New Course from The Jewish Learning Institute: Beyond Belief

[FactVsReligion]

I don't respect your god.

[itsthatmovieguy]

Chabad does endorse the State of Israel. The Rebbe z"h was adamant in his wanting Israel not to give back any land to the Arabs after 1967

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy untrue chabad has always been anti zionist and this goes back to the "three oaths".

[itsthatmovieguy]

@BrooklynNotQueens hmm so that's why Chabad commemorates the formation of the IDF and why the Rebbe zt"l fiercely supported the Israeli nation and people - indeed all Jews - during the Six Day War?

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy its what i learned directly from chabad. why do you pretend that chabad is jewish or that chabad is zionist?

[itsthatmovieguy]

@BrooklynNotQueens Most lubavitchers I know support the State of Israel, a few have sons who joined the religious units in tzahal. Who's pretending? I didn't learn this from "Chabad" - there is no official leader anymore, obviously - I know from first-hand experience from everyday people, people you fail to recognize and respect when you generalize everything from your self-righteous soapbox.

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy actually i learned in part from one of the official translators of the now dead rasha schneerson so my sources are good and yours suck.

מיהו יהודי‎?

chabadniks are at best משומדים

learn to investigate before reaching conclusions.

didn't you go to college?

[itsthatmovieguy]

@BrooklynNotQueens Yes, I have a J.D./Ph.d, I did go to college, thank you. I've also served for ten years fighting for a country you claim to love but dishonor by your malicious speech and attitude. My son died for the Jewish State so you can insult other Jews? I pray to G-d you don't live in Israel.

So perhaps the Rebbe allegedly didn't support aspects of Zionism, but the younger generation of lubavitchers openly do. We can agree to disagree on the Rebbe, who as you mentioned, is dead.

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy in any case you never investigated chabad and you are unable to summarize my point of view. since you can't do analysis and cannot talk about points of view that are not your own its clear you're no intellectual. i could get a crowd of normal Jews to mock you..

I bet you're a creationist and thats all we need to know.

A fun fact for a jd would be chabads law allowing married men to used hookers when their wives are niddah. Didn't know that....did you?

veritas trumps chabad

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy you never learned the basic theology of hasidgoyim which clearly states why they are antizionist.

i bet you are a creationist hasid and as such you're not a Jew and have no place in olam ha ba.

ברוך אתה יהוה אלוהינו מלך העולם שלא עשני חסיד

אמן

[BrooklynNotQueens]

@itsthatmovieguy Hey this has reminded me that the salient feature of chabad ain't its inherent antizionism at all. Duh.

When I travel and talk about Judaism I always explain that the core tenet of chabad is that when the messiah comes all the goyim will become the servants of (chabad) Jews. I then clarify that actual Jews don't believe that pagan crap at all. Now I'm gonna yap about this a LOT more. You have NO IDEA how angry this servant thing makes people.

[itsthatmovieguy]

@BrooklynNotQueens I don't believe in that servant "crap" at all either, nor am I an adherent to Chabad. My one argument - which has yet to be disproved by you - is that the Rebbe supported the military actions of Israel during the Six Day War, a move that in affect puts him at odds - perhaps in practice but not in ideology - against Satmar, Neturei Karta. I have no interest in your point of view, let alone in summarizing it. Is this a HS test?

As for analysis and such, sorry, I have a life.

[itsthatmovieguy]

@BrooklynNotQueens Also, out of sheer curiosity, what makes someone a "normal" Jew? And what are you, in terms of being a Jew? We already know "arrogant," "bigoted," "self-righteous," so other terms are encouraged.

[901utah]

My household needs to become more Jewish.I think me and Mike need to focus more on the symbolism and what it means.

[thdju]

Why is Zionism a bad thing? "Americanism"/ patriotism isn't a bad thing!

[jihadlovestoyota]

maybe because zionism uses judaism for political purposes

[thdju]

Well then, what about the Christian right and "Focus on the Family?" They use Christianity for political purposes. Zionism is a love for Israel and the support of it being a state. Just because most Zionists are Jewish doesn't make it bad or wrong.

[5enecan]

Why does JLI and Chabad use Zionism to do outreach?

It is almost as if Chabad endorses it.

[piniforever1]

very well made