Nobody ever looks good against Hopkins. Calzaghe was no exception. But Hopkins just didn't do anywhere near enough to win. He boxed well for the first four rounds and faded awfully down the stretch.
calzaghe is the best so shut up!!how many times did joe loose????Twats!!!like the way rocky marciano would of punched the head off ali....whites rule the heavey weight game!!!! VITALI AND VWALD!!!!!!
@pearcemark2 what fight you watching calzaghe landed most shots ever land on Hopkins he landed more than Hopkins he was the aggressor all night and all Hopkins did is counter and even then most of them didn't hit plus how was calzaghe face bloody haha he had one bruise on he's nose which was likely headbutt then Hopkins tried to make excuses in the fight to get some air you can not give it to B Hop when he landed less no combos just one hit then ran sat back whole fight dumbass
@daveonfire2 Stop regurgitating rhetoric. He didn't land the most shots. He threw ILLEGAL slaps that do not score under the rules of boxing. The grand majority of them missed and were blocked. He landed less than 10% of what he threw. What he did land was rarely clean and had absolutely no effect.
At the end of the fight, Hopkins doesn't have a scratch on him. His face is spotless. Calzaghe's face showed that he was in a fight.
@pearcemark2 you have your opinion i have mine i still think calazaghe may not be biggest puncher or quickest but he came to fight Hopkins did not in the end calazaghe clear winner in my eyes
@daveonfire2 Luckily for Hopkins, you don't have to "come to fight" to win. You just have to win more rounds. And he won 6 rounds with a knockdown, clearly beating Calzaghe.
@pearcemark2 your wrong calazaghe won more rounds than Hopkins and knockdown means nothing anyone can be knocked down its about responding and calazaghe did why winning most of the rounds after
@pearcemark2 i cant see how you gave Hopkins more rounds than calazaghe say if it was a tie who would you give it to either the aggressor or the fighter who ran whole fight and moaned i know who i would
'Bernard Hopkins lost to white boy Joe Calzaghe on Saturday, April 19, 2008 at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada by a 12-round split decision. The score card for Hopkins-Calzaghe read 114-113 Hopkins, 115-112 Calzaghe and 116-111 Calzaghe. Harold Lederman, HBO's unofficial official scored it 116-111 Calzaghe. CompuBox stats showed Hopkins landing 127 of 468 (27&) while Calzaghe landed 232 out of 707 punches (33&)'.
@opera123able Compubox is a joke, especially in that fight, and a split decision against a 43 year old man with a thyroid condition is never a win
It's funny how people think Compubox matters. Like it's some scientific robotic infallible system.
You know what compubox is? A 70 year old man watches the fight and hits a button every time he THINKS someone lands a punch. Nobody makes more mistakes than 70 year old men.
They mistook Joe's blocked slaps for landed blows.
@pearcemark2 No thats wrong, it not only shows punches landed but also punches thrown. Whats wrong with being 70 years old?
What comments do you have to make about the fact that Harold Lederman, himself a respected judge and completley impartial in every fight I've seen him score for HBO, scored it 116-111 for Calzaghe?
The one judge only gave it to Hopkins by 1 single point, but she gave the 5th,6th and 10th for Hopkins, whilst the others gave them for Calzaghe, so she cocked up those rounds
@opera123able Harold Lederman is known for having his head up his ass. Most of the time the commentators, who also have their heads up their ass, are blatantly disagreeing with his assessment. Lederman and Merchant are constantly nipping at each other like little bitches.
Hopkins swept the first 4 with a 10-8 in the first
Calzaghe sweeps 5, 6, 7
B-Hop 8, Calzaghe 9, Hopkins 10, Calzaghe 11 and 12
114-113 B-Hop via clean effective accurate punching
@pearcemark2 114-113 to Bhop is not a very convincing win anyway, so you cant complain too much really.
Harold Lederman is a respected judge, so is Chuck Giampa and so is Ted Gizma - have they all got their heads up their ass then just cos you dont agree with them. They are all from the US also - if they had all been from the UK you would be saying they were biased for their own fighter, but you cant even say that.
Watch Lewis v Holyfield 1st fight for a real boxing scoring travesty
@opera123able "respected judge" and Larry Merchant is a "respected commentator" yet ALL you see is fighters disgusted at him for being a dumb cunt
Don't start with that judging bullshit, UK fighters get as many favors in the US as the UK. Look at Froch/Ward, two ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS 115-113 scores from the US judges.
How many gift decisions did Hatton get? Like, 2 out of his 4 or 5 fights in the US?
Get with it. Joe got exposed as being a class below.
@pearcemark2 Hang on a minute, how can you say that Joe was 'a class below' when at the same time you've given him 6 rounds against Hopkins??!! THat makes no sense, as your saying that he has won 50% of the rounds, but still a class below - makes not sense.
I gave Joe 7 rounds (only 1 more than you), I gave 3 to Hopkins (one at 10-8) and I scored 2 others as even. So overall I had it 116-113 for Calzaghe. I agree that 116-111 is a bit wide, but Joe definatley deserved to win by at least 114-113
@opera123able He got 6 rounds against a 43 year old B-Hop based solely on his inactivity. Joe won rounds by default. He looked HORRIBLE doing it. He wasn't landing anything meaningful. 90% of his offense consisted of the most awkward sloppy desperate slap-flailing I've ever seen in a boxing ring.
It was truly embarassing. And since that's the biggest opponent of his career, name wise and skill wise, at 43 years old, it's safe to conclude Joe was nothing more than a B fighter
@pearcemark2 THe fact is that Joe WON AT LEAST 6 ROUNDS - PERIOD. If B-Hop had outclassed Joe he would not have lost as many as 6.
At 44 years old B-Hop beat 27 year old Kelly Pavlik with ease, so clearly age has not affected B-Hop like it does most at that level.
B class fighters do not defend WBO titles for 11 years, they dont unify all the belts and hold WBO, IBG, WBC, WBA & Ring Magazine and then step up a weight and win Ring magazine at that weight.
@opera123able WBOgus titles aren't real. Joe defended them against C and D level comeptition for 11 years.
Bronko Sobot, Miguel Angel Jiminez, Omar Sheika, Evans Ashira, Kabary Salem, Tocker Pudwill, WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE??? The answer: Nowhere near top fighters.
He had 2 unification fights, one against a B fighter coming off shoulder surgery and the other against a 1 handed fighter who really doesn't have any superbly outstanding qualities.
I didn't say he beat someone, I said he faced a top guy within 2 years. Eubank was still mentally scarred from the Watson fight agasint Collins, and afraid of doing the same to someone else.
Eubank may not have been fully prepared, but Calzaghe beat him so very convincingly that he definatley would have won even if Eubank was fully prepared. I know you dont pay any attention to judges scorecards (?), but the judges scored it: 116-111, 118-110 & 118-109. - Pretty unanimous.
@opera123able By that logic, Berbick beats prime Ali because he stomped him when they fought. Joke.
Byron Mitchell was nobody, he was a placeholder. Woodhall was past it just like Eubank, and he didn't beat Reid. Reid kicked his ass, Calzaghe got a gift split decision and pussyboy Joe ducked him for a rematch, just like he did Hopkins.
@pearcemark2 Fighters make belts, not the other way round. Calzaghe completley unified all the supermiddleweight belts in brilliant style with huge points victories against Lacy and more the more formidable Kessler. He beat those guys with ease, and he was the WBO champ, so Calzaghe actually raised the profile of the WBO Belt, not what you are trying to suggest (i.e. the WBO lowered Calzaghe)
He definatley did enough to beat a decent Bernard Hopkins despite what you or anyone else on here says.
@opera123able It took Calzaghe 9 years before he even considered a unification fight. He spent the majority of his career in joke fights against nobodies because he was a scared sissy. Refused to go to Germany to fight Ottke, but he was happy to go there to fight bum Mario Veit. Scared bitch.
No you yanks dodged him for that long. He always said he was scared of flying, what was your guys excuse. As ive said before a disgruntled yank can't handle the truth. You say he was scared but your men never stepped in front of him, never crossed the pond never wanted to lose. Hopkins was "over the hill" "past him prime" until he beat pavlik. You blow all the bubbles you want can't change the facts he retired unbeaten.
First of all, scared of flying is a bullshit excuse when his own promoters were like "He'd tell me he's scared to fly to fight, then he'd hop on a plane to go vacation". Calzaghe is a dick tucking pussy who pulled out of and avoided big fights time after time.
Second, why would the top P4P fighters on the planet travel to some eurobum's country for less money to get fucked by referees and judges? Not how it works. You come to them.
@headnogood1 Retiring unbeaten means that you didn't fight the best at their best. Calzaghe's record is ungodly weak. You honestly think B-Hop wouldn't retire undefeated fighting bums like Branko Sobot, Omar Sheika, Miguel Angel Jiminez, Evans Ashira, Kabary Salem, Tocker Pudwill, Mario Veit, etc? Don't make me laugh.
Joe is a sheltered fraud and the only reason you brits cling to him is because you have NOTHING so anyone who comes along who's almost good, you hop on their nuts
You know im right thats why your still blowing bubbles. It's you yanks who "hop on their nuts". I asked you what your guys excuses are?, you gave me nothing. How many crossed the pond and lost? All of them. You think the champ travels, so how many of your champs came to get him. Doh. You hate the fact that A man from a country of 3 million (Wales) stopped any of you yanks from being the outright champ for 10 years, the challenger has to beat the champ and none did FACT.
@headnogood1 Bro, you're a pathetic delusional little bitch grasping at straws.
I get it. If I was from a pathetic shithole and some homo soccer player popped up who was half decent, I would gobble his nuts and pretend he's the greatest thing that ever hit a soccer field
But from the perspective of a country that's produced so many greats, so many epic talents that can never be matched, I look down and pity sad little idiots like you who have to cling to your B class bums.
"If I was from a pathetic shithole and some homo soccer player popped up who was half decent, I would gobble his nuts and pretend he's the greatest thing that ever hit a soccer field". Dude wake up you live in America and thats what you do every day.
We actually stole it from the native americans. We just called them indians because we were searching India, but they were like "what the fuck we're not indians" and we were like "yes huh, shut up injun" and called them indians because we're assholes.
But that's beside the point. The point is, Joe's technique is garbage. He fights sloppy, wreckless, and desperate. No boxing coach would ever advise a person to stand square and slap back and forth with your palms.
@headnogood1 For fuck's sake, the guy doesn't even punch. He literally slaps like a girl.
In boxing you are not allowed to strike with the palm. It's not a legal blow. Slapping is an illegal technique.
Your hero, the guy you worship and think is the greatest thing you've ever seen just because he was shit out of a cunt near the same place you were shit out of a cunt, slaps like a bitch.
You literally worship a boxer who can't throw a punch.
Ha Ha, what are you on about your american referee and judges missed this. Or even better he beat your idols RJJ and B-hop by slapping them like girls. Ha Ha Ha. Type something else I could not put you down as well as you do your self. Sometimes its better to say nothing and look cool than to speak and remove all doubt!. Baby boy.
@headnogood1 He beat a shot old 5%-of-his-prime Roy Jones.
Joe wrote in his own biography "Jones is washed up, Tarver only beat Roy because he's past it. Neither one is worth fighting.", but he GLADLY fought Roy the first chance he got.
Yet here's what Joe said in 2003: "I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."
If you are looking for quotes heres two. “For me Joe is the best pound for pound fighter in the world." RJJ before the fight. " I never fought him in my prime because I never wanted to risk the title" RJJ after the fight. Does this make it Pussyboy Joe and Roy?. You dont seem to get it every time one of you yanks says he was scared to get your idols, us Welsh ask why they never came to get him. p.s Calzaghe got 10 million to slap RJJ around, nice work if you ask me.
@headnogood1 Roy is a promoter, he'll say anything to hype a fight and make himself look good.
Why on earth would the P4P #1 fighter on the planet travel to some nowhere country to fight a nobody and risk getting robbed on points, like he did in the olympics when he went to Korea?
If you want to test yourself and fight the best, you come to america and fight them. Joe was scared.
"I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."
you bubbleblowing troll you are so far up your idols arsehole. You cant see the truth. Every little soundbite you twist, fact you ignore and everything has an excuse for you. Bet you wish you are marty mcfly and could travel back and change the past, but you can't. So I will stick with the facts 46-0 retired unbeaten after beating everyone who had the balls to stand in front of him ( which eventually your idols did and got slapped remember) troll away fool.
Sven Ottke technically retired undefeated, is he your hero too? HE BEAT EVERYONE IN FRONT OF HIM DURRRR BEST EVER
Harry Simon, he's undefeated too. He must be better than Joe right? After all, he never had a split decision against a 43 year old that, every time it's mentioned in a news article, is referred to as "contentious" and "razor thin", AKA not a legit win.
calzaghe was all over hopkins. Hopkins fought a negative fight and just didnt want to push the pace so calzaghe had to be the man to try and make it interesting but even then Bernard Hopkins just never moved forward and was outpunched by a mile.
Hopkins was a sore loser. Simple. It was a pretty shit fight, Hopkins kept holiding and just anti-boxed. All be did was make it difficult and Joe's right, he just didn't fight his best. I was an off night and he still won fair and square.
@MrBbuds mclellan would have knocked him out in the first couple of rounds. Jones would have whiped the floor with him and watson also had a good chance beating him...Calzaghe didn't fight many great fights or great fighters in there prime...
@1978utreg Absolute nonsense - Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn have both fullly acknowledged that Joe Calzaghe was better than they were, and Benn beat Mclellan and Eubank beat Watson. - Also Joe was only 25 and had fought no one when he gave a 31 year old, seasoned pro Chris Eubank a boxing lesson. Eubank did not use any excuses and knew he was beaton by a superior boxer.
The one regret about Calzaghe is that he didn't fight Roy Jones Jr in 2001, when they were both at their peaks.
@opera123able have you ever seen benn-mclellan and eubank-watson fights? dont think so otherwise you wouldnt post such a stupid comment...Eubank wasnt the same after the tragedy against Watson...learn about the history of the fights instead of statistics....
@1978utreg I know about the history and I have seen all the Eubank v Watson & Benn & Benn v Mclellan etc. I have also seen Eubank lose 5 times, Benn lose 5 times (twice when at his peak) They were great fighters, but Eubank and Benn have both said themselves that Joe Calzaghe was better than both of them ever were - FACT.
Thats not a statistic thats just what they said.
When Eubank fought Calzaghe he was only 31 years old!!!! -Calzaghe was 35 when he totally outclassed a 28 year Kessler.
@opera123able Eubank wasnt the same fighter after the watson fight everybody knows that... i know he was 31 but he had fought a lot of hard fights before the match against calzaghe so age doesnt tell the whole story about someones prime
@opera123able Eubank hadn't beaten a top opponent in over 3 years, had retired after the second Collins loss, came back a year later at 177 pounds, fought twice at that weight, and on 1 week's notice he drained himself back down to 168 to fight Joe. Chris proceeded to lose his next 2 fights and retire, as he was clearly past his best.
Do you also say Trevor Berbick gave Ali a boxing lesson? That he was beaten by a superior boxer?
@pearcemark2 Steve Collins was a top opponant and he fought him 2 years before Joe, not 3.
Also he had 7 months to prepare for Calzaghe not 1 weel you liar.
How the hell can you even begin the try and compare 31 year old Eubank with all his faculties and in good shape fighting 25 year old Calzaghe, to 27 year old Berbick beating a 40 year old, battle weary Muhamed Ali who was in the early stages of Parkinson's?
I dont know how to answer that, your just too dumb.
@opera123able He didn't beat Collins. He got beat, twice, and looked like a shell of his old self in the second fight. Hence, didn't beat a top opponent for over 3 years and was past it. As evidenced by him taking a year off before coming back at a higher weight class.
Calzaghe was scheduled to face Collins. Collins retired instead. Eubank, who was prepared for a fight at 177 pounds against a right handed fighter, filled in on a weeks notice to face Calzaghe at 168 pounds.
I get the impression you dont like Calzaghe and dont respect him.
You've mentioned some B class opponants he fought, but he also TKO'd (in 2 rounds) former two time WBA World Champ Byron Mitchell in 2003, he TKO'd former WBC Champ RIchie Woodhall in 2000, and he also defeated former WBC Champ Robin Reid in 1999.
It is a big regret that Calzaghe didn't get to fight Roy Jones Junior in 2001, when Jones was seen as this invincible superhero. Roy Jones fought Clinton Woods that year
calzaghe, was one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, he got nocked down yes but he was hardly hurt lol, hopkins might have rocked him with a couple of punches, but its boxing, if you land punches, you score points, he landed the most hopkins has ever been hit with, nuf said lol
Calzaghe beat Hopkins in a close fight. Joe landed more punches and Hopkins looked worn down and frustrated. It was close but Calzaghe got the nod on American soil. All you JC haters should give up trying to discredit a Boxing legend.
his a fuckin fake, and a cheat benard whooped his ass, he had fights with retired boxers, fuk him he is a disgrace to boxing, after all it is a whit world
the worst boxer in the world what a joke if i had a pound for every slap joe has thrown i would be the richest man on the planet, hopkins was robbed and jones didnt care lol joe you really think your the champ get real, ive boxed half my life and ive never seen so much shit hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hat a joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke poor
another thought - JC is probably nuhappy because he had to resort to cheating A LOT in this fight to win. Hes an honourable fighter and it wasnt his style, but he had to do it to start winning rounds against B-Hop.
I used to rate JC high but when I saw him getting taken apart by someone with real boxing ability (Hopkins) I lost that view. Hes a great Euorpean/British fighter but not a great World champion.
to be fair JC won the fight using his massive fitness advantage over a grandfather, not as a boxer. JC is lucky he ducked fighters like Bernard in their prime or he would have half a dozen defeats by now.
Bernard made Joe look like a British champion rather than a World title holder, and only lost because he gassed out in later rounds - otherwise it would have been a one sided bout in Hopkins favour all the way through instead of just the first five rounds.
to be fair JC won the fight using his massive fitness advantage over a grandfather, not as a boxer. JC is lucky he ducked fighters like Bernard in their prime or he would have half a dozen defeats by now.
Bernard made Joe look like a British champion rather than a World title holder, and only lost because he gassed out in later rounds - otherwise it would have been a one sided bout in Hopkins favour all the way through instead of just the first five rounds.
I'm a semi. Pro boxer my self. In all fairness who landed more punches?? Calzaghe by the cards you div. So that makes that boxer the winner. if it is scored properly. It wasn't a convincing win cause of clash of styles!!!! Also the judges were all American and it was in the Hopkins back yard, normally when a White person or Englishman fights in America they have to knock the yank out to win the fight!! !!
Have a look at my last fight on you tube then tell me that I don't know jack shit. Kai xx
@Kaixxxtaylor then why did all major sports companys scored the fight for hopkins as the winner along with boxers such as mike tyson and carl froch you know jack shit about boxing freddie roach said hopkins won cause of the more clean and heavier shots calzaghe is a slap boxing bitch
@Kaixxxtaylor and also look at calzaghes face before the cards were read he had that look like he knew he lost usually when he thinks hes won hes all walking around and shit and this one his head was down looked like a sad little puppy
@shakeyjake151 lol joe got his ass rocked i dont know what fight you saw but he got beat down he was slapping and getting smashed by real shots hopkins face was perfect at the end of that fight joe was beat up joe the bum
@emptycowful Joe won , are you a lil bit butthurt maybe : (
Hopkins made it a boring as fuck fight at least calzaghe tried to make it exciting , do you seriously think Hopkins put on a great performance? LOL End of the day Joe was undefeated , everyone he fought wanted to knock him out , none of them did.
@emptycowful sorry, are you a pro boxing judge? If not, no one cares about your view. especially when there is plenty more like you who thought Joe won.
Hopkins got ROBBED! Calzaghe's own father was telling him before the 12th round he had to knock Hopkins out to win. British fan's stop being biased towards Calzaghe. I respect British fighters like Lennox Lewis, but Calzaghe is a plain liar. Headbutts? How low could he go, he got outclassed thats why he ducked a Hopkins rematch, British fans, ask yourself why would he do that, if he thought he clearly won the first fight?
i hate how they say british boxser (im welsh) instead of welsh boxser if he had lostd they would say welsh boxser but because he won the say british boxser and when an english boxser wins they say english boxser not british
Whether or not you think Hopkins should have won; the fact is "B-Hop" is the kind of guy everyone wants to see get mauled by Calzaghe; the guy's a racist trash talking wanker. Big Joe FTW.
TO ALL YOU WHO THINK CALSLAPPY BEAT BERNARD HOPKINS, YOU EITHER DUMB OR YOU DIDNT WATCH THE FIGHT, "A BOXING MATCH IS SCORED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO LANDS THE MOST CLEAN AND EFFECTIVE PUNCHES" NOT SLAPPING AND FLAILING AROUND LIKE A LITTLE BITCH, IT WAS FIXED TO SET UP A ROY JONES FIGHT, PEOPLE WHO THINK CALSLAPPY WON CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE SWEET SCIENCE...btw im British and white.
@Nathan2345678 Nobody cares who you are, what color you are or how much you like to use ALL CAPS. Joe has a perfect record and he absolutely embarassed Bernard Hopkins. The score card may have told one story but what we saw was a poor guy get clowned by a skinny welchman. Remember when he turned Bhop around and wiggled his hips behind him to make him his bitch? An American black man got the ultimate disrespect in the ring delivered by a little white boy. Sorry bro, I saw the fight.
@hatfisc To the naked eye it appears that way yes, HBO do a very good job at lying to the public, this whole fight was fixed to set up a Big money fight with Roy jones jr, if you watch in slo motion Joe Calslappy got schooled, watch the Joe Calzaghe deception... Joe's a good fighter but certainly nothing more than that, just because hes undefeated doesn't mean shit, you cannot give him credit for Hopkins or Jones, any true boxing fan would know the sweet science is a corrupt sport.
@Nathan2345678 Interesting, however, how can you say the fight was "fixed" then say Joe got schooled? Which is it? You said it "would appear" that bhop got schooled but then say Joe actually was the one that got schooled but the fight was fixed to that what our eyes actually saw was the outcome of the fight? That sounds like an over complication of the actual facts. Which are: It appeard Bhop got schooled(because he did) Joe won (which he did) while you deny facts(which you are.)
@hatfisc What the fuck are you on about?... i never said Bhop got schooled, Bhop schooled Joe Calslappy, the fight was fixed so therefore the judges and the guys at HBO were paid off the tip it in Joe Calslappys favor, want another recent example?... how about Paul williams vs Lara, how about Lacus Matthysse vs Devon Alexander it goes on and on... Boxing is corrupt, and Bhop landed the more clean and effective punches, while joe was slapping and flailing around like bitch.
@Nathan2345678 You admitted that to "the naked eye" it would appear that Bhop got schooled. That's an englishmans way of not being honest with himself or another boxing fan(me.) You must be thinking that powerful punches are the only ones that score points. Joe couldn't knock Bhop out or vice versa. Joe won on points, style and endurance. I don't know what I was supposed to see beyond the "naked eye" besides what constitues a boxing match. I think you're just an MMA fan.
@hatfisc God your a retard, Joe is a con man, watch "The Joe Calzaghe deception" to save me the time trying to explain to your gullible ass, P.S i dont watch MMA.
@Nathan2345678 That's "you are" a retard or "you're" a retard. Remember that the next time you insult someone else's intelligence. "You're" actually telling me to watch some film made by a Calzaghe hater? I'm sure you will or "you'll" also buy everything in Michael Moore's documentaries. The fact that such a fim has been made about a boxer should throw you the first clue of the absurdity of the concept. The guy is a legend for his endurance and determination.
@hatfisc Dude this is the internet i'm not writing a noval, so get that fucking pole out your ass, and its not a film by some Calzaghe "hater"... here's an idea why dont you just go watch it a form your own fucking opinion, (The Joe Calzaghe Deception) is what its called, go watch it ALL then come back and tell me Bhop didnt win the fight... dont be a sheep.
bit angry chap! the product of unfulfilled expectations. i suppose bhop never loses; he's just that good? you can always discern the strategy of the liar, as they're the ones accusing another of the very thing that they are doing. bhop is a genius at deception, and calzaghe is just a better fighter - no deceptive tactics required!
@adh0522 No i'm not angry i just used capslock to get peoples attention, anyway watch the Joe Calzaghe Deception here on youtube, Joe is a fraud and a conman, and you all got conned.
I dont think Joe Calzaghes the problem here rathert a 46yr Hopkins can still be competitive in his division . Thats why everyones watching UFC and MMA Boxings dying.
Hopkins fought dirty. It was just anti-boxing. Hopkins is a cool guy but and he's a smart/dirty fighter and it's true Calzaghe didn't really perform in the fight but he's a much much better boxer than Hopkins and he just about won it, even though he didn't perform.
fuck all the Calzaghe haters who bum Hopkins, Calzaghe won. HE was the agressor and he landed far more punches, therefore he was the better fighter. End of Story.
@davethamaster if you're in a ring with someone who is advancing all the time and you're retreating all the time,who is outworking you in volume and pressure all night,how the fuck can you say you won!Hopkins didnt win shit!!
@onlyjoetee so your saying all of those countershots that hopkins had on joe calzaghe, slipping, bobbing and weaving almost all of calzaghe's punches, calzaghe hitting low blows and hitting him in the back of the head, that calzaghe won that fair? U JUST MADE URSELF A DUMBASS
@pimpontherun No Sir,if you're in a fight,and the other man is stepping forward while you're stepping back,is applying more pressure to you than you are to him,is outworking you in volume,then HE IS WINNING,simple as that!!plus Hopkins is a cheat,he has articles in boxing magazines about how to cheat!pretending he's hurt when he's not,so he can rest,going in with his head all the time,trapping opponents hand on refs blindside!if you think this will win you points WRONG,judges see it!!
@onlyjoetee calzghe was just walking getting hit with hopkins left hook and his counter right cross hopkins was circling him because hes just walking up to him trying to throw a combination and missing. Even Carl Froch, and Freddie Roach said Bernard won the fight so saying hes a cheat so you are saying hopkins won four world titles and a former middlewieght champion, AND defending his middlewieght title 20 times and number 10 of the pound 4 pound boxer in the world is a cheat? I dont think so.
@onlyjoetee Remember Calzaghe only fought bums in europe and some of them he should of lost and might of fought Roy Jones but Jones was way out of his prime and if Roy jones was in his prime he would of stopped Calzaghe early in the fight.
@pimpontherun dont gimme that bullshit,Calzaghe fought and beat people that Roy Jones ducked,like Chris Eubank,Dont gimme no prime shit either Roy was 36 Joe was 33 when they fought,so fuck that arguement!The tactics that Calzaghe used to beat Roy Jones was exactly the same as everyone else who beat Roy Jones.Get him to the ropes,deny him space and time,thats all!!
Calzaghe lost this fight, and he knows it. That's why he REFUSED to give Hopkins a rematch. Calzaghe was throwing slapping punches, and missing. Hopkins threw the most effective punches. If you don't believe it, there's a replay of the fight with commentary. I believed Calzaghe had won until I saw the replay. Incredible. A robbery!!
I watched the fight again, but with slow-mo playback. Calzaghe was throwing girl slapping punches and missing, and Hopkins was throwing the more effective punches. the score should have been 115 - 112 Hopkins. Secondly, Calzaghe knew it, and refused to give Hopkins a rematch, retiring instead. Hopkins vowed he'd would have knocked him out. I think Calzaghe KNOWS who won that fight. He's a chicken. Now if you don't believe me, look at the evidence yourself.
Stop saying that because I think the world is round (due to evidence which you've not been privy to) that I'm delusional. Well you're an ignorant ass. Go here and see for yourself: THE JOE CALZAGHE DECEPTION on youtube. And don't waste my time writing me UNTIL you see it. Fact it, I'd assumed Calzaghe had won until I saw it, then I was like, "Damn, Hopkins got robbed." Welcome to reality pal. LOL!!
@Nonpeon The ONLY thing i hate about boxing,is the excuses!There is ALWAYS some fucking excuse!we all have fighters we like,but when they get beat,JUST ACCEPT IT!!Dont come up with no fucking bullshit excuses because it makes you look small petty and stupid.Sometimes its the other guys turn to win,sometimes he just has your number or whatever!Bernard Hopkins was soundly beaten and bested over 12 rnds by Joe Calzaghe,THATS ALL!Accept it,live with it and fuck off!!
So are you stupidly trying to claim that bad decisions DON'T happen in boxing? LOL!! Let's start there and continue. Secondly, you haven't even watched the evidence. Go to school son and get some knowledge. Calzaghe is a chicken, and HE knows it.
@Nonpeon What bad decision?3 judges unanimously,ALL commentators AND compubox ALL showed Calzaghe winning CLEARLY!!Like i said,we all have fighters we like,when the get beat,just accept it,dont come up with stupid fucking bullshit crybaby excuses that the fighter himself would be embarrased to make!!it just makes you look stupid,petty,small,desperate,childish,ignorant,delusional!Bernard Hopkins was soundly beaten thats all.He was still good enough to win a tilte yrs later,but not on that day!END
Ooops, did you watch the fight you boob? LOL!! It was a split decision. What a moron!! Secondly, watch The Joe Calzaghe Deception on youtube, and eat your words. It's like I'm arguing math, and you havent' studied it yet. Get a clue and hit me back with an apology. Can't wait. LOL!!
@Nonpeon you're a weak,spineless,childish,pathetic,cowardly,bullshit excuse for a man!im sure people tell you this daily in your real life!warriors dont cry or complain,they take a beating when it comes and move on!Fucking spinless,chicken shit,bullshit,fucking pathetic pieces of shit like you would disgust and embarrass Bernard Hopkins himself,or anyman who lives by the warriors code!please!!just fuck off,you spineless puss filled pimple!you're pathetic
@Nonpeon you watch some bullshit video and call a spade a bicycle LOL!its not that i lost the arguement,its that Hopkins lost the fight.Grow up,this is actually a good lesson for your life.Dont be a fucking bullshit,crybaby.when you lose,its to your credit to man up and take it.Nobody wants to hear excuses except for your mum!grow up!
You put the M in M-oron. How would you know the video is BULLSHIT if you haven't seen it? Huh Einstein? Discrediting something you haven't seen means you're suffering from wishful thinking. Just like Calzaghe when he thought he'd won the fight, but people who've seen the replay can see it's obvious. But you're too stupid to even check it out. Okay, the world is flat then. LOL! And what the hell does David Haye have to do with Calzaghe losing the fight? Don't change the subject! :-)
@Nonpeon i have seen your stupid video,its pathetic,weak,desperate,grasping at straws,just like you are!sad thing is,Hopkins himself would be extremely ashamed of you.its cowardly,its patheic for a man to make excuses!ever!Joe Calzaghe was far better than Bernardhopkins though,He underestimated him,which is the worst mistake in combat,and lost,thats all!take it,live with it move on!dont cry like a bitch!the fact you dont get the Haye analogy shows how stupid you are as well as weak and pathetic!
Besides all your belly-aching like a GIRL, I'd like to know what about Calzaghe's missing his girlie punches and Hopkins getting in more effective punches makes the video weak? Please explain. Secondly, no lecturing since it's irrelevant. Thirdly, your Haye analogy is tangential AT BEST cause he (Haye) made an excuse for a fight he KNEW he lost, but Hopkins WON the fight, which he KNEW. Apples and Oranges, my friend. Or are you too stupid to understand that? LOL!!
@Nonpeon won what?is Hopkins the judge of his own fight?pathetic little sore loser,making bullshit crybaby excuses all your life with some bullshit video,i can make a video showing that im sending you this message from Mars,so what!Pathetic!!Hopkins was beat,live with it,accept it and fuck off!!
Man, you're weak as Kool-Aid, and your pathetic attempts to hold onto something which was obviously wrong due to your insanely nationalistic beliefs is akin to believing in a religion when there's no proof in the pudding. I got your figured out bub. Boy, I love myself. ha, ha, ha
@Nonpeon nationanlistic what?2 guys fought for 12 rnds,3 judges sitting inches away from the entire event decided that this guy won,the commentators agreed,the computer stats confirmed it,YOU are the one who cannot accept it,and you're accusing ME of nationalism?LOLme weak?weakness is shown in the inability to face reality!there is nothing weaker than one who makes excuses,its THE weakest thing on earth,its PATHETIC,SMALL,PETTY,COWARDLY,WEAK!you'd get much more respect if you simply accepted it!
Again you didn't understand plain English. Boy, you must be either blind, or really dumb. Let me try again. What specifically about the video you claimed you saw was lacking? I don't have time for silly, Girly insults. It's a petty attempt to avoid the issue. Now who's yellow? LOL!!! Can't wait for your response. It's comedy. :-)
@Nonpeon The verdict of The Hopkins V Calzaghe fight was delivered by 3 experienced professional judges who were sitting inches away from the 2 fighters,your stupid video was made by some dumb delusional muthafucker like you who wasnt even in the room,i know which i prefer.I could make a video showing me sittin in Obamas lap in the white house?so what!Your desperation,denial and self delusion gets more pathetic with every message.Hopkins was beaten,he lost,live with it..
Strange, how judges sitting "inches away" from fighters tend to screw up. It is a reoccurring theme in boxing. However, we have the video EVIDENCE that they fucked up, so, AGAIN, what exactly was wrong with the evidence. You have again failed to deal with it. Know why? Cause you don't want to. Just like the Kennedy shooting. People said, "well the authorities said he was killed by Oswald, and that's good enough for me." But then we have the Zapruder film. Hmm, this is the same thing
@Nonpeon Your man LOST he was BEATEN,live with it,move on,even he himself has,stop embarrasing yourself,please,ITS PATHETIC.Its like someone whose been dumped by his girlfriend,still calling her ,begging following her around,ITS PATHETIC man! have some self respect,accept reality and move on,stop humiliating yourself!!Hopkins himself would tell you the same!!MOVE ON!!
ha, ha, ha. I knew it. You have no legitimate argument AGAINST the video you saw, so you resort to calling me Pathetic (adhominum attacks). ha, ha, ha. I've already won the argument. I love it. Secondly, if you could make a video showing Pascal won, then why not do it? I'd watch it, and if he actually won the fight, then I'd agree with you. I SAW piddy-pat missed punches by Calzaghe with my OWN eyes in Slow-mo. How he was awarded the fight is the 9th wonder of the world. A mystery.
ha, ha, you should get your ass whupped cause you can't fathom that a person got robbed. Admit it, Calzaghe is a girl, fights like a girl, lost the fight, and refused to fight Hopkins again. Hmm, that says something about the people on the other side of the Atlantic. Big talkers, but scardy cats. Big LOL!!! Why didn't Calzaghe want Hopkins again? He's a chicken. ha, ha, ha,
@Nonpeon One thing about the boxing ring,its a place of truth,you will always get EXACTLY what you deserve!and you can cry and bitch and make all the bullshit videos you like,but in your heart you will KNOW thats EXACTLY what i deserved!Like Joe Louis said,you can run but you cant hide!There is nowhere more truthful than the ring!!When Ali lost the 1st fight to Frazier,for years and years he cried and moaned,i was robbed,they were racist blah blah,today he simply says yes He beat me!thats all!
Wrong again. Damn, you just can't get it right, can you. You don't ALWAYS get exactly what you deserve in the ring, if so, Hopkins wins. There's countless examples of fighters being robbed for you to make such a bonehead statement like that. And please don't sully Joe Louis' name with your silly arguments. You're just trying to sound eloquent, which is equivalent to Eddie Murphy speaking at a White House press conference. LOL!! Ali - Frazier. LOL!! Wait, Calzaghe is Frazier. LOL!!!
@Nonpeon Hopkins was outmuscled,outhustled,outpunched,outthought,outfought,out every single thing!!Calzaghe literally drained him,He had no idea how to handle this guy,nothing he did worked,and Calzaghe kept coming like a nightmare,even a knockdown counlnt stop him?like Ali,it might take you 30yrs,but the truth hits everybody,even some loser in denial on youtube.I bet your life is full of this too,you're probably still calling every girl who ever dumped you,begging?screaming,it didnt happen!LOL
What fight were you watching? Oh, you must mean Tyson vs Berbick. Hopkins certainly wasn't outmuscled as he hurt Calzaghe at least 3 times, knocking him down once. He wasn't hurt AT ALL. Throwing more punches AND MISSING doesn't count as being outpunched. Oh, I forgot that if you miss punches, YOU count them. LOL!! Hopkins is a counter puncher, so he doesn't lead. The only criticism I have of him is that he should have knocked the bum out earlier, but he was winning, so irrelevant.
@Nonpeon YOU ARE PATHETIC,Bernard Hopkins is not,YOU ARE!!show some self respect,be a man,stop being deperate,get up off your knees,accept reality,man up and move on!!
@Nonpeon You look Pathetic,you sound pathetic,your whole case is pathetic,The spineless weak desperate arguement of a sore loser who cannot accept reality!Be a man,accept reality,You will get much more respect trust me!You're Pathetic,spineless,and weak,MOVE ON!!Grow up,Grow a pair,Take your beating,be a man,get up off your knees,stop grasping at straws,dont be so desperate!desperation is the worst scent in the world,it will turn EVERYONE off you,even Hopkins himself,get a life and MOVE ON!!
@onlyjoetee Dont know why ur talking like u two have had a fight, ya both a couple of nobheads lol, u have different opnions grow up and move, u pair off tarts, lol
@3eethr The difference is,i can accept reality!!!im not a pathetic sore loser who makes bullshit crybaby excuses!!when my mans beat,i take it shake hands and move on,i dont winge with bullshit videos and so forth.We all have our fave fighters,they are human,sometimes they get beat,we take it and move on,Simple,thats what warriors do.Excuses are for your mum,no one else wants to hear that bullshit!and thats the truth Ruth!!its not opinion,its FACT!
@onlyjoetee u really are an arogant arse lol, ur wrd is fact cos u say it is, get te fuck! lol, and try boxing b4 u talk about being a warrior (LOL) im gussing ur a boxing fan who watches loads of fights but never even sparred (let alone had a bout) in ya life grow a pair b4 u talk bout bein somin u aint, lol
As Joe says " He fought B-hop in America with American judges and won". FACT.
headnogood1 1 week ago
Nobody ever looks good against Hopkins. Calzaghe was no exception. But Hopkins just didn't do anywhere near enough to win. He boxed well for the first four rounds and faded awfully down the stretch.
rossow88 4 weeks ago
hes so defensive when saying he won the fight, bc he knows he lost
jerryumeh1 1 month ago
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daveonfire2 1 month ago
calzaghe is the best so shut up!!how many times did joe loose????Twats!!!like the way rocky marciano would of punched the head off ali....whites rule the heavey weight game!!!! VITALI AND VWALD!!!!!!
byrnenick73 1 month ago
JC-a true Welsh, British and world ledgend-Cymru am Byth!!! 'Never' defeated!! Irest my case your honour.... :~{)
MrRALPHY15 1 month ago
@MrRALPHY15 Well said mate, one of the best British fighters around American's NEVER FORGET!
POLChelseaFC 1 month ago
Alot of butt hurt americans on here :-)
Barabus69er 1 month ago
Took the middle of the ring, outboxed him. What does these doubters that he won the fight not understand about boxing?
5StarWullie 2 months ago
@5StarWullie He threw girly slaps, they hit air and gloves, and Hopkins countered him all night with hard clean shots
Calzaghe's face was bruised and bloody, B-Hop hadn't a scratch on him. The eurobum got a boxing lesson.
pearcemark2 1 month ago
@pearcemark2 what fight you watching calzaghe landed most shots ever land on Hopkins he landed more than Hopkins he was the aggressor all night and all Hopkins did is counter and even then most of them didn't hit plus how was calzaghe face bloody haha he had one bruise on he's nose which was likely headbutt then Hopkins tried to make excuses in the fight to get some air you can not give it to B Hop when he landed less no combos just one hit then ran sat back whole fight dumbass
daveonfire2 1 month ago
@daveonfire2 Stop regurgitating rhetoric. He didn't land the most shots. He threw ILLEGAL slaps that do not score under the rules of boxing. The grand majority of them missed and were blocked. He landed less than 10% of what he threw. What he did land was rarely clean and had absolutely no effect.
At the end of the fight, Hopkins doesn't have a scratch on him. His face is spotless. Calzaghe's face showed that he was in a fight.
Controversial SD over 43 year old, not a win
pearcemark2 1 month ago
@pearcemark2 you have your opinion i have mine i still think calazaghe may not be biggest puncher or quickest but he came to fight Hopkins did not in the end calazaghe clear winner in my eyes
daveonfire2 1 month ago
@daveonfire2 Luckily for Hopkins, you don't have to "come to fight" to win. You just have to win more rounds. And he won 6 rounds with a knockdown, clearly beating Calzaghe.
pearcemark2 1 month ago
@pearcemark2 your wrong calazaghe won more rounds than Hopkins and knockdown means nothing anyone can be knocked down its about responding and calazaghe did why winning most of the rounds after
daveonfire2 1 month ago
@daveonfire2 Hopkins wins round 1 10-8, rounds 2-4 10-9
Calzaghe wins 5 6 and 7 10-9
Hopkins wins 8, Calzaghe 9, Hopkins 10, Calzaghe 11 and 12
that's 6 a piece, 114-113 B-Hop
pearcemark2 1 month ago
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@pearcemark2 i cant see how you gave Hopkins more rounds than calazaghe say if it was a tie who would you give it to either the aggressor or the fighter who ran whole fight and moaned i know who i would
daveonfire2 1 month ago
@pearcemark2
Your completely wrong, Calzaghe won the fight.
'Bernard Hopkins lost to white boy Joe Calzaghe on Saturday, April 19, 2008 at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, Nevada by a 12-round split decision. The score card for Hopkins-Calzaghe read 114-113 Hopkins, 115-112 Calzaghe and 116-111 Calzaghe. Harold Lederman, HBO's unofficial official scored it 116-111 Calzaghe. CompuBox stats showed Hopkins landing 127 of 468 (27&) while Calzaghe landed 232 out of 707 punches (33&)'.
opera123able 4 weeks ago
@opera123able Compubox is a joke, especially in that fight, and a split decision against a 43 year old man with a thyroid condition is never a win
It's funny how people think Compubox matters. Like it's some scientific robotic infallible system.
You know what compubox is? A 70 year old man watches the fight and hits a button every time he THINKS someone lands a punch. Nobody makes more mistakes than 70 year old men.
They mistook Joe's blocked slaps for landed blows.
pearcemark2 4 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 No thats wrong, it not only shows punches landed but also punches thrown. Whats wrong with being 70 years old?
What comments do you have to make about the fact that Harold Lederman, himself a respected judge and completley impartial in every fight I've seen him score for HBO, scored it 116-111 for Calzaghe?
The one judge only gave it to Hopkins by 1 single point, but she gave the 5th,6th and 10th for Hopkins, whilst the others gave them for Calzaghe, so she cocked up those rounds
opera123able 4 weeks ago
@opera123able Harold Lederman is known for having his head up his ass. Most of the time the commentators, who also have their heads up their ass, are blatantly disagreeing with his assessment. Lederman and Merchant are constantly nipping at each other like little bitches.
Hopkins swept the first 4 with a 10-8 in the first
Calzaghe sweeps 5, 6, 7
B-Hop 8, Calzaghe 9, Hopkins 10, Calzaghe 11 and 12
114-113 B-Hop via clean effective accurate punching
pearcemark2 4 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 114-113 to Bhop is not a very convincing win anyway, so you cant complain too much really.
Harold Lederman is a respected judge, so is Chuck Giampa and so is Ted Gizma - have they all got their heads up their ass then just cos you dont agree with them. They are all from the US also - if they had all been from the UK you would be saying they were biased for their own fighter, but you cant even say that.
Watch Lewis v Holyfield 1st fight for a real boxing scoring travesty
opera123able 4 weeks ago
@opera123able "respected judge" and Larry Merchant is a "respected commentator" yet ALL you see is fighters disgusted at him for being a dumb cunt
Don't start with that judging bullshit, UK fighters get as many favors in the US as the UK. Look at Froch/Ward, two ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS 115-113 scores from the US judges.
How many gift decisions did Hatton get? Like, 2 out of his 4 or 5 fights in the US?
Get with it. Joe got exposed as being a class below.
pearcemark2 4 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 Hang on a minute, how can you say that Joe was 'a class below' when at the same time you've given him 6 rounds against Hopkins??!! THat makes no sense, as your saying that he has won 50% of the rounds, but still a class below - makes not sense.
I gave Joe 7 rounds (only 1 more than you), I gave 3 to Hopkins (one at 10-8) and I scored 2 others as even. So overall I had it 116-113 for Calzaghe. I agree that 116-111 is a bit wide, but Joe definatley deserved to win by at least 114-113
opera123able 4 weeks ago
@opera123able He got 6 rounds against a 43 year old B-Hop based solely on his inactivity. Joe won rounds by default. He looked HORRIBLE doing it. He wasn't landing anything meaningful. 90% of his offense consisted of the most awkward sloppy desperate slap-flailing I've ever seen in a boxing ring.
It was truly embarassing. And since that's the biggest opponent of his career, name wise and skill wise, at 43 years old, it's safe to conclude Joe was nothing more than a B fighter
pearcemark2 4 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 THe fact is that Joe WON AT LEAST 6 ROUNDS - PERIOD. If B-Hop had outclassed Joe he would not have lost as many as 6.
At 44 years old B-Hop beat 27 year old Kelly Pavlik with ease, so clearly age has not affected B-Hop like it does most at that level.
B class fighters do not defend WBO titles for 11 years, they dont unify all the belts and hold WBO, IBG, WBC, WBA & Ring Magazine and then step up a weight and win Ring magazine at that weight.
Catch yourself on.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able WBOgus titles aren't real. Joe defended them against C and D level comeptition for 11 years.
Bronko Sobot, Miguel Angel Jiminez, Omar Sheika, Evans Ashira, Kabary Salem, Tocker Pudwill, WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE??? The answer: Nowhere near top fighters.
He had 2 unification fights, one against a B fighter coming off shoulder surgery and the other against a 1 handed fighter who really doesn't have any superbly outstanding qualities.
And 40 year olds.
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2
I didn't say he beat someone, I said he faced a top guy within 2 years. Eubank was still mentally scarred from the Watson fight agasint Collins, and afraid of doing the same to someone else.
Eubank may not have been fully prepared, but Calzaghe beat him so very convincingly that he definatley would have won even if Eubank was fully prepared. I know you dont pay any attention to judges scorecards (?), but the judges scored it: 116-111, 118-110 & 118-109. - Pretty unanimous.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able By that logic, Berbick beats prime Ali because he stomped him when they fought. Joke.
Byron Mitchell was nobody, he was a placeholder. Woodhall was past it just like Eubank, and he didn't beat Reid. Reid kicked his ass, Calzaghe got a gift split decision and pussyboy Joe ducked him for a rematch, just like he did Hopkins.
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 Fighters make belts, not the other way round. Calzaghe completley unified all the supermiddleweight belts in brilliant style with huge points victories against Lacy and more the more formidable Kessler. He beat those guys with ease, and he was the WBO champ, so Calzaghe actually raised the profile of the WBO Belt, not what you are trying to suggest (i.e. the WBO lowered Calzaghe)
He definatley did enough to beat a decent Bernard Hopkins despite what you or anyone else on here says.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able It took Calzaghe 9 years before he even considered a unification fight. He spent the majority of his career in joke fights against nobodies because he was a scared sissy. Refused to go to Germany to fight Ottke, but he was happy to go there to fight bum Mario Veit. Scared bitch.
"Afraid of flying", YUCH
feather fisted fag
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
No you yanks dodged him for that long. He always said he was scared of flying, what was your guys excuse. As ive said before a disgruntled yank can't handle the truth. You say he was scared but your men never stepped in front of him, never crossed the pond never wanted to lose. Hopkins was "over the hill" "past him prime" until he beat pavlik. You blow all the bubbles you want can't change the facts he retired unbeaten.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 AHHAHHAA YOU SILLY BASTARD
First of all, scared of flying is a bullshit excuse when his own promoters were like "He'd tell me he's scared to fly to fight, then he'd hop on a plane to go vacation". Calzaghe is a dick tucking pussy who pulled out of and avoided big fights time after time.
Second, why would the top P4P fighters on the planet travel to some eurobum's country for less money to get fucked by referees and judges? Not how it works. You come to them.
pearcemark2 1 week ago
Keep blowing bubbles as you walk in circles. FOOL, as soon as the truth comes out the insults start. JOKER.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 Retiring unbeaten means that you didn't fight the best at their best. Calzaghe's record is ungodly weak. You honestly think B-Hop wouldn't retire undefeated fighting bums like Branko Sobot, Omar Sheika, Miguel Angel Jiminez, Evans Ashira, Kabary Salem, Tocker Pudwill, Mario Veit, etc? Don't make me laugh.
Joe is a sheltered fraud and the only reason you brits cling to him is because you have NOTHING so anyone who comes along who's almost good, you hop on their nuts
pearcemark2 1 week ago
You know im right thats why your still blowing bubbles. It's you yanks who "hop on their nuts". I asked you what your guys excuses are?, you gave me nothing. How many crossed the pond and lost? All of them. You think the champ travels, so how many of your champs came to get him. Doh. You hate the fact that A man from a country of 3 million (Wales) stopped any of you yanks from being the outright champ for 10 years, the challenger has to beat the champ and none did FACT.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 Bro, you're a pathetic delusional little bitch grasping at straws.
I get it. If I was from a pathetic shithole and some homo soccer player popped up who was half decent, I would gobble his nuts and pretend he's the greatest thing that ever hit a soccer field
But from the perspective of a country that's produced so many greats, so many epic talents that can never be matched, I look down and pity sad little idiots like you who have to cling to your B class bums.
pearcemark2 1 week ago
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"If I was from a pathetic shithole and some homo soccer player popped up who was half decent, I would gobble his nuts and pretend he's the greatest thing that ever hit a soccer field". Dude wake up you live in America and thats what you do every day.
headnogood1 1 week ago
You idiot you stole your country from the Indians.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 Uh, okay.
We actually stole it from the native americans. We just called them indians because we were searching India, but they were like "what the fuck we're not indians" and we were like "yes huh, shut up injun" and called them indians because we're assholes.
But that's beside the point. The point is, Joe's technique is garbage. He fights sloppy, wreckless, and desperate. No boxing coach would ever advise a person to stand square and slap back and forth with your palms.
pearcemark2 1 week ago
@headnogood1 For fuck's sake, the guy doesn't even punch. He literally slaps like a girl.
In boxing you are not allowed to strike with the palm. It's not a legal blow. Slapping is an illegal technique.
Your hero, the guy you worship and think is the greatest thing you've ever seen just because he was shit out of a cunt near the same place you were shit out of a cunt, slaps like a bitch.
You literally worship a boxer who can't throw a punch.
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pearcemark2 1 week ago
Ha Ha, what are you on about your american referee and judges missed this. Or even better he beat your idols RJJ and B-hop by slapping them like girls. Ha Ha Ha. Type something else I could not put you down as well as you do your self. Sometimes its better to say nothing and look cool than to speak and remove all doubt!. Baby boy.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 He beat a shot old 5%-of-his-prime Roy Jones.
Joe wrote in his own biography "Jones is washed up, Tarver only beat Roy because he's past it. Neither one is worth fighting.", but he GLADLY fought Roy the first chance he got.
Yet here's what Joe said in 2003: "I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."
Pussyboy Joe
pearcemark2 1 week ago
If you are looking for quotes heres two. “For me Joe is the best pound for pound fighter in the world." RJJ before the fight. " I never fought him in my prime because I never wanted to risk the title" RJJ after the fight. Does this make it Pussyboy Joe and Roy?. You dont seem to get it every time one of you yanks says he was scared to get your idols, us Welsh ask why they never came to get him. p.s Calzaghe got 10 million to slap RJJ around, nice work if you ask me.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 Roy is a promoter, he'll say anything to hype a fight and make himself look good.
Why on earth would the P4P #1 fighter on the planet travel to some nowhere country to fight a nobody and risk getting robbed on points, like he did in the olympics when he went to Korea?
If you want to test yourself and fight the best, you come to america and fight them. Joe was scared.
"I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."
pearcemark2 1 week ago
you bubbleblowing troll you are so far up your idols arsehole. You cant see the truth. Every little soundbite you twist, fact you ignore and everything has an excuse for you. Bet you wish you are marty mcfly and could travel back and change the past, but you can't. So I will stick with the facts 46-0 retired unbeaten after beating everyone who had the balls to stand in front of him ( which eventually your idols did and got slapped remember) troll away fool.
headnogood1 1 week ago
@headnogood1 Dude, stop with the girly rhetoric.
Sven Ottke technically retired undefeated, is he your hero too? HE BEAT EVERYONE IN FRONT OF HIM DURRRR BEST EVER
Harry Simon, he's undefeated too. He must be better than Joe right? After all, he never had a split decision against a 43 year old that, every time it's mentioned in a news article, is referred to as "contentious" and "razor thin", AKA not a legit win.
Joe's a fraud bum and his fans aren't boxing fans
pearcemark2 1 week ago
calzaghe was all over hopkins. Hopkins fought a negative fight and just didnt want to push the pace so calzaghe had to be the man to try and make it interesting but even then Bernard Hopkins just never moved forward and was outpunched by a mile.
bantermelon 2 months ago
All he can do is fight retired boxers? How can he fight retired boxers, if theyre retired theyre not boxers....
SINNCITYBOY87 2 months ago
Hopkins was a sore loser. Simple. It was a pretty shit fight, Hopkins kept holiding and just anti-boxed. All be did was make it difficult and Joe's right, he just didn't fight his best. I was an off night and he still won fair and square.
MrBbuds 2 months ago
@MrBbuds agreed Calzaghe won that won one fair and square !
joust671 1 month ago
Prime RJJ, EUBANK, WATSON, MCLELLAN would all win from Calzaghe and please dont say that eubank was in his prime ;-)
1978utreg 3 months ago
@1978utreg No they wouldn't. Would have been great to watch though.
MrBbuds 2 months ago
@MrBbuds mclellan would have knocked him out in the first couple of rounds. Jones would have whiped the floor with him and watson also had a good chance beating him...Calzaghe didn't fight many great fights or great fighters in there prime...
1978utreg 2 months ago 2
@1978utreg Absolute nonsense - Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn have both fullly acknowledged that Joe Calzaghe was better than they were, and Benn beat Mclellan and Eubank beat Watson. - Also Joe was only 25 and had fought no one when he gave a 31 year old, seasoned pro Chris Eubank a boxing lesson. Eubank did not use any excuses and knew he was beaton by a superior boxer.
The one regret about Calzaghe is that he didn't fight Roy Jones Jr in 2001, when they were both at their peaks.
opera123able 4 weeks ago
@opera123able have you ever seen benn-mclellan and eubank-watson fights? dont think so otherwise you wouldnt post such a stupid comment...Eubank wasnt the same after the tragedy against Watson...learn about the history of the fights instead of statistics....
1978utreg 4 weeks ago
@1978utreg I know about the history and I have seen all the Eubank v Watson & Benn & Benn v Mclellan etc. I have also seen Eubank lose 5 times, Benn lose 5 times (twice when at his peak) They were great fighters, but Eubank and Benn have both said themselves that Joe Calzaghe was better than both of them ever were - FACT.
Thats not a statistic thats just what they said.
When Eubank fought Calzaghe he was only 31 years old!!!! -Calzaghe was 35 when he totally outclassed a 28 year Kessler.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able Eubank wasnt the same fighter after the watson fight everybody knows that... i know he was 31 but he had fought a lot of hard fights before the match against calzaghe so age doesnt tell the whole story about someones prime
1978utreg 3 weeks ago
@opera123able Eubank hadn't beaten a top opponent in over 3 years, had retired after the second Collins loss, came back a year later at 177 pounds, fought twice at that weight, and on 1 week's notice he drained himself back down to 168 to fight Joe. Chris proceeded to lose his next 2 fights and retire, as he was clearly past his best.
Do you also say Trevor Berbick gave Ali a boxing lesson? That he was beaten by a superior boxer?
pearcemark2 4 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 Steve Collins was a top opponant and he fought him 2 years before Joe, not 3.
Also he had 7 months to prepare for Calzaghe not 1 weel you liar.
How the hell can you even begin the try and compare 31 year old Eubank with all his faculties and in good shape fighting 25 year old Calzaghe, to 27 year old Berbick beating a 40 year old, battle weary Muhamed Ali who was in the early stages of Parkinson's?
I dont know how to answer that, your just too dumb.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able He didn't beat Collins. He got beat, twice, and looked like a shell of his old self in the second fight. Hence, didn't beat a top opponent for over 3 years and was past it. As evidenced by him taking a year off before coming back at a higher weight class.
Calzaghe was scheduled to face Collins. Collins retired instead. Eubank, who was prepared for a fight at 177 pounds against a right handed fighter, filled in on a weeks notice to face Calzaghe at 168 pounds.
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
@opera123able A quote from Eubank just 6 months ago:
"Steve Collins relinquished his world title, complaining of one or two things, and I took the bout at a few days' notice.
Joe had quick hands and he hit hard, but I took him to points.
As for what would have happened if I had been at the top of my game is an unfair question because nobody knows and I wouldn't try to decry Calzaghe."
Filled in, wasn't at the top of his game, saying Joe's a bum in a classy way.
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2
I get the impression you dont like Calzaghe and dont respect him.
You've mentioned some B class opponants he fought, but he also TKO'd (in 2 rounds) former two time WBA World Champ Byron Mitchell in 2003, he TKO'd former WBC Champ RIchie Woodhall in 2000, and he also defeated former WBC Champ Robin Reid in 1999.
It is a big regret that Calzaghe didn't get to fight Roy Jones Junior in 2001, when Jones was seen as this invincible superhero. Roy Jones fought Clinton Woods that year
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@1978utreg Was Calzaghe in his prime?
Barabus69er 1 month ago
calzaghe, was one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, he got nocked down yes but he was hardly hurt lol, hopkins might have rocked him with a couple of punches, but its boxing, if you land punches, you score points, he landed the most hopkins has ever been hit with, nuf said lol
haxomps 3 months ago
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quoting bernard "i busted him up" lol joe slaps like a little bitch and cant hit out of a paper bag what a joke
wreakyourface 3 months ago
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wreakyourface 3 months ago
so stupid so he's not at goot as hopkins and jones in prim they are both in top 50 ATG he was a world class fighter and maybe in the top 100 ATG.
basically he was good.
sjewitt22 3 months ago
WBO, WBC, IBF, WBA Super Middleweight Champion 46 wins 0 losses 32 by the way of KO.
AirWarCrimewave 3 months ago
Calzaghe beat Hopkins in a close fight. Joe landed more punches and Hopkins looked worn down and frustrated. It was close but Calzaghe got the nod on American soil. All you JC haters should give up trying to discredit a Boxing legend.
AirWarCrimewave 3 months ago
his a fuckin fake, and a cheat benard whooped his ass, he had fights with retired boxers, fuk him he is a disgrace to boxing, after all it is a whit world
faji187 4 months ago
the worst boxer in the world what a joke if i had a pound for every slap joe has thrown i would be the richest man on the planet, hopkins was robbed and jones didnt care lol joe you really think your the champ get real, ive boxed half my life and ive never seen so much shit hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hat a joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke joke poor
goodygum20 4 months ago
another thought - JC is probably nuhappy because he had to resort to cheating A LOT in this fight to win. Hes an honourable fighter and it wasnt his style, but he had to do it to start winning rounds against B-Hop.
rohanjones100 4 months ago
And I can understand Joes anger after, cos he just realised he hasnt been the best SMW all these years.
rohanjones100 4 months ago
I used to rate JC high but when I saw him getting taken apart by someone with real boxing ability (Hopkins) I lost that view. Hes a great Euorpean/British fighter but not a great World champion.
rohanjones100 4 months ago
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to be fair JC won the fight using his massive fitness advantage over a grandfather, not as a boxer. JC is lucky he ducked fighters like Bernard in their prime or he would have half a dozen defeats by now.
Bernard made Joe look like a British champion rather than a World title holder, and only lost because he gassed out in later rounds - otherwise it would have been a one sided bout in Hopkins favour all the way through instead of just the first five rounds.
rohanjones100 4 months ago
to be fair JC won the fight using his massive fitness advantage over a grandfather, not as a boxer. JC is lucky he ducked fighters like Bernard in their prime or he would have half a dozen defeats by now.
Bernard made Joe look like a British champion rather than a World title holder, and only lost because he gassed out in later rounds - otherwise it would have been a one sided bout in Hopkins favour all the way through instead of just the first five rounds.
rohanjones100 4 months ago
Joe the slapper. Perfect record? Beating bums! Bernard beat the slapper.
lcvd1 4 months ago
I'm a semi. Pro boxer my self. In all fairness who landed more punches?? Calzaghe by the cards you div. So that makes that boxer the winner. if it is scored properly. It wasn't a convincing win cause of clash of styles!!!! Also the judges were all American and it was in the Hopkins back yard, normally when a White person or Englishman fights in America they have to knock the yank out to win the fight!! !!
Have a look at my last fight on you tube then tell me that I don't know jack shit. Kai xx
Kaixxxtaylor 4 months ago
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lol no that was not a head bunt he got rocked like 3 times all joe did was slap
emptycowful 4 months ago 7
@emptycowful All Joe did was win.
Andarovin 3 months ago
@emptycowful well he slapped down B-Hop....and won
gapamu66 3 months ago
Calzaghe bashed Hopkins he got done by a White boy. Punches that landed speak for it's self
Kaixxxtaylor 4 months ago
@Kaixxxtaylor then why did all major sports companys scored the fight for hopkins as the winner along with boxers such as mike tyson and carl froch you know jack shit about boxing freddie roach said hopkins won cause of the more clean and heavier shots calzaghe is a slap boxing bitch
WallaceKeysXperiment 4 months ago
@Kaixxxtaylor and also look at calzaghes face before the cards were read he had that look like he knew he lost usually when he thinks hes won hes all walking around and shit and this one his head was down looked like a sad little puppy
WallaceKeysXperiment 4 months ago
haha calzaghe beat up the old man, who just ran away past round 4 and kept claiming low blowes! FUKIN HOPKINS IS A LOOOSER
shakeyjake151 4 months ago
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@shakeyjake151 lol joe got his ass rocked i dont know what fight you saw but he got beat down he was slapping and getting smashed by real shots hopkins face was perfect at the end of that fight joe was beat up joe the bum
emptycowful 4 months ago 5
@emptycowful still won, so stop ranting you silly yank
GIProductionz 4 months ago
@emptycowful Joe won , are you a lil bit butthurt maybe : (
Hopkins made it a boring as fuck fight at least calzaghe tried to make it exciting , do you seriously think Hopkins put on a great performance? LOL End of the day Joe was undefeated , everyone he fought wanted to knock him out , none of them did.
LogicalStatements1 4 months ago
@emptycowful sorry, are you a pro boxing judge? If not, no one cares about your view. especially when there is plenty more like you who thought Joe won.
OneTwoMark 3 months ago
Hopkins got ROBBED! Calzaghe's own father was telling him before the 12th round he had to knock Hopkins out to win. British fan's stop being biased towards Calzaghe. I respect British fighters like Lennox Lewis, but Calzaghe is a plain liar. Headbutts? How low could he go, he got outclassed thats why he ducked a Hopkins rematch, British fans, ask yourself why would he do that, if he thought he clearly won the first fight?
username7212345 4 months ago
Love Joes straightforwardness! "Why'd I get caught with a punch... I got caught with a punch,... bang, that was it" It is boxing after all.
boxer12350 5 months ago
hopkins shud have won it was so close why wasnt there a rematch
aaarrr1 5 months ago
i hate how they say british boxser (im welsh) instead of welsh boxser if he had lostd they would say welsh boxser but because he won the say british boxser and when an english boxser wins they say english boxser not british
MrAwrsomeness 5 months ago
@MrAwrsomeness i no wot u mean but, they would hav sed british boxer from walse or england or woteva.
greenp03 5 months ago
Whether or not you think Hopkins should have won; the fact is "B-Hop" is the kind of guy everyone wants to see get mauled by Calzaghe; the guy's a racist trash talking wanker. Big Joe FTW.
andeeholden 5 months ago
Calzaghe winner End of, its was always gonna be that way!!!!!
highfieldave22 6 months ago
TO ALL YOU WHO THINK CALSLAPPY BEAT BERNARD HOPKINS, YOU EITHER DUMB OR YOU DIDNT WATCH THE FIGHT, "A BOXING MATCH IS SCORED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO LANDS THE MOST CLEAN AND EFFECTIVE PUNCHES" NOT SLAPPING AND FLAILING AROUND LIKE A LITTLE BITCH, IT WAS FIXED TO SET UP A ROY JONES FIGHT, PEOPLE WHO THINK CALSLAPPY WON CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE SWEET SCIENCE...btw im British and white.
Nathan2345678 6 months ago
@Nathan2345678 two american judge give the fight to calzaghe get over it. it was 3 years ago
quebecois411 6 months ago
@quebecois411 thats because they were paid off its fucking simple.
Nathan2345678 6 months ago
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@Nathan2345678 where is your proof ??
quebecois411 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 british and white? i feel sorry for you to be british and white im paki and brown
Thegoldstarman 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 Nobody cares who you are, what color you are or how much you like to use ALL CAPS. Joe has a perfect record and he absolutely embarassed Bernard Hopkins. The score card may have told one story but what we saw was a poor guy get clowned by a skinny welchman. Remember when he turned Bhop around and wiggled his hips behind him to make him his bitch? An American black man got the ultimate disrespect in the ring delivered by a little white boy. Sorry bro, I saw the fight.
hatfisc 5 months ago
@hatfisc To the naked eye it appears that way yes, HBO do a very good job at lying to the public, this whole fight was fixed to set up a Big money fight with Roy jones jr, if you watch in slo motion Joe Calslappy got schooled, watch the Joe Calzaghe deception... Joe's a good fighter but certainly nothing more than that, just because hes undefeated doesn't mean shit, you cannot give him credit for Hopkins or Jones, any true boxing fan would know the sweet science is a corrupt sport.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 Interesting, however, how can you say the fight was "fixed" then say Joe got schooled? Which is it? You said it "would appear" that bhop got schooled but then say Joe actually was the one that got schooled but the fight was fixed to that what our eyes actually saw was the outcome of the fight? That sounds like an over complication of the actual facts. Which are: It appeard Bhop got schooled(because he did) Joe won (which he did) while you deny facts(which you are.)
hatfisc 5 months ago
@hatfisc What the fuck are you on about?... i never said Bhop got schooled, Bhop schooled Joe Calslappy, the fight was fixed so therefore the judges and the guys at HBO were paid off the tip it in Joe Calslappys favor, want another recent example?... how about Paul williams vs Lara, how about Lacus Matthysse vs Devon Alexander it goes on and on... Boxing is corrupt, and Bhop landed the more clean and effective punches, while joe was slapping and flailing around like bitch.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 You admitted that to "the naked eye" it would appear that Bhop got schooled. That's an englishmans way of not being honest with himself or another boxing fan(me.) You must be thinking that powerful punches are the only ones that score points. Joe couldn't knock Bhop out or vice versa. Joe won on points, style and endurance. I don't know what I was supposed to see beyond the "naked eye" besides what constitues a boxing match. I think you're just an MMA fan.
hatfisc 5 months ago
@hatfisc God your a retard, Joe is a con man, watch "The Joe Calzaghe deception" to save me the time trying to explain to your gullible ass, P.S i dont watch MMA.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 That's "you are" a retard or "you're" a retard. Remember that the next time you insult someone else's intelligence. "You're" actually telling me to watch some film made by a Calzaghe hater? I'm sure you will or "you'll" also buy everything in Michael Moore's documentaries. The fact that such a fim has been made about a boxer should throw you the first clue of the absurdity of the concept. The guy is a legend for his endurance and determination.
hatfisc 5 months ago
@hatfisc Dude this is the internet i'm not writing a noval, so get that fucking pole out your ass, and its not a film by some Calzaghe "hater"... here's an idea why dont you just go watch it a form your own fucking opinion, (The Joe Calzaghe Deception) is what its called, go watch it ALL then come back and tell me Bhop didnt win the fight... dont be a sheep.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678
bit angry chap! the product of unfulfilled expectations. i suppose bhop never loses; he's just that good? you can always discern the strategy of the liar, as they're the ones accusing another of the very thing that they are doing. bhop is a genius at deception, and calzaghe is just a better fighter - no deceptive tactics required!
adh0522 5 months ago
@adh0522 No i'm not angry i just used capslock to get peoples attention, anyway watch the Joe Calzaghe Deception here on youtube, Joe is a fraud and a conman, and you all got conned.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
@Nathan2345678 you're what they call a conspiracy theorist. Go look that up online.
instereovideos 5 months ago
class act joe.
steviesoul76 6 months ago
Hopkins was robbed clearly!!!! Also cal was scared to do the rematch..this guy has Nothing on Hopkins
fullybuiltcivic1 6 months ago
victory? He lost
Rep843 6 months ago
I dont think Joe Calzaghes the problem here rathert a 46yr Hopkins can still be competitive in his division . Thats why everyones watching UFC and MMA Boxings dying.
FracturedUnion71 6 months ago
Hopkins fought dirty. It was just anti-boxing. Hopkins is a cool guy but and he's a smart/dirty fighter and it's true Calzaghe didn't really perform in the fight but he's a much much better boxer than Hopkins and he just about won it, even though he didn't perform.
MrBbuds 6 months ago
legend
postman445 6 months ago
@cpaignfalife19
calzaghe was clearly shocked to get the decision, he knew he'd been beaten up
jdector53 6 months ago
Most overrated boxer of all time
Jonezaay 6 months ago
fuck all the Calzaghe haters who bum Hopkins, Calzaghe won. HE was the agressor and he landed far more punches, therefore he was the better fighter. End of Story.
DXvsnWo1 6 months ago
@DXvsnWo1
yeah end of story for people who know nothing about boxing and only watch white fighters
jdector53 6 months ago
Bernard Hopkins 'a self proclaimed living legend' haha says it all. Joe Calzaghe is a living legend
StereOasis93 7 months ago
@StereOasis93
Hopkins is legend and he won the fight. Listen to that he sad after the bought, thats exactly what happend!
davethamaster 6 months ago
@davethamaster if you're in a ring with someone who is advancing all the time and you're retreating all the time,who is outworking you in volume and pressure all night,how the fuck can you say you won!Hopkins didnt win shit!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee so your saying all of those countershots that hopkins had on joe calzaghe, slipping, bobbing and weaving almost all of calzaghe's punches, calzaghe hitting low blows and hitting him in the back of the head, that calzaghe won that fair? U JUST MADE URSELF A DUMBASS
pimpontherun 6 months ago
@pimpontherun No Sir,if you're in a fight,and the other man is stepping forward while you're stepping back,is applying more pressure to you than you are to him,is outworking you in volume,then HE IS WINNING,simple as that!!plus Hopkins is a cheat,he has articles in boxing magazines about how to cheat!pretending he's hurt when he's not,so he can rest,going in with his head all the time,trapping opponents hand on refs blindside!if you think this will win you points WRONG,judges see it!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee calzghe was just walking getting hit with hopkins left hook and his counter right cross hopkins was circling him because hes just walking up to him trying to throw a combination and missing. Even Carl Froch, and Freddie Roach said Bernard won the fight so saying hes a cheat so you are saying hopkins won four world titles and a former middlewieght champion, AND defending his middlewieght title 20 times and number 10 of the pound 4 pound boxer in the world is a cheat? I dont think so.
pimpontherun 6 months ago
@pimpontherun Remember,Hopkins was brought up in prison,so that is where his mentality was formed,DISHONEST!!and you see this in his style...
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee Remember Calzaghe only fought bums in europe and some of them he should of lost and might of fought Roy Jones but Jones was way out of his prime and if Roy jones was in his prime he would of stopped Calzaghe early in the fight.
pimpontherun 6 months ago
@pimpontherun dont gimme that bullshit,Calzaghe fought and beat people that Roy Jones ducked,like Chris Eubank,Dont gimme no prime shit either Roy was 36 Joe was 33 when they fought,so fuck that arguement!The tactics that Calzaghe used to beat Roy Jones was exactly the same as everyone else who beat Roy Jones.Get him to the ropes,deny him space and time,thats all!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Calzaghe lost this fight, and he knows it. That's why he REFUSED to give Hopkins a rematch. Calzaghe was throwing slapping punches, and missing. Hopkins threw the most effective punches. If you don't believe it, there's a replay of the fight with commentary. I believed Calzaghe had won until I saw the replay. Incredible. A robbery!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon You can keep telling yourself that delusional bullshit if it helps you sleep better at night LOL denial is a comfortable place!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
I watched the fight again, but with slow-mo playback. Calzaghe was throwing girl slapping punches and missing, and Hopkins was throwing the more effective punches. the score should have been 115 - 112 Hopkins. Secondly, Calzaghe knew it, and refused to give Hopkins a rematch, retiring instead. Hopkins vowed he'd would have knocked him out. I think Calzaghe KNOWS who won that fight. He's a chicken. Now if you don't believe me, look at the evidence yourself.
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Stop saying that because I think the world is round (due to evidence which you've not been privy to) that I'm delusional. Well you're an ignorant ass. Go here and see for yourself: THE JOE CALZAGHE DECEPTION on youtube. And don't waste my time writing me UNTIL you see it. Fact it, I'd assumed Calzaghe had won until I saw it, then I was like, "Damn, Hopkins got robbed." Welcome to reality pal. LOL!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon The ONLY thing i hate about boxing,is the excuses!There is ALWAYS some fucking excuse!we all have fighters we like,but when they get beat,JUST ACCEPT IT!!Dont come up with no fucking bullshit excuses because it makes you look small petty and stupid.Sometimes its the other guys turn to win,sometimes he just has your number or whatever!Bernard Hopkins was soundly beaten and bested over 12 rnds by Joe Calzaghe,THATS ALL!Accept it,live with it and fuck off!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
So are you stupidly trying to claim that bad decisions DON'T happen in boxing? LOL!! Let's start there and continue. Secondly, you haven't even watched the evidence. Go to school son and get some knowledge. Calzaghe is a chicken, and HE knows it.
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon What bad decision?3 judges unanimously,ALL commentators AND compubox ALL showed Calzaghe winning CLEARLY!!Like i said,we all have fighters we like,when the get beat,just accept it,dont come up with stupid fucking bullshit crybaby excuses that the fighter himself would be embarrased to make!!it just makes you look stupid,petty,small,desperate,childish,ignorant,delusional!Bernard Hopkins was soundly beaten thats all.He was still good enough to win a tilte yrs later,but not on that day!END
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Ooops, did you watch the fight you boob? LOL!! It was a split decision. What a moron!! Secondly, watch The Joe Calzaghe Deception on youtube, and eat your words. It's like I'm arguing math, and you havent' studied it yet. Get a clue and hit me back with an apology. Can't wait. LOL!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon you're a weak,spineless,childish,pathetic,cowardly,bullshit excuse for a man!im sure people tell you this daily in your real life!warriors dont cry or complain,they take a beating when it comes and move on!Fucking spinless,chicken shit,bullshit,fucking pathetic pieces of shit like you would disgust and embarrass Bernard Hopkins himself,or anyman who lives by the warriors code!please!!just fuck off,you spineless puss filled pimple!you're pathetic
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
La, la, la, la. Admit it boob, you dont know what you're talking about. Secondly, Calzaghe is SPINELESS. He refused a rematch. LOL!!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon for you to call someone else spineless truly takes the cake,you fucking pathetic,bullshit crybaby!!just fuck off man
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
I call a Spade a Spade. You've lost the argument, so don't waste my time. kiss kiss LOL!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon you watch some bullshit video and call a spade a bicycle LOL!its not that i lost the arguement,its that Hopkins lost the fight.Grow up,this is actually a good lesson for your life.Dont be a fucking bullshit,crybaby.when you lose,its to your credit to man up and take it.Nobody wants to hear excuses except for your mum!grow up!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
You put the M in M-oron. How would you know the video is BULLSHIT if you haven't seen it? Huh Einstein? Discrediting something you haven't seen means you're suffering from wishful thinking. Just like Calzaghe when he thought he'd won the fight, but people who've seen the replay can see it's obvious. But you're too stupid to even check it out. Okay, the world is flat then. LOL! And what the hell does David Haye have to do with Calzaghe losing the fight? Don't change the subject! :-)
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon i have seen your stupid video,its pathetic,weak,desperate,grasping at straws,just like you are!sad thing is,Hopkins himself would be extremely ashamed of you.its cowardly,its patheic for a man to make excuses!ever!Joe Calzaghe was far better than Bernardhopkins though,He underestimated him,which is the worst mistake in combat,and lost,thats all!take it,live with it move on!dont cry like a bitch!the fact you dont get the Haye analogy shows how stupid you are as well as weak and pathetic!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Besides all your belly-aching like a GIRL, I'd like to know what about Calzaghe's missing his girlie punches and Hopkins getting in more effective punches makes the video weak? Please explain. Secondly, no lecturing since it's irrelevant. Thirdly, your Haye analogy is tangential AT BEST cause he (Haye) made an excuse for a fight he KNEW he lost, but Hopkins WON the fight, which he KNEW. Apples and Oranges, my friend. Or are you too stupid to understand that? LOL!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon won what?is Hopkins the judge of his own fight?pathetic little sore loser,making bullshit crybaby excuses all your life with some bullshit video,i can make a video showing that im sending you this message from Mars,so what!Pathetic!!Hopkins was beat,live with it,accept it and fuck off!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Man, you're weak as Kool-Aid, and your pathetic attempts to hold onto something which was obviously wrong due to your insanely nationalistic beliefs is akin to believing in a religion when there's no proof in the pudding. I got your figured out bub. Boy, I love myself. ha, ha, ha
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon nationanlistic what?2 guys fought for 12 rnds,3 judges sitting inches away from the entire event decided that this guy won,the commentators agreed,the computer stats confirmed it,YOU are the one who cannot accept it,and you're accusing ME of nationalism?LOLme weak?weakness is shown in the inability to face reality!there is nothing weaker than one who makes excuses,its THE weakest thing on earth,its PATHETIC,SMALL,PETTY,COWARDLY,WEAK!you'd get much more respect if you simply accepted it!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Again you didn't understand plain English. Boy, you must be either blind, or really dumb. Let me try again. What specifically about the video you claimed you saw was lacking? I don't have time for silly, Girly insults. It's a petty attempt to avoid the issue. Now who's yellow? LOL!!! Can't wait for your response. It's comedy. :-)
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon The verdict of The Hopkins V Calzaghe fight was delivered by 3 experienced professional judges who were sitting inches away from the 2 fighters,your stupid video was made by some dumb delusional muthafucker like you who wasnt even in the room,i know which i prefer.I could make a video showing me sittin in Obamas lap in the white house?so what!Your desperation,denial and self delusion gets more pathetic with every message.Hopkins was beaten,he lost,live with it..
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Strange, how judges sitting "inches away" from fighters tend to screw up. It is a reoccurring theme in boxing. However, we have the video EVIDENCE that they fucked up, so, AGAIN, what exactly was wrong with the evidence. You have again failed to deal with it. Know why? Cause you don't want to. Just like the Kennedy shooting. People said, "well the authorities said he was killed by Oswald, and that's good enough for me." But then we have the Zapruder film. Hmm, this is the same thing
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon Your man LOST he was BEATEN,live with it,move on,even he himself has,stop embarrasing yourself,please,ITS PATHETIC.Its like someone whose been dumped by his girlfriend,still calling her ,begging following her around,ITS PATHETIC man! have some self respect,accept reality and move on,stop humiliating yourself!!Hopkins himself would tell you the same!!MOVE ON!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
ha, ha, ha. I knew it. You have no legitimate argument AGAINST the video you saw, so you resort to calling me Pathetic (adhominum attacks). ha, ha, ha. I've already won the argument. I love it. Secondly, if you could make a video showing Pascal won, then why not do it? I'd watch it, and if he actually won the fight, then I'd agree with you. I SAW piddy-pat missed punches by Calzaghe with my OWN eyes in Slow-mo. How he was awarded the fight is the 9th wonder of the world. A mystery.
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon wonder nothing,Hopkins got his ass whup,simple as that,man the fuck up and live with it,he has!!hahahaha
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
ha, ha, you should get your ass whupped cause you can't fathom that a person got robbed. Admit it, Calzaghe is a girl, fights like a girl, lost the fight, and refused to fight Hopkins again. Hmm, that says something about the people on the other side of the Atlantic. Big talkers, but scardy cats. Big LOL!!! Why didn't Calzaghe want Hopkins again? He's a chicken. ha, ha, ha,
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon you only ask for a rematch when you KNOW you've been beat!!!LOL
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@Nonpeon One thing about the boxing ring,its a place of truth,you will always get EXACTLY what you deserve!and you can cry and bitch and make all the bullshit videos you like,but in your heart you will KNOW thats EXACTLY what i deserved!Like Joe Louis said,you can run but you cant hide!There is nowhere more truthful than the ring!!When Ali lost the 1st fight to Frazier,for years and years he cried and moaned,i was robbed,they were racist blah blah,today he simply says yes He beat me!thats all!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
Wrong again. Damn, you just can't get it right, can you. You don't ALWAYS get exactly what you deserve in the ring, if so, Hopkins wins. There's countless examples of fighters being robbed for you to make such a bonehead statement like that. And please don't sully Joe Louis' name with your silly arguments. You're just trying to sound eloquent, which is equivalent to Eddie Murphy speaking at a White House press conference. LOL!! Ali - Frazier. LOL!! Wait, Calzaghe is Frazier. LOL!!!
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon Hopkins was outmuscled,outhustled,outpunched,outthought,outfought,out every single thing!!Calzaghe literally drained him,He had no idea how to handle this guy,nothing he did worked,and Calzaghe kept coming like a nightmare,even a knockdown counlnt stop him?like Ali,it might take you 30yrs,but the truth hits everybody,even some loser in denial on youtube.I bet your life is full of this too,you're probably still calling every girl who ever dumped you,begging?screaming,it didnt happen!LOL
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee
What fight were you watching? Oh, you must mean Tyson vs Berbick. Hopkins certainly wasn't outmuscled as he hurt Calzaghe at least 3 times, knocking him down once. He wasn't hurt AT ALL. Throwing more punches AND MISSING doesn't count as being outpunched. Oh, I forgot that if you miss punches, YOU count them. LOL!! Hopkins is a counter puncher, so he doesn't lead. The only criticism I have of him is that he should have knocked the bum out earlier, but he was winning, so irrelevant.
Nonpeon 6 months ago
@Nonpeon YOU ARE PATHETIC,Bernard Hopkins is not,YOU ARE!!show some self respect,be a man,stop being deperate,get up off your knees,accept reality,man up and move on!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@Nonpeon You look Pathetic,you sound pathetic,your whole case is pathetic,The spineless weak desperate arguement of a sore loser who cannot accept reality!Be a man,accept reality,You will get much more respect trust me!You're Pathetic,spineless,and weak,MOVE ON!!Grow up,Grow a pair,Take your beating,be a man,get up off your knees,stop grasping at straws,dont be so desperate!desperation is the worst scent in the world,it will turn EVERYONE off you,even Hopkins himself,get a life and MOVE ON!!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee Dont know why ur talking like u two have had a fight, ya both a couple of nobheads lol, u have different opnions grow up and move, u pair off tarts, lol
3eethr 6 months ago
@3eethr The difference is,i can accept reality!!!im not a pathetic sore loser who makes bullshit crybaby excuses!!when my mans beat,i take it shake hands and move on,i dont winge with bullshit videos and so forth.We all have our fave fighters,they are human,sometimes they get beat,we take it and move on,Simple,thats what warriors do.Excuses are for your mum,no one else wants to hear that bullshit!and thats the truth Ruth!!its not opinion,its FACT!
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
@onlyjoetee u really are an arogant arse lol, ur wrd is fact cos u say it is, get te fuck! lol, and try boxing b4 u talk about being a warrior (LOL) im gussing ur a boxing fan who watches loads of fights but never even sparred (let alone had a bout) in ya life grow a pair b4 u talk bout bein somin u aint, lol
3eethr 6 months ago