Nihad Awad, the executive director of CAIR, thinks that 130 million Americans are a tiny minority. In relation to 1.2 billion Muslims, I suppose it is.
Call me silly, but I do not see how it is wrong to be opposed, to the same Ideology that attacked the WTC, from building a cultural center that wil promulgate that ideology further.
I know that there is a 1st Amendment - but who did Jefferson declare our 1st foreign war against and why? Why did Jefferson own a copy of the Qur'an?
Nihad Awad, the executive director of CAIR, thinks that 130 million Americans are a tiny minority. In relation to 1.2 billion Muslims, I suppose it is.
Call me silly, but I do not see how it is wrong to be opposed, to the same Ideology that attacked the WTC, from building a cultural center that wil promulgate that ideology further.
I know that the is a 1st Amendment - but who did Jefferson declare our 1st foreign war against and why? Why did Jefferson own a copy of the Qur'an?
@junkman19571 Saudia Arabia (Muslim state), United States of America (Secular state). It's a good thing we're not a religious state like Saudia Arabia. I'm not Muslim but who the hell cares where someone puts any religious building. If it were up to me, there would be a tax on Churches, Mosques, and Temples like any other building or organization. If it is allowed under our laws then there's no reason to deny him from building a Satanist's Church if he wants.
All right so you would build a church on islamic grounds oh wait it is forbidden to build a church in saudi arabia and the middle east and you say your about freedom of religion Tim brown is right it hurts badly
@Marines646 Thank goodness we're a secular state that lets anyone build whatever the hell they want wherever they want to worship whatever they want. Comparing us to Saudia Arabia is like saying we're a Christian state when we're clearly not.
Think about what kind of reaction could be expected from the Arabian public if Christians flew aircraft into the Abraj Atta'Awuneya Twin Towers in Ar Riyadh or black stone at Al Ka'ba, Makkah and then decided to build a 13 storey Christian "cultural centre" a few feet away. (Note: It's illegal for Christians to build public churches for use in the wider KSA community but a rare few are allowed inside restricted compounds for some foreigners.)
No matter what the subject, a muslim will always pull the 'victim' card to get their own way.... even for this, of all things. The fact that muslims killed other innocent muslims on American soil should prove that human life - even of their own brethren - is of no value to them.
Think about what kind of reaction could be expected from the Arabian public if Christians flew aircraft into the Abraj Atta'Awuneya Twin Towers in Ar Riyadh or black stone at Al Ka'ba, Makkah and then decided to build a 15 storey Christian "cultural centre" a few feet away. (Note: It's illegal for Christians to build public churches for use in the wider KSA community but a rare few are allowed inside restricted compounds for some foreigners.)
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
This whole mosque at ground zero thing is just perfect .All it is doing is keeping this evil cult of islam in the spot light .
Muslims are so stupid in there tactic of war . Their first big mistake was attacking America on 9/11.The second mistake , proposing a mosque construction on the site of their attack .
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
Muslims didnt do 911. You Tube WTC 7 Collapse and it looks like a controlled demolition. How did 19 Muslims with boxcutters do that? There were explosives inside the buildings. Research it. Or stay ignorant.
In memory of all those innocent civilians who were murdered senselessly in ALL GROUND ZEROs around the world, including 9/11 (approx. 3000), Iraq (millions), Afghanistan (millions), Kosovo (millions), Ruwanda (millions), Vietnam (millions), Korea (millions), Hiroshima (millions), Nazi/WWII (millions), etc...Let's hope these darkest moments of human history teach us to forego biggotry, love and forgive each other & unite against all those who have harmed humanity in one way or another.
I don't understand why when it comes to muslims they always bring a spokesman who is not articulate and has a different accent to prove that Islam is foreign and it is only for foreign people. There are hundred of thousands of white American muslims who can present the muslims pooint of view with an american accent and very articulate.
Lies and more lies from our controlled Media. They change the topic from who did 911? to should a Mosque be built near ground zero? Very clever. All lies. You Tube WTC 7 Collapse and its an obvious controlled demolition with explosives inside the buildings. 19 Muslims with boxcutters did this? Do you really believe that? All lies from our media. Research 911 and its obvious that Muslims with boxcutters didnt collapse 3 skyscrappers. Stop living a lie and stop being in denial.
How stupid, how ignorant and I am ashamed as an American that some of our people are his dumb while aour constitution gives anyone the right to all religions to exercise their religious freedom and build their place of worship on any private land that they own. Some of us Americans need to grow up and learn what our country and our constitution stands for. Plus Islam is not responsible for the actions of a few Muslims. We know that Islam is not guilty of anything, although 9/11 was inside job.
Why not the whole of Ground Zero should be turned into a huge park with a multi-faith center where all the religions of the world (not just the "big three") are represented and where people can go to learn about one another's faiths--from an intellectual, academic, research, arts, cultural, emotional, physical--and whatever other--perspective?????
This would mean REAL FREEDOM on OUR planet earth!!
Stop Being Afraid Of Muslims! Fight Back! They Are The Biggest Intolerant Racist Peoples Walking The Earth! Fight Back Against Islam! Stop Being Afraid!
@milesmuhldoon1 Good job. Keep spreading the word. Europe is waking up. Years of liberal immigration and welfare has filled Europe with parasites. I read that Denmark has changed their immigration policy and citizenship requirements. We can fight the spread of Islam legally by barring Muslim immigration and deporting illegal aliens and revoking resident status of criminals.
@milesmuhldoon1 How about getting the IRS to back tax mosque income and donations? I read that Italy does not consider it a religion because of the politcal aspect of Islam, sharia law, subjugation of women and discrimination of non-Muslims. Maybe IRS could revoke their tax-free status.
Ok well the term is prejudice. And that is exactly what you are. You are associating the extremist with all muslims. An Arabians are a race, and to them you are RACIST. The foundations of America were built upon the freedom to practice their religion without any prejudice, hate, or disallowance. Look at the Mayflower Colony for instance. Not building this mosque does not punish al qaeda, it punishes the AMERICAN CITIZENS who have to travel further to practice their first amendment.
@Tightness8 My previous comment was deleted. I am not pro-Christian. I am pro-American. What are you going to say when Muslims start changing your laws like in the UK? No-go zones in France & Sweden? You talk about the foundations and freedoms. Islam is extreme even if not all Muslims are. Islam was designed to replace all religions and all law with sharia. Did you miss the part when Obama recited the call to prayer? There is only one God and Muhammad is his prophet. Living in denial maybe?
@Tightness8 Do these American ways justify two illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did you tolerate Saddam Hussein, the leader of a foreign sovereign country? You live in an idealistic world that really only exists in your mind. The reality is that whenever Islam expands then freedoms contract. Islam means submission not freedom. If you are pro-freedom then you must be anti-Islam. I am pro-freedom. You are pro wishful thinking.
@caryinja That was as an ignorant of a statement one could make, islam is the submission of ones self to god. Not Submission of all other races and religions. You are pro-media brainwashing. You prob have never been to the middle east have you? Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with islam you idiot. He was the PRESIDENT OF IRAQ. Theres a difference between political toleration and religious toleration. He did not killed in the name of his own greed and domination. Not in the name of islam. Failed
@Tightness8 You are the one who is ignorant of Islam. You think you are a wannabee Muslim like Obama. You are just a poser. You talk about freedoms and toleration as if you are the expert. While you live in lala land people endure persecution and misery thanks to Islam and also to American foreign policy. Keep dreaming. If you don`t wake up then you can remain happy inside your ego. It is certainly big enough.
It's so fucking insane to let muslims into America. It's an imperialist, expansionist political movement. Can you multiculturalists not see the dangerous possibilities here? What happens when fundamentalist muslims occupy the government?
Islam is not a race or a religion. It is a plague. It is responsible for an estimated 250 million deaths since Mohammed first began its spread through Arabia in the 7th century. It is particularly effective in destroying reason and replacing it with delusion and depravity. Islam inverts a person's natural moral compass. The catastrophic results of this are too many to list, but are apparent in any society where there is a large number of infected people. Too often it is detected too late.
@palookaloo make that 2700. Because 300 muslims died there aswell. and apparently they died for nothing as their death is making it harder for their families to survive in America's Stereotyping and Racism.
@Tightness8 well..well...even if 300 muslim rats were by your kind does not change the fact islam is evil...no to mosque in sacred ground.....thats blasphemy and insult to America!
@palookaloo and it sounds to me like YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA because your upset that these guys have the constitutional right the build this mosque and you cant do anything about it. and if your against the constitution then your a terrorist yourself.
@Tightness8 ur talking out of ur ass, ur a fucking moron, and no, i dont want a fucking mosque near ground zero, to be opened on 9/11/11, thats a HUGE slap in the fucking face to america. and no one should have any fucking freedom at all because bitchy little pussies like u just run around and shit on people and then call it religious or social rights, well guess what, i dont give a fuck
@Tightness8 u mean yusof was 90 when he fucked mariam?..can he get his dick up at 90?..LOL.is all your muslim personalities pedophile like muhammad too?..what kind of sick evil cult this islam is!....
I wonder if beck, hannity, or o'reilly will talk about the report or if any network will.....Google Fox News co-owner funded ‘Ground Zero mosque’ imam
I don't get what the big deal is? 100 MILLION DOLLARS?!?!? so what, real estate is rediculous in downtown. thats actually pretty cheap. you CANNOT persecute people for their thoughts, only for their actions. and only individuals not a whole religion. this is dangerously close to communism and biggotry. be careful america.
Islam is Nazism with different costumes. If it gets built, I hope Americans take matters into their own hands and bomb the fuck out of it. See how they like it.
@Lightf00t1 So your saying stoop down their level? Then we cant brag how good america is... Muslims arnt "Them".............Al Qaeda is "Them". An Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind.
Does anybody understand why Ground Zero mosque is called Cordoba house?
City of Córdoba (Spain) was captured in 711 by a Muslim army: in 716 it became a provincial capital, under Caliphate of Damascus; in Arabic it was known as (Qurṭuba). In May 766, it was elected as capital of the Muslim emirate of al-Andalus, later a Caliphate itself.The Great Mosque of Córdoba dates back to this time; under Caliph Al-Hakam II it was erected as a SYMBOL of Caliphate's victory over Europe. IN UR FACE MOSQUE
Where is his stance on the fact the GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH ST NICHOLAS was crushed by the falling TWIN TOWERS & bloomberg will not let them rebuild.
3 good things have come from this 1. the mosque will never get built. 2. Obama outed himself once again and democrats will be slammed in Nov & 2012. 3. Bloomberg will never be president.
Obama, Sunday backs off his words but "I won't comment on the wisdom of it". This also brings up the question Why didn't he say this Friday. Two days later he retracts his words this makes muslims the fools for applauding his Friday words at the dinner..
Pound it into your F'N heads....Islam didnt attack us.....Some asshole teroists did....If some idiot self proclamed Chistian "holy warior"did this, would anyone prevent a church from being raised?.... Bunch of Republican assholes who think this country is more theirs than anyone elses.
Exactly. Islam was made up by a 7th century savage illiterate violent mysoginistic pedophile bedouin caravan robber for desert idiots just like him. It is beyond me why do 21st century civilized people have to "respect" and "tolerate" this mohammedan lunacy. Because it's a "religion" ? How many evil expansionist bloodthirsty cults are we supposed to "tolerate" ?
I don't miss any evil cults of the past. Why islam must be an exception and protected from criticism ?...
You guys realize over 80% of muslims worldwide live outside the Middle East. The two largest Muslim countries are Bangladesh and Indonesia based on population and both of which DO NOT have sharia law. The muslim countries that operate under sharia law only make up 15% of the entire muslim population.
Yeah, now look closely at the countless powerful pro-sharia groups in all those countries and tell me how these "extremist" motherfuckers are any different from the whacky saudi or pakistani shariassholes of the same persuasion ? Eh ?
Use my brain but yet you told me where to look. I'm not here to defend islam, I'm here to defend the freedom of religion because every religion has its nut jobs. They don't represent the entire religion.
You are right about every religion having it's nutjobs. The problem is that being a "nutjob" is a default position of a pious fundamentalist muslim. Did you read the Qur'an ? The Hadiths ?
And what is it about "freedom of religion" that has to be defended ? A right to be a savage irrational nutjob ? After all, aztecs and maya had religion too. Does it make human sacrifices OK? Cannibalism? How much evil bullshit do we have to "tolerate" in the name of "freedom of religion"?
So, is it OK to be a practicing maya or an aztec in the US ? What makes a "religion" ? A mention of some "god" in some "holy book" ? An ancient cultural practice, no matter how barbaric ? An ideology of world domination with hallucinatory dreams about the "afterlife" ?
And why all this madness needs to be protected ? Why not protect all insane criminal behavior and all pathological psychotic hullucinatory anti-social nonsense as a "religion". Why not ?!
Well, now it's not the "dark ages". Right? So let's point it out to muslims clearly, so that every mohammedan fundie understands: we, modern "infidels" do NOT want these "dark ages" back and we will not allow any fanatical muslims to drag us all back into the medieval era !
Fundies can't hide behind this "freedom of religion" gimmick anymore ! No way !
Bill Cooper was in the truth and freedom movement. Check out Cooper's speech at the " Little Ale Inn. It all about freedom my friends. Do not blame Muslims it is about the one world socialist govt. FREEDOM!! Long live the 1 and 2 Amendments. We will repeal the unamerican unconstitutinal personal mandate of Obamacare. If the personal mandate is not unconstitutional then we have no Constitution no America and no freedom. Americans will repeal the mandate one way or another.
Countinued Sorry I forgot to give the number of the biggest body except 911 at Virginia Tech the number was 32 killed. also on Kuwaitii soil U.S. Army Sergeant Asan Akbar Hasan uses grenades kills two a Army Captain and a Air Force Major. 11 other soldiers hurt seriously hurt and flown out. Bill Cooper predicted Osama would be blamed for a big attack to come in a few weeks in June of 2001 Cooper was killed on his own property by the government in Nov 2001.
Countinued Think if these were all white and or Christains the so called main strean would go ape shit. However do not blame all Muslims most are innocent. Check out Bill Cooper 5 part the Assassins. Many of the same names as the shooter's was mentioned in the Assassins I don't mean the whole name just a part like, Muhammad, Omar, Hasan and Ismal. Cooper Predicted in June of 2001 that Osma Bin Laden Would be blamed for a big attack but it would really not Osma but the New World Order
Countined. Feb. 13 2007 Utah guman was a muslim from Bosnia killed 5 in Utah shopping mall.Sulejmen Talovic. Monday April 16 2007 Virginia Tech The biggest body count except for 911. Name Cho but used Ismal and or Ismal ax and wrote Ismal on objects. June 1 2009 Little Rock ARK Army Recruitment Center black Muslim convert Abdulhakim Muhammad kills 1 Army PFC wounds 1 Army PFC. Aug. 4 2010 Connecticut black muslim convert Omar Thornton Sharriff kills 8
Jan 25 1993 Mir Aimal Kasi kills two CIA Employees and three wounded Langley, Virginia. Plus the first World Trade Center bombing was 93 I forget the number killed. Nov. 25 2009 Fort Hood TX Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan kills 12. July 4 2002 Hesham Mohamed Hadyrt murdered two jews at El Al ticket center in LA CALIf. Airport July 28 2006 Seattle Washington. Naveed Afzal Haq Shoots six woman kills one at Jewish Federation Center.
just face it . Osama taught you a lesson. destroyed an empire by one precision attack that snowballed into tower collapses, that snowballed into financial ruin. You shouldnt be angry at Islam. We muslims arent the problem, you should focus your hate on the genius of the Osama. i dont like him either. But what an achievement from a cave - Empire destruction.
@waheedbc USA was complacent and still does not understand security but you are not fooling anyone. Islam is the problem. Muslims who spread or support Islam are guilty. Who are you fooling? Osama didn't do it by himself. USA empire will fall like all others before it. You Muslims will always see us as inferior infidels to be fooled, dominated, killed & enslaved. Muslims are loyal to Allah. There must be jihad until only Allah is worshiped and no religion but Islam. Only OBL is BS.
NO MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO plain and simple! Nihad has clearly shown that he's extremely insensitive and has agenda on his mind aside from being sensitive to the poor families! NOW THE QUESTION IS: WILL OUR LOCAL POLITICANS SET UP TO THE PLATE AND DO WHAT THEY KNOW IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO HERE??? ALL of America is watching NY!
9/11 was an inside job, possibly aimed at creating hatred and a true enemy for the US to rally against. We need a good enemy to justify our ways. Islam has many problems, but so do all religions. As fundamentalists are insane.
@m12bfree1957 "9/11 was an inside job" is Muslim propaganda and you are either believing it or spreading it. If you are believing it then you are in denial. Muslims know they are responsible and the true believers are proud that the infidel USA was wounded that day. We are in a global jihad, a fight for our lives and freedoms. All religions are not the same. Islam is not just a religion. Saudi Arabia is Islamic and other religions are not free to worship there. Research "the religion of peace".
Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
.The majority of Muslims support Bin Laden, Sharia Law, oppressing women, conquering Europe, turning America into an Islamic theocracy, and the annihilation of Israel.
Muslims have always built mosques at the sites of their victories.
This "religion of peace" nonsense, is going to get us killed.
What kind of namby pamby sissies have you New Yorkers become, that you would allow these monsters to flaunt this in your faces?
If Muslims want to make a gesture of peace then build a Church or Temple for every faith killed on 9/11 around the Kaaba at Mecca. How insulted would every Muslim on the planet be at that proposal?
After all where do people think the money to build the mosque is coming from in the first place?
@123backinyerface Collective guilt is great! For every faith killed on 9/11? Does that mean that they will have to build a Mosque as well for the muslims killed in 9/11? But build it in Mecca? What has Mecca got to do with 9/11? Even better would be a gesture of peace for the innocent women and children killed in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Cambodia or Vietnam? Or maybe according to some people, that was justified
@renegade20062609 Well the US didn't build the wall of remembrance for the US troops killed in Vietnam IN! Vietnam did they? Or build the monuments to the victims of Pearl Harbor in Hiroshima city did they?
Why should they build a mosque too, you see when a Muslim dies even accidentally at the hands of another Muslim they beleive they immediately go to paradise, so when they say "oh Muslims were killed in 9/11 too" they beleive those Muslims are in Paradise and everyone else is in Hell.
@123backinyerface ur analogy s completely wrong. US is a nation which went to war with vietnam and japan. on 9/11, a group calling itself al qaida attacked US. A Group, not a nation, not a religion, not every group in the world, 1 group calling itself al qaida. They wanted to kill americans. their target was americans, black/white/muslim/christian/hindu. U do understand the difference between a nations, religions and groups? The correct analogy would be if Al qaida was building it.
It was the ideology of Islam attacked the US, not just "Al Qaeda", where do you think Al Qaeda get their justification from? There is no Radical or Moderate Islam, there is only Islam. You are either in the house of submission or house of war. If a Muslim is killed either in Jihad or even accidentally by another Muslim in Jihad then it is 'believed' paradise is automatic for both.
Calling it a terrorist group is just a politically correct way of avoiding calling it Islam.
@renegade20062609 While you are debating analogies the Muslims are fighting against dar al-harb (the house of war) and the infidels (non-Muslims) by any means necessary. This war was started in 623 AD by Muhammad and continued today by the Muslim Brotherhood beginning in 1928. Time to wake up. Islam is global and patient. Deception and terrorism are only two tactics that are used. Islam has been enslaving humans since before USA existed. Millions have been enslaved or killed over centuries.
@caryinja you could say the same thing with christianity buddy.. Any type of heresy ( AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY OTHER TYPE OF RELIGION) would be death sentence by the most slow painful death imaginable. Spanish Inquisition.
@Tightness8 what about evil islam?..what about beslan?..darfur, genocide of Hindus in India by invading terrorist muslims, Invasion of evil muslim on europe even before crusades,the genocide of Jews of Khaibar?..answer me!..u still think thi evil cult islam still peaceful?
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Tell me which continent Christianity hasnt invaded? Christianity has killed more than muslims have. That is a fact. Christians invaded the South American Continents and violently converted everyone. Any sign of disbelief or disobedience meant death. Sounds evil to me? Dont be a hypocrit and call another religion violent when yours has been anything but peaceful.
@Tightness8 yes u r right...Christians did invade so many nations and ppl....so is evil islam...the difference is evil islam invaded becoz they follow the tenets of islam..The Christians did not follow they book...just compare yourself between Jesus and pedophile Muhammad...did jesus kill ppl like muhammad?..did jesus rape women and children like Muhammad?..did Jesus loot like muhammad?.ask yourself....
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Look at your priests before you call anyone a pedophile. And When the christians were invading they were claiming to be following the book as well, By making their enemies repent through torture. Does that sound fun to you?
it seems whenever they have an islamic commentor on they never let anyone else speek. Awad NEVER stopped talking and that is completely disrespectful, i mean he was even still talking over Brown when Brown was talking about his friend who died. This isnt about religious freedom, it's about the muslim community trying make a point about theire dominance.
If this is a "multi-faith" center like they say, i'd love to see them put a synagogue in it. A respected jewish org. has spoken against mosque
I agree that Muslims should be able to exercise their religious freedoms (so long as it doesn't violate the rights of others), but they are merely trying to stir up shit
islam is not a religion even in the moslem world - it is considered a deen. It should be reclassified as a political movement (actually it is an all invasive way of life even to be imposed upon non-moslems) that is a danger to all who think all human beings should be equal and free. It is disgusting.
awad is, as usual, both deceitful and evasive, it is despicable, that cair are even given airtime considering the FBI etc totally disown there duplicitous rhetoric/babble.
they want to lose the victim mentality, and start answering the hard questions.
he, rauf, and d.khan are all the same, how easy it is to shoot holes in their deceit
The ONLY countries accepting Moslem refugees are the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, most European countries and a few in South America. What do they all have in common? They have a Christian historical tradition — not an Islamic Sharia history.
No Moslem run country accepts Moslem refugees. After accepting Moslems into the USA their horror cult then needs banning
Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
fuck muslims man, they all terrorists fuckers, there is no good muslims man there is non, they there, they are trying to spread the fucked up stupid teachings of islam and make america a muslim nation....which will never happen...america ..for once please stand up against those mother fucker terrorist and protect yourself..other wise they gona stap you in the back one more time like 9-11. they will be next to the new towers and they will attack them again and again, its a religion of hate !!
Vile and despicable. This building of propaganda could be built anywhere, it is a sign of Islamic conquest, I in no way trust muslims because they are taught and even commanded to lie to non-muslims Vis-à-vis Taqiyya. Make no mistake Saudi Arabia is behind this, yet they themselves do not allow such religious freedoms as Western countries do. The committee who approved this are Dhimmis doing the islamics bidding.
Why is this being fast tracked when St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, built in 1916 I believe, and which was destroyed in the attacks on the WTC, is being given a burro-cratic run around about rebuilding? The proposal for the rebuild of St. Nicholas includes a multi-cultural center, and and interfaith center. Why is that not on the fast track?
@3inrifle Maybe because no other member from other religion ever strapped bombs as belts to kill people or maybe because none of any other faith ever had the guts to take a ride on 2 airplanes and use two towers as target....maybe that is why! Remember you thing, in Muslim countires churches are desecrated and in some not even allowed to ring bells or be rebuilt. Also, let me remind you of how many are being killed by machetes(Nigeria) around 500 by muslims, because they are CHRISTIANS! GOOD DAY
How can you stop the mosque from being built without violating the constitution?
I am uncomfortable with the fact that a mosque is being constructed 1 block away from ground zero, but I don't know what angle to approach the argument. I know little about CAIR, and if the charges Brown mentions have merit. They should have had someone other than a CAIR rep for this debate.
@blingwave They could stop the mosque being built if they started to recognise the political doctrines within Islam and the significant role that mosques play in undermining other political systems in favour of creeping in Shariah law.
Just look at what's happening in Dearborn, Michigan. That city has the largest concentration of Muslims and mosques in the US and now the political elites are gradually enforcing Shariah principles over the US constitution in order to appease Muslims.
@blingwave I feel the same way...though its in very bad taste. I wonder about the groups that are NOT raising money to outbid...I don't see anyone stepping up to the 'plate'...guess they're not that alarmed. In the US money talks and everything else walks. So the Muslim can and should build where they want. But who is outbidding them?
@unionnet27 Who can outbid the Saudis? The price per barrel of oil pre-9/11 was $30. Peaked at $145 in 2008. Then came housing crash. Then came financial crisis. Then TARP. Two unnecessary wars running 9 years wasting billions. Bush & Obama glad to make Saudis rich and USA poor. Oil is $82 today controlled by OPEC majority of whom are Islamic countries. Who is paying $100M for bldg? Why? Why open on 10th anni of 9/11? Cordoba was the capital of a caliphate? I know why. Do you?
@blingwave "How can you stop the mosque from being built without violating the constitution?" Maybe we should be looking at how Islam/sharia/Muslims are violating the constitution as it relates to slavery. Every female is the property of a male. Father owns daughter. Then husband owns wife (as young as 9 is permitted). Beatings and honor killings are methods to keep control. Islam/sharia cannot coexist with constitution and American laws. One system will lose. Which one would you live under?
Jihad Awad is an islamofascist supremacist who worships the dead child molester mohamed. Only through the complete extermination of the mohomedan pagan devil worshipers can peace be restored.
CAIR's true intentions were discovered when the FBI wiretapped the notorious "Philadelphia Meeting" attended by Hamas members, supporters, and soon to be CAIR founders Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad. In these wiretaps, Omar Ahmad boasted of the ease in which he could create "Islamic" organizations in America, and how they did not have enough people at the time to perform the work they wanted to "hide." Omar Ahmad and CAIR have never answered what type of "work" Ahmad intended to "hide."
@166beads NOT EXTREMISTS..Extreme is by definition something out of the norm. What they did is all writen in the Koran. They are merely full-observants of that ideology.
@Marroiamaxu Thanks for writing it. It wasn't radicals that caused 9/11. It was Muslims following Islam. "Moderates" are either not practicing Islam or discreetly supporting the spread of Islam. That is why they should not be trusted to be loyal to a country and therefore be denied immigration and visas. They are persecuting many people who could be let into the country instead.
His response to why here (at ground zero) and his response is "WHY NOT"??? Are you kidding me? Quit playing coy and answer the question. What other reason would a mega mosque (and yes it is a mosque) be constructed at ground zero?
@166beads hell yes it is. do you pay attention at all? there have been thousands of Islamic attacks since 9/11. and you regurgitating exactly what the CAIR guy said just shows you are yet another dullard of multiculturalism.
Typical of how CAIR and muslims operate, lie, keep on lying and dominate the discussion with baseless accusations and noise to the extent possible. Originally the plans included a "performing arts" center in the mosque (and it IS a mosque). Problem is the playing of musical instruments, singing, and dancing is forbidden by sharia law in most of islam. So what happened to the performing arts center Awad? Did some kuffar catch you guys lying about that too and so now it's gone?
@bitemelefty Ok apparently you doing the exact same thing tim brown was doing, Ignoring the very VALID point that 300 muslims died in the 9/11 attack as well.
@166beads everyday excluding none, but we do not teach our children to hate, and kill for life adventures. What would be the purpose of life if it was to just hate, and kill????
Quran: Christians & Jews are Not Friends, [Surah 5:51] O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
this nihad dude is in the illuminati.. they setting this up to make people mad.. playing religions against each other.. dont fall for this garbage!! we all know who committed 9/11..
Building that thing is the Very Worst thing to do - it will do the Opposite of improving relations with muslims, and they know it! But they do Not care - they see it as a Permanent symbol of their Victory on 9-11.
People who do Not know this, and are doing the Suicidal PC Dance, are Simply Extremely Ignorant of muslim History and muslim Culture!!
@LosAngelesWriter - Bring That Lawsuit on! Anti-CAIR beat the pants off CAIR when sued by CAIR for calling CAIR a "terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia Law in America". CAIR ran from their own lawsuit when their terror ties were exposed! Tim Brown stated the TRUTH and, btw, it was the FBI who made CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator. Silly.
@LosAngelesWriter Nihad Awad is an Islamofascist. Of course, being the anti-American idiots CAIR is, they probably will smear Tim Brown, a firefighter who lost many coworkers on 9/11. I also find it funny how CAIR lectures on freedom of religion when many Muslim countries will not allow the construction of churches or synagogues. How about showing some sympathy for the victims instead of terrorists?
I am very disappointed at this decision being a family member this was done so quitely and heard about it after it already went to CB1. I will never forget this day I live it every minute of my life... to my loving sister Kathleen Hunt Casey and many of my co-workers at Cantor may they all rest in peace.. Maureen Hunt
Luke 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Wesley's Notes commentary:
[" . . . These seem to be proverbial expressions, to signify an invasion of the tenderest points of honour and property. Offer the other - Forbid not thy coat - That is, rather yield to his repeating the affront or injury, than gratify resentment in righting your self; in any method not becoming Christian love. Mt 5:39."]
Nihad Awad, the executive director of CAIR, thinks that 130 million Americans are a tiny minority. In relation to 1.2 billion Muslims, I suppose it is.
Call me silly, but I do not see how it is wrong to be opposed, to the same Ideology that attacked the WTC, from building a cultural center that wil promulgate that ideology further.
I know that there is a 1st Amendment - but who did Jefferson declare our 1st foreign war against and why? Why did Jefferson own a copy of the Qur'an?
fuzzywuzy 5 months ago
Nihad Awad, the executive director of CAIR, thinks that 130 million Americans are a tiny minority. In relation to 1.2 billion Muslims, I suppose it is.
Call me silly, but I do not see how it is wrong to be opposed, to the same Ideology that attacked the WTC, from building a cultural center that wil promulgate that ideology further.
I know that the is a 1st Amendment - but who did Jefferson declare our 1st foreign war against and why? Why did Jefferson own a copy of the Qur'an?
fuzzywuzy 5 months ago
4:35 wow, superman is kind of a dick.
muzapstar 10 months ago
we should just nuke the arab world...
junkman19571 10 months ago
can i build a catholic church in saudi arabia.......
junkman19571 10 months ago
@junkman19571 Saudia Arabia (Muslim state), United States of America (Secular state). It's a good thing we're not a religious state like Saudia Arabia. I'm not Muslim but who the hell cares where someone puts any religious building. If it were up to me, there would be a tax on Churches, Mosques, and Temples like any other building or organization. If it is allowed under our laws then there's no reason to deny him from building a Satanist's Church if he wants.
DamienZshadow 7 months ago
typical lying muslim...
junkman19571 10 months ago
well they wouldn't have backed the terrorists would they....you prick
junkman19571 10 months ago
All right so you would build a church on islamic grounds oh wait it is forbidden to build a church in saudi arabia and the middle east and you say your about freedom of religion Tim brown is right it hurts badly
Marines646 1 year ago
@Marines646 Thank goodness we're a secular state that lets anyone build whatever the hell they want wherever they want to worship whatever they want. Comparing us to Saudia Arabia is like saying we're a Christian state when we're clearly not.
DamienZshadow 7 months ago
Think about what kind of reaction could be expected from the Arabian public if Christians flew aircraft into the Abraj Atta'Awuneya Twin Towers in Ar Riyadh or black stone at Al Ka'ba, Makkah and then decided to build a 13 storey Christian "cultural centre" a few feet away. (Note: It's illegal for Christians to build public churches for use in the wider KSA community but a rare few are allowed inside restricted compounds for some foreigners.)
Msunbird02 1 year ago
No matter what the subject, a muslim will always pull the 'victim' card to get their own way.... even for this, of all things. The fact that muslims killed other innocent muslims on American soil should prove that human life - even of their own brethren - is of no value to them.
Msunbird02 1 year ago
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Think about what kind of reaction could be expected from the Arabian public if Christians flew aircraft into the Abraj Atta'Awuneya Twin Towers in Ar Riyadh or black stone at Al Ka'ba, Makkah and then decided to build a 15 storey Christian "cultural centre" a few feet away. (Note: It's illegal for Christians to build public churches for use in the wider KSA community but a rare few are allowed inside restricted compounds for some foreigners.)
Msunbird02 1 year ago
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 1 year ago
"BUILD YOUR MOSQUE IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY THAT YOUR FOUNDING FATHERS FOUNDED FOR YOU.. MR NEEHAD!!
tacos95 1 year ago
This whole mosque at ground zero thing is just perfect .All it is doing is keeping this evil cult of islam in the spot light .
Muslims are so stupid in there tactic of war . Their first big mistake was attacking America on 9/11.The second mistake , proposing a mosque construction on the site of their attack .
LuluRosenkrantz 1 year ago
Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights.
IslamISsick1 1 year ago
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Muslims didnt do 911. You Tube WTC 7 Collapse and it looks like a controlled demolition. How did 19 Muslims with boxcutters do that? There were explosives inside the buildings. Research it. Or stay ignorant.
KENA429 1 year ago
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In memory of all those innocent civilians who were murdered senselessly in ALL GROUND ZEROs around the world, including 9/11 (approx. 3000), Iraq (millions), Afghanistan (millions), Kosovo (millions), Ruwanda (millions), Vietnam (millions), Korea (millions), Hiroshima (millions), Nazi/WWII (millions), etc...Let's hope these darkest moments of human history teach us to forego biggotry, love and forgive each other & unite against all those who have harmed humanity in one way or another.
LetsAllLuv 1 year ago
Freedom of Relgion does not guarantee you a spot of your choosing!!!!!
Bentuber223 1 year ago
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Soledad O`brien was amazing she single handedly brought dwn this conniving imam who is clearly practicing taqia (lying to the enemies of islam)
Bottom line is history tells us this is a victory mosque, muslims traditionally build a physical monument on grounds they conquer
what dos islam have 2offer America or NY?
islamic teaching, if you follow the life of the pedophile muhammd you have to own 22 wives/sex slaves including 6 yr old girl
also muhammad was thief who killed btwn 600-900 people
littlelion1964 1 year ago
I don't understand why when it comes to muslims they always bring a spokesman who is not articulate and has a different accent to prove that Islam is foreign and it is only for foreign people. There are hundred of thousands of white American muslims who can present the muslims pooint of view with an american accent and very articulate.
BlackPower991 1 year ago
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@BlackPower991 EXACTLY, thanks for pointing it out
marcetclaude 1 year ago
FOX NEWS = RACISM
facebooksign 1 year ago
@facebooksign
RACE CARD = A typical sign of intellectual impotence and/or unability to provide any rational arguments.
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 2
Lies and more lies from our controlled Media. They change the topic from who did 911? to should a Mosque be built near ground zero? Very clever. All lies. You Tube WTC 7 Collapse and its an obvious controlled demolition with explosives inside the buildings. 19 Muslims with boxcutters did this? Do you really believe that? All lies from our media. Research 911 and its obvious that Muslims with boxcutters didnt collapse 3 skyscrappers. Stop living a lie and stop being in denial.
KENA429 1 year ago
@KENA429 Totally agree with you 100%.
BlackPower991 1 year ago
How stupid, how ignorant and I am ashamed as an American that some of our people are his dumb while aour constitution gives anyone the right to all religions to exercise their religious freedom and build their place of worship on any private land that they own. Some of us Americans need to grow up and learn what our country and our constitution stands for. Plus Islam is not responsible for the actions of a few Muslims. We know that Islam is not guilty of anything, although 9/11 was inside job.
MARZOOGI 1 year ago
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Why not the whole of Ground Zero should be turned into a huge park with a multi-faith center where all the religions of the world (not just the "big three") are represented and where people can go to learn about one another's faiths--from an intellectual, academic, research, arts, cultural, emotional, physical--and whatever other--perspective?????
This would mean REAL FREEDOM on OUR planet earth!!
Please...PEACE is what we need....worldwide!!
Do your part... I'll be doing mine!
RealLightBee 1 year ago
build it .go for it .it s the right thing to do.
bouqsim2008 1 year ago
Stop Being Afraid Of Muslims! Fight Back! They Are The Biggest Intolerant Racist Peoples Walking The Earth! Fight Back Against Islam! Stop Being Afraid!
milesmuhldoon1 1 year ago
@milesmuhldoon1 Good job. Keep spreading the word. Europe is waking up. Years of liberal immigration and welfare has filled Europe with parasites. I read that Denmark has changed their immigration policy and citizenship requirements. We can fight the spread of Islam legally by barring Muslim immigration and deporting illegal aliens and revoking resident status of criminals.
caryinja 1 year ago
@milesmuhldoon1 How about getting the IRS to back tax mosque income and donations? I read that Italy does not consider it a religion because of the politcal aspect of Islam, sharia law, subjugation of women and discrimination of non-Muslims. Maybe IRS could revoke their tax-free status.
caryinja 1 year ago
Ok well the term is prejudice. And that is exactly what you are. You are associating the extremist with all muslims. An Arabians are a race, and to them you are RACIST. The foundations of America were built upon the freedom to practice their religion without any prejudice, hate, or disallowance. Look at the Mayflower Colony for instance. Not building this mosque does not punish al qaeda, it punishes the AMERICAN CITIZENS who have to travel further to practice their first amendment.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 My previous comment was deleted. I am not pro-Christian. I am pro-American. What are you going to say when Muslims start changing your laws like in the UK? No-go zones in France & Sweden? You talk about the foundations and freedoms. Islam is extreme even if not all Muslims are. Islam was designed to replace all religions and all law with sharia. Did you miss the part when Obama recited the call to prayer? There is only one God and Muhammad is his prophet. Living in denial maybe?
caryinja 1 year ago
@caryinja pro american is pro freedom of religion with full toleration so deal with it, or you are against american ways.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 Do these American ways justify two illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did you tolerate Saddam Hussein, the leader of a foreign sovereign country? You live in an idealistic world that really only exists in your mind. The reality is that whenever Islam expands then freedoms contract. Islam means submission not freedom. If you are pro-freedom then you must be anti-Islam. I am pro-freedom. You are pro wishful thinking.
caryinja 1 year ago
@caryinja That was as an ignorant of a statement one could make, islam is the submission of ones self to god. Not Submission of all other races and religions. You are pro-media brainwashing. You prob have never been to the middle east have you? Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with islam you idiot. He was the PRESIDENT OF IRAQ. Theres a difference between political toleration and religious toleration. He did not killed in the name of his own greed and domination. Not in the name of islam. Failed
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 You are the one who is ignorant of Islam. You think you are a wannabee Muslim like Obama. You are just a poser. You talk about freedoms and toleration as if you are the expert. While you live in lala land people endure persecution and misery thanks to Islam and also to American foreign policy. Keep dreaming. If you don`t wake up then you can remain happy inside your ego. It is certainly big enough.
caryinja 1 year ago
It's so fucking insane to let muslims into America. It's an imperialist, expansionist political movement. Can you multiculturalists not see the dangerous possibilities here? What happens when fundamentalist muslims occupy the government?
You left-wingers are just so naive it is unreal.
Lightf00t1 1 year ago
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Islam is not a race or a religion. It is a plague. It is responsible for an estimated 250 million deaths since Mohammed first began its spread through Arabia in the 7th century. It is particularly effective in destroying reason and replacing it with delusion and depravity. Islam inverts a person's natural moral compass. The catastrophic results of this are too many to list, but are apparent in any society where there is a large number of infected people. Too often it is detected too late.
NoGroundZeroMosque 1 year ago
tim browns my new hero, and i think that the 3000 people who died there would be damn proud that at least ONE man has the sack to stand up for THEM
palookaloo 1 year ago
@palookaloo make that 2700. Because 300 muslims died there aswell. and apparently they died for nothing as their death is making it harder for their families to survive in America's Stereotyping and Racism.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 well..well...even if 300 muslim rats were by your kind does not change the fact islam is evil...no to mosque in sacred ground.....thats blasphemy and insult to America!
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@Tightness8 islam is a religion, not a race, therefore, not racism. and if u dont like america. GET OUT
palookaloo 1 year ago
@palookaloo and it sounds to me like YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA because your upset that these guys have the constitutional right the build this mosque and you cant do anything about it. and if your against the constitution then your a terrorist yourself.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 ur talking out of ur ass, ur a fucking moron, and no, i dont want a fucking mosque near ground zero, to be opened on 9/11/11, thats a HUGE slap in the fucking face to america. and no one should have any fucking freedom at all because bitchy little pussies like u just run around and shit on people and then call it religious or social rights, well guess what, i dont give a fuck
palookaloo 1 year ago
Tim Brown is a despicable person. Nihad Awad did a good job here, in spite of being constantly interrupted.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 tim brown fucked arab terrorist ass...go fuck muhammad the pedophile fat ass.....
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 joseph was age 90 when he married Mary.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 u mean yusof was 90 when he fucked mariam?..can he get his dick up at 90?..LOL.is all your muslim personalities pedophile like muhammad too?..what kind of sick evil cult this islam is!....
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
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I wonder if beck, hannity, or o'reilly will talk about the report or if any network will.....Google Fox News co-owner funded ‘Ground Zero mosque’ imam
ssmith87 1 year ago
I don't get what the big deal is? 100 MILLION DOLLARS?!?!? so what, real estate is rediculous in downtown. thats actually pretty cheap. you CANNOT persecute people for their thoughts, only for their actions. and only individuals not a whole religion. this is dangerously close to communism and biggotry. be careful america.
jeff61177 1 year ago
Islam is Nazism with different costumes. If it gets built, I hope Americans take matters into their own hands and bomb the fuck out of it. See how they like it.
Lightf00t1 1 year ago
@Lightf00t1 So your saying stoop down their level? Then we cant brag how good america is... Muslims arnt "Them".............Al Qaeda is "Them". An Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind.
Tightness8 1 year ago
Does anybody understand why Ground Zero mosque is called Cordoba house?
City of Córdoba (Spain) was captured in 711 by a Muslim army: in 716 it became a provincial capital, under Caliphate of Damascus; in Arabic it was known as (Qurṭuba). In May 766, it was elected as capital of the Muslim emirate of al-Andalus, later a Caliphate itself.The Great Mosque of Córdoba dates back to this time; under Caliph Al-Hakam II it was erected as a SYMBOL of Caliphate's victory over Europe. IN UR FACE MOSQUE
amergk 1 year ago
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Where is his stance on the fact the GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH ST NICHOLAS was crushed by the falling TWIN TOWERS & bloomberg will not let them rebuild.
3 good things have come from this 1. the mosque will never get built. 2. Obama outed himself once again and democrats will be slammed in Nov & 2012. 3. Bloomberg will never be president.
amergk 1 year ago
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Obama, Sunday backs off his words but "I won't comment on the wisdom of it". This also brings up the question Why didn't he say this Friday. Two days later he retracts his words this makes muslims the fools for applauding his Friday words at the dinner..
amergk 1 year ago
Pound it into your F'N heads....Islam didnt attack us.....Some asshole teroists did....If some idiot self proclamed Chistian "holy warior"did this, would anyone prevent a church from being raised?.... Bunch of Republican assholes who think this country is more theirs than anyone elses.
gab9669777 1 year ago
Apparently the career islamopropaganda bullshitters from CAIR really think that we non-muslims are all brainless idiots.
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 18
@VonStierlitz Clearly radical nazi right wing you are
ALFARESALMEGWAR 1 year ago
@ALFARESALMEGWAR
Clearly yet another irrational thin-skinned mohammedan fanatic you are. :)
VonStierlitz 1 year ago
@VonStierlitz
I fully agree!
I also think the term 'non muslims' should be replaces with civilised society - dont you agree?
they seem to relish shouting ppl down for some strange reason - especially when they are being exposed lol
lilalipstick1 1 year ago
@lilalipstick1
Exactly. Islam was made up by a 7th century savage illiterate violent mysoginistic pedophile bedouin caravan robber for desert idiots just like him. It is beyond me why do 21st century civilized people have to "respect" and "tolerate" this mohammedan lunacy. Because it's a "religion" ? How many evil expansionist bloodthirsty cults are we supposed to "tolerate" ?
I don't miss any evil cults of the past. Why islam must be an exception and protected from criticism ?...
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 9
@VonStierlitz
You guys realize over 80% of muslims worldwide live outside the Middle East. The two largest Muslim countries are Bangladesh and Indonesia based on population and both of which DO NOT have sharia law. The muslim countries that operate under sharia law only make up 15% of the entire muslim population.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
Yeah, now look closely at the countless powerful pro-sharia groups in all those countries and tell me how these "extremist" motherfuckers are any different from the whacky saudi or pakistani shariassholes of the same persuasion ? Eh ?
VonStierlitz 1 year ago
@VonStierlitz
What groups? Be specific.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
Go to jihadwatch (dot) org
You'll find all you need to know.
VonStierlitz 1 year ago
@VonStierlitz
You tell me.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
Do you want me to compile for you a list of all islamic fundamentalist parties in every islamic country ?
Do you want me to explain to you how and why all the recent islamist riots are happening ?
Do you want me to explain to you how important the sharia law is for the islamist ideologues ?
Why don't you use your own brain and your own time for research, bro ?
VonStierlitz 1 year ago
@VonStierlitz
Use my brain but yet you told me where to look. I'm not here to defend islam, I'm here to defend the freedom of religion because every religion has its nut jobs. They don't represent the entire religion.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
You are right about every religion having it's nutjobs. The problem is that being a "nutjob" is a default position of a pious fundamentalist muslim. Did you read the Qur'an ? The Hadiths ?
And what is it about "freedom of religion" that has to be defended ? A right to be a savage irrational nutjob ? After all, aztecs and maya had religion too. Does it make human sacrifices OK? Cannibalism? How much evil bullshit do we have to "tolerate" in the name of "freedom of religion"?
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 2
@VonStierlitz
You take away the right to practice one religion in the US then whats next?
As long as everybody operates within the common laws in this nation.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
So, is it OK to be a practicing maya or an aztec in the US ? What makes a "religion" ? A mention of some "god" in some "holy book" ? An ancient cultural practice, no matter how barbaric ? An ideology of world domination with hallucinatory dreams about the "afterlife" ?
And why all this madness needs to be protected ? Why not protect all insane criminal behavior and all pathological psychotic hullucinatory anti-social nonsense as a "religion". Why not ?!
Absurd ? Yes, it is!
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 3
@VonStierlitz
Yes, as long as theyre operating within our common laws.
I'm sorry I thought you were talking about christianity during the dark ages.
Oddballmarine90 1 year ago
@Oddballmarine90
Well, now it's not the "dark ages". Right? So let's point it out to muslims clearly, so that every mohammedan fundie understands: we, modern "infidels" do NOT want these "dark ages" back and we will not allow any fanatical muslims to drag us all back into the medieval era !
Fundies can't hide behind this "freedom of religion" gimmick anymore ! No way !
VonStierlitz 1 year ago 5
Bill Cooper was in the truth and freedom movement. Check out Cooper's speech at the " Little Ale Inn. It all about freedom my friends. Do not blame Muslims it is about the one world socialist govt. FREEDOM!! Long live the 1 and 2 Amendments. We will repeal the unamerican unconstitutinal personal mandate of Obamacare. If the personal mandate is not unconstitutional then we have no Constitution no America and no freedom. Americans will repeal the mandate one way or another.
jackiemickie 1 year ago
Countinued Sorry I forgot to give the number of the biggest body except 911 at Virginia Tech the number was 32 killed. also on Kuwaitii soil U.S. Army Sergeant Asan Akbar Hasan uses grenades kills two a Army Captain and a Air Force Major. 11 other soldiers hurt seriously hurt and flown out. Bill Cooper predicted Osama would be blamed for a big attack to come in a few weeks in June of 2001 Cooper was killed on his own property by the government in Nov 2001.
jackiemickie 1 year ago
Countinued Think if these were all white and or Christains the so called main strean would go ape shit. However do not blame all Muslims most are innocent. Check out Bill Cooper 5 part the Assassins. Many of the same names as the shooter's was mentioned in the Assassins I don't mean the whole name just a part like, Muhammad, Omar, Hasan and Ismal. Cooper Predicted in June of 2001 that Osma Bin Laden Would be blamed for a big attack but it would really not Osma but the New World Order
jackiemickie 1 year ago
Countined. Feb. 13 2007 Utah guman was a muslim from Bosnia killed 5 in Utah shopping mall.Sulejmen Talovic. Monday April 16 2007 Virginia Tech The biggest body count except for 911. Name Cho but used Ismal and or Ismal ax and wrote Ismal on objects. June 1 2009 Little Rock ARK Army Recruitment Center black Muslim convert Abdulhakim Muhammad kills 1 Army PFC wounds 1 Army PFC. Aug. 4 2010 Connecticut black muslim convert Omar Thornton Sharriff kills 8
jackiemickie 1 year ago
Jan 25 1993 Mir Aimal Kasi kills two CIA Employees and three wounded Langley, Virginia. Plus the first World Trade Center bombing was 93 I forget the number killed. Nov. 25 2009 Fort Hood TX Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan kills 12. July 4 2002 Hesham Mohamed Hadyrt murdered two jews at El Al ticket center in LA CALIf. Airport July 28 2006 Seattle Washington. Naveed Afzal Haq Shoots six woman kills one at Jewish Federation Center.
jackiemickie 1 year ago
just face it . Osama taught you a lesson. destroyed an empire by one precision attack that snowballed into tower collapses, that snowballed into financial ruin. You shouldnt be angry at Islam. We muslims arent the problem, you should focus your hate on the genius of the Osama. i dont like him either. But what an achievement from a cave - Empire destruction.
waheedbc 1 year ago
@waheedbc USA was complacent and still does not understand security but you are not fooling anyone. Islam is the problem. Muslims who spread or support Islam are guilty. Who are you fooling? Osama didn't do it by himself. USA empire will fall like all others before it. You Muslims will always see us as inferior infidels to be fooled, dominated, killed & enslaved. Muslims are loyal to Allah. There must be jihad until only Allah is worshiped and no religion but Islam. Only OBL is BS.
caryinja 1 year ago
FUCK these islamo fascists of CAIR!!
CAIR = Muslim mafia!
Muhammed = pedophile and mass murderer!
FUCK ISLAM, FUCK SHARIA, clean up your country America!!
TWITVB 1 year ago
NO MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO plain and simple! Nihad has clearly shown that he's extremely insensitive and has agenda on his mind aside from being sensitive to the poor families! NOW THE QUESTION IS: WILL OUR LOCAL POLITICANS SET UP TO THE PLATE AND DO WHAT THEY KNOW IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO HERE??? ALL of America is watching NY!
99minerkc 1 year ago
9/11 was an inside job, possibly aimed at creating hatred and a true enemy for the US to rally against. We need a good enemy to justify our ways. Islam has many problems, but so do all religions. As fundamentalists are insane.
m12bfree1957 1 year ago
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@m12bfree1957 "9/11 was an inside job" is Muslim propaganda and you are either believing it or spreading it. If you are believing it then you are in denial. Muslims know they are responsible and the true believers are proud that the infidel USA was wounded that day. We are in a global jihad, a fight for our lives and freedoms. All religions are not the same. Islam is not just a religion. Saudi Arabia is Islamic and other religions are not free to worship there. Research "the religion of peace".
caryinja 1 year ago
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Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
gramosjr7 1 year ago
There's no such thing as a radical fringe.
.The majority of Muslims support Bin Laden, Sharia Law, oppressing women, conquering Europe, turning America into an Islamic theocracy, and the annihilation of Israel.
Muslims have always built mosques at the sites of their victories.
This "religion of peace" nonsense, is going to get us killed.
What kind of namby pamby sissies have you New Yorkers become, that you would allow these monsters to flaunt this in your faces?
Dajuro 1 year ago 4
@Dajuro WELL SAID!!!!!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@Dajuro stop pretending that you actually know something for fact while you don't know a jacked shit you another brainwashed civilian
marcetclaude 1 year ago
Think about it this way people. When we kick the Muslims out of America we get that nice new building they built.
Every time you sit near a Muslim, bring your leg over your knee so your shoe bottom faces them. They just love it!
wetweasel56 1 year ago
If Muslims want to make a gesture of peace then build a Church or Temple for every faith killed on 9/11 around the Kaaba at Mecca. How insulted would every Muslim on the planet be at that proposal?
After all where do people think the money to build the mosque is coming from in the first place?
Its Saudi Oil money.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface Collective guilt is great! For every faith killed on 9/11? Does that mean that they will have to build a Mosque as well for the muslims killed in 9/11? But build it in Mecca? What has Mecca got to do with 9/11? Even better would be a gesture of peace for the innocent women and children killed in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Cambodia or Vietnam? Or maybe according to some people, that was justified
renegade20062609 1 year ago
@renegade20062609 Well the US didn't build the wall of remembrance for the US troops killed in Vietnam IN! Vietnam did they? Or build the monuments to the victims of Pearl Harbor in Hiroshima city did they?
Why should they build a mosque too, you see when a Muslim dies even accidentally at the hands of another Muslim they beleive they immediately go to paradise, so when they say "oh Muslims were killed in 9/11 too" they beleive those Muslims are in Paradise and everyone else is in Hell.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface ur analogy s completely wrong. US is a nation which went to war with vietnam and japan. on 9/11, a group calling itself al qaida attacked US. A Group, not a nation, not a religion, not every group in the world, 1 group calling itself al qaida. They wanted to kill americans. their target was americans, black/white/muslim/christian/hindu. U do understand the difference between a nations, religions and groups? The correct analogy would be if Al qaida was building it.
renegade20062609 1 year ago
@renegade20062609 .
It was the ideology of Islam attacked the US, not just "Al Qaeda", where do you think Al Qaeda get their justification from? There is no Radical or Moderate Islam, there is only Islam. You are either in the house of submission or house of war. If a Muslim is killed either in Jihad or even accidentally by another Muslim in Jihad then it is 'believed' paradise is automatic for both.
Calling it a terrorist group is just a politically correct way of avoiding calling it Islam.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@renegade20062609 While you are debating analogies the Muslims are fighting against dar al-harb (the house of war) and the infidels (non-Muslims) by any means necessary. This war was started in 623 AD by Muhammad and continued today by the Muslim Brotherhood beginning in 1928. Time to wake up. Islam is global and patient. Deception and terrorism are only two tactics that are used. Islam has been enslaving humans since before USA existed. Millions have been enslaved or killed over centuries.
caryinja 1 year ago
@caryinja you could say the same thing with christianity buddy.. Any type of heresy ( AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY OTHER TYPE OF RELIGION) would be death sentence by the most slow painful death imaginable. Spanish Inquisition.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 what about evil islam?..what about beslan?..darfur, genocide of Hindus in India by invading terrorist muslims, Invasion of evil muslim on europe even before crusades,the genocide of Jews of Khaibar?..answer me!..u still think thi evil cult islam still peaceful?
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Tell me which continent Christianity hasnt invaded? Christianity has killed more than muslims have. That is a fact. Christians invaded the South American Continents and violently converted everyone. Any sign of disbelief or disobedience meant death. Sounds evil to me? Dont be a hypocrit and call another religion violent when yours has been anything but peaceful.
Tightness8 1 year ago
@Tightness8 yes u r right...Christians did invade so many nations and ppl....so is evil islam...the difference is evil islam invaded becoz they follow the tenets of islam..The Christians did not follow they book...just compare yourself between Jesus and pedophile Muhammad...did jesus kill ppl like muhammad?..did jesus rape women and children like Muhammad?..did Jesus loot like muhammad?.ask yourself....
muhammadsucksmycock1 1 year ago
@muhammadsucksmycock1 Look at your priests before you call anyone a pedophile. And When the christians were invading they were claiming to be following the book as well, By making their enemies repent through torture. Does that sound fun to you?
Tightness8 1 year ago
@123backinyerface is it collective guilt or do u believe that muslim americans
did 9/11 so therefore they can't build a mosque any
where near ground zero? i'll think u will find al qaida
believe anyone who does not agree with them are their
enemies and they will go to hell, that includes anyone
who was killed on 9/11, muslim or non-muslim.
renegade20062609 1 year ago
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renegade20062609 1 year ago
it seems whenever they have an islamic commentor on they never let anyone else speek. Awad NEVER stopped talking and that is completely disrespectful, i mean he was even still talking over Brown when Brown was talking about his friend who died. This isnt about religious freedom, it's about the muslim community trying make a point about theire dominance.
If this is a "multi-faith" center like they say, i'd love to see them put a synagogue in it. A respected jewish org. has spoken against mosque
ipooponcrackers 1 year ago
I agree that Muslims should be able to exercise their religious freedoms (so long as it doesn't violate the rights of others), but they are merely trying to stir up shit
Elasaltaculos 1 year ago
I am so glad that SOMEONE brought up what CAIR and its reps are about. FOX NEWS DOESN'T DO IT - AND THEY SHOULD BE SHAMED FOR NOT DOING SO!
staffsgt7 1 year ago 2
islam is not a religion even in the moslem world - it is considered a deen. It should be reclassified as a political movement (actually it is an all invasive way of life even to be imposed upon non-moslems) that is a danger to all who think all human beings should be equal and free. It is disgusting.
staffsgt7 1 year ago 2
can someone PLEASE shove the face of that bullshit muslim shItforbrain into a pile of any variety of muslim shit located at the site in question and
PUT IT ON YOUTUBE FOR WORLDWIDE DISTRIBUTION?
why didnt they talk about the name? "THE CORDOBA HOUSE"!!!!!!
do you know the signifcance of CORDOBA?
I MEAN HOLY FUCKING SHIT, PPL!!!!!!!!!
`````KILL ISLAM NOW~~~!!!!!!!!
noliarz 1 year ago 6
this muslim, what a vile peace of shit.
GospodinMilan 1 year ago 4
awad is, as usual, both deceitful and evasive, it is despicable, that cair are even given airtime considering the FBI etc totally disown there duplicitous rhetoric/babble.
they want to lose the victim mentality, and start answering the hard questions.
he, rauf, and d.khan are all the same, how easy it is to shoot holes in their deceit
bravo BRAVO. Mr Brown sir.
secula4eva 1 year ago 2
The ONLY countries accepting Moslem refugees are the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, most European countries and a few in South America. What do they all have in common? They have a Christian historical tradition — not an Islamic Sharia history.
No Moslem run country accepts Moslem refugees. After accepting Moslems into the USA their horror cult then needs banning
petzlxx 1 year ago
Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
gramosjr7 1 year ago
fuck muslims man, they all terrorists fuckers, there is no good muslims man there is non, they there, they are trying to spread the fucked up stupid teachings of islam and make america a muslim nation....which will never happen...america ..for once please stand up against those mother fucker terrorist and protect yourself..other wise they gona stap you in the back one more time like 9-11. they will be next to the new towers and they will attack them again and again, its a religion of hate !!
egyptahly 1 year ago
fox is very unbiased
drmad2 1 year ago
Vile and despicable. This building of propaganda could be built anywhere, it is a sign of Islamic conquest, I in no way trust muslims because they are taught and even commanded to lie to non-muslims Vis-à-vis Taqiyya. Make no mistake Saudi Arabia is behind this, yet they themselves do not allow such religious freedoms as Western countries do. The committee who approved this are Dhimmis doing the islamics bidding.
egoing74 1 year ago
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“MOSQUES ARE OUR BARRACKS, domes our helmets, minarets our bayonets, believers our soldiers. ..." Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan
givemeabreaknow1 1 year ago 2
Why is this being fast tracked when St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, built in 1916 I believe, and which was destroyed in the attacks on the WTC, is being given a burro-cratic run around about rebuilding? The proposal for the rebuild of St. Nicholas includes a multi-cultural center, and and interfaith center. Why is that not on the fast track?
3inrifle 1 year ago
@3inrifle Maybe because no other member from other religion ever strapped bombs as belts to kill people or maybe because none of any other faith ever had the guts to take a ride on 2 airplanes and use two towers as target....maybe that is why! Remember you thing, in Muslim countires churches are desecrated and in some not even allowed to ring bells or be rebuilt. Also, let me remind you of how many are being killed by machetes(Nigeria) around 500 by muslims, because they are CHRISTIANS! GOOD DAY
Marroiamaxu 1 year ago 3
He never did answer “Why there”
raarjochie 1 year ago 2
9/11 and Fort Hood was Koran 9:111
LaFee700 1 year ago 2
@JDogDrums Knowing CAIR, Muslims will probably blow up their own mosque and CAIR will play the hate crime card.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
what does that tosser mean by "trying to associate the muslim faith with 9/11"? It was about Islam and nothing but Islam!!
bertiebirdman 1 year ago 2
How can you stop the mosque from being built without violating the constitution?
I am uncomfortable with the fact that a mosque is being constructed 1 block away from ground zero, but I don't know what angle to approach the argument. I know little about CAIR, and if the charges Brown mentions have merit. They should have had someone other than a CAIR rep for this debate.
blingwave 1 year ago
@blingwave It's part of their act of war.. I think there should be coverage in the Const. that doesn't grant the enemy a position in our society.
I am for all mosques being banned as it is not a religion but a political death cult.
ImDiscombobulated 1 year ago 2
@blingwave They could stop the mosque being built if they started to recognise the political doctrines within Islam and the significant role that mosques play in undermining other political systems in favour of creeping in Shariah law.
Just look at what's happening in Dearborn, Michigan. That city has the largest concentration of Muslims and mosques in the US and now the political elites are gradually enforcing Shariah principles over the US constitution in order to appease Muslims.
limersbey 1 year ago
@blingwave I feel the same way...though its in very bad taste. I wonder about the groups that are NOT raising money to outbid...I don't see anyone stepping up to the 'plate'...guess they're not that alarmed. In the US money talks and everything else walks. So the Muslim can and should build where they want. But who is outbidding them?
unionnet27 1 year ago
@unionnet27 Who can outbid the Saudis? The price per barrel of oil pre-9/11 was $30. Peaked at $145 in 2008. Then came housing crash. Then came financial crisis. Then TARP. Two unnecessary wars running 9 years wasting billions. Bush & Obama glad to make Saudis rich and USA poor. Oil is $82 today controlled by OPEC majority of whom are Islamic countries. Who is paying $100M for bldg? Why? Why open on 10th anni of 9/11? Cordoba was the capital of a caliphate? I know why. Do you?
caryinja 1 year ago
@caryinja great points a saudi connection...not good...not good at all :(
unionnet27 1 year ago
@blingwave "How can you stop the mosque from being built without violating the constitution?" Maybe we should be looking at how Islam/sharia/Muslims are violating the constitution as it relates to slavery. Every female is the property of a male. Father owns daughter. Then husband owns wife (as young as 9 is permitted). Beatings and honor killings are methods to keep control. Islam/sharia cannot coexist with constitution and American laws. One system will lose. Which one would you live under?
caryinja 1 year ago
Jihad Awad is an islamofascist supremacist who worships the dead child molester mohamed. Only through the complete extermination of the mohomedan pagan devil worshipers can peace be restored.
Jerricho68 1 year ago 3
Placement of Mosques outside Arabia often has a supremacist meaning.
Wilbur665 1 year ago 2
Taqiyya (3:28)-visage Nahdi
LaFee700 1 year ago
CAIR's true intentions were discovered when the FBI wiretapped the notorious "Philadelphia Meeting" attended by Hamas members, supporters, and soon to be CAIR founders Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad. In these wiretaps, Omar Ahmad boasted of the ease in which he could create "Islamic" organizations in America, and how they did not have enough people at the time to perform the work they wanted to "hide." Omar Ahmad and CAIR have never answered what type of "work" Ahmad intended to "hide."
TruthOnCAIR 1 year ago 7
extremist Muslims did 9/11, not normal everyday Muslims, Fox fails to notice the difference.
166beads 1 year ago
@166beads NOT EXTREMISTS..Extreme is by definition something out of the norm. What they did is all writen in the Koran. They are merely full-observants of that ideology.
Marroiamaxu 1 year ago 3
@Marroiamaxu Thanks for writing it. It wasn't radicals that caused 9/11. It was Muslims following Islam. "Moderates" are either not practicing Islam or discreetly supporting the spread of Islam. That is why they should not be trusted to be loyal to a country and therefore be denied immigration and visas. They are persecuting many people who could be let into the country instead.
caryinja 1 year ago
His response to why here (at ground zero) and his response is "WHY NOT"??? Are you kidding me? Quit playing coy and answer the question. What other reason would a mega mosque (and yes it is a mosque) be constructed at ground zero?
candidskeptic 1 year ago 4
@candidskeptic so your saying that the Muslim religion is directly linked to terrorism and 9/11? So I'll ask you, why not there?
166beads 1 year ago
@166beads hell yes it is. do you pay attention at all? there have been thousands of Islamic attacks since 9/11. and you regurgitating exactly what the CAIR guy said just shows you are yet another dullard of multiculturalism.
candidskeptic 1 year ago
Typical of how CAIR and muslims operate, lie, keep on lying and dominate the discussion with baseless accusations and noise to the extent possible. Originally the plans included a "performing arts" center in the mosque (and it IS a mosque). Problem is the playing of musical instruments, singing, and dancing is forbidden by sharia law in most of islam. So what happened to the performing arts center Awad? Did some kuffar catch you guys lying about that too and so now it's gone?
Perpetual liars.
bitemelefty 1 year ago 12
@bitemelefty Ok apparently you doing the exact same thing tim brown was doing, Ignoring the very VALID point that 300 muslims died in the 9/11 attack as well.
Tightness8 1 year ago
Has there been any protest against radical islamics, by islamics????
BMAN8175 1 year ago 3
@BMAN8175 has there been any protests against extreme right wing christians by christians?
166beads 1 year ago
@166beads everyday excluding none, but we do not teach our children to hate, and kill for life adventures. What would be the purpose of life if it was to just hate, and kill????
BMAN8175 1 year ago
Quran: Christians & Jews are Not Friends, [Surah 5:51] O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
panneednp 1 year ago
this nihad dude is in the illuminati.. they setting this up to make people mad.. playing religions against each other.. dont fall for this garbage!! we all know who committed 9/11..
NIKAREED 1 year ago
Typical Devious islamie Follows This Rule: "Smile to their Face, as you Curse them in your Heart".
Christian Rule: Do Not believe Anything a muslim says!
3martijns 1 year ago
Building that thing is the Very Worst thing to do - it will do the Opposite of improving relations with muslims, and they know it! But they do Not care - they see it as a Permanent symbol of their Victory on 9-11.
People who do Not know this, and are doing the Suicidal PC Dance, are Simply Extremely Ignorant of muslim History and muslim Culture!!
3martijns 1 year ago
@JDogDrums You're not better than al qeada, same type, different nationality.
LosAngelesWriter 1 year ago
@LosAngelesWriter you're an ignorant liberal progressive.
KissMyTool 1 year ago 2
Tim Brown clearly slandered Nihad Awad by calling him an "un-indicted co-conspirator." Hopefully Nihad Awad will sue Tim Brown.
LosAngelesWriter 1 year ago
@LosAngelesWriter - Bring That Lawsuit on! Anti-CAIR beat the pants off CAIR when sued by CAIR for calling CAIR a "terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia Law in America". CAIR ran from their own lawsuit when their terror ties were exposed! Tim Brown stated the TRUTH and, btw, it was the FBI who made CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator. Silly.
TruthOnCAIR 1 year ago 5
@LosAngelesWriter Nihad Awad is an Islamofascist. Of course, being the anti-American idiots CAIR is, they probably will smear Tim Brown, a firefighter who lost many coworkers on 9/11. I also find it funny how CAIR lectures on freedom of religion when many Muslim countries will not allow the construction of churches or synagogues. How about showing some sympathy for the victims instead of terrorists?
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@LosAngelesWriter LOL... to weaklings like you that might be slander!!
KissMyTool 1 year ago
I am very disappointed at this decision being a family member this was done so quitely and heard about it after it already went to CB1. I will never forget this day I live it every minute of my life... to my loving sister Kathleen Hunt Casey and many of my co-workers at Cantor may they all rest in peace.. Maureen Hunt
maureenh11209 1 year ago
Luke 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Wesley's Notes commentary:
[" . . . These seem to be proverbial expressions, to signify an invasion of the tenderest points of honour and property. Offer the other - Forbid not thy coat - That is, rather yield to his repeating the affront or injury, than gratify resentment in righting your self; in any method not becoming Christian love. Mt 5:39."]
rEtrds4Palin 1 year ago 27
@rEtrds4Palin screw luke and your dumb outdated fairy tale book!
99minerkc 1 year ago
I see a 55 gallon drum of pig's blood getting accidentally spilled in this mother fucker if it ever gets built. And that's just for starters.
KissMyTool 1 year ago
@KissMyTool You are an ignorant bigot. I'll bet your daddy and grand daddy said the same things about blacks.
LosAngelesWriter 1 year ago