@natalie I believe you are seeking support for your fellow iranians, they did not come to the balkans to help their fellow human beings, they came to spread their ideology and try to undermine the civilized societes of europe. you know they are in their own, and we should only support NATO, or any European Interest as we did before the Ottoman Empire come to spoil our way of life, they made us go back to the cave age. Now our Loyalty is only for Europe!!!
@xycje Hi, I think both of you are right, I can see that Natalie is against Iranians race mixing and I'm sure she is against Iranians taking Arabian lifestyle, Natalie said she's not muslim, we are talking about two different things here... all I'm saying is that we can't generalize and say all Iranians are like Arabs and muslim, because apparantly this girl Natalie is not and she wants her people to stay Indo-European and not become arabianized.
@xycje But it's obvious that our loyalty is for Europe, I totally agree, we are europeans, but Indo-European Unity would be good, I think it would inspire Iranians to stay Indo-European, and we can only achieve that by accepting them, certainly not by rejecting them, by rejecting them, they would feel they don't belong:( while they do, they are Indo-European, so are Indians, we could support each other, economically, politically and culturally,
@xycje maybe it would also help Iranians and Indians to see others are undermining their great culture, our great culture, not only their great culture, our common great Indo-European culture and how others are trying to make them go back to the cave age and so that they would refuse going back to the cave age and so that in the end they would become Europeanized instead of arabianized. It would be better for everyone, it's a win-win situation.
@xycje However, I agree with you when you say our loyalty is only for Europe, we always stood by Europe, fought for Europe. But if we (not only Albanians, but I mean all of us, Europeans,Americans, Russians) could achieve making those brainwashed Iranians see arabs are no good, than wee would see Iranians go forward and trying to become more and more civilized and Europeanized, not arabianized, than we wont see Iranians coming to spread arabian ideologies..damn those arabs, they're poison
@Natalie85101 Now please stop harassing Albanians. What you are saying is only superficial, superficial people have those stereotypes in mind, trust me,
@brainwashedserb have you even try to google the E-V13 gene pics? You will see there is nothing in Africa and that it basically gets from Illyria out to the world. However we might not be immortals but the Bright Brothers, Einstein among others are E-V13 and the Bizantium Roman empire and the Forces of Alexander the Great, so I could go on and on.....
also google Dardanus, In Greek mythology, Dardanus was a son of Zeus and Electra, daughter of Atlas, and founder of the city of Dardania on Mount Ida in the Troad. Dardanus and Batea have Erichthonius who had a son Tros (Troy) who had a son Illus (Illyria). It is amazing to be an E-V13 !!!!!
@brainwashedserb The E haplogroup is indeed African, but the mutation V13 is European, the mutation V13 is the depegmented version, which means the V13 people can have blue-green-gray eyes, blond, reddish, brunette hair --> European features, just like there is a difference between I and J haplogroups, J1 is middle eastern, J2 is the European version, the J2 carries the genes and alleles responsible for European features, such as light eyes and hair
@brainwashedserb That goes for every other haplogroup, the European version differ from the Asian and African versions, the changing DNA is an ongoing process. In fact, I think in some 5000-10 000 years Africans and Asians would look very different from now, I think they would get white, depigmented. Not that it matters, it's just that it's an ongoing proces, the DNA tends to change just like that.
@DonJeta007 I google it and I started to read the book "The Albanians: an ethnic history from prehistoric times to the present" written by Edwin E. Jacques I read page 55 as you advise it and it amazing, I remember that next to the old troy was a city called Dardania too, if you google the troy maps you will see it. The more I read the more I get amaze to have this glorious genes!!! Thanks again for the great book, this book is dedicated to all Illlyrians in the diaspora too!!
All the iranians can suck my albanian dick! Go and marry one of your cousins you piece of shit! I've been hoping and supporting every country who even talks about attacking that fucking backwards county!
FUCK IRAN, FUCK YOUR FLAG FUCK EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT YOUR UGLY COUNTRY!
@albonor stop it you, she is right what she says, if Albanians had Germans as neighbours, we would be much richer than now with having Serbs as neighbours,
@albonor Iranians can't help it they have Pakis and Arabs as neighbours :( Please stop it, she's not that bad you know, she's just hurt, that's why she was acting like that towards Albanians
@Natalie85101 and why they are doing that, because Greek- Romans-Iranians, Germans, Albanians etc. etc. are Indo-Europeans, oldest blood, oldest history
@Natalie85101 Yes I understand you feel threatend,we all feel like that, they're everywhere now,in Europe,everywhere:( they make 14 to 32 children, trying to become majority
@albonor She refuses to belong to Arabs, if she feels European, let her be, I don't see her as a threat to our "mighty" race, when she's willign to belong to us, to be one of us,
@Natalie85101 educated Western Europeans don't give a shit if I'm from the Balkans/Kosovo or not,they treat me as their own I live in Belgium and Belgians treat me as their own.
@Natalie85101 You wrong about East & West Europe,that was 60 years ago,with the Jewish Bolshevik revolution, they created this hate between east and western Europe,but that's passé now.
@Natalie85101 Trust me, you wont even notice I'm not Belgian,, real Albanians learn the language, work hard, and are very integrated in West & Eastern European countries
@Natalie85101 DOn't forget that there are many gypsies that claimed Albanian ancestry,during Kosovo war,so that they would receive an Asylum residence,DOnt confuse gypsies with Albanians
@Natalie85101 They called their uncles, brothers, cousins?LOL now I know for sure, he's either a gypsy or a Turk from the Balkans wannabe Albanian, or you just made that story up
@Natalie85101 speaking Albanians does not necessarly mean he's Albanian,you speak Danish, but you're not Danish-Danish, I'm telling you,there are Turks and gypsies in Kosovo and Albanian
@Natalie85101 No No NO, only uneducated people put you with pakis, educated people don't,, I know Iranian is Indo-European..and I'm educated, I studied at the Belgian University
@Natalie85101 The bullshit of uneducated people is worthless anyway, because they are Not educated, they're not even authorised to talk about others, they don't have the knowledge:(
@Natalie85101 Natalie, I totally understand what you feel:( yes they are stealing our history, they are making Greeks, and Romanians Africans:(, they are making Iranians Arabs, pfff
@Natalie85101 and we invented everything, all scienses, that's why they are making Greeks-Romans African, Iranians they are making Arabs, Why? because they want to devide us,
@Natalie85101 because united we would take over the world, we would rule the world, we can u know, we have the intelligence, Indo-Europeans invented everything
@Natalie85101 the Belgian girl got harassed by a moroccon,but she had Albanian boyfriend, her Albanian boyfriend stood up for her,in 10 sec the morrocon guy called 20 other morrocon guys
@Natalie85101 and the Albanian guys got help of 3 other Albanians, so 4 Albanians against 20 Morrocons, I saw it with my own eyes, and all the morrocons had to go with the Ambulance.
@Natalie85101 I don't think you have seen any real Albanian so far. We are Dinarics, just like the Yugoslavs, tallest and strongest people in the world.
@Natalie85101 For decades, we are World Champions in almost every fighting sports, just google World Champions in Kickboxing, Thai Boxing, Boxing,, they're all Albanians:-)
@Natalie85101 Because calling uncles,cousins,brothers is not ALBANIAN STYLE, I've seen many fights among Albanians and Morrocons here in Belgium, and one fight was about a Belgian girls,
@Natalie85101 LoL that's the first time I hear. Alban means white,Europeans are All Albos, we're all Albans, we're all white..I doubt it very much Danish people calling Albanians pakis
@Natalie85101 the name of the Belgian king is Albert, a Belgian friend of mine, his surename is Albrechts:-) and he's Germanic, Belgian people in Flanders, they're Germanic:-)
@Natalie85101 Also the hate between Albanians and Eastern Europeans is an imagination only,95% of Eastern and 99% of Western European countries have recognized the Independence of Kosovo
@Natalie are you Iranian or turk or Ottomanian? sounds like you would like the albanians to be here only for 100 or 600 year wich is the exact time of the Ottoman occupation of the Balkans, but if you go a bit further you find our National Hero Scanderberg the king who fought the Ottomans and our National Hero. google Eupedia genetics so you can have at least a better sources of those sources that you have that have nothing to do with reality ;-)
@DonJeta007 I totally agree, if you check the E-v13 in Germany and Britain it coincides with the Roman occupation of those countries in the Roman empire, and that was more than 2000 years ago, so those e-v13 in those counties are faithful history witness of how long the Albanian or Illyrian genes have been around. This totally destroy Natalie85101 mikeymouse theories
However what we are talking here is that the Illyrians belong to the Indo E-V13 genes. Any decent religion allows people to change it and have free will and free choice, This is what people talk about. looks all middleeast and see how Christians are treat it, no where in the christian world that happens to anyone. Looks at the birth of Christianity in Constatinopla and see if they are allow to worship freely? anyway the point is that we are Byzantium Roman, the two headed eagle
The bottom line is not to use fallacies that appeal to history without any proper documentation, or fallacies appealing to scientist from kindergarden. anyway no body in europe attack any religion as a matter of fact it is the Christian faith the one that has allowed all races and religions to worship whatever they want. a Christian, a Jew or whatever else can be from any race but the religion does not make the race. However what we are talking here is that the Illyrians belong to
@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
to the East and took back Persian wives with them read
albanian derives from the illyrian clan of albanoi, and as ptolemy writes the capital of albanopolis. this clan eventually overtook other illyrian clans and became dominant.
there is alot of evidence to support the illyrian-albanian lineage. 1:language, the albanian language, though unique as an independent indo-european lang, has influences of greek and roman due to its role as colony/province to both civs;the ghegh/tosk divide is approx. to the via egnatia. 2:physical features, like a bridged nose, compare to the greek straight, recorded by the ancient greeks.3:genes, E-V13 originates in Kosovo/n.albania spreading throughout
@xycje haha thank you, someone who knows their stuff unlike that mythuseuropa person, i'm 14 years old and have more logic than him haha, he needs to go read a few books.
@elsajelly Now we are talking! you are right, Albania, Kosovo, Constantinopla are the founding countries of the Bizantium Roman Empire as a matter of fact it existed from 0 AD until 1480, it was the longest surviving branch of the Roman Empire. But from that point on the local population were enslave by the Otomans and force to chance their religion and names.
@MythusEuropa there's no link between albanians&iranians;reason lots of albanians have muslim names is cos when OttomanEmpire ruled some balkan countries they enforced islam upon the then orthodox-christian albanians in conclusion albanians had to change their surnames to more islamic ones. plus just cos someone's first name isnt from their country doesnt mean that person isn't from that country e.g.I have a firstname with scandinavian origin but i'm albanian, this doesn't mean i am not albanian
if you can google just google the E-V13 halopgroup and you can see by the picture it expands from the balkans out, there are not even E-V13 in Iran, probably in the Balkan War they were brought as slaves to a fight that did not belong to them. Now it is over, the Iranians can go back to Iran. Clasiffy us correctly as being part of Alexander or Roman Empire. if you want to fight your muslims wars fight them in the middle east. the E-V13 gene belong to the Balkans alone!!
@DonJeta I totally agree, Albania is mostly atheist, if we want to be anything by history we are part and builders of the Byzantium Roman Empire. We don't care about middle eastern religions, it has never been part of us. Look at our Symbol the two headed eagle, it is totally Roman. One Head toward Rome the other Towards Constantinopla. We are going to rebuild bizantium again!!!!
by the way the two headed eagle means: one head looks to Rome the other head to Constantinople. so We are Romans. The Ottomans need to go back to Turkey where they came from.
Maybe you are Iranian and you would like to be Albanian. if you do you can apply for residence, but you will be still Iranian! ;-) in the mean time we are E-V13 the ones who destroy the Persian Empire
@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
"was taken by Ottoman Turks as Slaves and Soldiers to the Balkans.
Historians and Scientists have all stated this. " ==> this claim is totally false, the true is Ottomans come to Albania, but the true nature of Albanian are either from the Greek or Roman Empire. And the ones who cooperated to destroy the Persian Empire. you can watch the 300 movie. will be more informative than your facts.
@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
to the East and took back Persian wives with them.
there is no genetic connection at all with Iran as you can see on the genetic pool of the balkans google the following genectic image and you can see HgE1b1b1a2.png
@MythusEuropa what?? ahhahahaha....those scientists must have been high on something fucking strong! The only thing we have incommen with iranians is that we are both humans, other than that NOTHING ELSE!! Dont ever try to spread lies!!
@MythusEuropa what scientists you moron....there are no recorded migration to the western balkans since the slavs in the 5th and 6th century.....turks simply occupied the balkans they did not intermingle with their colonial subjects because they viewed them a less than themselves...just like the british did not intermingle with their subjects, its called colonial purity...albania in the caucusus doesnt have anything to do with shqiperia
@Natalie85101 What? No, we don't hate Caucasians, why are you saying that? We don't hate Caucasians, but it just doesn't make sense.We are speaking a Celto-Italic,Germano-Celtic language, our language is 50% Celtic,40% Germanic,40% Italic-Greek,35% Balto-Slavic, if we are living on the Balkans for only some hundreds of years, if we were brought there by the turks like you are claiming, than how do you explain our Celtic and Germanic roots? This is about the truth, not about hatred.
@Natalie85101 I know that Indo-Europeans share the same origins, so I know that we are kinsmen, but you need to understand we have problems on the Balkans because of the different territories, Serbs claim our territories, they say that we are the latest comers on the Balkans and that we were brought here by the Turks and that our territory is theirs, that's why we had all those wars on the Balkans.
@Natalie85101 Wait, I was talking about Arabs, I wasn't talking about Iranian, Azerbaijan people, or any other Caucasian people, I was talking about Middle Eastern people, such as Jews, Arabs. They have the same traditions and lifestyle, same religion, only different name of prophet, they did the same evil practices, imposing their religions to us, Indo-Europeans, not only Europeans, I was not trying to offent Iranians or Azerbaijan people..
@Natalie85101 war inbalkans was because of power, and the serbs wanting to maintain control. there were three major wars in the balkans in the 90s, in croatia, in bosnia, and in kosovo...what was the common denominator in all three, the serbian incursion by serb nationalists, you have no fuckin idea what your talking about
@Natalie85101 i dont care what some user name says, you are wrong, and here are some people to back my claim up...John Van Antwerp Fine, Mircea Eliade, Charles J. Adams,
@MythusEuropa you are a fuckin moron... i said 40,000 yrs ago when europe itself was settled not 4000yrs....again provide sources for your claim or shut the fuck up.....your facts are opionions, your opinions are shit.
@MythusEuropa you have no fuckin backup for your claims, you fuckin moron. i know there was a caucasion albania, but it does not have anything to do with albanians/illyrians, its just a name to describe geography, ie alb= mountains.
@MythusEuropa you are telling me about my own ethnicity and identity and about my own country of origin, which ive devoted my life to study, are you fucking kidding me. you fuckin douche bag...ive given you at least 5 sources so far, you have given me none....albania is what others call us, like what we call germans, rather then deutsche volk...these are names given by ousiders like the greeks, romans, etc.....we call ourselves shqiptar.
@MythusEuropa "...there is no recorded settlement migration into the western balkans, by other groups, than, and listed, slavic peoples, settling respectively in the 5th,6th"(The Albanians, Henry Skene, Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
@MythusEuropa MY FUCKING GOD, ALBANIA IN THE CAUCUSUS, WHICH IM VERY WELL AWARE OF, ITS NOT THE FIRST TIME IVE HEARD OF IT, DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALBANIA/N POEPLES IN THE WESTERN BALKANS.
Whats the name of this song?
Denatification 1 day ago
@natalie I believe you are seeking support for your fellow iranians, they did not come to the balkans to help their fellow human beings, they came to spread their ideology and try to undermine the civilized societes of europe. you know they are in their own, and we should only support NATO, or any European Interest as we did before the Ottoman Empire come to spoil our way of life, they made us go back to the cave age. Now our Loyalty is only for Europe!!!
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@xycje Hi, I think both of you are right, I can see that Natalie is against Iranians race mixing and I'm sure she is against Iranians taking Arabian lifestyle, Natalie said she's not muslim, we are talking about two different things here... all I'm saying is that we can't generalize and say all Iranians are like Arabs and muslim, because apparantly this girl Natalie is not and she wants her people to stay Indo-European and not become arabianized.
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@xycje But it's obvious that our loyalty is for Europe, I totally agree, we are europeans, but Indo-European Unity would be good, I think it would inspire Iranians to stay Indo-European, and we can only achieve that by accepting them, certainly not by rejecting them, by rejecting them, they would feel they don't belong:( while they do, they are Indo-European, so are Indians, we could support each other, economically, politically and culturally,
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@xycje maybe it would also help Iranians and Indians to see others are undermining their great culture, our great culture, not only their great culture, our common great Indo-European culture and how others are trying to make them go back to the cave age and so that they would refuse going back to the cave age and so that in the end they would become Europeanized instead of arabianized. It would be better for everyone, it's a win-win situation.
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@xycje However, I agree with you when you say our loyalty is only for Europe, we always stood by Europe, fought for Europe. But if we (not only Albanians, but I mean all of us, Europeans,Americans, Russians) could achieve making those brainwashed Iranians see arabs are no good, than wee would see Iranians go forward and trying to become more and more civilized and Europeanized, not arabianized, than we wont see Iranians coming to spread arabian ideologies..damn those arabs, they're poison
DonJeta0007 6 days ago
And by the way Africa is where all are from and Europe is not more
old than even the Bulgarians, not to mention the Greeks and Romans.
I fucking talk to Greeks and some Italians and say the same.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Now please stop harassing Albanians. What you are saying is only superficial, superficial people have those stereotypes in mind, trust me,
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@brainwashedserb have you even try to google the E-V13 gene pics? You will see there is nothing in Africa and that it basically gets from Illyria out to the world. However we might not be immortals but the Bright Brothers, Einstein among others are E-V13 and the Bizantium Roman empire and the Forces of Alexander the Great, so I could go on and on.....
xycje 1 week ago
also google Dardanus, In Greek mythology, Dardanus was a son of Zeus and Electra, daughter of Atlas, and founder of the city of Dardania on Mount Ida in the Troad. Dardanus and Batea have Erichthonius who had a son Tros (Troy) who had a son Illus (Illyria). It is amazing to be an E-V13 !!!!!
xycje 1 week ago
@xycje Pershendetje,
Faleminderit per fjalet e embla, me vjen mire qe kisha mundesine t'ua sjell nje liber te till per historine tone.
Have fun reading it:-)
Te perqafoj me zemer:-)
Nuk e di a je vajz apo djal, por me vjen mire qe ka Shqiptar te sjellshem si ty.
xoxo
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@xycje
Just an innocent question to You:What is so special about E-V13?
Does it makes you an Immortal Human Being??
E-V13 shows nothing but the fact that most Europians spring from Africa
brainwashedserb 1 week ago
@brainwashedserb The E haplogroup is indeed African, but the mutation V13 is European, the mutation V13 is the depegmented version, which means the V13 people can have blue-green-gray eyes, blond, reddish, brunette hair --> European features, just like there is a difference between I and J haplogroups, J1 is middle eastern, J2 is the European version, the J2 carries the genes and alleles responsible for European features, such as light eyes and hair
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@brainwashedserb That goes for every other haplogroup, the European version differ from the Asian and African versions, the changing DNA is an ongoing process. In fact, I think in some 5000-10 000 years Africans and Asians would look very different from now, I think they would get white, depigmented. Not that it matters, it's just that it's an ongoing proces, the DNA tends to change just like that.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
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@DonJeta007 I google it and I started to read the book "The Albanians: an ethnic history from prehistoric times to the present" written by Edwin E. Jacques I read page 55 as you advise it and it amazing, I remember that next to the old troy was a city called Dardania too, if you google the troy maps you will see it. The more I read the more I get amaze to have this glorious genes!!! Thanks again for the great book, this book is dedicated to all Illlyrians in the diaspora too!!
xycje 1 week ago
All the iranians can suck my albanian dick! Go and marry one of your cousins you piece of shit! I've been hoping and supporting every country who even talks about attacking that fucking backwards county!
FUCK IRAN, FUCK YOUR FLAG FUCK EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT YOUR UGLY COUNTRY!
Rrofte Shqiperia Etnike! Rrofte Amerika!
albonor 1 week ago
@albonor SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL ALBANIANS CAN SUUUCCCKKK
THE COCKS OF NOT JUST IRANIANS, BUT ALL ASIA, AFRICA, EUROPE,
LATIN AMERICA, AND CANADA AND U.S LIKE UR GIRLS AND WOMEN
DO DAILY IN EUROPE NOW
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor EVEN AFRICA AND ASIA IS NOW MORE ADVANCED THAN
ALBANIA WHO HAS NOT EVEN ONE ROAD.
IRANIANS HAVE MORE HONOR THAN UR ALBANIA.
THE ALBANIAN CRIMINAL WHO ATTACKED ME IN SPRING 2011, ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 too bad they did not kill you
albonor 1 week ago
@albonor EVEN THAT ALBANIAN CRIMINAL, TOLD HOW ALBANIA
DID NOT EVEN HAVE ONE ROAD IN THEIR BACKWARDS COUNTRY.
WHO DO U THINK U R, AMERICAN OR ENGLISH.
UR THE TRAH OF EUROPE AND EAST EUROPE.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 o please, go back and suck some ayatolla dick
albonor 1 week ago
@albonor stop it you, she is right what she says, if Albanians had Germans as neighbours, we would be much richer than now with having Serbs as neighbours,
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@albonor Iranians can't help it they have Pakis and Arabs as neighbours :( Please stop it, she's not that bad you know, she's just hurt, that's why she was acting like that towards Albanians
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Thank You soo much.
But the sad truth is we have to border these peoples.
They are our enemies and then force themselves on us all the time,
because they have no other destroy.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 and why they are doing that, because Greek- Romans-Iranians, Germans, Albanians etc. etc. are Indo-Europeans, oldest blood, oldest history
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 I cannot see anyone to do that to Albanians or Greeks.
But because the world of not those we have to border, always have been
and will be until they destroy Iranians.
Just wait
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Yes I understand you feel threatend,we all feel like that, they're everywhere now,in Europe,everywhere:( they make 14 to 32 children, trying to become majority
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Really.
They have always been the greatest enemies of Iranians.
But Iranians are soo fucking stupid to race - mix. as hell.
Now they want to go to war with us, if not all Arabs
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 U.S and all the nations I, mentioned you, all helped and still
help to attack Iran.
The Arabs have recently threaten Iran.
But nobody care about us.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
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@DonJeta0007 I cannot see anyone to do that to Albanians or Greeks.
But because the world of not those we have to border, always have been
and will be until they destroy Iranians.
Just wait
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 You know some Iranians curse their ancestors for have gone
to Iran and Asia.
The saddest thing is, they will racially degrade and destroy the Iranians one day.
I will see this.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor she wants to belong to us, to Indo-Europeans, not to Arabs, We need to respect her wishes. PLease.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@albonor She refuses to belong to Arabs, if she feels European, let her be, I don't see her as a threat to our "mighty" race, when she's willign to belong to us, to be one of us,
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@albonor FUCK URSELF AND UR ULGY HOOKERS AIN WEST EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES ASWELL. BACKWARDS.
WHAT ÍS ALBANIA WITHOUT EU. ALBANIA IS SOO HATED BY OTHER EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES, ALSO BECAUSE THEY R MUZZIES ..
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor ... WHEN THE BOSNIANS WERE BEING RAPED AND KILLED,
IRAN SAVED THEM FROM THE SERBS.
YOUR SO CALLED EUROPEAN FELLOWS, WATCHED HOW,
SERBS, MASSRAPED AND KILLED CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor IF IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF IRAN, SAVING THE BOSNIANS BACK
IN 1992 FROM BEING EXTINCT BY THE SERBS, THEY WOULD AND
MUSLIMS, WOULD NOT EVEN EXCIST TILL TODAY.
NOW U TALK SHIT ABOUT UR IRAN.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor YOU MUSLIMS OF EUROPE SHOULD THANK IRANIANS FOR
WHAT THEY DID ON THEIR OWN WHEN A WORLD WAS AGAINST THEM BACK
IN 1992 TO KILL ALL MUSLIMS IN THE BALKANS.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor U.S AND EU WERE ALL AGAINST IRAN, BUT THEY CAME AFTER
ALL ODDS AND SAVED WITH ALMOST NO GOOD WEAPONS AND WON
THE WAR AGAINST SERBS TO KILL MUSLIMS IN BALKAN.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor YOU KNOW WHY NATO ATTACKED THE SERBS,
BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF A WW3 WITH ARABIC MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
THAT WAS WHY, NOT BECAUSE U WERE INTRESTING, BECAUSE IF U WERE,
THEN WHY WHEN ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor ... THE MUSLIM BOSNIANS WERE MASSRAPED AND KILLED,
NO EUROPEAN OR U.S OR NATO, WAS AGAINST.
WHY BECAUSE THEY WERE MUSLIMS AND OF NO IMPORTANCE.
WHY SHOULD THEY ACT.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor 1. FIRST OF ALL EAST EUROPEANS, ARE NOT EVEN
REGARDED AS HUMANS FOR AMERICANS OR OTHER WEST EUROPEANS.
I LIVE HERE AND KNOW THIS AND SEE THIS EVERYDAY.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor I MEET CHRISTIAN POLES AND RUSSIANS WHO ARE ALL BITTER
ON WEST EUROPEANS, NOT TO TALK ABOUT
YOU.
WHEN IRANIANS AS THE ONLY ONES AGAINST THE WORLD,
WHO LIKE NOW, SAID THEY WOULD ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor BOMB AND ATTACK THE IRAN IF THEY EVEN DARED TO PUT
A FOOT IN BALKAN TO FIGHT AND SAFE THE MUSLIMS OF BALKANS.
AND NOW THE SAME IRANIANS WHO SAVED U, U RACIALLY DEGRADE THEM
AND ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor ... TRASH TALK THEM.
AND BY THE WAY WHAT A GOOD MUSLIM U R TO WANT ANOTHER
MUSLIMS COUNTRY, WHO SAVED U, TO BE BOMBED NOW.
DON'T CALL URSELF MUSLIM O.K.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@albonor AND BY THE WAY, IF U.S WANTS TO BOMB IRAN,
IT IS THE NON OF UR BUSINESS, IT IS THE BUSINESS OF U.S AND NOT
SO CALLED MUSLIMS OF ALBANIA.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 educated Western Europeans don't give a shit if I'm from the Balkans/Kosovo or not,they treat me as their own I live in Belgium and Belgians treat me as their own.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 You wrong about East & West Europe,that was 60 years ago,with the Jewish Bolshevik revolution, they created this hate between east and western Europe,but that's passé now.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 HAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH SURE THEY DO.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Come where I live, they are not treated as one of their own.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I live here and my best friends are from ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Trust me, you wont even notice I'm not Belgian,, real Albanians learn the language, work hard, and are very integrated in West & Eastern European countries
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 DOn't forget that there are many gypsies that claimed Albanian ancestry,during Kosovo war,so that they would receive an Asylum residence,DOnt confuse gypsies with Albanians
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 ... Russia, Poland, Ukraine and Romania ect. and
they are Christians and they are not WELCOME AT ALL.
The guy among the Turks, who attacked me was an Albanian.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 His name is Arian which is the name of the race of the Iranians,
called Aryan in English. Boys in Iran, can have this name still.
And it's written Arian also, meaning Aryan.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 and why did he attack you?
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Why, because as Isaid to you, he was in a GANG.
And they hang around our or their city since I am not a Dane,
anyways, they are gangs and hang around to create troubles for others.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 They live to attack people. If not in the spring 2011, they called all
their uncles, brothers and cosins to attack innocent peoples.
I am the onlymone to call the police.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 They called their uncles, brothers, cousins?LOL now I know for sure, he's either a gypsy or a Turk from the Balkans wannabe Albanian, or you just made that story up
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 HAHAHAHAHAHA NO no.
He is for God sake an Albanian. Everyone knows he is an Albanian and called
Arian.
Hahahahahahaha.
He told himself when the police came the 2. time I was attacked.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Everyone knows him and he even talks Albanian
for God's sake.
I just saw him again and he called me African, Paki ect. and called the other Turks
to harass me. I know to call police.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 speaking Albanians does not necessarly mean he's Albanian,you speak Danish, but you're not Danish-Danish, I'm telling you,there are Turks and gypsies in Kosovo and Albanian
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 My point is he is an Albanian, not Gypsy.
Gypsies look not pale or as Albanians and they have their own language also.
And I never said I was a Dane, though I am an Indo European.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Yes, so are we, that's why I don't understand why are you harassing and attacking Albanians on Ytube?
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 But I never called myself a Dane ever.
I am proud to be of the two heritages i am from, but when a world put
Iranians with Arabs, Pakies, Indians, Turkics, Turks and others, then ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 No No NO, only uneducated people put you with pakis, educated people don't,, I know Iranian is Indo-European..and I'm educated, I studied at the Belgian University
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 ... I feel soo angry and hurt.
But o.k as the Danes say, you cannot rescue a world Natalie.
If Iranians want to race mix. then they do.
But he was an Albanian, not Gypsy.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Google the study I gave you:"The Lexicostatistical comparison of the Main Indo-European language groups"
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Iranian is standing there together with Celtic, Italic-Greek-Germanic-Balto-Slavic:-)
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Only uneducated people talk shit about others, educated people don't, so why would you care about what uneducated people say?
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 The bullshit of uneducated people is worthless anyway, because they are Not educated, they're not even authorised to talk about others, they don't have the knowledge:(
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Pakies, Indians, Darks, Africans, Asians ect.
O.K Asians are not bad, but Iranians have their own race, culture ect. and
mental thinking. I always pity them because they ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 ... have to border all these countries and peoples and being
racially degraded by them, because they cannot see we have this race, we STILL have.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Natalie, I totally understand what you feel:( yes they are stealing our history, they are making Greeks, and Romanians Africans:(, they are making Iranians Arabs, pfff
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Indo European is not European.
I just say we have our own race and not the same as those we have to border.
No one is calling Greeks Africans HAHAHAHA
We have our own race and culture
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 and we invented everything, all scienses, that's why they are making Greeks-Romans African, Iranians they are making Arabs, Why? because they want to devide us,
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 because united we would take over the world, we would rule the world, we can u know, we have the intelligence, Indo-Europeans invented everything
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Yes maybe you are right.
All I know the world n´but mostly those nations I mentioned, drink the blood
of the Iranians.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 I totally understand how you feel :( pfff I wish I could help
Best wishes to you!
I have to go now, talt to you later!
bye bye
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 It would be good if all Indo - Europeans, came together,
despite wars and conflicts among within.
But Arabs and Turks, are like this, and which we can learn from also.
They might hate and have wars between themselves, but they never show this to
anyone whose NOT an Arab or Turk or Paki for that matter. So should we be DESPITE ALL.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 It is funny, Iranians always, have discussions with these peoples,
because they harass and force themselves on Iranians.
Now they claim our history and lands.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 And yes gypsies do not look pale as Albanians.
So he was a pure Albanian guy who attack and harass innocent peoples like me
on the streets of this town.
They are Gangs here.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 the Belgian girl got harassed by a moroccon,but she had Albanian boyfriend, her Albanian boyfriend stood up for her,in 10 sec the morrocon guy called 20 other morrocon guys
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 and the Albanian guys got help of 3 other Albanians, so 4 Albanians against 20 Morrocons, I saw it with my own eyes, and all the morrocons had to go with the Ambulance.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 I don't think you have seen any real Albanian so far. We are Dinarics, just like the Yugoslavs, tallest and strongest people in the world.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 For decades, we are World Champions in almost every fighting sports, just google World Champions in Kickboxing, Thai Boxing, Boxing,, they're all Albanians:-)
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 No no, if you go look at the first thing I wrote to Albanians,
was we saw them as kinsmen. But then soo many Albanians, wrote shit
about Iranians for no reaso.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 I'm sorry if some Albanians have offended you, I'm really really sorry. I apologize from the bottom of my heart.
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Remember Albania is and always, will be in a good position after all.
Iran border these wild peoples, who always, racially degrade us for no reason.
When Albanians start out to write
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 ... swear words against Caucasus and Iranian peoples,
then I wonder why they do this. Because I just wrote, we are the same
as long Iranians do not race mix.
I had friends from Albania
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Because calling uncles,cousins,brothers is not ALBANIAN STYLE, I've seen many fights among Albanians and Morrocons here in Belgium, and one fight was about a Belgian girls,
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 Just yesterday when I came from the mall,
the Albanian in the gang if the Turks and some Arabs, harassed me once again.
Arian is an Albanian guy.
If he is acctepted as their own ...
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@DonJeta0007 ... why is he put in the group of the Turks, Arabs and Pakies.
I wonder and I was shocked, because I thought Albanians are Europeans,
but they call them Pakies in Denmark.
Belive me.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 LoL that's the first time I hear. Alban means white,Europeans are All Albos, we're all Albans, we're all white..I doubt it very much Danish people calling Albanians pakis
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 the name of the Belgian king is Albert, a Belgian friend of mine, his surename is Albrechts:-) and he's Germanic, Belgian people in Flanders, they're Germanic:-)
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie85101 Also the hate between Albanians and Eastern Europeans is an imagination only,95% of Eastern and 99% of Western European countries have recognized the Independence of Kosovo
DonJeta0007 1 week ago
@Natalie are you Iranian or turk or Ottomanian? sounds like you would like the albanians to be here only for 100 or 600 year wich is the exact time of the Ottoman occupation of the Balkans, but if you go a bit further you find our National Hero Scanderberg the king who fought the Ottomans and our National Hero. google Eupedia genetics so you can have at least a better sources of those sources that you have that have nothing to do with reality ;-)
xycje 1 week ago
so we owe more to the Roman Empire than whatever trash the Ottomans gave us
xycje 1 week ago
@DonJeta007 I totally agree, if you check the E-v13 in Germany and Britain it coincides with the Roman occupation of those countries in the Roman empire, and that was more than 2000 years ago, so those e-v13 in those counties are faithful history witness of how long the Albanian or Illyrian genes have been around. This totally destroy Natalie85101 mikeymouse theories
xycje 1 week ago
However what we are talking here is that the Illyrians belong to the Indo E-V13 genes. Any decent religion allows people to change it and have free will and free choice, This is what people talk about. looks all middleeast and see how Christians are treat it, no where in the christian world that happens to anyone. Looks at the birth of Christianity in Constatinopla and see if they are allow to worship freely? anyway the point is that we are Byzantium Roman, the two headed eagle
xycje 1 week ago
The bottom line is not to use fallacies that appeal to history without any proper documentation, or fallacies appealing to scientist from kindergarden. anyway no body in europe attack any religion as a matter of fact it is the Christian faith the one that has allowed all races and religions to worship whatever they want. a Christian, a Jew or whatever else can be from any race but the religion does not make the race. However what we are talking here is that the Illyrians belong to
xycje 1 week ago
oh and by the way my credentials are that iam a university of michigan graduate student on eastern european history.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
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@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
to the East and took back Persian wives with them read
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
albanian derives from the illyrian clan of albanoi, and as ptolemy writes the capital of albanopolis. this clan eventually overtook other illyrian clans and became dominant.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
there is alot of evidence to support the illyrian-albanian lineage. 1:language, the albanian language, though unique as an independent indo-european lang, has influences of greek and roman due to its role as colony/province to both civs;the ghegh/tosk divide is approx. to the via egnatia. 2:physical features, like a bridged nose, compare to the greek straight, recorded by the ancient greeks.3:genes, E-V13 originates in Kosovo/n.albania spreading throughout
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@detroitmetro101 Btw. Albania is derived from today's Azerbajan originally
and some of the Azaris also descend from the Albanians.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@xycje haha thank you, someone who knows their stuff unlike that mythuseuropa person, i'm 14 years old and have more logic than him haha, he needs to go read a few books.
elsajelly 2 weeks ago
@elsajelly I think you should not talk soo much Honey.
I know more about history than you since I read and search and talked
to historians, scientists ect.
I have already asked some to come and tell the truth, but they are not there
and can not answer unfortunately.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@elsajelly The educated world would know this.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@elsajelly Now we are talking! you are right, Albania, Kosovo, Constantinopla are the founding countries of the Bizantium Roman Empire as a matter of fact it existed from 0 AD until 1480, it was the longest surviving branch of the Roman Empire. But from that point on the local population were enslave by the Otomans and force to chance their religion and names.
xycje 3 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa there's no link between albanians&iranians;reason lots of albanians have muslim names is cos when OttomanEmpire ruled some balkan countries they enforced islam upon the then orthodox-christian albanians in conclusion albanians had to change their surnames to more islamic ones. plus just cos someone's first name isnt from their country doesnt mean that person isn't from that country e.g.I have a firstname with scandinavian origin but i'm albanian, this doesn't mean i am not albanian
elsajelly 3 weeks ago
if you can google just google the E-V13 halopgroup and you can see by the picture it expands from the balkans out, there are not even E-V13 in Iran, probably in the Balkan War they were brought as slaves to a fight that did not belong to them. Now it is over, the Iranians can go back to Iran. Clasiffy us correctly as being part of Alexander or Roman Empire. if you want to fight your muslims wars fight them in the middle east. the E-V13 gene belong to the Balkans alone!!
xycje 4 weeks ago
@DonJeta I totally agree, Albania is mostly atheist, if we want to be anything by history we are part and builders of the Byzantium Roman Empire. We don't care about middle eastern religions, it has never been part of us. Look at our Symbol the two headed eagle, it is totally Roman. One Head toward Rome the other Towards Constantinopla. We are going to rebuild bizantium again!!!!
xycje 1 month ago
by the way the two headed eagle means: one head looks to Rome the other head to Constantinople. so We are Romans. The Ottomans need to go back to Turkey where they came from.
xycje 1 month ago
Maybe you are Iranian and you would like to be Albanian. if you do you can apply for residence, but you will be still Iranian! ;-) in the mean time we are E-V13 the ones who destroy the Persian Empire
xycje 1 month ago
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@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
to the East and took back Persian wives with them
Just read
Natalie85101 1 month ago
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"was taken by Ottoman Turks as Slaves and Soldiers to the Balkans.
Historians and Scientists have all stated this. " ==> this claim is totally false, the true is Ottomans come to Albania, but the true nature of Albanian are either from the Greek or Roman Empire. And the ones who cooperated to destroy the Persian Empire. you can watch the 300 movie. will be more informative than your facts.
xycje 1 month ago
try google E-V13 the genetic marker of the balkans and you will see that Iranian have nothing to do with it at all
xycje 1 month ago
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@xycje Persians are one of the oldest races in the world, their civilisation was the cradle of the human civilisation. They go back to the Sumerians. They have over ten thousand years of recorded history, no other nation comes close. They are the direct ancestors of Slavic people like Croatians and Serbians and to some extent the great ancestors of Germanic and Spanic people. There was alot of mix breeding when Europeans went
to the East and took back Persian wives with them.
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
there is no genetic connection at all with Iran as you can see on the genetic pool of the balkans google the following genectic image and you can see HgE1b1b1a2.png
xycje 1 month ago
@xycje Yes all Indo - Europeans in general do have the same genetics,
but after all it does not change the historical fact Albanians did come from Iran and
Azerbajan.
Today Albania do not excist at all in Iran or Azerbajan, but Albanians, came or
was taken by Ottoman Turks as Slaves and Soldiers to the Balkans.
Historians and Scientists have all stated this.
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Scientists have traced Albanians to have come from Northern Iran.
Love from Iranians to Albanians.
We see you as Iranian sisters and brothers.
Even though a world racially degrade Iranians.
Love from Iran.
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
@MythusEuropa what?? ahhahahaha....those scientists must have been high on something fucking strong! The only thing we have incommen with iranians is that we are both humans, other than that NOTHING ELSE!! Dont ever try to spread lies!!
RROFT SHQIPERIA DHE DARDHANIA!
albonor 1 month ago
@albonor No NO. That is true. Scientists Worldwide know this.
But IDIOTS LIKE YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS.
Many Nations are practically Iranian or from Persian Lands and has been stated by
Worldwide Scientists and Historians.
Albanians of today comes originally from today's Azerbajan and and if you want to deny
truth than you really cannot.
Albanians are really from Northern Iran originally, but Ottoman Turks, took you as
slaves .
YOU ARE HIGH ON SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU CANNOT TAKE THE TRUTH.
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
@albonor I am telling the truth. Every Historian knows this Worldwide.
I spoke to German, American ect. Historians ect. and they know where
Albanians, come from originally.
If you look on a map of Ancient Persia, something was called ALBANIA in Persia in
ANCIENT TIMES. GO read some HISTORY and try to speak with respect to others
and do not swear in a language others do not understand.
Albanians are half Native Caucasian and half Ilyrians.
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
@albonor Albanians are speaking an Indo - European language and are
only half Indo - European because they are part descended from the Ilyrians.
Albanians was taken by the Ottoman Turks from today's Northern Iran and Azerbajan
to Balkan of today. If you feel your pride is being taken away then be it your own problem, because I am only speaking the truth.
Albanians are not Native Iranians, but because in Persian History
something was called ALBANIA, Scientists has stated ...
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
@MythusEuropa
... Albanians in one time was taken by Turks to Balkan of today and using them
as soildiers.
If an IDIOT with all respect, think he can deny and spread lies like you
and think he knows better than a Scientist or Historian who has been studing
History and Races for yrs. then you are wrong mate.
WORLDWIDE SCIENTISTS HAVE SHOWN YOU TO BE
FROM TODAY'S Northen Iran and Azerbajan.
And btw. both Iranians, Azaris and Armenians are all Indo - Europeans and ...
MythusEuropa 1 month ago
@MythusEuropa what scientists you moron....there are no recorded migration to the western balkans since the slavs in the 5th and 6th century.....turks simply occupied the balkans they did not intermingle with their colonial subjects because they viewed them a less than themselves...just like the british did not intermingle with their subjects, its called colonial purity...albania in the caucusus doesnt have anything to do with shqiperia
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 It is true what MythusEuropa says here about Albanians
my Dear friend.
Go ask yourself from scientists and historians if you guys, do not want
to believe or admit Albanians originally, came from Caucasus areas.
MythusEuropa is simply speaking the truth.
But I think Albanians might hate Caucasians, but it is true Albanians are from
Caucasus areas.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 What? No, we don't hate Caucasians, why are you saying that? We don't hate Caucasians, but it just doesn't make sense.We are speaking a Celto-Italic,Germano-Celtic language, our language is 50% Celtic,40% Germanic,40% Italic-Greek,35% Balto-Slavic, if we are living on the Balkans for only some hundreds of years, if we were brought there by the turks like you are claiming, than how do you explain our Celtic and Germanic roots? This is about the truth, not about hatred.
DonJeta0007 2 weeks ago
@DonJeta0007 Albanians are in Europe.
I know.
But it does not make things or change Albanians, originated from Caucasus.
Scientists have all stated this.
I wish I could tell you about the famous historian here on YT.
He knows all about racial things and history.
His name is RealSarmatians but DO NOT TELL HIM I, TOLD YOU,
BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN HARASSING ME.
Celtics, Germanics and Slavics come from Persians and are of
the Sarmatian, Scythian and Alan Aryan tribes if not Bulgarians.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 I know that Indo-Europeans share the same origins, so I know that we are kinsmen, but you need to understand we have problems on the Balkans because of the different territories, Serbs claim our territories, they say that we are the latest comers on the Balkans and that we were brought here by the Turks and that our territory is theirs, that's why we had all those wars on the Balkans.
DonJeta0007 2 weeks ago
@DonJeta0007 I think you need to stop talking about other peoples and generalize
and say they all look the same because Albanians are more religious than
those so called Middle Eastern people.
First of all Americans and Jews made this so called
Middle East and seceondly in Azerbajan and Iran thed, do not believe in Islam.
The fact is Albanians come from Caucasus.
In Iran as far I know and not Azerbajan the regime is only religious and is
in fact made 1.4000 yrs. when Islam, invaded.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 Wait, I was talking about Arabs, I wasn't talking about Iranian, Azerbaijan people, or any other Caucasian people, I was talking about Middle Eastern people, such as Jews, Arabs. They have the same traditions and lifestyle, same religion, only different name of prophet, they did the same evil practices, imposing their religions to us, Indo-Europeans, not only Europeans, I was not trying to offent Iranians or Azerbaijan people..
DonJeta0007 2 weeks ago
@DonJeta0007 Many people even in Turkey, Iran and Azerbajan are more
openminded than even Americans and West Europeans to let you know.
I have seen people from all Asia and to tell you the truth they, were less religious
and more open minded.
The Media wants to portray these peoples as non humans because of poitics
and no one is trying to impose Islam on Europe.
They already wants to steal ancient histories but if it is others than it is bad.
No offence
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@DonJeta0007 Shia is an Iranian made Islam against Islam and Arabs themselves
to stop Arabs and Islam.
It seem CNN, BBC and FOX news have made you to believe in
the lies about Caucasus and Iran.
Many even hate Islam and you generalize and think Albanians and Bosnians,
cannot be more religious because of the location.
It is a fact Turks, brought Albanians from Caucasus and I just say what
Scientists have stated.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@DonJeta0007 The wars in Balkan was also due to Islam aswell because
they hated Muslims.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 war inbalkans was because of power, and the serbs wanting to maintain control. there were three major wars in the balkans in the 90s, in croatia, in bosnia, and in kosovo...what was the common denominator in all three, the serbian incursion by serb nationalists, you have no fuckin idea what your talking about
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 Listen my Dear everyone knows where Albanians originated just some HUNDRED YRS. AGO, NOT 4.000 YRS. AGO.
IDIOT I AM TALKING ABOUT HOW TURKS, BROUGHT U TO BALKANS SOME
HUNDRED YRS. AGO.
Albanians are half Native Caucasian and half Ilyrians and they came later to the Balkans.
I am not talking about some 4.000 yrs. ago idiot jerk, I am talking how
Albanians descend from Azerbajan some hundred yrs. ago.
I told u to go ask the famous historian if u do not want to admit.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
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detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 I am saying u r NATIVE CAUCASIAN NOT CAUCASIAN.
NATIVE CAUCASIAN IS NOT INDO - EUROPEAN.
CLOWN READ MY COMMENTS FULLY AND THAN TALK.
Re - read my comments before talking.
Georgians for instance are a Native Caucasian people, which means they are
a NON - INDO - EUROPEAN PEOPLE.
So are Albanians ORIGINALLY.
All Indo - Europeans come from either the Caucasus or today's Ukraine and spread
to Asia and Europe. But Native Caucasians are non Indo European.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 give me the name of these so called historians...stop making up shit or amplifying opinion give scientific names...
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
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detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 For instance people like Celtics, Germanics and Slavic
are made up by the Iranian Sarmatian, Scythian and Alans which
lived in Caucasuas, Ukraine, Russia, West Siberia, Central Asia and even Poland.
I know what I talk about if ur want go ask some historians about this
here on YT.
Remember not to mention me, because I am being harassed by the person.
But I gave the username here, so go ask this username called realsarmatians.
He is a historian here on YT.
He knows.
Natalie85101 2 weeks ago
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detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@Natalie85101 i dont care what some user name says, you are wrong, and here are some people to back my claim up...John Van Antwerp Fine, Mircea Eliade, Charles J. Adams,
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 HAHAHAHAHA Yeah sure.
The fact is Albania was originally the name in Azerbajan and not the Balkans.
Even historians here on YT would agree with me whether U like it or NOT.
Albanians were brought to Balkan by the Ottoman Turks some hundred yrs. ago
and NOT SOME SO CALLED 4.000 yrs. ago.
Facts are facts and cannot be changed.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa you are a fuckin moron... i said 40,000 yrs ago when europe itself was settled not 4000yrs....again provide sources for your claim or shut the fuck up.....your facts are opionions, your opinions are shit.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 Fucking JERK, read what the fuck I write and than talk
for Christ sake.
I am not the kind who goes around the YT staff, saying my opinion.
Facts are facts and Albanian was the name in Azerbajan, not Balkan.
The name Albania is from Caucasua, but Albanians mixed with Ilyrians
and now are half Ilyrians and half Native Cacasian.
Moron go ask if U do not want to hear the truth or believe in what I say.
I am not the kind to talk my ASS of without it's historically true
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa you have no fuckin backup for your claims, you fuckin moron. i know there was a caucasion albania, but it does not have anything to do with albanians/illyrians, its just a name to describe geography, ie alb= mountains.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 Idiot why thy the FUCK WOULD THERE BE A ALBANIA
IN CAUCASUS IF IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALBANIA AS A COUNTRY TODAY
HA.
Moron go fucking ask if U do not want to believe me.
Go ask
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa you are telling me about my own ethnicity and identity and about my own country of origin, which ive devoted my life to study, are you fucking kidding me. you fuckin douche bag...ive given you at least 5 sources so far, you have given me none....albania is what others call us, like what we call germans, rather then deutsche volk...these are names given by ousiders like the greeks, romans, etc.....we call ourselves shqiptar.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 HAHAHAHAHA Yeah sure.
The fact is he was a Mongolian and massraped and killed
the Iranian Aryan people in all Central Asia to Bulgaria back in the 11. th. Century to
15. th. Century.
Albanians came and were brought to the Balkans in some hundred yrs. ago
by Ottoman Turks and that is what is and no fucking opinion or claims for that matter.
I am talking about historical facts which happened back then.
Go ask RealSarmatian, but do not tell him I, told U.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa who the fuck is realsarmatian, some fuckin youtube username, thats you fucking source...wow you could be a lawyer...
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 Idiot he is said to be one of the most famous historians
here on YT. He is educated from a University and one of the most famous.
So just do not talk. Everyone goes to him and ask about racial history and migration
and race, but do not tell I told U, because he harass me all over YT.
And no I am no Lawyer I, was a Medical student once.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa "...there is no recorded settlement migration into the western balkans, by other groups, than, and listed, slavic peoples, settling respectively in the 5th,6th"(The Albanians, Henry Skene, Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 I would be glad if I also could provide such resources
Too bad I am bad at links, but I know I speak out truth.
Go ask Realarmatians, an educated historian, but who harass me, so do not tell him
I said it otherwise he, will be harassing me all over YT again like he has done
the last one year. But he is a famous well educated historian and most people, know him and ask
everything about race and history and migration.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
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@detroitmetro101 I would be glad if I also could provide such resources
Too bad I am bad at links, but I know I speak out truth.
Go ask Realarmatians, an educated historian, but who harass me, so do not tell him
I said it otherwise he, will be harassing me all over YT again like he has done
the last one year. But he is a famous well educated historian and most people, know him and ask
everything about race and history and migration.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@detroitmetro101 Man U bash me for not knowing and than insult me to
say I could be a Lawer, and then U do not even dare to go and ask
when proves provided to U about famous well educated historians.
He knows and if one also look on an Ancient map, one will see how Albania
is located in the heart if Caucasus.
Some Azaris and Iranians are also descended from the Albanians there
before U were brought there by the Ottoman Turks.
I am not saying lies and something bad, just the truth.
MythusEuropa 2 weeks ago
@MythusEuropa MY FUCKING GOD, ALBANIA IN THE CAUCUSUS, WHICH IM VERY WELL AWARE OF, ITS NOT THE FIRST TIME IVE HEARD OF IT, DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALBANIA/N POEPLES IN THE WESTERN BALKANS.
detroitmetro101 2 weeks ago