UFO - Debunking Pleiadian Beamship Sounds part 5.wmv

[inagod]

BM is a big joke,all done with models

[inagod]

for 35 years Iv'e know Billy is a hoaxer,models,nice job for those stupid enought to believe a guy who is the only one who see them and photos them.

[saptarship1]

Thing is... according to the evidence the original sound was heard by independent witnesses, policeman, farmers & local festival goers from over a mile away! The UFO was invisible so WAS NOT SEEN on the day so this video is irrelevant to the evidence. Produce the same sound so it can be heard up to a mile away so people in the area can't find the sound source or speakers, amps, electricals, etc, & do it with funding from disability benefit & 1 arm &... fair enough your argument is valid.

[JOOGAL1111]

excellent job man don,t listen to all these meier fans there a bunch of fucking idiots defending that old fabulist wanker. He has his apologists all over these youtube vids and others and no amount of convincing will sway them.loved all your vids and you are well hated by meier fans because they hate there saviour being outed for the fraud he is. Had a lengthy conversation with one and he,s was near foaming at the mouth with hatred for you so i came and had a look and now i know why keep it up

[Mrmorlam1]

@JOOGAL1111 Thanks man. Appreciated. I realised a while ago it's pointless talking to the Meier nuts. Some are just bods looking for proof if it's real or not and some are fans who won't listen to any reasoning. You prove this or that and they change the subject. Typical denial. Thanks for the support.

[JOOGAL1111]

@Mrmorlam1 no probs, you have a new subscriber.

[konsit]

@Mrmorlam1 Come on guys don't be so anal haha, what you guys are saying is pretty darn hypocritical hahahah. Mrmorlam, your recreations freakin blew me away, good shit man seriously. However, there are elements about Meier's material which sets it WAY apart from yours. In one of Meier's videos a beamship swoops over a tree and the tip of the tree sways as a result, also tests were done on his photos, pixel counts and thermal readings. It would be cool if you could duplicate this too bro :)

[konsit]

Also, how much research have you actually done into the Meier case? I think you should spend a really long time looking into his material if you are actually looking at debunking his case because (unintentionally) you've overlooked ALOT. I support Meier, I'll admit that, but only because I've been researching his material for YEARS, this doesn't mean though that I am fully convinced, but I lean far more to his authenticity than anything else. I respect that you actually walked the talk too man.

[konsit]

I'll just point out that all of Meier's photo's and videos, infact all of his evidence, has been put forth for scientific analysis and have all passed with flying colors and it's been determined for a while now, that Meier hasn't used models. The pixel counts showed that the object was at the same distance as the tree and was as large as Meier had estimated. Further tests were done and revealed that the "ufo's" emitted heat. If you can replicate this that would be very helpful to your cause.

[konsit]

Respond to this video... Oh and I'm subscribing to your channel cause you're a fuckin wizard haha.

[Mrmorlam1]

@robertwoods22 The other detail is that meier would have recorded the sounds from underneath his model/s which is where the loudest part is. I recorded mine from the side which is not very loud. Sounds silly maybe but its true. Try it yourself? Its very easy as you can see. I put it on youtube to get other to try it themselves. If meiers stuff is so easy to duplicate in essense then anyone can have a go now they know what I did. So it doesn't just fall on me. Try it.

[Mrmorlam1]

@robertwoods22 I appreciate where you're coming from. I would love to have it tested properly etc but I'm no computer/technical wizz and I've got no means of analysing apart from running the sounds through an online oscilliscope. Anyway, you do know I got the sounds without trying to get them? They just happened when I strung up a couple of small models and the wind blew. I didn't expect them at all and never thought I would ever get anything like it. Total surprise. There is another detail.

[Ieghairdude]

Sir, I have a question. I used to give Meier some credibility when I first listened to the tapes by that Rudolf guy.. But after just merely glancing at the wedding cake photos, I was extremely dissapointed. I mean, you don't have to do some extensive photographic analysis to figure out that those are fakes, just merely looking at them tells you they're a piece of shit models. They looked nothing like I would expect out of advanced alien spacecraft.

[Mikeyc826]

If i hear this sound, i'll know the UFO is fake.

[skitch88]

really? you never figured that out, for 35 years...huh... everyone who ever had a tape echo knows this trick.

[Mrmorlam1]

@skitch88 Excuse me??? 35 years you say? WTF are you talking about? I got these sounds the first time I went out and that was that. So it took about 3 seconds for me to know how they're done. What's this 35 years bullshit? I wasn't looking for 35 years mate. Maybe you were?

[skitch88]

@Mrmorlam1 im talking about being able to make this sound up in about 10 seconds, so you're not impressive

[joecane6340]

Here's a REAL audio analysis v=8Uo9pSjiaY4

[flyandbee123]

i agree with borthway, you've done well. But not enough mate.

[flyandbee123]

i agree with borthwey

[sauroman1]

I remember that railway sounds similarly right after train passes away

It sounds harmonically, I like this music

[sauroman1]

I remember that railway sounds similarly after train passes

It sounds harmonically.

[SidarthurSoluna]

You're obviously using modern equipment to duplicate the Billy Meier UFO sounds. How about using equipment only available in Switzerland in the 1970s? That would be an even cuter trick, don't you think?

[SidarthurSoluna]

So then, can you prove to everyone that your model photos and footage can pass all the computer tests the Billy Meier evidence has. That would be an even cuter trick than building the models and rigging them in the trees. Oh, did you also rig your models with fishing string in the trees using only one arm? Remember that Meier is said to have taken HUNDREDS of photos and all of them have passed computer analysis proving them genuine. Can YOURS do the same?

[JTruthseeker]

Believe it or not, you may have just proven Billy Meier to be for real, because apparently testing model aircraft in wind tunnels suspended on strings like as shown here can also determine the sound vibrations and wind turbulence for the flight efficiency of that aircraft before it is built to full scale. Therefore as much as you are hoping Billy Meier to be a fraud, this only proves the sound efficiency of the object's shape and design, should it actually be coming from a real fall scale UFO.

[superbu1]

Brilliant! Thanks for finally uncovering this, one of the final unsolved mysteries in the Meier hoax case. For those still in denial -- really, you don't think it's just an eensy, weensy bit of a coincidence that the sound of a metal UFO model hanging from a wire just HAPPENS to create a very similar sound to what Meier claimed was a UFO "engine"? Connect the dots, people!

[electronicmedium]

just reverberation

[freddddddddie]

what a waste of your time. people will soon see through all deceits and will find a way to find out the doubtless truth regardless of ignorances. billy meier is more than what u make him out to be, hes an important part of the conscious awakening. those pridefully causing harm to others will be left behind. the deceivers that should be revealed are the ones we never expected because they've been the ones we trusted so much to justify war while spreading fear in they're gain. but not ever again

[borthwey]

You've got to be joking right? How much have you listened from Meier's recording? You know why it's called Beamship symphony? It's because there are MANY kinds of sounds. Your experiment here resembles one of the types of sounds present, that's all. This is like a caveman claiming to be able to replicate the sound of a cassete player reproducing a violin concerto by screeching a arrow against his bow string, thus proving that there is no such thing as electricity.

[Mrmorlam1]

@borthwey No I'm not joking and i did expect people like you to realise that meier simply used several of them at once. If you are as clever as you make out then you should have got that by now. Surely.

Look at the recent analysis comparing my sounds with meiers. My sounds have been cut off at and above 4KHz so you can't see they have the same signatures. All it takes is for a few models up at once and voila! ...you have a "SYMPHONY"

BTW, did you think those wobbling Meier models were real?

[borthwey]

@Mrmorlam1 I think that the "wobbling Meier models" are not models, but actual flying spacecraft. And your efforts so far have only reinforced that conviction. But if you are still up to it, I dare you to make some "energy-craft" replications that are somewhat convincing. Because the ones you have already produced aren't. And as for the Beamship Symphony, adding more of the same instruments (plates) isn't enough. Meier's sound is more complex than that.

[UfoScan]

One should keep in mind that Phil did NOT attempt to recreate the UFO sounds. He found these sounds to be a CONSEQUENCE of suspending his model on a line. He found that the line vibrated with the wind and that the resulting vibrations were then amplified by the model. He realized at that point that the sound resulting from this was eerily similar to the sounds that Mr. Meier claims were produced by alien spacecraft. A coincidence ? Draw your own conclusions.

[Mrmorlam1]

If anyone would like to download this video and run the sounds through an analyser and let everyone else know the result - don't just SAY it's the same or not, prove it. Show the sound analysis. I have done this already and the spectrum I got went from nothing to about 6KHz mainly. There is a main peak at 1KHz. It reminds me of the original analysis which stated that the frequencies corresponded with the Schumann resonance and reminds me of the results I got.

[The3rdPlateau]

I don't quite follow you; the fishing line vibrates, and the model craft is suspended from the line...are you saying that the sound itself is actually coming from these vibrations transferring into the model craft? Because it sounded like you were saying that it was just the line itself, and nothing more, making the sound. So if I am correct, may I ask what is the metal used in the model craft, or what product was the metal retrieved from?

[Mrmorlam1]

@The3rdPlateau Sorry for any misunderstanding. When I was filming this it was the very first morning I had gone out and tried tying fishing line up between tree branches and I rushed the explanation a little in my excitement. It's actually the models themselves that make the sound because they are made of surfaces that vibrate along with the line. When they are not up there is no sound. As soon as I put them on the line I got the sounds. They work like speaker cones.

[Mrmorlam1]

@The3rdPlateau The models are plastic plates with a small wafer thin stainless steel pot lid on top all tied together with fishing line. You can use wire but I ran out so I just used some more fishing line to tie them all together. DON'T use glue to stick anything together or the vibrations are damped. The larger models are glued together and so the sounds are there but they are diminished because of the glued surfaces. It's the small models that were not glued that made the loudest sounds.

[pookie67]

really excellent work on the models and movements. I'm having a Beamship model built (for a film on the subject) at this very moment. Don't think it'll be much better than yours. I'm curious though, how exactly did you create the sounds? What was used to amplify them? The suspended hi-tension line by itself amplifies the sound so well?

[pookie67]

@pookie67 i guess on further examination is IS just the 'line itself' which amplifies the sound (no speakers or equipment) that's amazing. Obviously something Meier must have discovered while flying these things around and recorded them at close range (wind in microphone and all) Thus the reports of all the people who heard the sounds for miles around are made up or exaggerated

[Mrmorlam1]

@pookie67 Thanks for your comments. It's the line which vibrates in the wind but it's the models themselves that make the sounds. If they were not attached to the line there would be no sounds...as I found out rather quickly. As soon as I put the models up the sound started. it's because they are surfaces vibrating which is exactly what speaker cones do. They move the air and create sound.

[pookie67]

@Mrmorlam1 That's amazing. I don't want you to give away all your secrets but what are the exact materials used for the models? Is there a light metal or aluminum body? Is it the metal which resonates the sound? I would imagine a model made of different materials (foam sculpt or such) may not amplify them. I would love to know what those "sound experts" in the "Contact" documentary (from the early 80's) would have to say about this, lol

[Mrmorlam1]

@pookie67 I'm afraid the reports may be somewhat exagerated yes but who knows? You simply can't trust what Michael Horn, or Meier himself for that matter, say. You can imagine Meier having a few plastic plates lying around and taking a few out around the area, tying them up to various trees and letting the wind do the work. If it's too windy the sounds can't build up in resonance. i was very surprised at how loud they were. You can here the sounds from just one model a good 100 feet away.

[Mrmorlam1]

@pookie67 One more interesting fact is that when I was at Oxshott heath on a hilltop there were various people walking past and very few of them could actually see the models suspended, even though they walked right past them! I was very surprised at that. They asked "what are you doing?" and when I pointed to the models they were surprised they didn't see them in the first place. So when people say they saw nothing at Meier's locations I'm not surprised anymore.

[biglover70]

you are really the best Ufo investigator!!!! Best what I have seen on youtube so far!!!!

[Mrmorlam1]

@biglover70 Many thanks.

[ReneesYou]

Amazing. Thank you for informing us of this. I had my suspicions at the beginning.

[DiggyUSSR]

doesn't sound exactly the same, and after the sounds started several people showed up including a police officer who looked for loudpeakers in the area, surely they would have noticed these things

[imaginosdesdinova]

please show us some analysis reports :)

[Mrmorlam1]

@imaginosdesdinova Analysis will be done by Derek Bartholomaus who now has the little ufo model that I got the sounds from. We'll have that report to compare with the original and we'll see.

[imaginosdesdinova]

please show us some analysis reports :)

[Namaste1001]

Replicating the original sound does not debunk anything. It only means you can make a reasonable similar copy. Nothing else.

[currentspider]

Before debunking educate your self first by Googling " Billy Eduard Meier - UFOBLOGGER"

[johnyapollo]

@mrmorlam

Hahahaha r u telling me billy went around placing these models, that's even more silly, the material that you are presenting as a hoax has indeed been proven by qualified people to be authentic, but I guess it's like a splinter in ur head and u jus have to prove it a hoax, good luck

[johnydubz]

Are you kidding me lool people from miles away heard the sound and the UFOs were bigger than that, personally I don't really care about the UFOs, it's the message that matters, the predictions that are always accurate explain that!

[Mrmorlam1]

@johnydubz If people from miles around heard the noise its because there were several models placed among the trees and the statement "miles around" sounds like a typical Michael Horn OVER-statement so be careful with those. These little models are very loud sometimes, depending on the wind, and people on the heath where I took the sounds were looking at me from a distance. It is loud enough I assure you, especially if you put a few up.

[GJMSundberg]

@johnydubz

well if there's a bigger model and bigger fishing line wouldn't that mean louder sound?

[uzzz]

This is really fun I'm smiling all the time LOL this myth is BUSTED !

[uzzz]

Hey Mrmorlam1 this is the same sound and you can only find out if you do the exact same trick as Billy did 35 years ago and he noticed this sound and could record it in the fields, and used it as UFO SOUND.... ! Really great job !!! Thanks for posting !

[Mrmorlam1]

@uzzz Thanks uzzz. It was an accident but I guess it would have hapened anyway if it comes from models. BTW, the loudest sounds come from simple plastic plate UFO models with a metal dish on top and NO glue anywhere. Just wire them together.