Actually, $500 in 1960 would be well over $3000 in 2008! Approaching $4000 even,depending on your method of comparison. (Like the first 1980s computers that cost the equivalent of $4,000 to $7,000 in 2010 prices! Now down to $400 to $1000 for an adequate model!)
Thanks Kerry, Im a little late in responding to this, but ive only just discovered it by looking at all the others. Well done and that smile of urs tells me ur very pleased to own it.
fantastic. i long to have a 8mm camera and ever since i saw your kodak brownie demonstration, i want it even more. the kodak brownie is probably one of the best looking cameras i've ever seen and there's not many of them. one of my favorite together with our czechoslovakian meopta admira. one thing's puzzling me, though, concerning the fairchild. how is the sound synchronized if the sound head is few inches beyond the lens? does it have a delay system? anyway, thanks for great videos!
Thanks for your comment. The Fairchild Sound Projector has the same spacing between the lens & sound head as the camera, therefore it sync'd perfectly. The spacing is needed because the film starts & stops at the shutter but must be smooth running, like an audiotape, at the sound head.
oh, i haven't thought of that... :) does it work like this on other sound cameras? or is there a norm or something for all projectors? anyway, thanks for the answer!
I just want to add a precision to this information. The spacing between the lens and the sound head was 52 frames in the camera. I don't know if it was the same on the Fairchild Sound Projector. But for sure it wasn't the same on other projectors. I own a Fairchild Cinephonic Camera since 1966 and a Fujica Sound Projector and I have used them a lot (many thousand feet of film). The Fujica projector has a spacing between lens and sound head of 56 frames, a standard that came after 1959 for 8mm.
It could of course have been the age of the camera, the wear or azimuth on the recording head or the same on the projector that I had - although the projector did a good job of projecting it's own and other sound films. It may have been the stripe. Either way it was an expensive way to make fluttery muffled sound films. I've also noted there's a sentence missing from that comment - should have said ..external battery, and you could get film from Superior...
Hiya, I have the zoom reflex of version of this camera. The batteries were also dead when I got it back in about 1978. I took them out and added an external Superior in the USA (I am in UK). The first time I got 16mm striped stock reperforated to 8, just had sound on one run, the second time I got someone to stripe some stock for me. Both times the quality was not good, Kodak's super8 sound was better and cheaper.
I found my old Fairchild camera just yesterday in my garage filled with little tech treasures and of course, discovered your clip moments ago!
Question: I assume that you had to carry around some sort of a change bag in order to flip over the half-exposed spool to shoot the other side, correct?
A changing bag never hurts but I never carried one. Kodak and other film mfgs always gave an extra foot or two of film that they knew would be light-struck from loading. After developing, the lab would snip off most of it & your film would look fine.
these nostalgic cameras are very intriguing! Thanks for making this video, It taught me a thing or two: I now can tell my friends what a d-mount lens system is!
That was second-hand Cadillac money in 1959. On my paper route I had a used car lot customer that later turned out to be a front for a bookie joint and he had some $509 Caddies. These cameras were advertised in "Pegasus" magazine, a mostly aviation Fairchild Industries organ for employees. My
Really cool videos, but my parents had a silent double8mm camera and I have seen the film and I can't really imagine where the sound is recorded on the Fairchild camera.
The Fairchild took a special type of 8mm film. First, the film was 50' long rather than the Kodak 25' rolls. The magnetic sound track was a VERY thin stripe located between the perforations and the edge of the film.
That projector looks just like a reel-to-reel tape player. Probably because it IS a tape player, playing back the magnetic audio on the film. The entire setup, if you bought it all from that catalog, looks like it would have cost a fortune and a half back then.
With one std lens and a basic projector with no extras...it cost $510 in 1960. I was about 12 then and there would be NO WAY my Dad would have bought that for me!
i have this. missing a view finder though. and still has a film in it. not working anymore.
walrus1981 1 year ago
nice
kevkev267 1 year ago
how much would one of those cost on ebay?
ReeceIsDaWord 1 year ago
Actually, $500 in 1960 would be well over $3000 in 2008! Approaching $4000 even,depending on your method of comparison. (Like the first 1980s computers that cost the equivalent of $4,000 to $7,000 in 2010 prices! Now down to $400 to $1000 for an adequate model!)
tryggda 1 year ago
RIP kerry! You were a great man!
thomaslover135 1 year ago
Thank you! Your reviews are great.
StrangeWorld18 1 year ago
I have this camera for sell.Please contact me..ty
cbd2tbone2 1 year ago
Thanks Kerry, Im a little late in responding to this, but ive only just discovered it by looking at all the others. Well done and that smile of urs tells me ur very pleased to own it.
Sincerely,
John. Canada.
JOHNDEEBANK 2 years ago
Yes, after all these years, pleased to have it in my collection.
KKD1247 2 years ago
fantastic. i long to have a 8mm camera and ever since i saw your kodak brownie demonstration, i want it even more. the kodak brownie is probably one of the best looking cameras i've ever seen and there's not many of them. one of my favorite together with our czechoslovakian meopta admira. one thing's puzzling me, though, concerning the fairchild. how is the sound synchronized if the sound head is few inches beyond the lens? does it have a delay system? anyway, thanks for great videos!
I967 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment. The Fairchild Sound Projector has the same spacing between the lens & sound head as the camera, therefore it sync'd perfectly. The spacing is needed because the film starts & stops at the shutter but must be smooth running, like an audiotape, at the sound head.
KKD1247 2 years ago
oh, i haven't thought of that... :) does it work like this on other sound cameras? or is there a norm or something for all projectors? anyway, thanks for the answer!
I967 2 years ago
Yes...its the same principle on all sound cameras & projectors from 8mm to 70mm.
KKD1247 2 years ago
I just want to add a precision to this information. The spacing between the lens and the sound head was 52 frames in the camera. I don't know if it was the same on the Fairchild Sound Projector. But for sure it wasn't the same on other projectors. I own a Fairchild Cinephonic Camera since 1966 and a Fujica Sound Projector and I have used them a lot (many thousand feet of film). The Fujica projector has a spacing between lens and sound head of 56 frames, a standard that came after 1959 for 8mm.
GBernier1 2 years ago
You are correct. The spacing on the Fairchild System (camera & projector) was different than all other sound systems.
KKD1247 2 years ago
@GBernier1 I have this camera for sell....contact me please
cbd2tbone2 1 year ago
finally you got it
MyGamerTV 2 years ago
can you still get double 8 film for this? if so where?
ggoerl 2 years ago
Limited supplies, yes. Fresstyle Sales sells some B&W and I think Dwayne's Photo offers some color film.
KKD1247 2 years ago
thanks for the response, also is it possible to run off an external battery? just incase the internal battery doesnt take a charge?
ggoerl 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment. I have not heard from anyone regarding the quality of the sound.
KKD1247 2 years ago
It could of course have been the age of the camera, the wear or azimuth on the recording head or the same on the projector that I had - although the projector did a good job of projecting it's own and other sound films. It may have been the stripe. Either way it was an expensive way to make fluttery muffled sound films. I've also noted there's a sentence missing from that comment - should have said ..external battery, and you could get film from Superior...
spikedouglas 2 years ago
Sound was good. Have one I bought when I was in Alaska
rvictorb 2 years ago
Hiya, I have the zoom reflex of version of this camera. The batteries were also dead when I got it back in about 1978. I took them out and added an external Superior in the USA (I am in UK). The first time I got 16mm striped stock reperforated to 8, just had sound on one run, the second time I got someone to stripe some stock for me. Both times the quality was not good, Kodak's super8 sound was better and cheaper.
spikedouglas 2 years ago
You should take a video from modern day with this camera!
woodstock12345678910 2 years ago
I wish I could! Odd size batteries are dead - & I'm pretty sure Cinephonic film is long gone. :-(
KKD1247 2 years ago
Do you have any reviews of early VHS cameras?????
trainboy94 3 years ago
Sorry....no I don't.
ERD1277 3 years ago
Thanks, Kerry!
Beautiful job in creating this video posting!
I found my old Fairchild camera just yesterday in my garage filled with little tech treasures and of course, discovered your clip moments ago!
Question: I assume that you had to carry around some sort of a change bag in order to flip over the half-exposed spool to shoot the other side, correct?
Anyway!
Way cool!
Richard Links
Berkeley, Ca
Marantzguy 3 years ago
A changing bag never hurts but I never carried one. Kodak and other film mfgs always gave an extra foot or two of film that they knew would be light-struck from loading. After developing, the lab would snip off most of it & your film would look fine.
KKD1247 3 years ago
Very interesting demonstration, the brownie is cool to, hope you post more videos in the future :)
bammeu 3 years ago
never seen this camera before!!
come and visit me in Switzerland, i am located just less than 1 mile from the BOLEX factory... welcome!
GM
grandmarquisinspace 3 years ago
that would be awesome if we could see footage shot with that camera.
AdobeProductions 3 years ago
I know - me too! I've been looking across the net but haven't found any.
KKD1247 3 years ago
nice camera.
cinescopefilms 3 years ago
these nostalgic cameras are very intriguing! Thanks for making this video, It taught me a thing or two: I now can tell my friends what a d-mount lens system is!
Filmmaker920 3 years ago
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed my video. D-mount lenses are on 8mm cameras...and C-mount lenses are on 16mm.
KKD1247 3 years ago
That was second-hand Cadillac money in 1959. On my paper route I had a used car lot customer that later turned out to be a front for a bookie joint and he had some $509 Caddies. These cameras were advertised in "Pegasus" magazine, a mostly aviation Fairchild Industries organ for employees. My
father worked for their Engine Division.
whizbang47 3 years ago
Really cool videos, but my parents had a silent double8mm camera and I have seen the film and I can't really imagine where the sound is recorded on the Fairchild camera.
If you can clear this up to me.
Gramophones 16.10.2008
Gramophones 3 years ago
The Fairchild took a special type of 8mm film. First, the film was 50' long rather than the Kodak 25' rolls. The magnetic sound track was a VERY thin stripe located between the perforations and the edge of the film.
KKD1247 3 years ago
i was going to ask how come you never got to use it,it isnt working? such a shame,it looks almost like an old german car,dont ask why haha
hartnell114 3 years ago
That projector looks just like a reel-to-reel tape player. Probably because it IS a tape player, playing back the magnetic audio on the film. The entire setup, if you bought it all from that catalog, looks like it would have cost a fortune and a half back then.
TheSwillMan 3 years ago
With one std lens and a basic projector with no extras...it cost $510 in 1960. I was about 12 then and there would be NO WAY my Dad would have bought that for me!
KKD1247 3 years ago
Really great job on this one and the Brownie.
Very interesting,your videos are worth the time to watch and learn. And are always fun too, keep up the great work.
miledbill 3 years ago 2
Thank YOU! I really appreciate these comments.
KKD1247 3 years ago
pretty cool boss! ive been starting to pickup old photo camera's at garage sales. no video ones yet.
gunmaster1981 3 years ago 2
Nice Kerry keep the great videos up!
pcrox200 3 years ago 2
Excellent video. Many thanks.
numpty1972 3 years ago 2