I promise you if you don't love "your silent face" i will be amazed. Not liking the later new order stuff is one thing but this album sounds like as the other guy replied to you what J.D. would have done next. Wheres about are u by the way U.S.?
i live in Greece (i 'm not sure if that 's what you asked me for. i didn't understand exactly the last question). i checked out almost the most songs of the album and yes, i could say it was good and a bit similar to the J.D. 's style. so maybe i misanderstood them a bit but from the other hand, i think that this kind of music is tottaly meaningless* and their personalities have nothing to do with curti's..
meaningless for me is something that doesn't contain any strong feelings.
If you think new order are so different maybe you should listen to them from the start, Movement, New Orders 1st album basically IS joy division, just minus the lyrical genius of Curtis.
you really don't have a clue about music., J.D. were progressive during post punk era, and N.O. continued progression during 80's with electro, they were almost good as J.D.
if you read rob grettonx notes jd certainly wanted to make money and why not,originally they wanted to make a 1 record deal with factory before sighning with the major labels if my memory serves me correct,i'm 50 and for me they were the last truly great rock band
i tottaly love joy division music but as i told you, i 'm pretty dissapointed by their turning to a stupid electro group! So i agree with you that they were trying to make money, but only the three of them! If Ian wanted a big and great career he would have continued playing with the band instead of killing himself and refusing to go out to the stage...
Ian didn't know what he wants, he was like 21, he refused to go out to the stage because of his illness, not because he wanted to stay small club attraction, and he wasn't quite happy with sound of their production, he wanted more rough punk like sound, so if you like JD sound it's
Martin Hannett credit. If J.D. continued they would probably had more and more electro sound, and eventually ended in similar direction as N.O.
New Order can't be attributed as stupid electro group, cause they were among top three electro group at the time, they never had quality of lyrics like J.D. but that was Ian (you are probably just a hater of electro music, which is fine)
I am somewhat in the same camp - I love Joy Division, but apart from a few New Order tracks I could care less about them. They really are two different bands.
@happyjessus Get a grip mate try the new order album "power corruption and lies"
UK (Fac 75) US (FACUS 12) 1983. Nobody likes J.D. more than me (well maybe someone else does but they must have Ian Curtis tattooed on their face or something). Factory records entire ethos was anti commercialism (no singles on albums, no track listings on sleeves, artists were allowed to keep their own rights) The album's the def of romantic, atmospheric and beautifully melancholic. R.I.P Ian, tony, Martin + Rob
@happyjessus your wrong NeW OrdeR deserve credit ... influencing the keyboard/ rythm's . you just sad that Ian Curtis isn't singing .. i understand .. gota respect hooky and co.
@happyjessus you are so obvious...everyone thinks that in his mind, i hate who has to say it like they are a commercial toy. Anyway some of New Order song are fantastic even without Ian; and you know it...everyone does it for money after all. You should hate every group?!
@im666u555 i just want it to be less clear that every fuckin thing is taking place just to fullfill the pockets... anyway, i know i overeacted.. i was less open-minded the period that i made that comment.
@im666u555 Let's straighten out this first.....you wrote "some of New Order song (sp) are fantastic even without Ian", if Ian were still alive, assuming he would have remained with the band....they would be called Joy Division.....duh??? I absolutely believe that Ian Curtis did not do what he did for the money. Of course he needed to get paid something......had a child, a wife and a girlfriend....that takes some cash. Ian Curtis did what he did out of passion. Check out Joy Division on Hulu..
@happyjessus i think they did it as a tribute to ian curtis (that's just my take on it) and fame came with it coz they were original and you can't compare the two really (with ian gone) but i try to think positively and feel a lot of people (myself included) would never have known who joy division was but through new order i found them and am so glad becoz of it
@happyjessus I enjoyed "Control" which was based on a book written by Ian's wife Deborah...so the view may be a bit subjective. There is a awesome film/documentary type called "Joy Division"...you can see it on Hulu. It includes great videos of Joy Division, interviews with remaining band members, his girlfriend Annik, and much more. Between the two you might get a better understanding of how Joy Division emerged and Ian Curtis; the man. Enjoy!
@happyjessus I enjoyed "Control" which was based on a book written by Ian's wife Deborah...so the view may be a bit subjective. There is a awesome film/documentary type called "Joy Division"...you can see it on Hulu. It includes great videos of Joy Division, interviews with remaining band members, his girlfriend Annik, and much more. Between the two you might get a better understanding of how Joy Division emerged and a better understanding of Ian Curtis; the man. Enjoy!
without being educated psychologic experts (at least as I believe), Ian & his co-JD musicians conveyed a lot of truth about experienced negative childage and teenage traumas
i,m trying to find a record that joy division did and there was no singing and it was guitars and drums can anyone remember whats it called i have been trying to track it down this is also one of my favs its brill and the tune to it its good
@albion7000 you are so clever. But you missed one thing, title of this publish is here are young man, the first words from decades track. He haven't titled track, but video.
sehr gutes lied
heil joy divisition
allesvorbei1 2 months ago in playlist Joy Division/Warsaw
@allesvorbei1 es soll natürlich joy division heißen
gruß stoni
allesvorbei1 2 months ago in playlist Joy Division/Warsaw
You hope the video will like everybody? What if it dislikes us?
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oshadiniluka 1 year ago
the "doors" of my generation...
ponchocervantes 1 year ago
Can´t describe it-it´s probably music from the heart!
B.
959tyra 1 year ago
think of our life and joy brothers, live for jesus christ
bass109 1 year ago
great song. guitars, drums, machine. all perfect
asteroide523 1 year ago
Awesome video, great music. Thanks!
zelgerius77 1 year ago
I promise you if you don't love "your silent face" i will be amazed. Not liking the later new order stuff is one thing but this album sounds like as the other guy replied to you what J.D. would have done next. Wheres about are u by the way U.S.?
dazmin100 1 year ago
i live in Greece (i 'm not sure if that 's what you asked me for. i didn't understand exactly the last question). i checked out almost the most songs of the album and yes, i could say it was good and a bit similar to the J.D. 's style. so maybe i misanderstood them a bit but from the other hand, i think that this kind of music is tottaly meaningless* and their personalities have nothing to do with curti's..
meaningless for me is something that doesn't contain any strong feelings.
happyjessus 1 year ago
also, they are TOO pop for me but that doesn't mean they 're not good. it just means i dislike most of their songs :P
happyjessus 1 year ago
this song for the intellectually minded is without precedent. Utterly amazing
inkpink 2 years ago 3
Genius! yeah!.. fuck off
Teasle586 2 years ago
That is not true about new order. Thumbs up for the rest.
venality1 2 years ago
If you think new order are so different maybe you should listen to them from the start, Movement, New Orders 1st album basically IS joy division, just minus the lyrical genius of Curtis.
youwinoneinternets 2 years ago 3
i think they are the best group ever! they are so romantic, atmospheric and beautifully melancholic...i adore them!
but also, i hate New Order, they should feel embaressed of composing all that bullshit just for the money!
happyjessus 2 years ago 6
I totally agree!
verdwijnsel 2 years ago
you really don't have a clue about music., J.D. were progressive during post punk era, and N.O. continued progression during 80's with electro, they were almost good as J.D.
argonja 2 years ago 2
i think if you just try to compare the quality of the music and the lyrics you'll find out what i mean!
happyjessus 2 years ago
if you read rob grettonx notes jd certainly wanted to make money and why not,originally they wanted to make a 1 record deal with factory before sighning with the major labels if my memory serves me correct,i'm 50 and for me they were the last truly great rock band
robert99brown 2 years ago
i tottaly love joy division music but as i told you, i 'm pretty dissapointed by their turning to a stupid electro group! So i agree with you that they were trying to make money, but only the three of them! If Ian wanted a big and great career he would have continued playing with the band instead of killing himself and refusing to go out to the stage...
happyjessus 2 years ago
Ian didn't know what he wants, he was like 21, he refused to go out to the stage because of his illness, not because he wanted to stay small club attraction, and he wasn't quite happy with sound of their production, he wanted more rough punk like sound, so if you like JD sound it's
Martin Hannett credit. If J.D. continued they would probably had more and more electro sound, and eventually ended in similar direction as N.O.
argonja 2 years ago 2
New Order can't be attributed as stupid electro group, cause they were among top three electro group at the time, they never had quality of lyrics like J.D. but that was Ian (you are probably just a hater of electro music, which is fine)
argonja 2 years ago
yeah...maybe you' ve right...
happyjessus 2 years ago
I am somewhat in the same camp - I love Joy Division, but apart from a few New Order tracks I could care less about them. They really are two different bands.
ProjectFlashlight612 2 years ago 2
@happyjessus Get a grip mate try the new order album "power corruption and lies"
UK (Fac 75) US (FACUS 12) 1983. Nobody likes J.D. more than me (well maybe someone else does but they must have Ian Curtis tattooed on their face or something). Factory records entire ethos was anti commercialism (no singles on albums, no track listings on sleeves, artists were allowed to keep their own rights) The album's the def of romantic, atmospheric and beautifully melancholic. R.I.P Ian, tony, Martin + Rob
dazmin100 1 year ago
i' ll give it a chance.. why not?
happyjessus 1 year ago
@happyjessus your wrong NeW OrdeR deserve credit ... influencing the keyboard/ rythm's . you just sad that Ian Curtis isn't singing .. i understand .. gota respect hooky and co.
potchoker 1 year ago
yeah maby i was just sad... i m not sure if i still support that comment..
happyjessus 1 year ago
@happyjessus you are so obvious...everyone thinks that in his mind, i hate who has to say it like they are a commercial toy. Anyway some of New Order song are fantastic even without Ian; and you know it...everyone does it for money after all. You should hate every group?!
im666u555 1 year ago
@im666u555 i just want it to be less clear that every fuckin thing is taking place just to fullfill the pockets... anyway, i know i overeacted.. i was less open-minded the period that i made that comment.
happyjessus 1 year ago
@im666u555 Let's straighten out this first.....you wrote "some of New Order song (sp) are fantastic even without Ian", if Ian were still alive, assuming he would have remained with the band....they would be called Joy Division.....duh??? I absolutely believe that Ian Curtis did not do what he did for the money. Of course he needed to get paid something......had a child, a wife and a girlfriend....that takes some cash. Ian Curtis did what he did out of passion. Check out Joy Division on Hulu..
jano916 9 months ago
@happyjessus i think they did it as a tribute to ian curtis (that's just my take on it) and fame came with it coz they were original and you can't compare the two really (with ian gone) but i try to think positively and feel a lot of people (myself included) would never have known who joy division was but through new order i found them and am so glad becoz of it
ronrendon 1 year ago
@ronrendon yeah maybe that's true.. it sounds ok like this.. but me, i was lucky my father saw the movie 'control' and talked to me about them xD
happyjessus 1 year ago
@happyjessus I enjoyed "Control" which was based on a book written by Ian's wife Deborah...so the view may be a bit subjective. There is a awesome film/documentary type called "Joy Division"...you can see it on Hulu. It includes great videos of Joy Division, interviews with remaining band members, his girlfriend Annik, and much more. Between the two you might get a better understanding of how Joy Division emerged and Ian Curtis; the man. Enjoy!
jano916 9 months ago
@happyjessus I enjoyed "Control" which was based on a book written by Ian's wife Deborah...so the view may be a bit subjective. There is a awesome film/documentary type called "Joy Division"...you can see it on Hulu. It includes great videos of Joy Division, interviews with remaining band members, his girlfriend Annik, and much more. Between the two you might get a better understanding of how Joy Division emerged and a better understanding of Ian Curtis; the man. Enjoy!
jano916 9 months ago
@jano916 oh thanks. i will definately look up for it! thanks again..
happyjessus 9 months ago
@happyjessus brilliantly put, I feel the same way....
seerymseery 1 year ago
@happyjessus whoa whoa whoa, you've obviously not heard new order's amazing stuff they made in their first 4 years
UltimateVenom 5 months ago
Here are the young men
one of the best songs written sends shivers even today talk about painting a picture with words
chop9666 2 years ago 2
One of my all time Joy Division favourites.
ittaiman 2 years ago
this is actually called "decades." but great song regardless.
holllly0 2 years ago 4
Yeah this song is called "decades" but the footage is from VHS called "Here are the young men"
davieshambles08 2 years ago
This is decades from the album CLOSER..
karziflora 2 years ago 4
transcendent!
badhero 2 years ago
pure original
josealexandro080608 3 years ago
this is a first song of video about concert i have on tape
tositteet 3 years ago
without being educated psychologic experts (at least as I believe), Ian & his co-JD musicians conveyed a lot of truth about experienced negative childage and teenage traumas
Elftaal 3 years ago
Hmmm, maybe that's why they've always spoken to me...
yuurei8 2 years ago
this video is actually really cool
Indicatif 3 years ago
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cajohn54 3 years ago
i,m trying to find a record that joy division did and there was no singing and it was guitars and drums can anyone remember whats it called i have been trying to track it down this is also one of my favs its brill and the tune to it its good
adesarmy 3 years ago
are you thinking of 'Incubation' im sure thats an instrumental
dannyb1981 3 years ago
Maybe KOMAKINO?
the13thmoon 3 years ago
Decades*
lostit2bostik 3 years ago 2
wow!!!
cosmosios 4 years ago
I used to own this video, but sold it years ago. This opening sequence still gives me goosebumps all these years later. Thanks for posting.
anttanant 4 years ago
the song IS called Decades
albion7000 4 years ago 13
@albion7000 you are so clever. But you missed one thing, title of this publish is here are young man, the first words from decades track. He haven't titled track, but video.
S4M3L 1 year ago
@S4M3L agreed !
guitar19904 10 months ago
@albion7000
I think even the uploader knew this, but it's the introduction to a some what rare "video album" called here are the young men.
kristina80ification 6 months ago
one of the best tracks on closer
paulbuss 4 years ago 2
I find it funny when people call the music depressing. It gets me fired up. Especially the false conclusions, build ups...where have we been?
Grandpaconway 4 years ago
agreed
the1mills 3 years ago
Goose bumps....one of the best songs of JD....
sendepause 4 years ago
Sounds like the audio is clipping.
mef1975 4 years ago
ahh I see, it all makes sense now.
SKATETOSLAYER 4 years ago
I thought this song was called decades..
Well, I mean it says so on my closer album.
SKATETOSLAYER 5 years ago
it is the name of the song. the video is from a collection called here are the young men.
mrblue99 4 years ago
This video is awesome.Thanks sidkortu!
Ramonapt 5 years ago