority" thing and their ideal country includes 50 states spinning their wheels and sputtering when just about any issue comes up. (Didn't work for the Confederacy. They couldn't even handle it.)
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 No I'm laughing that you honestly believe you got me, because I said you were a liberal. You obviously have very liberal view points. Notice, however, I never said anything negative towards liberals. I only said that I found it funny someone with liberal view points, that obviously voted for Obama (if you were old enough to vote) would try to bitch about platitudes, when the champion of liberal democracy* Barack Obama was elected on nothing but.
Then you started yelling like an idiot
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@rubino83 And you are also taking every one of my view points, and immediately associating them with the most extreme position someone could take on that issue. That's not the case. I realize very well a nationalized government is the only way to be effective, however I do believe that by giving more power to states in CERTAIN SITUATIONS it would be beneficial for the country.
Again, don't try and TELL ME what I believe. You aren't even using examples of what I type. Your all hyperbole
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Ah yes, conservatism in action once again. If you're not screaming like a child after running out of things to say by your second post or so, it's basically just lucky alignment of the planets. Probably why you guys get called reactionaries so much; you snarl instead of explaining why your failed philosophy should be followed. With how you're always whining about how liberal... everyone but you guys are, one would think you'd try to make a convincing argument every now and again.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 See this is why I laugh at you. You honestly think you are being smart but you're just repeating yourself in different ways. I do more to damage your credibility by just letting you speak and egging you on, then I could ever do by calling you names or trying to type out an essay in youtube. Seriously, go read over your posts. It's why I called into question your age, because if you're an adult then you you obviously have very serious anti-social mental problems you need to get checked
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@rubino83 Actually, your last post didn't even make sense in the context of the post I made. Do you have cut and paste talking points in some word file on your computer? Am I starting to make you panic when you go to choose your next response? Did you not have one that made sense?
Try thinking for yourself, comrade.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Libertarianism: We don't make sense anyway, so why bother making sentences flow?
I'm sorry. You said you were different than those damnable Republicans you hate so much how? Your word salad responses look pretty close to the typical stream-of-consciousness posts I've seen many times before. Keep fighting the good fight, South Park rebel. Haha.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 Okay, this is from someone just seeing this part of the argument (I have no idea how long it's been going on). How the hell did a MST3K video spawn a political debate? Seriously, guys?
BlackAce777 11 months ago
@BlackAce777 Are you perhaps new to the Internet? (Lucky you.) Just about anywhere you go, conservative types are quick to flood any public forum, no matter how irrelevant, with their grievances and conspiracy theories. Everything and anything made after 1950 is in fact a well-disguised allegory/polemic against the Iraq War, or a product of the pro-gay liberal Jew-run media agenda that is "forced down the throats" (tee-hee) of anyone who voluntarily consumes it so they can then complain about it
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 Oh wait, one thing I just read that I would like to touch on, then I'm done banging my head into the wall, aka trying to hold an intelligent conversation with you.
Yes, we need nationalized govt. Of course we do. But on things like gun laws, gay marriage, weed rights, and welfare, it's been proven that we don't. When the states compete with each other, it breeds better laws. People and businesses move, and it forces states to conform to the times.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle And really, if you don't like the fact that we have such things as interstate law, you can always find a smaller nation.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 You appear to have confused TRUE CONSERVATISM, with the fake bullshit that Republicans try to pass onto us.
I guess I could call myself a Libertarian, but then that means letting those wannabe 18th century puritans who call themselves Republicans win.
In short, YOU have been fooled into thinking a certain group of people all behave the same. Reagan hijacked the word conservatism and turned it's meaning into "ultra Republicanism."
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle Please, I'd take the self-hating Hollywood Demo--excuse me, "Republican" Ronny over Andrew Ryan's pipe dreams.
rubino83 11 months ago
@rubino83 I will say though, fantastic Bioshock reference, though it's not quite what a republic is.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@Dangturtle
This is my problem with South Park fans. You guys always claim that only "smart" people have the ability to enjoy southpark. That is just an incredibly stupid comment. I can't believe how there are like over 9000 people on every southpark video saying that only "intellectuals" and "smart" people are southpark fans and that people who dislike Southpark are "stupid".
Southpark is merely a pile of old overdone running gags which only appeal to 12 year old boys, emos, and hipsters.
yobro25O 11 months ago
@yobro25O It's called a joke faggot. Don't get to sensitive.
Dangturtle 11 months ago
@yobro25O what pile of overdone running gags? lol either way MST3K and South park are great =]
MiliebWoW 11 months ago
@yobro25O This is my problem with people who dislike South Park. You guys always claim that only "smart" people have the ability to not enjoy South Park. That is just an incredibly stupid comment. I can't believe how there are like over 9000 people on every South Park video saying that people who like South Park are "stupid."
People who dislike South Park generalize that its audience consists 12 year old boys, emos, and hipsters.
See what I did there? Also, "South Park" is two words.
thesmashfloydian 10 months ago
wow she's hot
burningsinews 1 year ago
@burningsinews I kind of thought that too!
pimpyourhideontube 1 year ago
Theasdodge is right, look it up!
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breed667 1 year ago
hilarious!
tonyascottmusic 1 year ago
OMG THEY KILLED KEN ... YOU BASTERDS
dramaking85 1 year ago