Space Lab Entry (Can chickens fly? ) 雞可以飛?

[kingstonip]

如果係無重力嘅情況下，人去可以上到天花板啦，洗__識飛咩？

重有你個hypothesis唔係testable

[dannyhk23]

世事都被你看透了

[PlacidaYu]

Ridiculous.

[arselon]

九唔答八

[hongkong7145]

讀ib學校?(

[sp20075781]

@hongkong7145 Nope, I don't think he's studying in IB skl

[silvez]

Lmao, you are genius.

[fayesaysyaay]

It's crazy how you got 27 times more hits with this than your english one! I should have filmed mine in canto too! hahhh. I like your idea, Good luck x

[brianlau009]

無重-_-飛....

好心你啦..

[sam20041929]

雞重飛唔起，無重狀態係想佢飛起，姐係無地心吸力→咩都飛得起-­-



[chancebanana]

其實之前假設話雞俾人養得多所以唔識飛已經好有問題=.=雖然呢­個唔係重點

[MrDororo5551]

留意點1 : Lab 內有空氣阻力。

留意點2 : 環境係微重力,而非無重。

BTW,在一個減輕上升難度環境,準確來講都唔係飛.

[he11b1ade]

this is such a ridiculous idea, and to hear you say chicken "used to fly" before, is like saying humans "used to be" apes. Chickens NEVER flew before, when they flew they were NOT chickens. And we are certainly NOT apes.

[chancebanana]

再講多次，就算係bare hand ，只要係起無重力情況下，撥一撥都一定有移動。你個實驗只係用d­屈機既設定去所謂証明雞識飛（因為你諗，有毛有翼，仲唔識飛！？­），呢個topic冇問題的，問題在於你個實驗一d都唔對應

[chancebanana]

似乎你終於明白我講咩啦good，睇番我之前既comment，­有講過其實你個test係focus on whether chicken can perform 拍翼呢個飛行動作，而唔係識唔識飛。正因為你連主題都未搞清，所­以先有人串話＂咁我都識飛啦＂

[bubububuchuchu]

Whether a chicken can learn a new way of locomotion by itself in the space, which may (no sure) resemble flying mechanics, is absolutely an interesting topic to me. It is related to evolution and basic learning processes. Don't give up~

[chancebanana]

最緊要你肯去諗如何面對問題，but not saying sth vague and erroneous to justify your mistaken concept

[chancebanana]

其實我係無無聊聊講下姐，唔使多謝：）

[chancebanana]

另外，我舉人既例子重點係想指出個實驗設計根本証明唔到識飛呢回­事。唔好再逃避了，咁係冇進步。

[chancebanana]

首先，只要有一丁點air resistance, 起無重力情況下係一定會移動的，分別只係快與慢，呢個道理應該唔­難理解吧=.=

[sp20075781]

@chancebanana ...k, Back to your question...Let me try to say it this way....how if I say " The main testing point of the whole experiment is to test if a chicken could actually fly, but another point, is on whether the chicken can "learn to fly in space"....What I'm thinking is that chickens might "Learn How to fly i" as they do have some physical features to support their learning i.e. Wings and feathers - While humans will never be able to do so...with bare hands." Does that make more sense ?

[chancebanana]

簡單問一句：無重力下既拍翼移動，你係咪咁都覺得係飛。 是就說是，不是就說不是

[suenhoming]

@chancebanana

1. 拍翼-> 2. 移動 3.to INTENDED TARGET........-> Yes

Missing either one...No

[chancebanana]

@suenhoming 雖然你都仲係無理到無重力呢個問題 , 不過起碼你識答yes no...

好啦, 既然你覺得起無重力下, 拍翼 移動 去一個目標 = 飛 , 咁請你回答(其實一早提出左ga la , 不過你都係靠屈人唔明你而迴避=.=) : 放個人入去 , 佢拍手(你堅持要翼的話你可以加隻假翼俾佢既=.=) , 移動向intended target , 咁樣你係咪都認為係飛?

[chancebanana]

@chancebanana 如果答案係是的話 , ok , 我投降 , 畢竟人人對飛既定義唔同 (impressed by your word choice though, propel...)

如果答是' 否 '的話 , 咁其實姐係隻雞都唔係真係飛緊啦 (因為人case同雞case都起你既定義環境內 , 即係: 人唔係飛 , 雞果d都唔係飛)。

如果係咁既話 , 我就問啦, 呢個實驗點樣證明雞識飛與否呢?

[sp20075781]

@chancebanana Yep, but the fact is...human with bare hands won't be able to propel himself or herself forward i.e. They could not produce enough air-resistance, and there're be no way that a human could harness oneself.

[chancebanana]

大哥，水母都可以係propel啦，你可以叫佢係飛咩？聽下人意­見，諗下，正面答人問題可以嗎？

[suenhoming]

@chancebanana Man..Don't be so picky...== Jellyfish -> swim.....

Honestly, you really don't understand the definition of flying ?

[chancebanana]

@suenhoming 你自己都識講果d唔係叫飛啦大哥。咁你做咩話隻雞起無重力下移動­係叫飛呀。你覺唔覺你個definition 漠視重力其實係好有問題呀=,= 唔怕煩同你講多d啦 , 我之所以舉水母 , 係因為起海度幾乎係無重力 , 而且有物質密佈(水 , 相當於你個exp.既空氣) , 就係想話 , 呢d環境下既移動 , 唔係叫飛 , 事實上你都識講果d叫swim=.= 畫到出晒腸啦 , 成地都係腸啦...

[sp20075781]

@chancebanana Honestly..Thanks so much for spending so much of your time and effort commenting here, you might see me rebutting your points all the time, but hey,Chancebanana or whatever your real name is, a sincere thank you for all the stimulis enlightenment and reflection you've brought to me.....I think you really have a point - sometimes :D

[chancebanana]

你個所謂定義係冇意思lor，因為你連重力呢樣野都更動，就咁p­ropel呢個字定義左d咩？

[suenhoming]

@chancebanana I just mean to move itself according to the chicken's will to the intended target

[chancebanana]

Testing

[chancebanana]

請定義咩叫做識飛。正常我地對飛既了解都係起 1) 有地心吸力 2) 空氣 既環境下 , 而你都假設左冇地心吸力 , 咁係咪仲係飛呢?

可能你想知雞能唔能夠perform都拍翼呢個動作 , 但拍翼又表唔表示係飛既動作呢?

好簡單 , 如果你放個太空人入去 , 佢四腳爬爬咁都可以上升到gor wor , 佢有"拍手" gor wor , 同雞既 "拍翼" 其實又冇咩分別 , 但你可以話個太空人識飛咩?

[suenhoming]

@chancebanana I've defined it already..Go check once more :)

[Testeam1234]

你都識講太空冇重力 都冇上下之分 點樣將d食物擺係"高"過隻雞既位置?? 我定義客廳係"上面", 睡房係"下面", 我係睡房行出客廳, 咪即係我都識飛囉!! 蛙蝦蝦 原來人都識飛架!! 拿破崙發現新大陸呀!! 讀好d Physics先啦小學雞...

[sinsnowman]

想問: 比你知道雞識飛又如何?

[tom62291]

唔知企鵝又可唔可以飛le?

[mzishk]

1) 回評論：作者係講緊飛而唔係飄，唔好串串貢

2) 回作者：雞係因為翅膀退化，而唔係俾人養得多所以飛唔起

3) 拍翼飛起係利用空氣阻力，而太空並無空氣，所以佢點拍都係飛唔起

結論：作者幾有心機，但實驗假設唔成立

[suenhoming]

@mzishk Thanks for your support,

Re. 2) 雞翅膀退化 might be because 俾人養得多, that's a good question though

Re 3 ) Yep, there's no air in space, but definitely air in the space lab, if there's no air in the spacelab, the chicken, hence the astronauts would have been dead la.. @#$%^! :P

[mzishk]

@suenhoming 即係佢個space lab係模擬太空倉而唔係宇宙環境? sorry我無留意開個event

[o0pigpig0o]

我想睇番「咪走雞．」

[ckw1245]

人地係有講到有人話雞飛唔到係因為過重

而佢要隻雞上太空係合番佢所講既野

而飛係用與空氣動力學原理產生升力

即係用翅膀拍動空氣拎升力黎飛

當然個箱入面有空氣

咁佢食物放高既地方

雞放係低既地方

作者認為雞係會學習到雞用翅膀拍動空氣去 飛

唔係人個隻用肢體禁去固體既飄...

[suenhoming]

@ckw1245 Thanks for the clarification !

[BlueMonstter]

14,000 views .. man, u attracted a huge chinese audience lol

[he11b1ade]

I won't be like other people and just say you are stupid or this is a stupid idea, but I'll tell you this won't work.

Chicken wings no longer have powerful muscles for continuous flapping.  Do you know how strong a bird's wing is? You really should learn some biology, not physics.

[sp20075781]

@he11b1ade In space.. Chickens won't need very strong muscles to fly, as the lifting force required will be a lot less in a weightless condition, I guess it's more about the technique and ability, have I answering your question? 

[chankaiman2007]

無聊

地球:人-> 唔識飛 雞->唔識飛

太空:人-> 識飛 雞->識飛

返地球: 人->骨骼退化 雞->唔通會學識飛?

最蠢既space lab experiment



[Scottykhi]

你係無重情況下 用力推一下 你想去到幾遠都得

你d physic 要讀好d 你睇清楚newton law 點講先啦

[suenhoming]

@Scottykhi Check the description, I've explained what is "Fly"

[REXWONGCITY]

@Scottykhi PHYSICS有S架 字都未識串就叫人讀好D ^^

[crystalchanx]

@Scottykhi 你english讀好d先啦

[nihuyiohc]

正呀喂

[wongkahei614]

曬晒d紙-.-

[suenhoming]

@wongkahei614 ==

[arhim1010]

點解唔講麥記啲麥樂雞…

[sangwing2011]

無聊

[Keihk]

= =... 實驗目的係咩... 太空農場?

[jimmyltksword]

以我膚淺既理解, 簡單黎講...

"飛"應該係向下施力, 對抗重力

咁無重狀態下, "飛"仲成唔成立呢? 仲會唔會有"飛"呢個動作呢?

[Loui5Ng]

國外野山雞可以短途飛行

[Cherry99528]

如果有隻雞,係我頭頂飛

我會嚇死- -

[michaelsun5656]

有趣既問題 :p

岩我d無野做既人睇

[mj13791]

我相信隻雞未識飛已經餓死左~

[Scottykhi]

Actually, a little push can already let the chicken reach the food.

[mynameissunxo]

In fact, everything can "fly" without the pull of gravity.

[sp20075781]

@mynameissunxo I guess that is float..not fly

[yloveyl]

/watch?v=Vh-N5rnF-Ww  2:24 隻雞由地下飛到樹上,,

OFF TOPIC.. you lose !!!

[CKChueng]

點解要係space做哩個lab?而唔係o係地球做?

咁係space跳係咪都符合飛既定義?

如果係既咁太空人都識飛la....洗乜做哩個lab..

[TheJamestsang]

/watch?v=Vh-N5rnF-Ww <<<<有片1:44

[suenhoming]

For the second one, I think you really have a point ! I guess I meant "The furthest original distance for better observable results"

Hope my answer make some sense :)

[Scottykhi]

@suenhoming Newtons Law話一樣行緊ge野 如果無另一個力阻止的話 佢係會續繼行的 試問你估下隻雞係無重之下跳一下會去到邊呢 你唔識答可以睇下wall-e套戲 佢係太空玩滅火筒噴一下 佢想去幾遠就有幾遠 係吾會stop的 欣賞你諗樣咁特別ge問題 但其實你呢個實驗最多都係響地球做 上太空無意思 你咁有創意 諗過第二條啦

[suenhoming]

@Scottykhi Check the description, I've explained what is "Fly"

[suenhoming]

Re Question from @annhan1028:

First, thank so much for the questions =]

From the simple flying exercises within the cage of the spacelab, will the chicken gain the ability to fly over long distances? Also, in microgravity, there is not really an "direction," so it would be hard to define where the top (food) is and where the bottom (chicken) is.

For the first one, I guess, seeing it learning to fly would be a good start already

[cccsskit]

如果你講野慢D(唔撚係叫你RAP呀而家),D圖可以大D<同埋­唔好咁撚緊張就有80分



[carrie01060106]

@cccsskit 不如試下叫你講丫?仲用粗口黎comment你系咪咁冇禮貌呀?

[cccsskit]

@carrie01060106 考慮下

[Crazykan610]

加油喔

[MrToby08913]

無左重力咩野都飛得到架WO

[chocongsinting]

:D fly...

[coffeerful]

我覺得隻雞會"飄"....................

[jackeyma81]

講左咁耐......定義左「飛」未 ?

[suenhoming]

@jackeyma81 Being able to propel itself according to the chicken's will to the intended target, Very good question, sorry about not remembering to note this in the video

[sabaoccy]

加油啊eric suen :P 呢個題目好偉大

亦都好感受到你對科學既熱誠, 加油! :-)

[dine420509149]

我對這個實驗有個問題，就是如何將第一隻因會飛而偉大的雞，送上­大空而不死呢 我看別的片子也有說明如何將他們的活的對象送上大空

而且要做這個實驗為什麼不用只企鵝去做呢 起碼他一定不會有原先會飛的可能性 

[suenhoming]

@dine420509149 Would the wings of the penguins might be too small ?

[ringcheung]

phoneix genius idea 十卜

[suenhoming]

@ringcheung 謝謝!

[mike2005546]

洗鬼飛咩- -

跳上去咪得囉

[suenhoming]

@mike2005546 XD..So there should be a large enough distane :)

[Jasonbean211]

支持你, 高興你能以HK身份比賽, 加油! 我都好中意科學:)

[suenhoming]

@Jasonbean211 Thanks !



[mozwkl]

雞緊係識飛啦

雞飛狗走呀MA

[suenhoming]

@mozwkl XD ==

[yu4489456888]

唔該曬你

[wongmikeho]

無重我都飛到- -

[scleungc1991]

@wongmikeho

咁係因為你已經本身有"飛"既概念

個exp其實都predict到隻雞最尾一定係有能力食到啲食物

重點係想睇雞本能上識飛定係後天學會

[kaionsam]

@wongmikeho 我睇完條片之後我都想咁講-_-