Absolutely not- muslims cannot get along with other muslims; as soon as troops left Iraq the Sunnis need someone to kill so we see a huge increase in attacks on Shia; any muslim care to deny this??
This guy comes across as sincere and reasonable. But I think he is rubbish. He is no scholar and hold no credibility of wisdom. He is just ranting with modesty and passion so of course weak people will be sucked in so easily. He sounds like an atheist but making reference to Islam. And the blonde girl is just annoying.
you stupid white bitch go marry a muslim and start your life under a bedsheet but don't get caught banging your ex boyfriend or your going to get stoned to death,i have this guy on tape calling for JIHAD a totally different tune not ment for us infedils,it's night and day TAQIYYA is his second favorite word besides JIHAD in the tape i have of him, don't turn your back on these people.Learn from people like WALLY SHEBAD, not these TAQIYYA spewing cultists.
I respect the Muslim people even though im a Christian, most Americans and Christians believe Muslims are Terrorists. No, no, no, I believe that all religions, Buddhism, Chrisitanity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Taoism, Athiests, can all just get along. Amen, Amein, Om Mani Padme Hum, Aum Shanti Aum Shanti Aum Shanti,
Say: O ye that reject Faith! (Islam) I worship not that which ye worship nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. you shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. (Chapter 109)
Muslim societies don't produce anything for themselves. That's what women and slaves are for.
When a country is conquered, the infidel is placed into dhimmitude, where they are second class citizens (or third) that are forced to pay the poll tax, or jizya.
Alas if Islam were all about peace, but its completely opposite. Islam is a totalitarian philosophy and very clearly divide people between Muslims and others. It reject completely the pluralism, any other way of worship, any other law than Sharia. Not following Islam is clear sin and killing them is duty and a way to achieve heaven. In recent time and in coming years this is the single most reason of widespread fear and bloodshed.
Peace be upon you. Upon reading you comment, i felt sad because most of the non-muslims don't know Islam well.Please don't judge a religion merely based on what other people who don't know Islam say about Islam and that includes most of the media.Contrary to what u said, Islam is peace.The word Islam itself means peace.And no,it does not divide people or any races.You can say that u've seen muslims who kill or "terrorize" people. But those are not the true followers of Islam.
@amalinacb How nice it would have if what you say was ever true. It appears that either you did not read your own scriptures or if yes, then try to lie completely. People to be bad is never so dangerous as is when philosophy. Islam is totally exclusive ideology and very clearly differentiate. All texts are available everywhere and even now, I have the very so called holy book opened in front of me. I belong to a place where I have seen all with my naked eyes and have watched their lifestyle.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Do you want me to give the sentences from the Quran and hadith, or do you want me to mention the constant barbarism performed by the community and rulers on other communities over thousand of years. Or do you want me to mention the state and functioning of all those Muslim dominated countries where the life of other community turning to be hell or do you want me to mention the quotes of your own scholars which is just opposite what you are trying to say.
@amalinacb its not for non Muslim to know Islam as it is for Muslim to know Islam and know the truth before its too late. Its not a religion but a political agenda started by a person who was not even a descent human by any standard. He performed such heinous crimes that if someone has done such thing now, might have hanged multiple times.When someone reads through the book its don't take even a minutes to realize that these message are delivered by some evil power for the destruction..
@amalinacb Do you want me to give the sentences from the Quran and hadith, or do you want me to mention the constant barbarism performed by the community and rulers on other communities over thousand of years. Or do you want me to mention the state and functioning of all those Muslim dominated countries where the life of other community turning to be hell or do you want me to mention the quotes of your own scholars which is just opposite what you are trying to say.
@amalinacb Allah is not a God but a term used by a diseased person. God never need messenger nor any help from human to spread his ideology. God's will are performed by the divine rules which spreads into human being. Human ascends or descends into higher or lower state based upon is Karma. Every single human and all creatures have equal rights over this universe. Human is made diverse and anybody trying to monotonic this is sure to be an evil and only evil is hungry of power and slavery.
Have you read all the chapters in the Quran? My advice is you shouldwith an open heart.
Again, i am not any great scholar of Islam, and there are a lot more that i need to learn about my religion so that I can gain God's blessings. Many people view the Quran even before they started to read it as something that is not Gospel Truth and they have set their minds on it that their hearts could not understand the message that is to be told.
@amalinacb its high time for people like you to go and read other scriptures particularly Vedas and Bhagvat Gita, then you would know what does it mean by God, what is peace. Open your mind and know what is karma, what is yoga, what is meditation(the ultimate physical way to get peace), what is the purpose of the creation of this whole world. How God created human with all faiths and diversity to exist, and Islam is hell bent to destroy all these and convert into a pact monotonic society.
@amalinacb Hundreds of community spread over earth was following their faiths and lives, when Islam arrived and disturbed whole equilibrium of earth. One after other states were attached and the state power used to convert masses into Muslims and those refused massacred . Thousand and thousands of worship places destroyed. The process of expansion continues till now. There are millions of reasons to reject this ideology and but not even a single in favor.
@amalinacbYou cant judge the truth of one fact but first accepting it, rather one has to be neutral when looking for truth. Digging head in sand and thinking that ghost does not exist cant solve anything. There is fear, there is uneasiness all over the world, the danger of civilization war is looming large on societies and still if one denies to accept the truth then what. How many more centuries and how many more bloodshed required to prove that Ghost indeed exist.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Well, you have just read a couple of texts from the internet and then believed them to be true without checking their authenticity and what is worse is that you didn't bother to give it a little thought of how was life 1430 years ago.
ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an: " Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
@OmarAbbas2007 "didn't bother to give it a little thought of how was life 1430 years ago.." Well it means the whole Quran has nothing to do with God and its all been constructed by Human. I understand brother, but I afraid neither you nor your Muslims fellows understand it that the Islam has nothing to do with God and its all written by Human.I agree. let you Muslims agree for this that there is no Allah and there is nothing divine in it.
@RoyaleBengalTiger I have actually said this to point to the word you stated about slaving girls. Can you tell me what would have been the fate of these women whose husbands were killed if they were left in the deserts of the Arabian peninsula ?
@OmarAbbas2007" I have actually said this to point to the word you stated about slaving girls.." Does it required to have sex with the girl the same night when whose father, brother and husband killed. I don't know what moral standard allow a person of 50 years to marry a six year girl. What such moral standard it needed to force his foster son to divorce his wife so that he marry her and marry and have sex the same time she divoreced. How many things will you justify, its unending.
@OmarAbbas2007 "what would have been the fate of these women ..." There are many solutions, than to distribute them to their soldiers to rape them and humiliate them. But yes, this is perhaps too difficult for you to understand. Actually for you all such sins are allowed by Allah because you are following his words. Did you people ever try to check what if all these messages been delivered by some evil force, which is more than 100% possibility.
@OmarAbbas2007 "you have just read a couple of texts from the internet ..." Well I read from Internet. I think you did not bother check the how many Muslim Organization are active all over the world and on internet to lure people to convert. Nobody else is more active on internet than Islam to spread falsely that Islam is peaceful. The text of Quran is put on internet by you own organizations.
If you want this an agreement where you're already determined not to check anything about Islam or listen to the answers to your falsely interpreted Verses or Hadiths, then lets stop it right now.
If you actually need to listen and check my answers to your questions, then lets keep it going on .
@OmarAbbas2007 "If you want this an agreement where you're already determined not to check ..." Of course I have no interests in whatever you are saying and I have nothing to do with Islam and anything related with it. I find myself extremely lucky that God has put me out of this sphere where I can see Human with the eyes of Human, where I can love everybody without knowing his faith and never have greed either of heaven nor the fear of hell. the complete peace.
@OmarAbbas2007 ".., then lets stop it right now..." Yes stop it, I have interest to your words and I have my head with me. Keep your logic with yourself and I'll keep my logic with myself.
@OmarAbbas2007 Well, I don't think so. Even have no such eagerness to meet with you. And yes, its better correct your religion than to teach its meaning to others. Good luck to you too.
@RoyaleBengalTiger A final word to you. You're replies were quite pathetic and most of them were like these are just lies. You're just following your brain and nothing else. As long as sth said is bad about Islam then it's true while anything good is of course false. I bet that such mentality won't help you much in your life. Did you know now why you were mentioned in the Qur'an as blind ?? You'll answer that question.
@OmarAbbas2007" You'll answer that question.." No I'll not answer, because this is not the question and I know you will not accept anything else than written in your book.
@OmarAbbas2007" As long as sth said is bad about Islam then it's true while anything good is of course false.." You know why Hitler was supposed to be such a bad person, in fact he did not kill anybody with his hand. Its not matter about any object , its question about an ideology. An ideology is millions time more dangerous than any other thing. Even single wrong word in any ideology is dangerous, if they are in abundance then one can just imagine, this is what with Islam.
@OmarAbbas2007 "bet that such mentality won't help you much in your life. .." It appears that you know nothing about mind, life, spirituality. Anyway everybody has get the fruits of his actions, its applied to me and its applies to everybody. Rather you take care. I have my God with me and I know what is life, what is religion, what is evil and what is the truth. Hope people like you will wake from the dreams of Heaven and fear of hell.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Hello brother or sister in humanity, in life :) peace and love, you said something very correct that concludes everything about God and his religion ( religion = no dogma nor pressure ) "Anyway everybody has get the fruits of his actions, its applied to me and its applies to everybody." It is it! Welcom to Islam/the soumission to God volontarly or not, you will be always captured by your work/actions/acts ^^ That's all the rule of God, simple, and agreed from all <3
@ThePrideglory Lol, this was expected, if nothing then claim, somebody's house are yours just to increase headcount. Law of karma is the divine concept of Hinduism and its universal to all human no matter from which faith or belief. It does not required to be Hindu or a Muslim or Christian to be good. Good is good and bad is bad, if this simple fact you people have understood, there would have never been the blood bath over the centuries. Islam is not a religion but a totalitarian concept.
@OmarAbbas2007 "ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an..." Please give me the chapter and verses of this verses, because you did not give me the context here too. I would like to understand the earlier and later verses related to this. And also give me the reference what you consider the authentic. This is the problem of whole Muslim world that they are always in denying mode.
@OmarAbbas2007 "little thought of how was life 1430 years ago..." Do Muslims agrees with it, that this book is written by somebody 1430 years ago according to the current society there, if yes, don't you think, the same should be modified as per current time. But I think muslims think completely different, that this is the world of God and that Mohamed was last prophet and this is the last command of so called God "Allah". you can't talk both. One of two is definitely wrong.
@OmarAbbas2007 ".. 1430 years ago."" I understand what Mohamed did according to the time, he married to child girl, married many women, married divorced wife of foster son, had sex with maid and slave girls, fought 29 wars between 624 A.D and 632 AD. But the moment you people start saying that he was prophet and then God given those words it hard to buy, because time matter for human and not for God. If whatever written is subject to time then it automatically proves that Quran is word or human.
@OmarAbbas2007 And lastly it not just about book, but about the practices of Islam over the centuries and in present time. The context you are talking about, muslims take the same context to openly claim the world domination, by increasing population, ethnic cleansing, and by force. Terrorism in fact is one of the tool to achieve world domination. In middle ages the expansion of Islam was done through the political invasion.
@OmarAbbas2007 Mohamed fought almost 29 wars just in span of 8years. One of first things he did to destroy all 360 idols at the place of present kaba. If you can explain under what context idols can be destroyed, there is fight with human, what fight with idols. All population of Jews and Christians has been cleared from that region. I don't know what context can it be. Even after Mohamed the same practice continued for centuries and in present time it appears as terrorism.
@OmarAbbas2007 "who fought not against you on account of religion ..." Watch carefully, even this peaceful sentence is not without condition. The term who fought not against you on account of religion itself gives meaning that if somebody not following Islam he is actually the opponent and in turn the enemy. Its very openly said at various places in book that not following Islam is a clear sin and fighting those is just.
@OmarAbbas2007 Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." I don't know how much you moderate the meaning and how much you put excuse of contexts. In fact real context are much more dirtier than people know.
@RoyaleBengalTiger It is "Fight" and not kill and from the first verse i posted, it is very clear now that we fight in case we are transgressed and fought.
ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an: "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."
I think it is very simple now unless you are already determined not to think about it.
@OmarAbbas2007 I don't know which post you refer to? And its good if you can give the verses# you are referring too. Rather than giving such teaching you teach your own people, i am pretty sure not many from your own stream will accept the moderation you are trying to do. And how many of the verses you will moderate. This practice is from very start in Muslims to deny facts. In worst case, even if one accept, it is still clear that it is more or less a political doctrine for world domination.
@OmarAbbas2007 "I am not moderating any verses.." Of course moderating. All knows there are some verses which appear like peaceful, but looking closely at the context you are pointing about, that peace is very selective and only for Muslims. There a one after other texts both in Quran and Hadith the clear distinctions, full of talks of reward, heaven, bounty etc for muslims, and hell, punishment, sufferings etc for others. Its another matter you close your eyes.
@OmarAbbas2007" if we're not allowed to kill those who don't fight us and we're even to allowed to wage a war "Its very weak logic and completely dishonest. Mohamed fought so many wars just in few years. After him, the waves of wars continued till centuries. The same war is waged by Muslims in current time under the carpet of many political excuses. Just look around the affairs of Muslim countries. And don't tell me, tell your people, if they take your words?
@OmarAbbas2007 How many verses will you negate, there is clear distinction made for Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims are favored over non Muslims. Also the tune of text changes in later chapters from begining. In start Mohamed was less in power and so the verses are soft and at many a places soft and so called peaceful verses exists. As he became powerful later, the verses got stronger and more violent and full of hatred.
@RoyaleBengalTiger I hate it when someone speaks of something that he actually haven't read !! Seriously, i was and still correct from my first reply.
@OmarAbbas2007 You should feel lucky that I did not get time to read all otherwise, you might not have been able to justify your point. You are still having upper hand in fooling me and people saying that this is the meaning and not others. This problem of violence is with Muslims and not with others. But yes, others have right to question because all others are deeply affected.
@OmarAbbas20074:56Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. : 003.032 Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. 030.045 That He may reward those who believe and work righteous deeds, out of his Bounty. For He loves not those who reject Faith.
@RoyaleBengalTiger You're now speaking as if God will send non-believers to heaven. This is God's punishment to the people who don't believe in God.
For the first verse, didn't you notice a scientific fact ? How could Prophet Mohammad (Peace and Blessings be upon Him) who was illiterate from more than 1400 years knew that the "Skin" contains the nerves which make you feel the pain without God's revelations ?????? Read it again.
@OmarAbbas2007 "How could Prophet Mohammad ..." Again you are falling to very weak logic. World is full of such legends who were iliterate. Kabir was iliterate but produced one of the best philosopher and poet. Surdas was blind but he produced one of the best literature ever produced in India. These are normal scientific facts which even teenagers knowing and no wonder in knowing some of scientific facts. Such thing does not prove anything.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Actually you are the one following the weak logic. You're mentioning some others and not commenting on the verse. How about this also:
ALLAH says: "“Whomsoever Allah desires to guide, He expands his chest to Islam; whomsoever He desires to lead astray, He makes his chest narrow, tight, as if he were climbing up to the sky.” (6:125)
Still a normal scientific fact to be known from 1400 years ago ?
@OmarAbbas2007 "Whomsoever Allah desires to guide...." Now you yourself coming to true color. The poison of hatred is visible even in words moderated so much. I was trying to point out this issue and ultimately you spoken yourself.
@OmarAbbas2007 "Still a normal scientific fact to be known from 1400 years ago..." I know how blind people can be. I don't know did you ever count, how many times the word hell, punishment, disbelievers, fight used in the so called holy book. There is no wonder if a religion will have such a God what about his followers.
@OmarAbbas2007" How could Prophet Mohammad..." Go and read how many scientific errors are there. Sun goes back under the throne of Allah and he comes back next day after taking permission. You tell me what scientific facts is this? There are many and believe me, I'll find out all those so called wonder of revelations you are pointing and producing as the proof of divinity. There is nothing divine in it. It is a very strong psychic command making a man slave of ideology.
@OmarAbbas2007 008.012 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." 008.013 This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.
@OmarAbbas2007 Now this is from very authentic sources: Now watch the context: "because they contend", contend means to oppose, question, dispute. Anybody who disputes Allah and Mohamed has to meet with the consequences as described in 8:012. This is as modest meaning as one can take, but in reality it gives much more dangerous meaning. At least to your own people who are hell bent to destroy this humanity. I personally appreciate your moderate views but sorry its not the reality.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Now this is the problem of most anti-islamists. They look to the bad examples of Islam rather than the good examples or the Holy Qur'an.
@OmarAbbas2007 No its not the problem of anti-Islamists, as this is the problem for Muslims that they are not ready to accept that there is some problem. Millions have been killed by Muslims, hundreds or states ravaged and millions forced to convert, still nobody wants to even admit that there is a problem. Terrorists pulverised all part of world, but they just not ready to accept. Nobody had any business with Islam till the violence started by Islam reached to every door.
@OmarAbbas2007 But above all, if Islam were really peaceful, those bloodshed which happens for centuries, that hunger for world domination and this widespread fear could have never existed and there was no need of anybody from other faith to discus Islam. But its height of everything when you people, rather than knowing the problem start telling lies. Its not going to solve anything, Digging head in sand is not a solution.
@RoyaleBengalTiger The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers. Mainly, the "Catholic Roman empire" and the persian empire. The people of countries that were invaded (by your own measure) actually welcomed the Muslims. They were living under the persecution of these empires.
BTW, who started the war first ?? Weren't it the Pagans of Mecca, the jews and later on the roman and persian empire ?
@OmarAbbas2007 "The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers...' This is another straight lies, None of the wars started by non Muslims. Out of all wars(48) only a couple of wars was defensive otherwise all other were offensive. Mohamed did not spared people of Media who given them shelter. In fact anybody who did not accept the Islam as what Mohamed wanted, they declared enemies and some or other excuses were made to wage wars.
@OmarAbbas2007"The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers..." All wars started by Muhammed. He sent threatening letters to all states to accept Islam. Some of the letters(as claimed by your own people) are still lying in few museums. The wars started by Mohammed continued all through mediaval period. Crusades were started after 1095 AD. Till that time most of the region around was captured by Muslims.
@OmarAbbas2007 "Weren't it the Pagans of Mecca, the jews and later on the roman and persian empire ..." There is no historical facts and its all lies. The life of pagans were completely disturbed by Mohammed. Their caravans were attacked. Finally they are wiped off. The very first day when Mohammed defeated the meccans, destroyed all the worship place and all the idols. Over the centuries pagans and jews were wiped off from the whole region.
@OmarAbbas2007" countries that were invaded,actually welcomed the Muslims.." No body welcomed it, Since many of them have converted to by force to Islam so there is no such proof, but where Muslims could not convert them you can see even now that they were never welcomed. Whole Persian civilization was wiped out. Buddhism from Afghanistan was completely wiped off. India could save its demography with great difficulty due to its inner resistence of Hindus.
@OmarAbbas2007 "They were living under the persecution of these empires...." Go and ask how those people were living. I am telling you because I know it, and I know it that either you are telling a complete lie or you don't have complete information about what happened in History. You have no idea of barberism been perfoemed. How women and children were made slaves,captured women from far India brought to Arabia to satisfy the lust be men there.
@OmarAbbas2007 009.028 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will God enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for God is All-knowing, All-wise." Truly the Pagans are unclean.." I don't know which context you will put which can give any peaceful meaning and not hatred.
@OmarAbbas2007 009.029 Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Here too I don't think any peaceful or justified context exist which a non Muslim can accept)
@OmarAbbas2007 Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.(39:09)Are those who know equal to those who know not? (13:16)Is the blind equal to the one who sees" Or darkness equal to light?: Very clear distinction has been made. There are plenty, I put just few.
@OmarAbbas2007 "ElTabari said...." I don't think I have misquoted but I'll verify again. And by the way as I told you, It not required for me to know more, as it is required for Muslims to open their eyes towards Humanity. Look back in centuries what crimes they unleashed on humanity all over the world which still continues in all those areas where Muslims are dominant.
@OmarAbbas2007 "The first verse is about God's punishment to the unbelievers which is none of your business.." Well, you opened the jackpot. Its everybody's business. How on the earth if I am a good human but does not follow Islam should be punished? Torture is the behavior of evil and not divine. Hell can not be the truth and it goes against the very principle of creation of universe. God had created human and all other creatures to throw them into hell? and nobody question this?
@OmarAbbas2007 "The blind is the unbeliever and the one who sees is the Believer, very simple I guess :)..." One who does not follow Islam is blind, right? even this so called moderate translation is not free from distinction? A non Muslim is blind, he deserves hell, torture, he need protection of muslims etc etc, The whole book is full of such texts, even with little study I know, its surprising these things are not visible to Muslims..
@OmarAbbas2007 005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.(And this is something which is proves this whole post wrong, "Can Muslims get along with non-Muslims, again there is no context around this verses which can be taken to justify this and that justification be peaceful)
I am not a pious muslim or a great Muslim scholar. I am still learning Islam as I should be through out my life. i admit that no man is perfect.But Islam is a deen or a way of life sent by the one God to all mankind. It is not any political agenda.Our Prophet (PBUH) has such high morals that even the one God has praised him in the Quran.Maybe the negative and bad things that you have heard about him came from the source which is anti Islam.
@amalinacb "Sarve bhavantu sukhinah". (May everybody be happy). it appears that you have not read your own scripture and that is why having such a rosy pictures. Its not a talk about good or bad man its about the philosophy which is ready to engulf whole humanity. The widespread fear is already prevailing all over the world. You have just no idea what has happened through the history, how many worship places ravaged, millions dies only because they refused to convert to Islam.
@amalinacb Do you know how prophet married to a six year old girl and consumed marriage when she was nine. Ref:1. Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64,65,Sahih Bukhari 7.18,Sahih Bukhari 9.140,Sahih Bukhari 5.234,Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90 . There are numerous. He had sex with maid servant, slaves, married daughter in law,Killed thousands with his own hands and distributed women like bounty to his soldiers, and God was watching all these.
@amalinacb Islam goal is to establish rule over whole world and install sharia. You must know how peaceful sharia is? everybody knows now a days. Islam don't accept freedom, democracy, and pluralism.Its a pact law system which gives strict instruction to totally stick to law. Clear hate for other religions are mentioned by using clear names of christian, Jews and Idol worshipers. Even single mention in scripts are dangerous, here its full of such hatred.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Please my brother in humanity, I'm Muslim and I love and creatures of God, you know, I really understand you very much, I was like you, you misunderstood Islam, you misunderstood God, you should read Coran many times to understand the beauty of God, he does not want us to kill anyone, he wants us to forgive to everyone, he gave us some judgements to do to the criminals just when the victim does not make her decision to forgive, and as it is just question of choice, that's it<3
@ThePrideglory , I really understand you very much, I was like you, you misunderstood Islam, you misunderstood God--I am sorry, but, this is not the case . After reading, it did not take me long to know, that this is the center of all evil and the only responsible ideology of destruction, that there is nothing divine in it, that this scriptures hide a political goal of world domination, that it uses the name of God for motivating people to achieve the same.
@RoyaleBengalTiger I'm sorry too, because as I said before I was thinking like you, but now after reading the Koran many times with sincerity of the heart,I released the opposite of what you said,the real beleivers won't ever have an ideology of destruction and domination,it is just all the opposite :)so my speech is clear I think,and this what I understood from the coran after been reading it for 9 years,and it is so clear in the coran,but if your heart is not good,you will not see it <3
@ThePrideglory ,the real beleivers won't ever have an ideology of destruction and domination,it is just all the opposite --- It is possible that a person is not effected by an ideology due to his/her own behavior control and sense by an ideology can always effect people. Its not that all Muslims are bad, but its 100% sure that Islam is evil and it can at one or other time effect human to be evil, which is every evident looking at the history and at present affairs.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Can you please give me one evil example from the coran? I don't think it is, it will be just in the one's evil heart interpretation, just give me one example please
@ThePrideglory just give me one example please-- I have given you the verses with complete reference with sura and versese written in earlier paragraphs, you did not read them?. There are so many verses. In fact every chapter contains verses full of curse and the command of punishment.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Imagine, if an army 3 times bigger and well equipped than you, came to you and tries to uproot you from your home, and crush you and your family. Please I see that you do not know muslims, even the word muslim means peaceful, but we have the right to defend our homes and family right? So read this interpretation of that verse with an open heart here please : (3W)islamic-replies.ucoz(dot)com /8_12(dot)html you will surely understand why that battle came up
@ThePrideglory "Imagine, if an army 3 times " such context matters for human not for God. You are trying to say that there is a God who overruled all earlier revelations on earth and all religions to participate in dirty wars of warlords in Arab? God is so prompt enough to give revelations each time Mohamed wanted something or when situation demanded in his favor? God give revelations to Kill innocent un-armed tribes or Banu kurayja, sens angels to sake their forts.
@RoyaleBengalTiger HAHAHA, where did you read that? Listen I hightly recommand you to study the QUR'AN very carefully and with a good heart, because there is no such violence or killing just like that. In spite of what you said, I will say to you that God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right? God is the most beautiful, the most merciful and the most grateful. When he doeas something he does it for the good of everything
@ThePrideglory "Listen I hightly recommand you to study the QUR'AN.." Does one need to take bath in Mud to know that it is mud.I have given you clear reference of its evil nature. I have personally read Quran. It does not take even few mins to know that its a negative ideology, based on two major psychic control fallacy, reward and fear. By offer reward of different types and heaven and giving fear of hell and torture, the weakness of human hearts (Particularly men) have been exploited.
@ThePrideglory I will say to you that God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right? -- God and think again. if this is the case, then this Universe is running on some random phenomena. The law of gravitation applies when he likes one time, and other time he does not like then it does no apply, How many mins do you think this universe will sustain if one accept such rubbish concept of random processing?
@ThePrideglory "God is the most beautiful, the most merciful and the most grateful..." Donkey is most beautiful, the most merciful and most grateful" any body can form such sentence and keep repeating, who stops, but such things proves nothing. I have given you clear sample of the greatness of so called Allah you are trying to use such words. I'll put again to refresh your memory.
@ThePrideglory "God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right?.." This is not the case, and this can not be true. Such assumptions can leads to disastrous results.If indeed everything is based on his likes and dislikes then where is the scope of doing anything. Likes and dislikes itself are subject to senses and mind and characteristics of a finite entity like human and animals, and not divine entity like God.
@ThePrideglory If indeed Islam provides garantee to heaven, don't you think its better for muslims to rush to heaven than to waste time here on earth. Terrorists are still the best followers of Islam which know that this life is just waste, they use the shortcut, blows themselves, kill as much fakirs as possible(as described in Quran) and go to heaven. They use the most secure way as prescribed in Quran.
@ThePrideglory By giving such childish logic you yourself proves that Islam is nothing but a pack of lies and fallacy. A totalitarian concept, whose only aim is to dominate world. Go and see how many methods your people are using to achieve the same, some of them are terrorists, some of them active so much on internet, some of them busy telling how peaceful Islam, all of them have same goal of world domination. after all telling lies is justified in Islam (Al taqia.).
@RoyaleBengalTiger And he does never something unjust towards anyone, he is the total justice, he forbid the unjustice to himself and forbid it to us, he just help the oppressed, and give everyone who asked him, and Mohammad is just a man, a messenger of God, and he was hurt more than anyone in the world when he was in Makka, after that he migrated to Madina to leave the opressers by the order of God, but even when he left them, they followed him and killed many muslims, so there came the order
@ThePrideglory they followed him and killed many muslims, so there came the order--How many lies you people will tell? You can not lie on Historical facts. Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, and disturbed their business process and their normal life. He was forced to leave Mecca because he propagated against their established faith. During the early period 610-622 AD when he was in Mecca he hardly managed with enough followers.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Listen, I was skeptical more than you, it is mentioned in the historical facts that Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, but not mentioned on the QUR'AN, in the QUR'AN it is clear to fight just to defend ourselves, home and family, that's all, historical normal books are plenty of lies yes, but not the QUR'AN , the QUR'AN is even in your heart, it is in the heart or everyone, believer or not, because it talks just about defense nothing more, go study the QUR'AN and leave the lies
@ThePrideglory "it is mentioned in the historical facts that Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, but not mentioned on the QUR'AN,..." It appears that you have been severly brainwashed, first you asked even single evil examples, I given you many, then you said Mohamed was victim and tried to justified, and then I given you the true historical facts, Don't expect somebody will teach you about everything. Its very much in Quran, Sura Al-Hajj, 22:39-40 go and read,don't expect spoon feeding.
@RoyaleBengalTiger HAHAHA, you know you chocked me for a time, but when I gone read the verses, HAHAHA, you are kidding me?!!! What the verses say?!!! "39. Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. 40 . [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people... TO BE CONTUNIED
@RoyaleBengalTiger 40 . [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned.And Allah will surely support those who support Him.Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.Sura Al-Hajj.SO NOW DON'T WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES?
@ThePrideglory You laugh a lot, well it good to laugh, the verses 8:39,8:40, was not to prove its good or bad but to your question where you said that in Quran its written nowhere about caravan raids in-fact 8:39 to 8:48 are related with caravan raids there is clearer reference in verses 8:42 where the word caravan is used very clearly.
@ThePrideglory 008.042 Remember ye were on the hither side of the valley, and they on the farther side, and the caravan on lower ground than ye. Even if ye had made a mutual appointment to meet, ye would certainly have failed in the appointment: Continues-->
@RoyaleBengalTiger The number of times the words, "world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (akhira) are repeated is also the same: 115 . The word faith (iman) (without genitive) is repeated 25 times throughout the Qur'an as is also the word infidelity (kufr). The words "paradise" and "hell" are each repeated 77 times. The word "zakah" is repeated in the Qur'an 32 times and the number of repetitions of the word "blessing" (barakah) is also 32.
@ThePrideglory 008.042(continues)But (thus ye met), that Allah might accomplish a matter already enacted; that those who died might die after a clear Sign (had been given), and those who lived might live after a Clear Sign (had been given). And verily Allah isHe Who heareth and knoweth (all things). In these verses the word caravan is clearly mentioned.
@RoyaleBengalTiger In these verses the word caravan is clearly mentioned. => Who the hell did this translation?!!! The CARAVANE?!!! HAHAHA, he says (ROKBAN) It means (Knights) , please give me a link for this verse who says CARAVANES , because I should give them a lesson in arabic, lol, even a simple translation of google would tell you knights and not caravanes, lol , please you are just doing things very fast, slowly , take your time and search for the real translation of (ROKBAN)(CHEVALIERS)
@ThePrideglory he CARAVANE?!!! HAHAHA, he says (ROKBAN) It means (Knights) ,--- You are having at least some way to hide yourself, making excuse of Arabic, no just one verses but many verses between 8:39 and 8:48 were referred to the raids, in facts, raids are historical facts and even you are able to divert it making the excuse of language, there is no denying about those events. Mahamed himself lead 4th(Buwat) and 5th(Baddan) raids.
@RoyaleBengalTiger You are again returning to your historical documents that you trust and believe to interprete the word (ROKBAN) that ALLAH is talking about in those verses, but for me I trust nothing but goodness of my heart, and (ROKBAN) means (KNIGHTS) , so you are the liar here, and you don't even lie on me or on the good hearts, but you lie on yourself and the bad hearts, because the good hearts will go and read carefully all the QUR'AN and will understand its meaning, it's peace and love
@RoyaleBengalTiger and if you read carefully the QUR'AN, it is mentioned that the believers hate war, but they do it against their will, they do it to defend their homes and family, that's all, the good hearts here and everywhere are seeing that in the QURAN, it is so clear, but people and demons like you don't see that, they see their biggest enemy, it is GOD, because you want to be your own GOD, you are very very arrogant, that's all
@ThePrideglory" it is mentioned that the believers hate war, but they do it against their will, they do it to defend their homes and family,.." you are again extending it. Nowhere did the fight for family and homes. Even after the death of Mohamed his acts been extended beyond parallale by Muslims, where they destroyed one after the other civilizations and played such a game of blood bath that can never be washed away even in millions of years. That acts are still on .
@RoyaleBengalTiger WHY CAN NOT YOU UNDERSTANT?!! THE ONES YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS THAN PROTECTING THEIR HOMES AND FAMILY (SOCIETY) THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST NOT MUSLIMS, IT IS SO SIMPLE ISN'T IT? THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, YOU JUST CAN CALL THEM HYPOCRITS OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOT MUSLIM OKEY?!!! MUSLIMS ARE NOT MATERIALISTS, THEY JUST PROTECT THEMSELVES, IT IS NATURAL, DO NOT TELL ME ABOUT WARS WITH THE NAME OF ISLAM
@ThePrideglory THE ONES YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS THAN PROTECTING THEIR HOMES AND FAMILY (SOCIETY)-- I can understand your emotions, but I can better understanding your own suffocation which you are feeling. This suffocation is there because there is inherent problem in whole ideology. You have no idea what false things you are believing on.
@ThePrideglory There is a God so called Allah who is prompt enough to fill banu kurayza's or Kuraish's heart with fear, with fear, give revelations to settle the personal matters and political matters of a person(so called prophet), but the same God is a spectator when the same lusty prophet kills Bunu kurayza captive men were killed one by one, he was marrying a young girl, he was distributing women as war booty and having sex with the best one, only a dusty mind can believe such things.
@ThePrideglory "THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS .." You have no idea what will happen if I generalized this so called defensive revelation of so called God. Because babsed on this concept, buddhists have all rights to wage war against muslims in Afganistan, Hindus have all rights to wage war against muslims in Pakistan, bangladesh, Indonesia and Jews, christians, pagans, persian in middle east in Arabia because all ot them have been replaced from their places and they have rights to take it back.
@ThePrideglory "THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST NOT MUSLIMS, IT IS SO SIMPLE ISN'T IT? THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM.." go and tell this to your Muslims fellows and not to non-Muslims, because your words have no value as such. Ultimately you accept that Muslims are doing this. Others are trying to say the same thing that Muslims are doing all violence over the centuries and now the water have reached above the head, so much that the clash of civilization is almost imminent if sooner something is not done..
@ThePrideglory "MUSLIMS ARE NOT MATERIALISTS, ..."don't use such words, otherwise I would expose this fallacy withing minutes, God and check the definition of Heaven and hell, the definition of hoors, 72 virgins, the unlimited sex, gold etc etc. And physical torture in hell. What kind of divine entity Allah is who incur such tortures. Hell is a place of extreme torture, to torture is a behavior of evil and so the Allah you are following is nothing but a greatest evil.
@ThePrideglory The definition of heaven is nothing but the highest example of lust and materialism ever possible. The practice of Islam is based on a very pact law, which itself is an example of materialistic boundaries. I don't want to go into deep, there are endless examples to prove it beyond doubt that Islam is not a religion, Not even a single spiritual facts can be justified in Islam. If mulsims are becoming violent like demons its due to nothing else than Islam.
@ThePrideglory Every person when he take birth is a normal human. Under the constant teaching of Islam a majority of them are turning into demons. Few of the Muslims are able to be moderate, but this is due to their own sense and less involvement is Islamic teachings. Its almost impossible for anybody who agrees with the verses of Quran to be a normal human, most of them are violent, no doubt, others are too much brainwashed to contribute anything for peace.
@RoyaleBengalTiger We humans have the responsability of being peaceful with everything, you can not come and teach me the QURAN, only my heart can do it, if my heart is peaceful I will interprete the metaphoric words of GOD peacefully, and vice versa, this concept is also mentioned in the QURAN, you can not understand the QURAN if you are extremiste on one side of it, you should be open minded and read again and again and again untill you find the real peacefull interpretations
@ThePrideglory I will interprete the metaphoric words of GOD peacefully, and vice versa, this concept is also mentioned in the QURAN,-- facts and your opinions(understanding) are completely different things, I have nothing to do with your opinions, its about Islam which beyond doubts proved evil and its evils are visible everywhere in every century.
@ThePrideglory , you can not understand the QURAN if you are extremiste on one side of it,-- You are completely blind and that's one of the reason you are not able to understand anything. You can have opinion that the world meaning of "Kill", rape, virgins are something metamorphic and beautiful, then nobody can stop you from dreaming, you are free to dream.
@RoyaleBengalTiger And that is not just in QURAN, but in every single word in this earth or ouside it, you just have to follow your heart :) the hate and war you see in the world are not from words of God, they are from bad hearts, that's all, and it was like that before MOHAMED
@ThePrideglory "And that is not just in QURAN..." you must read Bhagvat Gita to know what's wrong in scriptures like Quran, or you can consult some scriptures of Buddha. you have no idea of spritual reality so far. Try to do some Yoga, try to reach to the level of meditation. Once you will come out of the hipnotised world of Quran and its evils you will know how wrong it is. It is the deadly poison which is consuming this earth with each passing day, humanity is dying like nothing under Islam.
@ThePrideglory DO NOT TELL ME ABOUT WARS WITH THE NAME OF ISLAM---Nothing is happening in Islam because I am saying, rather I am saying what has been done by Islam and what is happening and its not me, everybody in this world is worried with the dangers created by Islam, and you sitting here giving teaching that its preaceful, its peaceful. If you are blind it does means that everything else is . Don't be personal, its not a personal matter.
@ThePrideglory And yes, don't try be over smart and don't extend this debate.,the more you move the water, the more mud will come out. Islam is not a religion and Allah is not a God, the sooner Muslims realize this is better for the peace of this world. Peace have already gone from earth the day Islam was born in the mind of Mohamed. Don't know how much human have to suffer due to one lusty person's evil acts.
@RoyaleBengalTiger I agree that if so called muslims moved away the origins of pakistan, afganistan and all other lands, they are not muslims, and I'm not agree with them, you know a lot of people are misunderstanding ISLAM, you misunterprete the verses of QURAN, you follow your angry and passion, the words of God are always metaphoric words, like Gold, virgins, heaven and hell, and all that you interprete like you want, you can not be in the truth, the truth only God knows it...
@ThePrideglory "I agree that if so called muslims moved away the origins of ..." you are just playing with the words, if you could every know the real facts, the barbarianism of Islam. The peace of gone forever from this earth the very day the Islam born in the head of a sex mania, peadophile and murder mohamed, and yes, peace is just a dream till Islam present on this earth, your nice words means nothing in front of realities.
@ThePrideglory the words of God are always metaphoric words, like Gold, virgins, heaven and hell, and all that you interprete like you want,-- How much lie will you tell to others and how much lie will you tell to yourself. you trying to open new lies. Do you want me to prove all these things as I proved you all your fallacy? Do you think you got a super head to given new and new meaning to all those words. Seem to be completely brainwashed
@ThePrideglory because you want to be your own GOD-- No body can be God but at least one can be human. Islam has converted human into demons who is thirsty of blood, This whole world is gasping under the fear only and only due to Islam, you can never prove the lusty heaven but everybody in this world knows that Islam has brought hell here on this earth and under the name of peace people like you are but participating in the game of destruction.
@RoyaleBengalTiger And also it is mentioned in the QURAN that God purify souls with hell, and if you want to know the confermity of the QURAN, you should search for the big scientific discoveries that were mentioned in the QURAN before they have been discovered, and also historical prophecies, and if you don't want I just ask you to see this video made by me, I discovered the name of ALLAH written by continents, after I saw the name of MOHAMED on another video : watch?v=w1tjjjOzrFg
@ThePrideglory I discovered the name of ALLAH written by continents, -- Please don't refere such childish things, internet is full of such contents, such things are extremely childish and shows how brainwashed you are. As per the scientific facts in Islam, I have already proved the so called scientific fallacy. Its better come out of your dreams and see the real things. But if there is some, discoveries are all human acts, what so exceptional in that.
@RoyaleBengalTiger The name of ALLAH and the name of MOHAMED is clearly written by the 5 continents, if you saw it you knew it, and you are liying, because it is so obvious, but if you denied it, the good hearts will not, if those names written by the 5 continents are childish, so what are you? Nothing! But no, you are human, and the names of ALLAH and MOHAMED formed by the 5 continents are so clear, you are underestimate this and you will be sorry for that, you will see!
@ThePrideglory The name of ALLAH and the name of MOHAMED--- You go and look into such childish things, it is nice for your entertainment. Internet is full of such fallcies, and Muslims in on top of doing all such things to coicile themself. It also shows how insecure you people feel. Go and enjoy such things, it suits your dead mind because logic and facts never goes into your head, you are moving into completely different topic. Go find somebody else for such childish things.
@RoyaleBengalTiger As I already said you are one of two options, a liar if you really saw the names formed by continants, or your heart is blind not your eyes, and about science I already gave you many facts, but you denied them like if you were God, all is clear, you just have to follow your heart as I said, and your heart is always telling you that muslims are liars and you are the truth, it is telling you that you are above science, that's why you denied the scientific facts in the QUR'AN
@ThePrideglory the speed of light that Einstein has calculated in his life, the QUR'AN calculated it before him 1400 years ago, -- It was calculated 5000 years ago, not only the speed of light but its combinations, the structures of universe and the whole cosmology is present in Vedas. you are so much talking of searching, go and search about all such discoveries, many of them beyond present science. you fool, (why did you hide this, let others see)
@RoyaleBengalTiger Good, we are now in it, so if those discoveries are in Vedas, so Vedas is also a book from the library of God :D it is just that simple, all beleivers know that when God sent man on earth, he sent his book with him, but when man began to multiplicate, they unfortunatly seperate themselves and each one with his own thoughts, but God still sending books to them to awake them to the truth, but then men add thoughts to the book of God, and falsificate it...
@ThePrideglory You are again applying your mind and started playing different tune, finding that your earlier logic did not work. But you forget that in none of the way you will be able to prove Islam noble. Now you are trying to own God and include that with Islam. Islam has nothing to do with God, this is the manifestation of Mohamed. The whole existence of Islam is the biggest presence on evil on this earth.
@RoyaleBengalTiger Yes you are right, you are an angel, you can not be wrong, thank you for your misunderstanding of the words of God, at last I just have to say, you have your understanding and I have mine, and that what God says to us, and we have to respect each other over all that, that's what my God says to me in the QUR'AN, so I respect your misunderstanding and your harming, my peace and light be upon you
@ThePrideglory thank you for your misunderstanding of the words of God---This is the biggest misconception you are having that you are following words of God, in fact all you are following is the thoughts of a very dangerous minded person. People following Hitler might have been thinking same to you that they are following a great and noble concept till every they saw the consequences. All muslims are forced to this dangerous cult in the confusion that this is from god.
@ThePrideglory Yes you are right, you are an angel, you can not be wrong,---Did I say I am angel and does it required for me to be angel. Its not about me or anybody, its about a dangerous cult who is ready to ingulf the whole world and people like you are just get blind in the hope of the heaven and many virgins and might be due to the fear of the hell. Because I am very sure any muslims very clear mind read Quran will realize it immediately how evil it is.
@ThePrideglory t I just have to say, you have your understanding and I have mine--Is this the answer and is this the solution. You saying this world is going to erode the evil, will erode the crime been performed under the banner of so called evil Allah over the centuries, where milllions of people lost life only because they refuse to accept this ideology, millions of women were raped merciflessly and then sold to slave market. It shows that you have no sense at your heart and you are blind
@ThePrideglory and that what God says to us--Allah is not God and Quran is not the words of God. Quran is the manifestation of the Mohamed's thought. If you really want to reach to Go, you have to move away from this deadly cult because knowingly or unknowingly you are in the league of evil which is sure way of disaster for individual, for society and for whole world.
@ThePrideglory and that what God says to us, and we have to respect each other over all that---Really, you want me again to give so called peaceful verses.Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"008.018 That, and also because Allah is He Who makes feeble the plans and stratagem of the Unbelievers.
Absolutely not- muslims cannot get along with other muslims; as soon as troops left Iraq the Sunnis need someone to kill so we see a huge increase in attacks on Shia; any muslim care to deny this??
domlanic 1 week ago
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ALLAH AND SATAN ARE BEST BUDDIES. THEY LOVE TO KILL PEOPLE.ISLAM AND SATANISM ARE THE SAME.
Silentscreamer2009 2 months ago
i think this mosque is in bergen in norway maybe .!!!
algerofronco40 5 months ago
This guy comes across as sincere and reasonable. But I think he is rubbish. He is no scholar and hold no credibility of wisdom. He is just ranting with modesty and passion so of course weak people will be sucked in so easily. He sounds like an atheist but making reference to Islam. And the blonde girl is just annoying.
xnoodsx 5 months ago
you stupid white bitch go marry a muslim and start your life under a bedsheet but don't get caught banging your ex boyfriend or your going to get stoned to death,i have this guy on tape calling for JIHAD a totally different tune not ment for us infedils,it's night and day TAQIYYA is his second favorite word besides JIHAD in the tape i have of him, don't turn your back on these people.Learn from people like WALLY SHEBAD, not these TAQIYYA spewing cultists.
jjbravo1000 7 months ago
I respect the Muslim people even though im a Christian, most Americans and Christians believe Muslims are Terrorists. No, no, no, I believe that all religions, Buddhism, Chrisitanity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Taoism, Athiests, can all just get along. Amen, Amein, Om Mani Padme Hum, Aum Shanti Aum Shanti Aum Shanti,
DYlaNpItyDaFOOL 7 months ago
23 guys are terrorists against peace
nssttt 8 months ago
It's depressing how some people clinge to the verses about jihad and hell fire without even knowing when and why they descended!
like seriously only reading the quran and few books does not make you an expert! and surely wont aid in your mission against Islam
and Alhamdulilah, the more people fight Islam, the more people convert
Islam is spreadinng at the speed of light and no one can do anything about it!
Nour24EM 8 months ago
"Treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers." From the last sermon of Prophet Mohammed PBUH
a religion of oppression, eh?
Nour24EM 8 months ago
Say: O ye that reject Faith! (Islam) I worship not that which ye worship nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. you shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. (Chapter 109)
Nour24EM 8 months ago
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Yes, they can get along with non-Muslims.
Muslim societies don't produce anything for themselves. That's what women and slaves are for.
When a country is conquered, the infidel is placed into dhimmitude, where they are second class citizens (or third) that are forced to pay the poll tax, or jizya.
No slaves = no money.
CallMeInfidel 9 months ago
Alas if Islam were all about peace, but its completely opposite. Islam is a totalitarian philosophy and very clearly divide people between Muslims and others. It reject completely the pluralism, any other way of worship, any other law than Sharia. Not following Islam is clear sin and killing them is duty and a way to achieve heaven. In recent time and in coming years this is the single most reason of widespread fear and bloodshed.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger
Peace be upon you. Upon reading you comment, i felt sad because most of the non-muslims don't know Islam well.Please don't judge a religion merely based on what other people who don't know Islam say about Islam and that includes most of the media.Contrary to what u said, Islam is peace.The word Islam itself means peace.And no,it does not divide people or any races.You can say that u've seen muslims who kill or "terrorize" people. But those are not the true followers of Islam.
amalinacb 11 months ago
@amalinacb How nice it would have if what you say was ever true. It appears that either you did not read your own scriptures or if yes, then try to lie completely. People to be bad is never so dangerous as is when philosophy. Islam is totally exclusive ideology and very clearly differentiate. All texts are available everywhere and even now, I have the very so called holy book opened in front of me. I belong to a place where I have seen all with my naked eyes and have watched their lifestyle.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Do you want me to give the sentences from the Quran and hadith, or do you want me to mention the constant barbarism performed by the community and rulers on other communities over thousand of years. Or do you want me to mention the state and functioning of all those Muslim dominated countries where the life of other community turning to be hell or do you want me to mention the quotes of your own scholars which is just opposite what you are trying to say.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb its not for non Muslim to know Islam as it is for Muslim to know Islam and know the truth before its too late. Its not a religion but a political agenda started by a person who was not even a descent human by any standard. He performed such heinous crimes that if someone has done such thing now, might have hanged multiple times.When someone reads through the book its don't take even a minutes to realize that these message are delivered by some evil power for the destruction..
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb Do you want me to give the sentences from the Quran and hadith, or do you want me to mention the constant barbarism performed by the community and rulers on other communities over thousand of years. Or do you want me to mention the state and functioning of all those Muslim dominated countries where the life of other community turning to be hell or do you want me to mention the quotes of your own scholars which is just opposite what you are trying to say.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb Allah is not a God but a term used by a diseased person. God never need messenger nor any help from human to spread his ideology. God's will are performed by the divine rules which spreads into human being. Human ascends or descends into higher or lower state based upon is Karma. Every single human and all creatures have equal rights over this universe. Human is made diverse and anybody trying to monotonic this is sure to be an evil and only evil is hungry of power and slavery.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger
May God have great mercy on you.
Have you read all the chapters in the Quran? My advice is you shouldwith an open heart.
Again, i am not any great scholar of Islam, and there are a lot more that i need to learn about my religion so that I can gain God's blessings. Many people view the Quran even before they started to read it as something that is not Gospel Truth and they have set their minds on it that their hearts could not understand the message that is to be told.
amalinacb 11 months ago
@amalinacb its high time for people like you to go and read other scriptures particularly Vedas and Bhagvat Gita, then you would know what does it mean by God, what is peace. Open your mind and know what is karma, what is yoga, what is meditation(the ultimate physical way to get peace), what is the purpose of the creation of this whole world. How God created human with all faiths and diversity to exist, and Islam is hell bent to destroy all these and convert into a pact monotonic society.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb Hundreds of community spread over earth was following their faiths and lives, when Islam arrived and disturbed whole equilibrium of earth. One after other states were attached and the state power used to convert masses into Muslims and those refused massacred . Thousand and thousands of worship places destroyed. The process of expansion continues till now. There are millions of reasons to reject this ideology and but not even a single in favor.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacbYou cant judge the truth of one fact but first accepting it, rather one has to be neutral when looking for truth. Digging head in sand and thinking that ghost does not exist cant solve anything. There is fear, there is uneasiness all over the world, the danger of civilization war is looming large on societies and still if one denies to accept the truth then what. How many more centuries and how many more bloodshed required to prove that Ghost indeed exist.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Well, you have just read a couple of texts from the internet and then believed them to be true without checking their authenticity and what is worse is that you didn't bother to give it a little thought of how was life 1430 years ago.
ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an: " Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "didn't bother to give it a little thought of how was life 1430 years ago.." Well it means the whole Quran has nothing to do with God and its all been constructed by Human. I understand brother, but I afraid neither you nor your Muslims fellows understand it that the Islam has nothing to do with God and its all written by Human.I agree. let you Muslims agree for this that there is no Allah and there is nothing divine in it.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger I have actually said this to point to the word you stated about slaving girls. Can you tell me what would have been the fate of these women whose husbands were killed if they were left in the deserts of the Arabian peninsula ?
If you think rationally, you'll get it.
The Qur'an is valid for all times my dear.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" I have actually said this to point to the word you stated about slaving girls.." Does it required to have sex with the girl the same night when whose father, brother and husband killed. I don't know what moral standard allow a person of 50 years to marry a six year girl. What such moral standard it needed to force his foster son to divorce his wife so that he marry her and marry and have sex the same time she divoreced. How many things will you justify, its unending.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "what would have been the fate of these women ..." There are many solutions, than to distribute them to their soldiers to rape them and humiliate them. But yes, this is perhaps too difficult for you to understand. Actually for you all such sins are allowed by Allah because you are following his words. Did you people ever try to check what if all these messages been delivered by some evil force, which is more than 100% possibility.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "you have just read a couple of texts from the internet ..." Well I read from Internet. I think you did not bother check the how many Muslim Organization are active all over the world and on internet to lure people to convert. Nobody else is more active on internet than Islam to spread falsely that Islam is peaceful. The text of Quran is put on internet by you own organizations.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Please check this post carefully.
If you want this an agreement where you're already determined not to check anything about Islam or listen to the answers to your falsely interpreted Verses or Hadiths, then lets stop it right now.
If you actually need to listen and check my answers to your questions, then lets keep it going on .
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "If you want this an agreement where you're already determined not to check ..." Of course I have no interests in whatever you are saying and I have nothing to do with Islam and anything related with it. I find myself extremely lucky that God has put me out of this sphere where I can see Human with the eyes of Human, where I can love everybody without knowing his faith and never have greed either of heaven nor the fear of hell. the complete peace.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 ".., then lets stop it right now..." Yes stop it, I have interest to your words and I have my head with me. Keep your logic with yourself and I'll keep my logic with myself.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Yeah that's alot better.
We will meet someday.
Good Luck
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 Well, I don't think so. Even have no such eagerness to meet with you. And yes, its better correct your religion than to teach its meaning to others. Good luck to you too.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 correction: "I have interest to your words--> I have no interest to your words
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger A final word to you. You're replies were quite pathetic and most of them were like these are just lies. You're just following your brain and nothing else. As long as sth said is bad about Islam then it's true while anything good is of course false. I bet that such mentality won't help you much in your life. Did you know now why you were mentioned in the Qur'an as blind ?? You'll answer that question.
Thank you anyways for such useless argument
See you
May God guide you
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" You'll answer that question.." No I'll not answer, because this is not the question and I know you will not accept anything else than written in your book.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" As long as sth said is bad about Islam then it's true while anything good is of course false.." You know why Hitler was supposed to be such a bad person, in fact he did not kill anybody with his hand. Its not matter about any object , its question about an ideology. An ideology is millions time more dangerous than any other thing. Even single wrong word in any ideology is dangerous, if they are in abundance then one can just imagine, this is what with Islam.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "bet that such mentality won't help you much in your life. .." It appears that you know nothing about mind, life, spirituality. Anyway everybody has get the fruits of his actions, its applied to me and its applies to everybody. Rather you take care. I have my God with me and I know what is life, what is religion, what is evil and what is the truth. Hope people like you will wake from the dreams of Heaven and fear of hell.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Hello brother or sister in humanity, in life :) peace and love, you said something very correct that concludes everything about God and his religion ( religion = no dogma nor pressure ) "Anyway everybody has get the fruits of his actions, its applied to me and its applies to everybody." It is it! Welcom to Islam/the soumission to God volontarly or not, you will be always captured by your work/actions/acts ^^ That's all the rule of God, simple, and agreed from all <3
ThePrideglory 9 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@ThePrideglory Lol, this was expected, if nothing then claim, somebody's house are yours just to increase headcount. Law of karma is the divine concept of Hinduism and its universal to all human no matter from which faith or belief. It does not required to be Hindu or a Muslim or Christian to be good. Good is good and bad is bad, if this simple fact you people have understood, there would have never been the blood bath over the centuries. Islam is not a religion but a totalitarian concept.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an..." Please give me the chapter and verses of this verses, because you did not give me the context here too. I would like to understand the earlier and later verses related to this. And also give me the reference what you consider the authentic. This is the problem of whole Muslim world that they are always in denying mode.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "little thought of how was life 1430 years ago..." Do Muslims agrees with it, that this book is written by somebody 1430 years ago according to the current society there, if yes, don't you think, the same should be modified as per current time. But I think muslims think completely different, that this is the world of God and that Mohamed was last prophet and this is the last command of so called God "Allah". you can't talk both. One of two is definitely wrong.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 ".. 1430 years ago."" I understand what Mohamed did according to the time, he married to child girl, married many women, married divorced wife of foster son, had sex with maid and slave girls, fought 29 wars between 624 A.D and 632 AD. But the moment you people start saying that he was prophet and then God given those words it hard to buy, because time matter for human and not for God. If whatever written is subject to time then it automatically proves that Quran is word or human.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 And lastly it not just about book, but about the practices of Islam over the centuries and in present time. The context you are talking about, muslims take the same context to openly claim the world domination, by increasing population, ethnic cleansing, and by force. Terrorism in fact is one of the tool to achieve world domination. In middle ages the expansion of Islam was done through the political invasion.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 Mohamed fought almost 29 wars just in span of 8years. One of first things he did to destroy all 360 idols at the place of present kaba. If you can explain under what context idols can be destroyed, there is fight with human, what fight with idols. All population of Jews and Christians has been cleared from that region. I don't know what context can it be. Even after Mohamed the same practice continued for centuries and in present time it appears as terrorism.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 "who fought not against you on account of religion ..." Watch carefully, even this peaceful sentence is not without condition. The term who fought not against you on account of religion itself gives meaning that if somebody not following Islam he is actually the opponent and in turn the enemy. Its very openly said at various places in book that not following Islam is a clear sin and fighting those is just.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." I don't know how much you moderate the meaning and how much you put excuse of contexts. In fact real context are much more dirtier than people know.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger It is "Fight" and not kill and from the first verse i posted, it is very clear now that we fight in case we are transgressed and fought.
ALLAH says in the Holy Qur'an: "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."
I think it is very simple now unless you are already determined not to think about it.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 I don't know which post you refer to? And its good if you can give the verses# you are referring too. Rather than giving such teaching you teach your own people, i am pretty sure not many from your own stream will accept the moderation you are trying to do. And how many of the verses you will moderate. This practice is from very start in Muslims to deny facts. In worst case, even if one accept, it is still clear that it is more or less a political doctrine for world domination.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger I am not moderating any verses. I have given you a translation which you may accept or not.
Why is it a doctrine for world domination if we're not allowed to kill those who don't fight us and we're even to allowed to wage a war ???
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "I am not moderating any verses.." Of course moderating. All knows there are some verses which appear like peaceful, but looking closely at the context you are pointing about, that peace is very selective and only for Muslims. There a one after other texts both in Quran and Hadith the clear distinctions, full of talks of reward, heaven, bounty etc for muslims, and hell, punishment, sufferings etc for others. Its another matter you close your eyes.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" if we're not allowed to kill those who don't fight us and we're even to allowed to wage a war "Its very weak logic and completely dishonest. Mohamed fought so many wars just in few years. After him, the waves of wars continued till centuries. The same war is waged by Muslims in current time under the carpet of many political excuses. Just look around the affairs of Muslim countries. And don't tell me, tell your people, if they take your words?
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 How many verses will you negate, there is clear distinction made for Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims are favored over non Muslims. Also the tune of text changes in later chapters from begining. In start Mohamed was less in power and so the verses are soft and at many a places soft and so called peaceful verses exists. As he became powerful later, the verses got stronger and more violent and full of hatred.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger I hate it when someone speaks of something that he actually haven't read !! Seriously, i was and still correct from my first reply.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 You should feel lucky that I did not get time to read all otherwise, you might not have been able to justify your point. You are still having upper hand in fooling me and people saying that this is the meaning and not others. This problem of violence is with Muslims and not with others. But yes, others have right to question because all others are deeply affected.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 4:56Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. : 003.032 Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. 030.045 That He may reward those who believe and work righteous deeds, out of his Bounty. For He loves not those who reject Faith.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger You're now speaking as if God will send non-believers to heaven. This is God's punishment to the people who don't believe in God.
For the first verse, didn't you notice a scientific fact ? How could Prophet Mohammad (Peace and Blessings be upon Him) who was illiterate from more than 1400 years knew that the "Skin" contains the nerves which make you feel the pain without God's revelations ?????? Read it again.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "How could Prophet Mohammad ..." Again you are falling to very weak logic. World is full of such legends who were iliterate. Kabir was iliterate but produced one of the best philosopher and poet. Surdas was blind but he produced one of the best literature ever produced in India. These are normal scientific facts which even teenagers knowing and no wonder in knowing some of scientific facts. Such thing does not prove anything.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Actually you are the one following the weak logic. You're mentioning some others and not commenting on the verse. How about this also:
ALLAH says: "“Whomsoever Allah desires to guide, He expands his chest to Islam; whomsoever He desires to lead astray, He makes his chest narrow, tight, as if he were climbing up to the sky.” (6:125)
Still a normal scientific fact to be known from 1400 years ago ?
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "Whomsoever Allah desires to guide...." Now you yourself coming to true color. The poison of hatred is visible even in words moderated so much. I was trying to point out this issue and ultimately you spoken yourself.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 "Still a normal scientific fact to be known from 1400 years ago..." I know how blind people can be. I don't know did you ever count, how many times the word hell, punishment, disbelievers, fight used in the so called holy book. There is no wonder if a religion will have such a God what about his followers.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" How could Prophet Mohammad..." Go and read how many scientific errors are there. Sun goes back under the throne of Allah and he comes back next day after taking permission. You tell me what scientific facts is this? There are many and believe me, I'll find out all those so called wonder of revelations you are pointing and producing as the proof of divinity. There is nothing divine in it. It is a very strong psychic command making a man slave of ideology.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 008.012 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." 008.013 This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 Now this is from very authentic sources: Now watch the context: "because they contend", contend means to oppose, question, dispute. Anybody who disputes Allah and Mohamed has to meet with the consequences as described in 8:012. This is as modest meaning as one can take, but in reality it gives much more dangerous meaning. At least to your own people who are hell bent to destroy this humanity. I personally appreciate your moderate views but sorry its not the reality.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Now this is the problem of most anti-islamists. They look to the bad examples of Islam rather than the good examples or the Holy Qur'an.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 No its not the problem of anti-Islamists, as this is the problem for Muslims that they are not ready to accept that there is some problem. Millions have been killed by Muslims, hundreds or states ravaged and millions forced to convert, still nobody wants to even admit that there is a problem. Terrorists pulverised all part of world, but they just not ready to accept. Nobody had any business with Islam till the violence started by Islam reached to every door.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 But above all, if Islam were really peaceful, those bloodshed which happens for centuries, that hunger for world domination and this widespread fear could have never existed and there was no need of anybody from other faith to discus Islam. But its height of everything when you people, rather than knowing the problem start telling lies. Its not going to solve anything, Digging head in sand is not a solution.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers. Mainly, the "Catholic Roman empire" and the persian empire. The people of countries that were invaded (by your own measure) actually welcomed the Muslims. They were living under the persecution of these empires.
BTW, who started the war first ?? Weren't it the Pagans of Mecca, the jews and later on the roman and persian empire ?
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers...' This is another straight lies, None of the wars started by non Muslims. Out of all wars(48) only a couple of wars was defensive otherwise all other were offensive. Mohamed did not spared people of Media who given them shelter. In fact anybody who did not accept the Islam as what Mohamed wanted, they declared enemies and some or other excuses were made to wage wars.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Seriously, you know nothing. It's better for you to stop it now.
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007"The bloodshed actually from Christians and non-believers..." All wars started by Muhammed. He sent threatening letters to all states to accept Islam. Some of the letters(as claimed by your own people) are still lying in few museums. The wars started by Mohammed continued all through mediaval period. Crusades were started after 1095 AD. Till that time most of the region around was captured by Muslims.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "Weren't it the Pagans of Mecca, the jews and later on the roman and persian empire ..." There is no historical facts and its all lies. The life of pagans were completely disturbed by Mohammed. Their caravans were attacked. Finally they are wiped off. The very first day when Mohammed defeated the meccans, destroyed all the worship place and all the idols. Over the centuries pagans and jews were wiped off from the whole region.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007" countries that were invaded,actually welcomed the Muslims.." No body welcomed it, Since many of them have converted to by force to Islam so there is no such proof, but where Muslims could not convert them you can see even now that they were never welcomed. Whole Persian civilization was wiped out. Buddhism from Afghanistan was completely wiped off. India could save its demography with great difficulty due to its inner resistence of Hindus.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "They were living under the persecution of these empires...." Go and ask how those people were living. I am telling you because I know it, and I know it that either you are telling a complete lie or you don't have complete information about what happened in History. You have no idea of barberism been perfoemed. How women and children were made slaves,captured women from far India brought to Arabia to satisfy the lust be men there.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 009.028 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will God enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for God is All-knowing, All-wise." Truly the Pagans are unclean.." I don't know which context you will put which can give any peaceful meaning and not hatred.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 009.029 Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Here too I don't think any peaceful or justified context exist which a non Muslim can accept)
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.(39:09)Are those who know equal to those who know not? (13:16)Is the blind equal to the one who sees" Or darkness equal to light?: Very clear distinction has been made. There are plenty, I put just few.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger The first verse is about God's punishment to the unbelievers which is none of your business.
Now you have misquoted what ElTabari said. BTW, do you know who is ElTabari?
Now read my first reply, and you'll understand it fully.
The blind is the unbeliever and the one who sees is the Believer, very simple I guess :).
What's the clear distinction ?
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "ElTabari said...." I don't think I have misquoted but I'll verify again. And by the way as I told you, It not required for me to know more, as it is required for Muslims to open their eyes towards Humanity. Look back in centuries what crimes they unleashed on humanity all over the world which still continues in all those areas where Muslims are dominant.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger The first verse is about God's punishment to the unbelievers which is none of your business.
Now you have misquoted what ElTabari said. BTW, do you know who is ElTabari?
Now read my first reply, and you'll understand it fully.
The blind is the unbeliever and the one who sees is the Believer, very simple I guess :).
What's the clear distinction ?
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 "The first verse is about God's punishment to the unbelievers which is none of your business.." Well, you opened the jackpot. Its everybody's business. How on the earth if I am a good human but does not follow Islam should be punished? Torture is the behavior of evil and not divine. Hell can not be the truth and it goes against the very principle of creation of universe. God had created human and all other creatures to throw them into hell? and nobody question this?
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
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@OmarAbbas2007 "The blind is the unbeliever and the one who sees is the Believer, very simple I guess :)..." One who does not follow Islam is blind, right? even this so called moderate translation is not free from distinction? A non Muslim is blind, he deserves hell, torture, he need protection of muslims etc etc, The whole book is full of such texts, even with little study I know, its surprising these things are not visible to Muslims..
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@OmarAbbas2007 005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.(And this is something which is proves this whole post wrong, "Can Muslims get along with non-Muslims, again there is no context around this verses which can be taken to justify this and that justification be peaceful)
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger
May God have great mercy on you.
I am not a pious muslim or a great Muslim scholar. I am still learning Islam as I should be through out my life. i admit that no man is perfect.But Islam is a deen or a way of life sent by the one God to all mankind. It is not any political agenda.Our Prophet (PBUH) has such high morals that even the one God has praised him in the Quran.Maybe the negative and bad things that you have heard about him came from the source which is anti Islam.
amalinacb 11 months ago
@amalinacb "Sarve bhavantu sukhinah". (May everybody be happy). it appears that you have not read your own scripture and that is why having such a rosy pictures. Its not a talk about good or bad man its about the philosophy which is ready to engulf whole humanity. The widespread fear is already prevailing all over the world. You have just no idea what has happened through the history, how many worship places ravaged, millions dies only because they refused to convert to Islam.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb Do you know how prophet married to a six year old girl and consumed marriage when she was nine. Ref:1. Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64,65,Sahih Bukhari 7.18,Sahih Bukhari 9.140,Sahih Bukhari 5.234,Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90 . There are numerous. He had sex with maid servant, slaves, married daughter in law,Killed thousands with his own hands and distributed women like bounty to his soldiers, and God was watching all these.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@amalinacb Islam goal is to establish rule over whole world and install sharia. You must know how peaceful sharia is? everybody knows now a days. Islam don't accept freedom, democracy, and pluralism.Its a pact law system which gives strict instruction to totally stick to law. Clear hate for other religions are mentioned by using clear names of christian, Jews and Idol worshipers. Even single mention in scripts are dangerous, here its full of such hatred.
RoyaleBengalTiger 11 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger an argument*
OmarAbbas2007 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Please my brother in humanity, I'm Muslim and I love and creatures of God, you know, I really understand you very much, I was like you, you misunderstood Islam, you misunderstood God, you should read Coran many times to understand the beauty of God, he does not want us to kill anyone, he wants us to forgive to everyone, he gave us some judgements to do to the criminals just when the victim does not make her decision to forgive, and as it is just question of choice, that's it<3
ThePrideglory 9 months ago
@ThePrideglory , I really understand you very much, I was like you, you misunderstood Islam, you misunderstood God--I am sorry, but, this is not the case . After reading, it did not take me long to know, that this is the center of all evil and the only responsible ideology of destruction, that there is nothing divine in it, that this scriptures hide a political goal of world domination, that it uses the name of God for motivating people to achieve the same.
RoyaleBengalTiger 9 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger I'm sorry too, because as I said before I was thinking like you, but now after reading the Koran many times with sincerity of the heart,I released the opposite of what you said,the real beleivers won't ever have an ideology of destruction and domination,it is just all the opposite :)so my speech is clear I think,and this what I understood from the coran after been reading it for 9 years,and it is so clear in the coran,but if your heart is not good,you will not see it <3
ThePrideglory 9 months ago
@ThePrideglory ,the real beleivers won't ever have an ideology of destruction and domination,it is just all the opposite --- It is possible that a person is not effected by an ideology due to his/her own behavior control and sense by an ideology can always effect people. Its not that all Muslims are bad, but its 100% sure that Islam is evil and it can at one or other time effect human to be evil, which is every evident looking at the history and at present affairs.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Can you please give me one evil example from the coran? I don't think it is, it will be just in the one's evil heart interpretation, just give me one example please
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory just give me one example please-- I have given you the verses with complete reference with sura and versese written in earlier paragraphs, you did not read them?. There are so many verses. In fact every chapter contains verses full of curse and the command of punishment.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Maybe you gave them to someone else or they have been deleted or signaled as spam
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Imagine, if an army 3 times bigger and well equipped than you, came to you and tries to uproot you from your home, and crush you and your family. Please I see that you do not know muslims, even the word muslim means peaceful, but we have the right to defend our homes and family right? So read this interpretation of that verse with an open heart here please : (3W)islamic-replies.ucoz(dot)com /8_12(dot)html you will surely understand why that battle came up
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "Imagine, if an army 3 times " such context matters for human not for God. You are trying to say that there is a God who overruled all earlier revelations on earth and all religions to participate in dirty wars of warlords in Arab? God is so prompt enough to give revelations each time Mohamed wanted something or when situation demanded in his favor? God give revelations to Kill innocent un-armed tribes or Banu kurayja, sens angels to sake their forts.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger HAHAHA, where did you read that? Listen I hightly recommand you to study the QUR'AN very carefully and with a good heart, because there is no such violence or killing just like that. In spite of what you said, I will say to you that God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right? God is the most beautiful, the most merciful and the most grateful. When he doeas something he does it for the good of everything
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "Listen I hightly recommand you to study the QUR'AN.." Does one need to take bath in Mud to know that it is mud.I have given you clear reference of its evil nature. I have personally read Quran. It does not take even few mins to know that its a negative ideology, based on two major psychic control fallacy, reward and fear. By offer reward of different types and heaven and giving fear of hell and torture, the weakness of human hearts (Particularly men) have been exploited.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory I will say to you that God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right? -- God and think again. if this is the case, then this Universe is running on some random phenomena. The law of gravitation applies when he likes one time, and other time he does not like then it does no apply, How many mins do you think this universe will sustain if one accept such rubbish concept of random processing?
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "God is the most beautiful, the most merciful and the most grateful..." Donkey is most beautiful, the most merciful and most grateful" any body can form such sentence and keep repeating, who stops, but such things proves nothing. I have given you clear sample of the greatness of so called Allah you are trying to use such words. I'll put again to refresh your memory.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "God is the creator of everything, and the creator of something have the right to do anything he wants with it right?.." This is not the case, and this can not be true. Such assumptions can leads to disastrous results.If indeed everything is based on his likes and dislikes then where is the scope of doing anything. Likes and dislikes itself are subject to senses and mind and characteristics of a finite entity like human and animals, and not divine entity like God.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory If indeed Islam provides garantee to heaven, don't you think its better for muslims to rush to heaven than to waste time here on earth. Terrorists are still the best followers of Islam which know that this life is just waste, they use the shortcut, blows themselves, kill as much fakirs as possible(as described in Quran) and go to heaven. They use the most secure way as prescribed in Quran.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory By giving such childish logic you yourself proves that Islam is nothing but a pack of lies and fallacy. A totalitarian concept, whose only aim is to dominate world. Go and see how many methods your people are using to achieve the same, some of them are terrorists, some of them active so much on internet, some of them busy telling how peaceful Islam, all of them have same goal of world domination. after all telling lies is justified in Islam (Al taqia.).
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger And he does never something unjust towards anyone, he is the total justice, he forbid the unjustice to himself and forbid it to us, he just help the oppressed, and give everyone who asked him, and Mohammad is just a man, a messenger of God, and he was hurt more than anyone in the world when he was in Makka, after that he migrated to Madina to leave the opressers by the order of God, but even when he left them, they followed him and killed many muslims, so there came the order
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory they followed him and killed many muslims, so there came the order--How many lies you people will tell? You can not lie on Historical facts. Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, and disturbed their business process and their normal life. He was forced to leave Mecca because he propagated against their established faith. During the early period 610-622 AD when he was in Mecca he hardly managed with enough followers.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Listen, I was skeptical more than you, it is mentioned in the historical facts that Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, but not mentioned on the QUR'AN, in the QUR'AN it is clear to fight just to defend ourselves, home and family, that's all, historical normal books are plenty of lies yes, but not the QUR'AN , the QUR'AN is even in your heart, it is in the heart or everyone, believer or not, because it talks just about defense nothing more, go study the QUR'AN and leave the lies
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "it is mentioned in the historical facts that Mohamed raided Meccan's carvans, but not mentioned on the QUR'AN,..." It appears that you have been severly brainwashed, first you asked even single evil examples, I given you many, then you said Mohamed was victim and tried to justified, and then I given you the true historical facts, Don't expect somebody will teach you about everything. Its very much in Quran, Sura Al-Hajj, 22:39-40 go and read,don't expect spoon feeding.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger HAHAHA, you know you chocked me for a time, but when I gone read the verses, HAHAHA, you are kidding me?!!! What the verses say?!!! "39. Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. 40 . [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people... TO BE CONTUNIED
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger 40 . [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned.And Allah will surely support those who support Him.Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.Sura Al-Hajj.SO NOW DON'T WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES?
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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@ThePrideglory You laugh a lot, well it good to laugh, the verses 8:39,8:40, was not to prove its good or bad but to your question where you said that in Quran its written nowhere about caravan raids in-fact 8:39 to 8:48 are related with caravan raids there is clearer reference in verses 8:42 where the word caravan is used very clearly.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory 008.042 Remember ye were on the hither side of the valley, and they on the farther side, and the caravan on lower ground than ye. Even if ye had made a mutual appointment to meet, ye would certainly have failed in the appointment: Continues-->
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger The number of times the words, "world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (akhira) are repeated is also the same: 115 . The word faith (iman) (without genitive) is repeated 25 times throughout the Qur'an as is also the word infidelity (kufr). The words "paradise" and "hell" are each repeated 77 times. The word "zakah" is repeated in the Qur'an 32 times and the number of repetitions of the word "blessing" (barakah) is also 32.
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory 008.042(continues)But (thus ye met), that Allah might accomplish a matter already enacted; that those who died might die after a clear Sign (had been given), and those who lived might live after a Clear Sign (had been given). And verily Allah isHe Who heareth and knoweth (all things). In these verses the word caravan is clearly mentioned.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger In these verses the word caravan is clearly mentioned. => Who the hell did this translation?!!! The CARAVANE?!!! HAHAHA, he says (ROKBAN) It means (Knights) , please give me a link for this verse who says CARAVANES , because I should give them a lesson in arabic, lol, even a simple translation of google would tell you knights and not caravanes, lol , please you are just doing things very fast, slowly , take your time and search for the real translation of (ROKBAN)(CHEVALIERS)
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory he CARAVANE?!!! HAHAHA, he says (ROKBAN) It means (Knights) ,--- You are having at least some way to hide yourself, making excuse of Arabic, no just one verses but many verses between 8:39 and 8:48 were referred to the raids, in facts, raids are historical facts and even you are able to divert it making the excuse of language, there is no denying about those events. Mahamed himself lead 4th(Buwat) and 5th(Baddan) raids.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger You are again returning to your historical documents that you trust and believe to interprete the word (ROKBAN) that ALLAH is talking about in those verses, but for me I trust nothing but goodness of my heart, and (ROKBAN) means (KNIGHTS) , so you are the liar here, and you don't even lie on me or on the good hearts, but you lie on yourself and the bad hearts, because the good hearts will go and read carefully all the QUR'AN and will understand its meaning, it's peace and love
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger and if you read carefully the QUR'AN, it is mentioned that the believers hate war, but they do it against their will, they do it to defend their homes and family, that's all, the good hearts here and everywhere are seeing that in the QURAN, it is so clear, but people and demons like you don't see that, they see their biggest enemy, it is GOD, because you want to be your own GOD, you are very very arrogant, that's all
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory" it is mentioned that the believers hate war, but they do it against their will, they do it to defend their homes and family,.." you are again extending it. Nowhere did the fight for family and homes. Even after the death of Mohamed his acts been extended beyond parallale by Muslims, where they destroyed one after the other civilizations and played such a game of blood bath that can never be washed away even in millions of years. That acts are still on .
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger WHY CAN NOT YOU UNDERSTANT?!! THE ONES YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS THAN PROTECTING THEIR HOMES AND FAMILY (SOCIETY) THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST NOT MUSLIMS, IT IS SO SIMPLE ISN'T IT? THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM, YOU JUST CAN CALL THEM HYPOCRITS OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOT MUSLIM OKEY?!!! MUSLIMS ARE NOT MATERIALISTS, THEY JUST PROTECT THEMSELVES, IT IS NATURAL, DO NOT TELL ME ABOUT WARS WITH THE NAME OF ISLAM
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory THE ONES YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS THAN PROTECTING THEIR HOMES AND FAMILY (SOCIETY)-- I can understand your emotions, but I can better understanding your own suffocation which you are feeling. This suffocation is there because there is inherent problem in whole ideology. You have no idea what false things you are believing on.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory There is a God so called Allah who is prompt enough to fill banu kurayza's or Kuraish's heart with fear, with fear, give revelations to settle the personal matters and political matters of a person(so called prophet), but the same God is a spectator when the same lusty prophet kills Bunu kurayza captive men were killed one by one, he was marrying a young girl, he was distributing women as war booty and having sex with the best one, only a dusty mind can believe such things.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "THEY DID WAR FOR OTHER REASONS .." You have no idea what will happen if I generalized this so called defensive revelation of so called God. Because babsed on this concept, buddhists have all rights to wage war against muslims in Afganistan, Hindus have all rights to wage war against muslims in Pakistan, bangladesh, Indonesia and Jews, christians, pagans, persian in middle east in Arabia because all ot them have been replaced from their places and they have rights to take it back.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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@ThePrideglory "THEY ARE SIMPLY JUST NOT MUSLIMS, IT IS SO SIMPLE ISN'T IT? THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM.." go and tell this to your Muslims fellows and not to non-Muslims, because your words have no value as such. Ultimately you accept that Muslims are doing this. Others are trying to say the same thing that Muslims are doing all violence over the centuries and now the water have reached above the head, so much that the clash of civilization is almost imminent if sooner something is not done..
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "MUSLIMS ARE NOT MATERIALISTS, ..."don't use such words, otherwise I would expose this fallacy withing minutes, God and check the definition of Heaven and hell, the definition of hoors, 72 virgins, the unlimited sex, gold etc etc. And physical torture in hell. What kind of divine entity Allah is who incur such tortures. Hell is a place of extreme torture, to torture is a behavior of evil and so the Allah you are following is nothing but a greatest evil.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory The definition of heaven is nothing but the highest example of lust and materialism ever possible. The practice of Islam is based on a very pact law, which itself is an example of materialistic boundaries. I don't want to go into deep, there are endless examples to prove it beyond doubt that Islam is not a religion, Not even a single spiritual facts can be justified in Islam. If mulsims are becoming violent like demons its due to nothing else than Islam.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory Every person when he take birth is a normal human. Under the constant teaching of Islam a majority of them are turning into demons. Few of the Muslims are able to be moderate, but this is due to their own sense and less involvement is Islamic teachings. Its almost impossible for anybody who agrees with the verses of Quran to be a normal human, most of them are violent, no doubt, others are too much brainwashed to contribute anything for peace.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger We humans have the responsability of being peaceful with everything, you can not come and teach me the QURAN, only my heart can do it, if my heart is peaceful I will interprete the metaphoric words of GOD peacefully, and vice versa, this concept is also mentioned in the QURAN, you can not understand the QURAN if you are extremiste on one side of it, you should be open minded and read again and again and again untill you find the real peacefull interpretations
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
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@ThePrideglory I will interprete the metaphoric words of GOD peacefully, and vice versa, this concept is also mentioned in the QURAN,-- facts and your opinions(understanding) are completely different things, I have nothing to do with your opinions, its about Islam which beyond doubts proved evil and its evils are visible everywhere in every century.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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@ThePrideglory , you can not understand the QURAN if you are extremiste on one side of it,-- You are completely blind and that's one of the reason you are not able to understand anything. You can have opinion that the world meaning of "Kill", rape, virgins are something metamorphic and beautiful, then nobody can stop you from dreaming, you are free to dream.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger And that is not just in QURAN, but in every single word in this earth or ouside it, you just have to follow your heart :) the hate and war you see in the world are not from words of God, they are from bad hearts, that's all, and it was like that before MOHAMED
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "And that is not just in QURAN..." you must read Bhagvat Gita to know what's wrong in scriptures like Quran, or you can consult some scriptures of Buddha. you have no idea of spritual reality so far. Try to do some Yoga, try to reach to the level of meditation. Once you will come out of the hipnotised world of Quran and its evils you will know how wrong it is. It is the deadly poison which is consuming this earth with each passing day, humanity is dying like nothing under Islam.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory DO NOT TELL ME ABOUT WARS WITH THE NAME OF ISLAM---Nothing is happening in Islam because I am saying, rather I am saying what has been done by Islam and what is happening and its not me, everybody in this world is worried with the dangers created by Islam, and you sitting here giving teaching that its preaceful, its peaceful. If you are blind it does means that everything else is . Don't be personal, its not a personal matter.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory And yes, don't try be over smart and don't extend this debate.,the more you move the water, the more mud will come out. Islam is not a religion and Allah is not a God, the sooner Muslims realize this is better for the peace of this world. Peace have already gone from earth the day Islam was born in the mind of Mohamed. Don't know how much human have to suffer due to one lusty person's evil acts.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger I agree that if so called muslims moved away the origins of pakistan, afganistan and all other lands, they are not muslims, and I'm not agree with them, you know a lot of people are misunderstanding ISLAM, you misunterprete the verses of QURAN, you follow your angry and passion, the words of God are always metaphoric words, like Gold, virgins, heaven and hell, and all that you interprete like you want, you can not be in the truth, the truth only God knows it...
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory "I agree that if so called muslims moved away the origins of ..." you are just playing with the words, if you could every know the real facts, the barbarianism of Islam. The peace of gone forever from this earth the very day the Islam born in the head of a sex mania, peadophile and murder mohamed, and yes, peace is just a dream till Islam present on this earth, your nice words means nothing in front of realities.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
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@ThePrideglory the words of God are always metaphoric words, like Gold, virgins, heaven and hell, and all that you interprete like you want,-- How much lie will you tell to others and how much lie will you tell to yourself. you trying to open new lies. Do you want me to prove all these things as I proved you all your fallacy? Do you think you got a super head to given new and new meaning to all those words. Seem to be completely brainwashed
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory because you want to be your own GOD-- No body can be God but at least one can be human. Islam has converted human into demons who is thirsty of blood, This whole world is gasping under the fear only and only due to Islam, you can never prove the lusty heaven but everybody in this world knows that Islam has brought hell here on this earth and under the name of peace people like you are but participating in the game of destruction.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger And also it is mentioned in the QURAN that God purify souls with hell, and if you want to know the confermity of the QURAN, you should search for the big scientific discoveries that were mentioned in the QURAN before they have been discovered, and also historical prophecies, and if you don't want I just ask you to see this video made by me, I discovered the name of ALLAH written by continents, after I saw the name of MOHAMED on another video : watch?v=w1tjjjOzrFg
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory I discovered the name of ALLAH written by continents, -- Please don't refere such childish things, internet is full of such contents, such things are extremely childish and shows how brainwashed you are. As per the scientific facts in Islam, I have already proved the so called scientific fallacy. Its better come out of your dreams and see the real things. But if there is some, discoveries are all human acts, what so exceptional in that.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger The name of ALLAH and the name of MOHAMED is clearly written by the 5 continents, if you saw it you knew it, and you are liying, because it is so obvious, but if you denied it, the good hearts will not, if those names written by the 5 continents are childish, so what are you? Nothing! But no, you are human, and the names of ALLAH and MOHAMED formed by the 5 continents are so clear, you are underestimate this and you will be sorry for that, you will see!
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory The name of ALLAH and the name of MOHAMED--- You go and look into such childish things, it is nice for your entertainment. Internet is full of such fallcies, and Muslims in on top of doing all such things to coicile themself. It also shows how insecure you people feel. Go and enjoy such things, it suits your dead mind because logic and facts never goes into your head, you are moving into completely different topic. Go find somebody else for such childish things.
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger As I already said you are one of two options, a liar if you really saw the names formed by continants, or your heart is blind not your eyes, and about science I already gave you many facts, but you denied them like if you were God, all is clear, you just have to follow your heart as I said, and your heart is always telling you that muslims are liars and you are the truth, it is telling you that you are above science, that's why you denied the scientific facts in the QUR'AN
ThePrideglory 8 months ago
@ThePrideglory the speed of light that Einstein has calculated in his life, the QUR'AN calculated it before him 1400 years ago, -- It was calculated 5000 years ago, not only the speed of light but its combinations, the structures of universe and the whole cosmology is present in Vedas. you are so much talking of searching, go and search about all such discoveries, many of them beyond present science. you fool, (why did you hide this, let others see)
RoyaleBengalTiger 8 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Good, we are now in it, so if those discoveries are in Vedas, so Vedas is also a book from the library of God :D it is just that simple, all beleivers know that when God sent man on earth, he sent his book with him, but when man began to multiplicate, they unfortunatly seperate themselves and each one with his own thoughts, but God still sending books to them to awake them to the truth, but then men add thoughts to the book of God, and falsificate it...
ThePrideglory 7 months ago
@ThePrideglory You are again applying your mind and started playing different tune, finding that your earlier logic did not work. But you forget that in none of the way you will be able to prove Islam noble. Now you are trying to own God and include that with Islam. Islam has nothing to do with God, this is the manifestation of Mohamed. The whole existence of Islam is the biggest presence on evil on this earth.
RoyaleBengalTiger 7 months ago
@RoyaleBengalTiger Yes you are right, you are an angel, you can not be wrong, thank you for your misunderstanding of the words of God, at last I just have to say, you have your understanding and I have mine, and that what God says to us, and we have to respect each other over all that, that's what my God says to me in the QUR'AN, so I respect your misunderstanding and your harming, my peace and light be upon you
ThePrideglory 6 months ago
@ThePrideglory thank you for your misunderstanding of the words of God---This is the biggest misconception you are having that you are following words of God, in fact all you are following is the thoughts of a very dangerous minded person. People following Hitler might have been thinking same to you that they are following a great and noble concept till every they saw the consequences. All muslims are forced to this dangerous cult in the confusion that this is from god.
RoyaleBengalTiger 6 months ago
@ThePrideglory Yes you are right, you are an angel, you can not be wrong,---Did I say I am angel and does it required for me to be angel. Its not about me or anybody, its about a dangerous cult who is ready to ingulf the whole world and people like you are just get blind in the hope of the heaven and many virgins and might be due to the fear of the hell. Because I am very sure any muslims very clear mind read Quran will realize it immediately how evil it is.
RoyaleBengalTiger 6 months ago
@ThePrideglory t I just have to say, you have your understanding and I have mine--Is this the answer and is this the solution. You saying this world is going to erode the evil, will erode the crime been performed under the banner of so called evil Allah over the centuries, where milllions of people lost life only because they refuse to accept this ideology, millions of women were raped merciflessly and then sold to slave market. It shows that you have no sense at your heart and you are blind
RoyaleBengalTiger 6 months ago
@ThePrideglory and that what God says to us--Allah is not God and Quran is not the words of God. Quran is the manifestation of the Mohamed's thought. If you really want to reach to Go, you have to move away from this deadly cult because knowingly or unknowingly you are in the league of evil which is sure way of disaster for individual, for society and for whole world.
RoyaleBengalTiger 6 months ago
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@ThePrideglory and that what God says to us, and we have to respect each other over all that---Really, you want me again to give so called peaceful verses.Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"008.018 That, and also because Allah is He Who makes feeble the plans and stratagem of the Unbelievers.
RoyaleBengalTiger 6 months ago