In Soul Reaver 1, when you watch the memories in the time palace before fight against kain, you can see some things from the future, one of them show Raziel with a fire reaver in a very simliar place like in 2:25
Raziel kills his human form and also the human forms of all his brothers. Therefore eventually providing Kain the corpses he needed to turn them into vampires later in the future, Correct, from human Raziel's point of view. He has yet to experience being thrown into the abyss. Well he needs to be turned into a vampire long before that happens.
jujuju kain kills all his brothers then kain revives them, janus revive in defiance and is poseses by the hylden so i guess blood omen 2 will be rewrited for anew game or story line,DAMN EIDOS GIME A FUCKING NEW GAME OF THIS SERIES¡¡¡
A human killing a blood-sucking vampire... I don't know... I don't see the Human Raziel seeing this as 'wrong'. He'd been fighting vampires a long time.
@anemiandEh Janos Audron was ressurected by Raziel in Defiance... and then possessed by the Unspoken, Hash'ak'gik or Hylden Lord... so many names for the same guy.
@anemiandEh janos gets revived in defiance, then posessed by the hylden, then the hylden seal him inside their machine but then kain throws the nexus stone and thus releases janos, after which the saraphan lord throws janos into their dimension, unable to return back because the gate got closed when kain threw the nexus stone into the machine
What frustrates me about this scene is that Raziel had time to jump down and save Janos instead of just standing there and watching them carve him up!
Remember the Sarafan were armed with Moebius' staff, which completely disarmed Raziel preventing him to use the Wraith Blade. No matter how powerful Raziel was, there's no way he would have stand a chance against the Sarafan elite alone, and picking up a fight with them, unnarmed, would mean Janos Audron sacrificed himself in vain. Raziel had to thread carefully, and it was only when he got the Blood Reaver he could get his revenge.
It was the material reaver that healed the blade (which is called supposed to be called Blood Reaver at the time). The Spirit Reaver is the most powerful version of the blade in the end of Defiance. Imbuing the blade with all crap is just a mean to have the player feel that he makes progress, since there are no brothers' soul and power to devour like in SR1...
Actually, the Wraith Blade from Kain's shattering it upon Raziel healed the blade of William the Just. None of that explains anything in my original comment. I doubt the world's top scientists could explain what the hell happened..
Like lakdav said, it wasn't the Spirit Reaver that healed the blade. The wraith from Kain's Reaver was Raziel's own soul, which, in the 'true' timeline had been absorbed. Since Kain saved Raziel from the Reaver, Raziel was given the oppurtunity to purify the wraith blade with Spirit in Defiance. After that he was absorbed into the blade to form the Soul Reaver, with the power of Spirit in it at last. The shattered Reaver came from the first timeline, and was thus 'Spirit-less.'HTH:P
Best Plot Twist Ever...Period
MintyCoolness 1 month ago
one of the most breath taking story ever made !
amshg21 1 month ago
the moment when raziel and his former self stare at each other.. so epic.
gringolazlo 3 months ago
2:25
In Soul Reaver 1, when you watch the memories in the time palace before fight against kain, you can see some things from the future, one of them show Raziel with a fire reaver in a very simliar place like in 2:25
cosapocha 4 months ago
RAZIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL
laesquina73 6 months ago
It was his true porpoise.
Dude523 9 months ago
vorador snapped when he found janos's corpse
levitan71 10 months ago
But if raziel kills his sarafan self how he still lives?that passed before the execution in to abyss right?
SakuraWhish 1 year ago
@SakuraWhish that was a past him and kain brings him back to life after. this portion of the story is taking place before before Ariel is born
BIGWORD71 10 months ago
@SakuraWhish
Raziel kills his human form and also the human forms of all his brothers. Therefore eventually providing Kain the corpses he needed to turn them into vampires later in the future, Correct, from human Raziel's point of view. He has yet to experience being thrown into the abyss. Well he needs to be turned into a vampire long before that happens.
Darkstar263 3 months ago
a balrog saying you shall not pass ha ha
woodee89 1 year ago
jujuju kain kills all his brothers then kain revives them, janus revive in defiance and is poseses by the hylden so i guess blood omen 2 will be rewrited for anew game or story line,DAMN EIDOS GIME A FUCKING NEW GAME OF THIS SERIES¡¡¡
lindsaylohanslave 1 year ago
@lindsaylohanslave Fuck yeah
cosapocha 4 months ago
A human killing a blood-sucking vampire... I don't know... I don't see the Human Raziel seeing this as 'wrong'. He'd been fighting vampires a long time.
Ares99999 1 year ago
Now this is a part in the timeline I do not understand.
Where does the death of Janos Audron fit in when saraphan lord throws him in the BO2 ? Anyone care to explain this paradox? Rovelius?
anemiandEh 1 year ago
@anemiandEh Janos Audron was ressurected by Raziel in Defiance... and then possessed by the Unspoken, Hash'ak'gik or Hylden Lord... so many names for the same guy.
SoulRippster 1 year ago
@anemiandEh janos gets revived in defiance, then posessed by the hylden, then the hylden seal him inside their machine but then kain throws the nexus stone and thus releases janos, after which the saraphan lord throws janos into their dimension, unable to return back because the gate got closed when kain threw the nexus stone into the machine
llVIU 1 year ago
Heeeeey!!! Wheres that david bowie'd Raziel from the intro of LoK Soul reaver 1?
Hes totally fucked up in SR2!
Gabrielvogel 2 years ago
Mentor?! Come on, Raziel, you guys just met!
XD
lonelysith66 2 years ago
@lonelysith66 He hasn't had a lot of people that act like Janos towards him - you know, kind, not a jackass ro manipulative bastard, so naturally...
alexmeeszymidget 1 year ago
@alexmeeszymidget oic okay ^_^
lonelysith66 1 year ago
Not fair! Janos was so sexy!
1Nbillion817 2 years ago
What frustrates me about this scene is that Raziel had time to jump down and save Janos instead of just standing there and watching them carve him up!
Danny77uk 2 years ago
what pisses me off is that raziel did it in the first place janos was one of my favorite guardians
slytherern 2 years ago
Remember the Sarafan were armed with Moebius' staff, which completely disarmed Raziel preventing him to use the Wraith Blade. No matter how powerful Raziel was, there's no way he would have stand a chance against the Sarafan elite alone, and picking up a fight with them, unnarmed, would mean Janos Audron sacrificed himself in vain. Raziel had to thread carefully, and it was only when he got the Blood Reaver he could get his revenge.
owenitzura 1 year ago
It is true humans are easy to be manipulate by others. One example would be Nazi Germany
darkness007666 2 years ago 4
Mortal Raziel is Total Asshole >:(
Walkingtro 3 years ago 17
The line "And I have taken yours!" was expressed with more grief than I have ever heard in Raziel's voice before.
LiliumLoveless 3 years ago 26
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It makes no sense. Raziel already has the Spirit Reaver that uncoiled and healed the Soul Reaver at William the Just's tomb.
He just wasted all his time imbuing it with loads of crap. Now he must have THIS Soul Reaver too? wtf.
*head explodes*
PrankerDemon 3 years ago
It was the material reaver that healed the blade (which is called supposed to be called Blood Reaver at the time). The Spirit Reaver is the most powerful version of the blade in the end of Defiance. Imbuing the blade with all crap is just a mean to have the player feel that he makes progress, since there are no brothers' soul and power to devour like in SR1...
lakdav 3 years ago
Actually, the Wraith Blade from Kain's shattering it upon Raziel healed the blade of William the Just. None of that explains anything in my original comment. I doubt the world's top scientists could explain what the hell happened..
PrankerDemon 3 years ago
Like lakdav said, it wasn't the Spirit Reaver that healed the blade. The wraith from Kain's Reaver was Raziel's own soul, which, in the 'true' timeline had been absorbed. Since Kain saved Raziel from the Reaver, Raziel was given the oppurtunity to purify the wraith blade with Spirit in Defiance. After that he was absorbed into the blade to form the Soul Reaver, with the power of Spirit in it at last. The shattered Reaver came from the first timeline, and was thus 'Spirit-less.'HTH:P
KatonRyu 3 years ago
You seem to not understand the story line
Janos looks better in SR2 than in LoK Defiance ;)
JustaPioy 3 years ago 3
Yep, the story line confuses the crap out of me. And yes, Janos does look better.
PrankerDemon 3 years ago
The end of this cutscene was shown (in a form) in Soul Reaver 1 in the chronoplast (just before he want through the time portal).
MentisVenator 3 years ago
lol
Human Raziel: o.o
Wraith Raziel: O.O
why seemed slightly suprised to see each other XD
Kuukyo 3 years ago 3
still manages a monologue after his heart has been ripped out, thats hardcore man.
Zool152005 3 years ago 4
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its like mgs
michaelthonger 3 years ago
This game rulz¡¡one of my favorites =D
Mariojosefo 4 years ago