Walker Talisman Demonstration from Sound Mind Audio

[sheltiemanva]

I bet you can buy a Shun Mook disc at this guys shop, too!

[donepearce]

The man is a tit.

[dadybik]

a talisman oh no! such a suck!

[benjieeeeee]

Daveteauk - I know you probably have your masters in Physics, Electrical and Mechanical engineering from MIT but magnets do dispel static electricity. Please read my next comment

[Daveteauk]

Poor poor analogJ - you seem to be blinded by these idiots who want to sell you something that costs next to nothing, for hundreds of bucks. Magnets do NOT dispel static - end of story.

[benjieeeeee]

All atoms contain negatively charged electrons and positively charged protons along with neutral neutrons. If there were no way to separate these charges there would be no such phenomena as electricity or magnetism. Static electricity consists of an unbalance of positive and negative charges. An abundunce of electrons produces a net negative charge, and an abundance of protons, a positive.

[benjieeeeee]

If charges flow through space or along a conductor, an electric current results. Electric currents produce magnetism. Remove the magnetism and you remove electrical static.

[Daveteauk]

benjieeeeeeeeee - static and magnetic charges ARE real, yes - but are you??? How can anyone who has the ability to use a PC come out with so much mindless rubbish - magnets do not dispel static, and static does NOT effect the way a laser sees/reads pits in a disc - hey, come over to my place, I have loads of things you'd wanna buy - I'll sell you Tower Bridge in London too if ya want:-)

[Daveteauk]

benjieeeeeeeee, it's YOU who are missing the point - magnets, no matter how strong, do not and will niot remove static from anything anyhow anywhere. It's another moneymaking scam to get idiots to spend money on snake oil - I challenge anyone of you who thinks they hear a difference to do it 'blind' and then see.

[AnalogJ]

Well, guys and gals -- This thing works!!! The downside is that its effect is temporary, sometimes not working through the entire CD or record side.

Last week, I was listening to a jazz CD and the bottom end was a bit indistinct and boomy. I went to my CD player, took out the CD, grabbed the Talisman and ran it over each side several times, and then put the CD back in the player. The bottom end was tight, tuneful and boominess was gone. Those who doubt should trust their ears and try it.

[WVUtubadude]

I love how all of these snake oil guys go out and buy "$40,000" systems when the music they listen to was probably mixed on a pair of Yamaha NS-10s. hahahaha

[randycornhole]

I have a powerful magnet. Anybody wanna buy it for $150...?

You save money and get an open sound stage to boot. No one looses...

[benjieeeeee]

Once again you people are missing the point of the Talisman. The magnet is removing electrostatic charges that build up on the vinyl. CD's and LP's are made of plastic and there is a whole lot of static in plastic. We have all experience small shocks when we touch plastic item ( I am not talking about when the old lady is out using your credit card ) and we have seen how dust clings to plastic, its static. The Talisman removes a lot of this static charge. It makes a difference!

[1wibble2]

@benjieeeeee Once again you're ignoring basic science. CD players read the shape of pits in the surface via a laser. Any electro static charge is irrelivant. Again, a vinyl stylus is a physical object being moved by a physical grove. Never mind the fact that randomly waving a magnet around doesn't magically remove charges anyway!. Man I gotta start up a company selling expensive crap like this, there's one born every minute. Ever notice now these snake oil companys NEVER publish provable data?

[benjieeeeee]

Static and magnetic charges are real and they do effect how a laser reads information. Why do you think when cd/dvd 's are made they are in super clean rooms free of static charge? It is important. As for vinyl, the stylus goes through the groove picking up the information. Most cartridges use very small amounts of power to convert this information to sound which is why you need a phono preamp to be able to play the album. The less static and magnetic charge, the better the material will sound.

[RichardEllisxyz]

Sorry guys, but an album is made of PLASTIC...Which happens to be NON-MAGNETIC!  So you just wasted your money on this load-o-crap. But there is such a thing as a placebo.......so just keep on thinking it will do some good, perception is everything for some people. Engineer types like myself will just snicker in the corner.

[AnalogJ]

LPs are not simply plastic. Standard vinyl is colored black by carbon added to the pellets which are then melted down to be stamped into records. That carbon in the "vinyl" can and does hold static charges. The Talisman serves to destatic the LP. Unfortunately, its effects are temporary, not always staying strong throughout the entire side's play. It does work, and it's easy to hear the sonic benefits with a system that is resolving enough.

[Shadowplaytime]

I suppose that the best track to try this gadget out, will be AutosSuggestion by Joy Division (as in the Substance compilation)... :-)

[vincedog3]

There is a term that describes that if you modified or performed an action on you hifi, it must empirically be better since you had to work at it. I forget this syndrome's name, but boy this Talisman makes me wonder. If you believe it works, more power to you.

[dracoony1978sg]

I lol'd. Voodoo-crap for people with tooooo much money.

[DASJOTUNHEIM666]

waterloo rules

[etownrule]

Nice 200 dollar magnet...

Thats placebo for ya :)

[toth1971]

load of shit...i totally agree with vincedog3

[benjieeeeee]

I own the talisman and I can tell you it is the BEST $200 that I ever spent on an audiio tweek. My vinyl never sounded better. For those people who think its snake oil or a bunch of crap. Keep listening to your I-Pods, that probably the extent of your high end audio sound.

[vincedog3]

Actually, my Ipod is running files that are Uncompressed .AIFF and runs great in my car and with my cool Sennheiser Earbuds anyplace I want. I do use high end 2 track Reel to Reels that make the records you hear. So I wouldn't claim that the Ipod is the limit of anyone's listening arsenal because of their different point of view or direction of their audio journey.

My Linux server with a Triode tube output DAC with uncompressed music is next.

[benjieeeeee]

You are supporting the very point that I am making. Your trying to compare an I-pod with some .AIFF files and listening to them through some ear buds and you think this is high end sound. Go to a high end audio store and listen to a $40,000 system and experience real high end sound. Then use the talisman and hear the true impact this magnet has on recorded music.

[pastryhat]

what the fuck does it do?

[zagyex]

well i don't believe in these things

[a1aztec]

Wow, did you guys notice when he is talking and get the talisman close to  his body his voice sounded warmer?...

LOL

[Orcinus24x5]

Snake-oil for sale, guaranteed to cure what ails you. :P Or rather, guaranteed to lighten your wallet while the con-artists skip town.

[vincedog3]

I would like to know how the vinyl holds a magnetic charge since you have carbon black for color and the other constituent components have no metallic qualities. I almost can understand the CD, but want to know more about the vinyl side. Not arguing that it does or does not make a difference. Just trying to further understand the premise at least.

[soundmindaudio]

Hey, Vince!

Frankly, it's all beyond me.  I only know it works! Contact Lloyd Walker!

[jumpingjackplank]

indeed, a fool and his money are easily separated

[mhgrabow]

If you like this, I have a $5000 power cord I would like to sell you.

[AnalogJ]

I have heard $5000 cords that do anything for me, and some inexpensive ones that do, AND vice-versa. They DO, if your ears and system are up to it, sound different. Whether one is better than another is up to your ears and it fits in your system. Putting money into something does not guarantee success, but like anything that has more care and has more mechanical effort and time, certain things do cost more than others. Hopefully, improvements trickle down to lower cost items.

[AnalogJ]

I own one. It does work -- the effect is more pronounced on CDs than LPs, but it does work. The effect does seem to wear off. I'm not even sure it lasts through an entire CD, from my ears. The treated CD has more clarity, better music flow, more depth. 

I don't know if this works with the same scientific principle as the Furutech LP demagnetizer, but Michael Fremer SWEARS by the latter and I believe him.

[pavelle]

i hope u are just kidding, cause how should it affect on a cd, which contains just digital informations in the form of fixed bits and bytes.

also it doesnt have ANY effect on vinyl.

Please guys, use ur brain and pick up some physics lessons off! this guy is talking shit to make business or he's just a hardcore audio freak who lost his mind. :)

[AnalogJ]

Look it works! It's about the magnetic field and how it affects how the laser is able to read the information. Same with the stylus on the vinyl record. The component that makes the vinyl black is capable of holding a magnetic charge and affects the record. However, if you're truly inquisitive and not simply flat earther, check it out for yourself and do an experiment. I'm a skeptic too, but if I can hear repeatable improvements, great!

[f6550171]

i m thinking of getting the talisman..does it reduces static noise/surface distortion noise.and in general does the sound really improve to the extend that its noticeable even by amateur listener like me..also i tot you should touch the edge of the record with ur right hand while de-mag as recomended by the manufactuer?

[leehazlewoodism]

There's an even more expensive device that does the same thing. It's made by Furutech and can measurably lower the magnetism of a record from very little to slightly less than very little. If you read their technical information it reduces magnetism by something like 8%. Oh, and it costs £1,300. Fremer said it was fantastic.

[paulcrowder]

If you get any buyers for this, send them my way. I have some magic dust they can sprinkle on their wives to make them hotter.

[sme4thorens]

The big question is HOW MUCH??

I must say I took your idea and used my magnetic pickup tool, small wand with magnet on end. Placed it close to cd surface and went around it on both sides. I do hear better sounding cds. I have cds that make a scratching sound (recorded way out to end of cd) and when I use my magnet they play great. I have to try it on my turntable, haven't done that yet. Thanks for the idea!

[soundmindaudio]

Nope. Try it, and call me to let me know how it works on your cartridge. It is most definitely NOT a joke. I have yet to find a cartrige on which this doesn't make a SIGNIFICANT improvement. If you've never done it, keep the contacts together for at least 45 seconds to a minute. It'll be like taking a blanket off your system. If it's not HUGE for you, something is up with your system.

[ohotis]

This is a joke, right?

[23forever23]

Works great on hard drives too!

[soundmindaudio]

I wouldn't know about that one! Take care, and have fun!

[MaXvOlskate]

Wave a magnet over your CD's?... Great advice NUMBNUTS...

self proclaimed audiophiles are so full of shit.

[soundmindaudio]

I have no idea who you are, or why you would take time to be so rude, but what I'm putting out there works. You've obviously never heard a Talisman, but that's OK. When you're ready please visit a dealer for a demo. Cynics who have good ears are my favorite clients!

[ohotis]

You are not alone.

This is a scam.

[daz2084]

How does this work?

[soundmindaudio]

I have NO idea. All I know is that it DOES. The demag trick was shown to me years ago, and it's worked on every cartridge I've ever tried.