The Myth of Man Made Global Warming 2

[checkyoursources]

Please try and name a more likely explanation than AGW for the majority of warming since the 1970's.

[sonatadude]

Why is Embedding disabled? I could make this video go viral.

[Tafia2006]

Finlandcitizen (2 months ago)

Google

Meanwhile,

more than 90,000 direct measurements of CO2 in the atmosphere,

carried out in America, Asia, and Europe between

1812 and 1961, with excellent chemical methods (accuracy

better than 3%), were arbitrarily rejected.

And you will find it

[Tafia2006]

goog2K,

If you werent so gullible and knew even a little science, you would be aware that a warmer ocean would hold less CO2 so quite how it could cause increased acidification is a mystery. Kinda defies the laws of physics

Why do you think they put champagne on ice? Could it be that wine waiters are more aware of the science than you and know that cold champagne will release less bubbles ( CO2) when the cork is popped whereas a warm bottle would foam the ceiling when opened.

Do keep up.

[goog2k]

Dissolved CO2 makes acid.

By 2100, at current rates of increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide, average ocean pH will drop 0.3 - 0.4 and be @ 7.8 with an increase in acidic H+ ion concentration of 150-200%.

That will cause a 50% DECREASE of ocean carbonate ions (CO3).

Carbonate ions are needed for growth by plankton & corals at the base of the ocean's food chain.

Oops!!!

For info. on CO2 ocean acidification check:

Dr. Richard Feely, NOAA

Ocean Acidification Part 1 of 3

/watch?v=0KgRpJxWQDw&NR=1

[Thisawareness]

Sorry Marxist warm-mongers

The UN's climate science body has admitted that a claim made in its 2007 report - that Himalayan glaciers could melt away by 2035 - was unfounded.

The admission today followed a New Scientist article last week that revealed the source of the claim made in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was not peer-reviewed scientific literature but a media interview with a scientist conducted in 1999

Liars, frauds & railroad conductors!

[Homerp68]

IPCC Fourth Assessment Report: Climate Change 2007.

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal.

Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic (human) greenhouse gas concentrations.

[DaveDooval]

No actually, if you were to pass elementary school science, you'd know that water ice takes up more space than liquid water. Therefore, if the ice caps did melt, the sea level would go down. So put a sock in it you uneducated brain-washed government sucking cunt bag.

[Tafia2006]

tkloszewski

Explain to me the Holocene Optimum, 4 degrees warmer than the present; explain to me the Roman Warm Period, explain to me the Medieval Warm Period, explain to me the Little Ice Age.

Explain to me the Late Ordovician Ice Age when CO2 was 12 times higher than now.

Explain to me why the IPCC ignored 90,000 accurate measurements of CO2 levels over the last 100 years, many way above present level of 380 ppmbv.

Explain.

Explain to me what caused that warming and cooling.

[bluballzzz]

hey bitch when u are in a boat floating above ur house ull think diffrent

[Mickmars90]

Hey bitch you didn't answer his question

[Finlandcitizen]

@Tafia2006

Actually, might I get a link on that

"Explain to me why the IPCC ignored 90,000 accurate measurements of CO2 levels over the last 100 years, many way above present level of 380 ppmbv." part?

[Tafia2006]

tkloszewski

Can't you do your own research?

You would find Arctic temperatures were higher in the Forties than now.

2007 sea ice loss was due to winds blowing ice south into warmer waters. (NASA)

2008 data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) has indicated a dramatic increase in sea ice extent in the Arctic regions. The growth over the past year covers an area of 700,000 square kilometers: an amount twice the size of Germany.

You were saying?

[tkloszewski]

So explain me the the lowest volume on record in 2008 of Arctic sea ice and lowest extent in 2007. Explain me the 2003 heat waves in Europe that killed several thousand of people.

[tueulator]

Al Gore is lost..

it is ONLY 2 degrees here today.. it is never that cold in December here.. ever....

Al is a dick....

[BeanGene]

Emotional FEAR - it is a time honored tool. Think about it. The boogy man is going to destroy us, Terrorism, Communism, the Russian, The Japs, Cubian Missles, illegal alien invation, drugs, gangs, degenerates, jobs are dwindling, crisis, Crisis, CRISIS Ahhh... The sky is falling, the government is growing and the moola is flowing... CRISIS, Crisis, crisis.

Just turn the television off - its a game to keep you in a state of stress.

[mikesdjftr]

dont get me started... it exsists

[minilemur]

yes, best you don't get started. It doesn't exist. There hasn't been any warming for the last 10 years. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[mikesdjftr]

yes it does. all the records where breaking in my country, australia having serius droughts, when i was in zimbabwe it hadn't rained for 7 months, amazons are having shifting weather of not enough rain, glaciers the size of states are breaking off, and so on. Maybe travel and do soem research and you would understand

[minilemur]

correction mikesdjftr - perhaps you should travel less and study more. That way you would learn to avoid the elementary statistical error you make in your post (confirmation bias based on unrepresentative samples). Anyone can point to some examples of extreme weather around the global from every single year for the3 last thousand years. So what? Since when haven't there been serious droughts in Africa from time to time? Since when hasn't it been normal for glaciers to calve off in the summer?

[mikesdjftr]

so you beleive global warming doesn't exsist? well i do. so don't try and change my veiws and i won t to yours you can beleive what you wanna beleive even though i think ur a dumb ass. Just bugs me look outside both your eyes

[minilemur]

correction mikesdjftr - it's my moral duty to let you know when your ideas ares stupid and dangerous to the welfare of humanity. I take it as an honour that you think I am a dumb ass since that is clearly what you are. It is intersting that rather than debating the science you put your foot in your mouth and shoot of with dumb insults.

Stop posturing like some dumb puppet of the eco-alarmists, open your eyes, and if you think you have any evidence that global warming is happening, provide it.

[mikesdjftr]

you already asked and i gave you some. your a fucking moron if you think its not happening and its because the sun is getting bigger. it obv does exsist stop listening to your little conspiricy videos and theries saying it doesn't and trying to prove it wrong. like your youtube is fucking dedicated to it. I dont care what you beleive but i know for sure we have first of all destroyed our planet and caused climate change and mmany issues surrounding our humanity and planet.

[minilemur]

mikesdjftr - no you are the "fucking moron". So stupid are you that you post statements claiming you have already given evidence when you haven't.

I think you might win an award for the most stupid statement of the 21st century so far, when you state "we have all destroyed our planet". Duh! idiot - look outside your window. The planet is still there.

As for your statement that we have caused many issues - it could mean anything or nothing.

Zero evidence. Maximum verbal diarrhoea.

[mikesdjftr]

are you fucking joking me. we are destroying our planet. look at how we make nukes, over hunt, over fish, over sue our forest, over take our resources and so on, kill each other in war. We are destroying our planet. Im sorry your too fucking stuck up to see it.

[minilemur]

mikesdjftr - no I am not "fucking joking" you. Far from being too fucking stuck up to see it I am seeing through your alarmist crap.

What an idiot you are. Don't you realise there is less threat of nuclear war than there used to be? There are more acres of forest on the planet now than in 1950. Far fewer people die in wars than used to do. Over fishing is coming under control. Over hunting is coming under control. The planet is not being destroyed. You need to get out more.

[mikesdjftr]

im sorry get out more? did you not just tell me to dont travel and stay in and research more. I've done both. Stop making your little fucking conspiricy theories saying how it doesn't exsist. Do you know how many fish become extinct a year? i bet you don't. Do you know how many acres of rainforest and city forest is chopped down every year. Im sure your fucking dumb ass doesnt. Im positive its you that doesnt do research. And more nukes being made right now isnt a threat? fucking idiot!

[minilemur]

mikesdjrth - Extinction of fish is particularly complicated, witness the coelacanth which was thought to be extinct till rediscovered in the seas around Madagascar.

Besides, are you claiming that CO2 is responsible for over-fishing, or cutting down rainforests? This is normally done by people rather than gases. You attempt to turn complex local/regional environmental challenges into a simple, quasi-religious hysteria about a harmless single gas. Most stupidly, you confuse nukes with CO2! Duh!

[mikesdjftr]

cutting down trees is causing co2 issues expecially with how we get our power with coal and stuff. And all the cars and buildings doesnt help. i know c02 has only a slight part of gases on earth. But that little amount can easily kill us. and i wasnt confusing nukes with c02. I was saying not only we have caused global warming we have created many other problems

[minilemur]

correction yet again mickeymouse. There is no evidence that a tiny increqase in a trace gas can have major effects. Global warming has not been happening since 1998 despite increasing CO2 emissions. QED. Which bit of that do you not understand? (probably the "QED").

[mikesdjftr]

the evidence is areas of antarctica having glaciers melting the size of city states. That is evidence. And without the snow the suns rays need more to reflect on so it warms the water without all the ice to help reflect. Also Co2 is like a greenhouse. With the more warmth coming it gets trapt

[minilemur]

mikesdjrthqjkdjkd - correction again. Glaciers melting is perfectly normal - especially in summer and absolutely no evidence whatsoever of trends in climate. It is an inevitable part of the life cycle of any glacier that it ends by calving and dropping into the sea.

Recent scientific research has demonstrated that the oceans have in fact been cooling in the last few years.

CO2 is not not like a greenhouse you dumb idiot! One is a rare gas and the other is a wall of glass! Duh!

[mikesdjftr]

stop saying theirs no evidence because their is. Glaciers dont grow back. Sure some melts in summer. But glaciers dont grow back expeically the one that broke off the size of a state. And yes eartch is like a greenhouse and with the more c02 its warmer im not gonna explain it too you. And with glaciers we can see how much c02 and test the whether many years ago and its way diff from now. Face it dumb ass.

[minilemur]

There is not a single valid data set that you can point to which shows unambiguous evidence of man-made global warming.

Glaciers are a particularly poor example. Those glaciers that are retreating began doing so in the 18th century, so the retreat has nothing to do with modern CO2 emissions. Some glaciers are retreating, others are advancing.

90% of the world's glaciers are in Antarctica and these have also probably been growing.

Earth isn't like a greenhouse. CO2 is not like glass.

[mikesdjftr]

im saying the eartch has a greenhouse effect. And the glaciers are retreating faster than they ever have. And their are so many mountains which are as well retreating. Glaciers arnt the only issue. Its the constant droughts where its hard to farm in certain areas now. And not to mention the pollution of oceans and lakes and rivers where certain areas fish cant live their anymore as well as birds and many other animals.

[minilemur]

The greenhouse effect is very different from an actual greenhouse. For one thing it's logarithmic, which means as you keep adding more CO2 it has LESS further effect. Even the IPCC admits this!. Glaciers are retreating neither faster nor slower than previously on average. Mountains aren't retreating - that is totally stupid.

Pollution of lakes has NOTHING to do with CO2 or global warming. There has been no increase in droughts.

[mikesdjftr]

no increase in droughts. Yes their is in australia and all over africa. When i was their it hadnt rained in 7months. Every year it breaks te record. Just cause it doesnt effect your country yet doesnt mean it doesnt exsist.

[minilemur]

mike of limited intelligence - I'm glad you mentioned Australia. There is no increase in droughts there. Palaeontological studies have shown that Australia has suffered far worse droughts in the past.

How dumb can you be to think that one example of a drought tells you anything statistically significant about trends.

Same with Africa - you dolt - there have always been droughts there.

Individual extreme weather events are not statistically significant of any trend in climate change.

[mikesdjftr]

wtf r u tlaking about limited intelegence. im not a fucking blind retard as yourself that can not see with their own eyes that it exsists. Your forcing your opinion that it doesnt by saying.. "its been worse," when in many areas it hasnt. And with glaciers when their all gone they cant come back without another ice age. But with all the co2 and warming in our planet that wont happen. And it many countries it breaks the record every year expecially where i was. Get off your fucking ass and golook

[laxfanVT]

rofl at more forest than there used to be.... Definatley wrong there. You think trees grow faster than we harvest them? lol

[minilemur]

laxfanVT - on the contrary, there are more acres of forest on the planet now than in the 1950s. Just check the facts for yourself. A good starting point is Bjorn Lomborg's classic "The Skeptical Environmentalist".

Yes, tress do grow faster than they're harvested, if you harvest them in an appropriate manner, and in appropriate quantities over appropriate time periods.

[Yagei11]

alright man i respect your beleifs.

[alienevolved]

smoothing out the data.lol!!

chaotic systems are just that,CHAOTIC,AS IN UN PREDICTABLE,AS IN I DONT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN

READ CHAOS BY JAMES GLIECK

IVE GOT A MODEL UFO, DOESNT MEAN IME AN INTERGALACTIC SPACEMAN

[minilemur]

Well done Orinoco - keep up the good work. It increasingly looks like 2007 was the tipping point when the flood of peer-reviewed articles rebutting the CO2 hypothesis has begun sweeping away the nonsense of the global alarmists.

[Tafia2006]

Agreed 1998 saw a strong EL Nino but we now know the hottest years in the last 100 were in the Thirties not the Nineties even with the help of the 1998 El Nino. NASA has now admitted it's error. What caused the Thirties heat?

[Tafia2006]

Skylofts.

There has been no warming since 1998 though CO2 levels have risen. How can this be?

[skylofts]

What?! Read a current issue of Scientific American.

[skylofts]

1998 was an anomaly and the trend has not reversed and, was a record high year in both CRU and NASA GISS analyses. In fact, it exceeded previous record by .2 degrees C. (That previous record went all the way back to 1997, by the way!) According to NASA, it was elevated far above the trend line because 1998 was the year of the strongest El Nino of the century.

[skylofts]

Choosing that 1998 as a starting point is a classic cherry pick (pointing at individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position)and shows why it is necessary to remove chaotic year-to year-variability (aka: weather) by smoothing out the data.

[grewmj]

considering the Earth is some 4 billion years old I'd say that making any assumptions about the earths climate based on human recordings over the last hundred years is a foolish thing to do. How much can you actually learn about trends and cycles of something as complex as the earth's climate by observing it for .0000000025% of its existence?

[buffalobill007]

Yeah, scientists are stupid. Let's wait a few more hundreds of years to gather 'enough' info. I'm sure the climate problem will resolve itself by then, and in the meantime we can recklessly pollute!

[minilemur]

buffalobill007 you sound just like sheepbill007 - victim of your own sarcasm - yeeah the HUNDREDS of scientists who challenge global warming mythology and the CO2 dogma must be wrong because you say so!

Oh my god the Earth will be destroyed in a million years time! We haven't got a second to spare! Duh!

[EvilPupsi]

yeah the "HUNDREDS of scientists who challenge global warming mythology and the CO2 dogma must be wrong" because THOUSANDS of scientists say so! Today nobody actually denies a global warming at least as long as they consider themselvses as reasonable.

Here in Germany we dont even have a real winter anymore. Well maybe for one week but it used to be a few months wasnt it?

I dont know what sources u all rely to but if u take a look at all the recent publications u'll come to the same sollution

[minilemur]

Nonsense Evilpupsi - thousands of scientists don't say anything of the sort. Plenty of politicians, bureaucrats, Al Gores, hack journalists and loony greens say that, but they're not scientists. In any case, the first thing you should have learnt in school had you been paying attention was that science method is based on evidence and argument, not on statements by scientists.

You are wrong about Germany even though you live there! Look around you: there hasn't been any warming for 10 years.

[EvilPupsi]

I dont rely on Al Gore, politicians or anyone u mentioned. I rely on collected evidence by numerous scientists (not just the IPCC). I've read through hundreds of articles, figures,numbers and arguments provided by both sides and if u do so urself u might also realize that most of the explanations given by the antiglobalwarming side has been scattered.

Of course i dont mean the last 10 years (im older than 10 u know?) - i mean the last 50 or 70 years in which our wintertemp. increased by 2,7C

[minilemur]

evilpupsi - What a stupid thing to say - that explanations on the antiglobalwarming side are "scattered". Well of course they are. Any demolitions of a stupid ideology will come from many scattered directions. It's as stupid as saying that opposition to Hitler and the Nazis was "scattered". So what? That doesn't make it wrong.

I don't believe your claim to have read through articles of critics of the global warming hysteria. Name them if you dare!

[skylofts]

According to the Max Planck Institute, where this work is being done, there has been no increase in solar irradiance since around 1940. This reconstruction does show an increase in the first part of the 20th century, which coincides with the warming from around 1900 until the 1940s. It's not enough to explain all the warming from those years, but it is responsible for a large portion.

[minilemur]

skylofts, and just as solar irradiance is not much greater now than in 1940 neither is global temperature!!!! - Outsiders have forced NASA to recalculate the hottest years of the last century as in the 1930s!. Oh whoops, there goes the last nail into the CO2 dogma coffin. And remember, solar variability is only one of a number of natural forcings of climate. Human Co2 may represent 0.5% of observed warming. Big deal.

[skylofts]

According to PMOD at the World Radiation Center there has been no increase in solar irradiance since at least 1978, when satellite observations began. This means that for the last thirty years, while the temperature has been rising fastest, the sun has not changed.

[domndiane]

It's amazing some of the alarmist rebuttlas I've seen here, just insults, attacks on other hand I commend those of you who make vids like this that makes me proud to be a skeptic!

[solva4]

I agree with you etiktah

[etikutah]

Cool -I can't believe man made CO2 is having the effect on climate that governments say it is. Climate change is and always has been a natural process.

[jacquilinej]

this is brill the whole world needs to see this to understand the ignorance of goverments

[orinoco7]

sampsonoff, scientists gave me this information. Read the articles mentioned and then come to an informed decision. The greatest ignorance is to reject something you obviously neither know nothing about, or are capable of contributing to without resorting to derogatory remarks. I looked to see what you as a 22 yr old had contributed to this or any other discussion but note you have no videos on line. I could delete your childish comment but won't

[Tafia2006]

Keep laughing as your taxes rise and your freedoms are removed, all based on junk science and lies from left-wing extremists pretending to be concerned environMENTALists.

[sampsonoff]

that was the most unscientific video i have ever seen. you ask questions, and then take quotes that dont even correspond to your question, or do, but without the full picture. thank you for posting though, it gave me a laugh

[BlueDragonOfUNA]

water vapor is a higher cause of global warmiing than man made Co2.

[Tafia2006]

Why do you think CO2, a vital gas without which plants would die, thus no oxygen for us, is a problem? Man's contribution ( excuse me for breathing) is less than 3% of the total circulated every year.

[jeffoh92]

all i can say is, were putting over 600 million tons of Co2 in the air every day. now ell me, do you think maybe, JUST maybe, it would be a good iea to control our Co2 and green house gasses? just a little?

[RandMoot8N]

you assume that Co2 is a significant contributor to the greenhouse effect. it is not. water vapor accounts for 95%. You assume that man's contribution is a significant portion of co2. it is not, perhaps only 3% of total co2. You assume the greenhouse effect accounts for temp. fluctuations. it does not...solar radiation does. You assume small temperature increases are bad. They are not.