Never debate a muslim scholar if you don't have your facts and understanding of the subject right! Nonie and Walid look like fools and the audience can judge who is wrong or right. But most important, Allah will be the ultimate judge. Good job Mr Fadel. Allahuakbar 3X
allahs' names: the most proud the one who causes afflction the destroyer the great deceiver the one who causes death the afflictor the king of the multitude and of the demons islam gives nothing: no salvation no hope no relationship with god no peace no respect for life no life no help no healing completely nothing!!! For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
When this guy got to the end of his rebuttal he moaned about not having time to refute all of Shoebat and Darwish's claims; yet he spent about half of his speaking time making jokes about what some person said on a crowded German train platform. Surely if he really wanted to refute their claims he would have got to the point and challenged the claims one by one - instead he chose to make jokes. Could it be that he had no answer and so wanted to appear funny and cool? Smokescreen anyone?
Those scums Walid Shoebat and Noni Darwish would never properly debate a muslim because it is clear from this video that they are incompetent, their points were weak as feather, they are lairs and they are PAID to lie!!!They go on fox news and all kinds of christian channels with their rubbish to make a buck, impressive, they get paid over $13,000 for a talk, image that... how much would they pay a muslim to explain to you exactly the pure message of his religion, ZERO, you demonise him or her.
@SPANISHBITE calling people names like 'scum' weakens your argument. It is not necessary to insult anyone if your point is valid. As for being paid to speak- I am not sure that there are many people that would appear on Fox News for free! As for Shoebat's speaking fee- do you have proof of the amount or are you just plucking numbers out of the air?
I almost lost faith in the credibility of Walid Shoebat after viewing CNN's Anderson Cooper 360. According to Cooper, Walid was never in jail, was never a terrorist, never gave thousands of dollars to persecuted Christians, etc. It sounded so plausible, as though CNN did their homework. If you fell for the same trap, READ ROBERT SPENCER'S DEVASTATING CRITIQUE OF THE CNN EXPOSE' TITLED "ANDERSON COOPER IS A FRAUD, WALID IS NOT." COOPER SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON.
1st, Kab bin al-Ashraf never actually set out or plan to set out to kill the prophet. 2nd, the neo-nazis and KKK get away with calling for racial holy war all the time. as long as they don't publicly mention specific locations, dates, or operational plans, its not illegal. yet they do psyche their followers up as well. 3rd the islamic concept of war, has such a broad meaning for who can be considered a combatant that simply sympathizing w/ the enemy makes a person a target.
@antoniopooper The Meccans wanted Muhammad dead for having a new Idea as well. The point is poetry back then was the war cry and motivator of aggression and hostility. Poetry today is not the same as poetry back then. They didnt just criticize Muhammad, they called for punishment of Muslims, the death of the Prophet and ill treatment of all the Muslims in Mecca including complete abandonment from food,water, crops and merchants. Read chapter 109 for freedom of speech.
the poetry of back then w/c u describe sounds alot like the hate speech used by white supremacists in america who call for the racial holy war. however, thats not enough justification for us to kill them. therefore the u.s. constitution has more mercy than the quran.
@antoniopooper The only reason they were killed was because when they cried out for war and psyched their armies up against Muhammad they actualy SET OUT to kill the prophet and persecute Muslims, so that poetry had the effect of action. We know no one can get away with that today, so theres no link with the American Constitution and the Islamic concept of war.
Islam can not put it in a place of hatred or intolerance , simply because there is no fundamentalism in Islam .. The word fundamentalist only a word alien to Islam Culture, Because this description carries negative and bad connotations for this fabricated to Islam. The term fundamentalist is in Christianity by race . You visit this site to be sure:
@proudmuslim10 This man is very smart ,He's a example to me .. Has managed with his intelligence to overcome on their cunning. For Jhadwatch site it's only propaganda just like any other sites biased against Islam. Also visit this site:
process that indoctrinates masses in unison in order to convert them to
become seekers of salvation by DEATH in order to establish an Islamic
theocracy where sharia law takes over all laws of society in which Islam &
Muslims are Dominant and non-muslims are Subservient.
i dont hate the muslim people in fact i like the desert culture with beautiful clothing pattern that the women make, the great hospitality shown I just hate the
I'm sorry, where is the exposing and defeating of Nonie Darwish and Walid Shoebat? This is all a one sided monologue. I'm not convinced at all by Mr. Fadel's words, specially because many other muslims keep contradicting his words with facts (acts of terrorism, pakistani muslim pimps in Darby UK,...)
They are simply sycko, and everery body that are not muslim in USA are sleeping quite well. What are you waiting americans to stand up, and stop this. You dont have years before its too late, but barely months. GET UP, STAND UP, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!!!
They are simply sycko, and everery body that are not muslim in USA are sleeping quite well. What are you waiting americans to stand up, and stop this. You dont have years before its too late, but barely months. GET UP, STAND UP, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!!!
Both Nonie and Walid got their citizenship via proclaiming apostasy and asylum> of course they know or pretend not to know their former religion and in context which the verses appear. Money and false freedom!
A thinking brain cannot take ANY man as God or vice versa, or magical miracles etc etc. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
@tommikins1 lol how do you explain millions of muslims obtaining visas? the failed subway and times square bombings are home grown muslims with american citizenship.
read the Quran ,what did Muhammad benefit from it if he wrote it as you claim?
we are not even called Muhammadanians after him to make him famous, the words "Moses, Jesus, and Mariam" is mentioned in the Quran more than the word "Muhammad"
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ رَسُولٌ
"and Muhammad is nothing but a messenger" - Al Imran verse 144
The bottom line is this. If non-muslims, do not wish to live by shariah, we must actively denounce islam wherever it springs up, otherwise, those of us who profess, and publicly prosyletize the faith, will be subjugated according to islam. Unless we convert, which most of us most definately will not, or feel ourselves subdued, which most of us definately will not, so what is left to us? To be killed by the swords of muhammads followers? Am I supposed to feel comforted by this? Fuck muhammad.
@particle58 You are a degenerate who doesnt know what you are talking about. Sharia Law applies to Muslims and not kafr's such as yourself. Muhammad(pbuh) never spread Islam by a sword he only defended Islam and his followers from oppression and torture by people who thought just as you think. Who cares if you become Muslim or not? We dont. God is the only one who can make someone Muslim. Your services are not needed amonst us Muslims. Your rhetoric is similiar to Neo Nazi gibberish.
@AhmedAbdullah101 I know exactly what im talking about friend, and you do too. You just hate the fact that people like me arent blind to your totalitarian religion that would have christian missionaries and apostles killed if they were found to be ministering among muslims. People like you just hate the fact that there are people who exist who actively reject your garbage prophet and the message that he spread by KILLING Jews and Christians who refused to submit to him.
@particle58 As I stated before I dont care if you reject it or accept it because your not hurting me or helping me by becoming Muslim or not becoming Muslim. You seem to not understand your own language. Christianity was spread by the sword and thats a historical fact. What your saying is not historical. Christians are the only faith who would kill people who didnt believe what they believed and also would kill other Christians for following the true teaching of Christ and not the trinity. TRUTH
@AhmedAbdullah101 Muhammad was nothing but an ishmaelite pagan turned false prophet. Do you know why he killed Christians and Jews? An act that alone determines he is not a prophet from our God, YHWH? He killed them, because they wouldnt accept his prophethood, nor would they pay him his jizya/shakedown, nor would they submit to his rule, so he killed them. Muhammad sent letters to the Persian Emperor and to the Byzantine Emperor, demanding they accept islam, or face war, guess what happened?
Let me ask you a question: Why has Islam been dormant for centuries but all of a sudden, across the turn of the century, have decided to rise up in arms and declare they want to rule the world? Why didn't you know anything about Islam before 9/11? And if those Muslims come over and exercise stealth jihad why aren't they exercising stealth jihad in the 50+ Muslim-majority secular countries? No liberal-minded non-practising Muslims in your mind?
@JunnyICurosi I didnt know anything about islam prior to 9/11? How old do you think I am? Any Christian, educated in eschatology, has known about Islam for a very, very, very long time. Islam has laid dormant for centuries? You mean since the defeat of the Caliphate in WW1? Which lead to the reestablishment of Israel? You mean the Caliphate Islamists worldwide are actively trying to reconstitute with the ambition to destroy Israel? Ego + Ignorance = Arrogant Stupidity.
@particle58 Fadel is so knowledgable and accurate on islam. If u still want to believe that fake nonie, then your still deluded about islam.... how much more evidence from the scriptures would you like?
This arrogant loudmouth is saying mohammad said one should not kill. The prophet was a murderer, a child abuser, and a killer of innocent people. Religious dogma and myth are all lies and bullshit, and not worth a pig's fart. Believers have to try hard to convince themselves to take religious bullshit as factual realities. This is a form of psychosis.....mental illness, denial of blatant reality and logic, and reason.
Christians of The West worship a Middle Eastern man THEY named Jesus. Christians of the Middle East do not know the western name Jesus and the only name they know for God is Allah and Christians of the West do not believe Allah is their God. Christians in Indonesia and Malaysia call God Allah even though they do not speak Arabic. If there is one thing Christians could agree on, wouldn’t that be a universal name for God who is the only ONE universal and beyond universal?!
Islam is from Satan. In the end, Islam will be destroyed by the ONLY TRUE GOD, JESUS, JEHOVAH, who will come down from Heaven and rule the world! Amen. Death and destruction to Fadel and all the muslim lying agents of Satan! Those who represent the sorcerer called mohammed, married to a catholic witch, and who had a personal encounter with Satan!
even the muslim terrorists dont rape women and childrem whereas the normal decent non muslim would have it on his top list in a war...you non muslims are the scum of the earth
Fadel - master of lies and deception...taqqiya....he mentions Bosnia.....dont forget how you jihadists forcibly converted Christians and made their descendants worse than the jihadists....
@RomiosHellas who is forcibly converting thousand of Christians is America and European Union today. Anyone who is striving for the truth is bound to end up as Muslim. If it was forcible conversions than there would be no original Arab Christian left 1400 hundred years after Islam originated. In fact there are over 14 million of them who are living with Arabs for generations.
@EnlightenedShqiptar - I note you have "Healing the ties with Greek community". well done. if i am a Tosk then Tosks are Greeks. of course, they are as Epirus and Arbanon is known as "old Greece." anyway, leave that aside. i agree with you re those Greeks who support Muslims. not smart - and I do tell them. but also not smart that 80% of Albanians are Muslims. the rest of you should be telling that they are traitors.
Purchase 3 genuine translations of the Koran, buy all of the Saheeh's, buy a book on Fiqh, Shari'ah and read a few books on Islamic philosophy. Of course, this task will take a few years, but if you're (like Christ) an inquirer of truth, you would discard far-right fearmongering neo-con nonsense and scrutinize the religion HONESTLY. Are you game?
@JunnyICurosi dont need your fake translations and i dont need your taqqiya. ive read enough translations. plus i see the actions of mohamedans around the world. see jihadwatch.
My people perish due to ignorance (lack of knowledge).
Islam in muslim minority states teaches peace but teaches intolerance to non-believers & reverters in muslim majority states. Eg Northern Nigeria (muslim majority) suffers frequent religious clashes but southern nigeria (muslim minority) experiences peaceful aspect of islam.
I would advice young muslims to visit muslim majority states and learn more about Islam's dealings with reverters & infidels b4 debating
@moe12336 Is this the sort of empty triumphalist nonsense Islam has taught you? All you saw was a one sided monologue and not both sides of the debate. In this video Walid Shoebat appears relaxed and if anything, unimpressed. Probably for the same reason I'd be unimpressed: Taqqiya isn't impressive.
@Keruaran taqqya ? where can we find taqqya : shiite or sunnite ? how much represent chiite and sunnite in the entire muslim community ? You have the proof you dont know what you are talking about.
@heavenseeker5 I said taqqiya isn't impressive in relation to this video. Therefore what I'm talking about should be self explanitory. But as usual, Muslims have difficulty with common sense.
@Keruaran "I said taqqiya isn't impressive in relation to this video"
Common sense ? Your response doesn't make any sense : how taqqya is it related to this video, when the brother Fadel is sunnite and 90% of muslims are (shiite is a deviant sect of Islam, thus not islam at all)...???
Do your homework's please and stop hating people for your ignorance.
@Keruaran Common sense ? your answer doesn't make any sense : How is taqqya related to the brother Fadel, may God rewards him good, and to the Muslims (sunnite) then ? deviants sects of Islam, aren't= Islam teachings at all. But I know truth annoys you, and you didn't find anything but to say such a claim, so people would mistake taqqya for Islam's teachings.
Stop being driven by your hates towards something you obviously do know nothing. You're just embarrassing yourselves with such comments.
@Keruaran Taqqya, sir isn't an Islamic teaching sir cause you seem so ignorant about Islam that you seem to think Shiite's teachings are Islam (Shiites=10% at most of the muslims, that is if they are muslims), which isn't the cases at all. Anybody in Islam knows that lying is strictly forbidden (cf Quran and sunna).
To makes such a mistake and claiming you know about Islam is just amazingly...hilarious yes that's the appropriate term.
The Qu'ranic basis used for Taqiyya is 3:28 (also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 16:106; 22:78; 40:28).
Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam: “Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream…. Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.”
@Keruaran "Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam: “Taqiyya [deception] is of "
What scholar said that ? Sources please. And then like I said you should know the meaning and the CONTEXT in which the verses were revealed. for example look the cases of Ammar B. Yasir, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, p.
You're just copy pasting idiotically. Read the link entirely and respond then.
Al-Tabari, regarding 3:28, writes: “If you [Muslim] are under their [infidels’] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them…. Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers—except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them.”
Ibn Kathir writes, “Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels’] evil, may protect himself through outward show.” As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad’s companions: Abu Darda said “Let us smile to the face of some people while our hearts curse them”; while al-Hassan said, “Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity].”
@Keruaran Obviously you are just copy-pasting from islamophobic sites without knowing much about the meaning and most importantly the context of these Hadiths etc...(oh btw put me the sources of the two last ones...).
This is from the Genesis chapter: When the Egyptians see you, they will say, 'This is his wife.' Then they will kill me but will let you live.
Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.” [Genesis 12:12-13 NIV]
@heavenseeker5 What a disgrace. I gave you direct quotes from the likes of Al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir and you want to talk nonsense about "islamophobic" sites. Don't insult my intelligence.
@Keruaran And I gave you the explanation of the quotes, that it seems you dont know much about it. You cant interpret from your brain in the way that's convenient for you so you can spite you idiocy and hates.
About the posts I deleted it is the same one without a grammatical errors, you're really sick in your mind, you should go treats yourselves...
@heavenseeker5 You haven't responded directly to anything I have raised at all. You have assiduously avoided doing so and merely dismissed it as if this material is not already well known to you. You are every bit as disingenuous as every other Muslim I have encountered. A completely insulting time waster.
@Keruaran You have raised : taqqya permits to muslims to lie so we conclude Fadel is just lying blabla...
I demonstrated precisely that you're an hating ignorant idiot, not knowing even something as trivial as this. it's called itdirar (إضطرار) not taqqya like shiites calls it, google it and stop trying to justify the absurd. I'm the one that shouldnt lose time, but I'm not putting it for you, you're empty headed it seems, it is for the readers so they can understand.
@heavenseeker5 I am well aware of what itdirar is. You merely assume I don't. Typically presumptuous and you remain disingenuous. It doesn't matter what you call it, Muslims are engaging in the same behavior worldwide. So don't play false with me and say "Salam" when we both know dar al-Islam remains at war with the world until Sharia is imposed on the unwilling worldwide. Islam creates war and violence and will continue to do so until it subdues or is subdued.
@Keruaran Islam will dominate the world muwahaha, will kill everybody...Meanwhile, the west is just destroying killing our World, people etc...You're just a ridiculous person, I'm amazed how a person can be so dishonest. Say what you want, but scholarly saying, you dont know a thing about Islam, you're just opening your filthy mouth so you can insult people. That's just stupid and show your kind of.
Salam
PS : Salam my ignorant friend is given to all people, especially susceptible people..
@heavenseeker5 In the face of damning indictments you now start posting and deleting comments. Don't spam me with this rubbish and insult me with your "islamophobe" nonsense.
@Keruaran hhhhh look at the end of the link I gave : "Taqiyyah (taqiya, takiya) is not something to be writing home about. To use this practice to brandish Muslims as untrustworthy (or to demonise them) is unscholarly and unjust. If you do encounter an anti-Muslim bigot on the internet crying “taqiyya” (there are plenty about), please do send him/her away educated. "
@Keruaran btw I forgot something important the word taqqya isn't used in the Sunni terminology :
"While Sunnis agree that it is allowed to conceal the faith to protect their lives, they greatly differ with the Shi'a point of view. There is no such terminology as taqiyya in Sunni jurisprudence. Protecting one's belief during extreme or exigent circumstances is called "idtirar" (إضطرار) and this word is not specific to concealing the faith.
@Keruaran For example, one is allowed to consume prohibited or haraam food to protect one's life under the jurisprudence of idtirar. However, in no way does this suggest that this is used as a means to promote the religion. In Sunni theological framework, announcing the truth and being witness for it has great significance. Prominent personalities who announced the truth and went through the hardship for announcing truth are highly revered among Sunnis."
@heavenseeker5 The information I have already provided is solid and easy to fact check. I have no interest in getting into a protracted argument with yet another disingenuous Muslim. As I said from the beginning it doesn't impress me.
@moe12336 whos the liar this guy started his debate with a lie he said that walid said that suicide bombers come from 3/4 of muslim countrys who are occupied BIG DIFFERENCE from what walid really said , 3/4 of suicide bombs are done in muslim countrys which are not occupied ISLAM IS A LIE AND ITS USED TO BRING MORE VIOLENCE AND SUFFERING TO MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH
@elgazar99 wow....a debate! no thanks on being a man after all i am a woman. So you asking me to a debate is useless considering you muslims consider a woman's testimony only half TO that of a man. :P Come to think of it, don't you think what you're asking from me is not only insulting BUT pointless? Let's say i go to a debate, basically we know ur gonna stick to your guns of my word BEING that of a woman. Nice try on setting a trap but why don't u dig one for yourself and lay in it :)
@pitstop85 So why is there a woman on the debate team to the right of Mr. Soliman in the first place? Why did Yvonne Ridley convert to Islam after being held prisoner by the Taliban?
@Imadeyourun: of course you don't practice al taqqiya *shakes head in mock agreement* considering that sunni muslims do CONSIDER the first 4 caliphs as the true muslim successors of muhammad EVEN the one who created your fake koran. and yes, i don't mind if u put me in your imaginary cage lol and for you to say not to practice al taqiya? please lol sunni muslims refer the works and examples of muhammad. you may not lie but ur as fake as ur prophet lol
this guy interprets islam in his way,alqaida interprets in another way,jihad has its own interpretation,islam is very weak because it has no concept of love.love should be superior to all laws and acts.love is over justice.islams love is minimum.i hope moslims interpret islam in this way then many problems will disapear, but the fact is that moslim s majority interprets it in a violent way
Subhan'Allah. The Muslim Brother did very well. I just wish he had more time in his rebuttal to address all the misconceptions. We all need to step up like the Egyptian brother here and do our part for Islam. I pray to Allah that we do. Ameen
what a pity this retarded ideology, gets time and excuses, here in oxford
a inept copy, of the worst of the talmud and the bible, it has the most abhorrent trinity of all, self righteous, self pity, and self hatred,(otherwise why the perpetual
victim mentality).
i repeat laughable drivel, at least darwish/shoebat, didn t have a collection of clapping seals interrupting them
The debate would be more interesting if Muslims would cite actual historical "
Christian terrorist" activities (Crusades, IRA etc.) if the main argument against Islam is its history of violence. The activities of one militant group doesn't necessarily implicate the whole. All Christians would agree on that score.
@gateway596 islam never encouraged violence, and if u talk about history, go back and read history of the west, the crusades,the violance of the athiests in history, the violance of western countries occupying other countries, what was the reason of world war 1 &2? was it so peaceful war?what happened in abu ghraib prison? what israeli did in ghaza and doing everyday to palastenians?u r talking about a great civilization that lasted for 1000 years, where muslims added a lot to science in all
@gateway596 islam never encouraged violence, and if u talk about history, go back and read history of the west, the crusades,the violance of the athiests in history, the violance of western countries occupying other countries, what was the reason of world war 1 &2? was it so peaceful war?what happened in abu ghraib prison? what israeli did in ghaza and doing everyday to palastenians?u r talking about a great civilization that lasted for 1000 years, where muslims added a lot to science in all
May Allah bless you Mr.Fadel of what are you doing to defend Islam against those who trying to distort its view..I'm proud of being a muslim and my Sir is Muhammad peace be upon him.
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them what them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them what them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
@nhwar The debate would be more interesting if Muslims would cite actual historical "
Christian terrorist" activities (Crusades, IRA etc.) if the main argument against Islam is its history of violence. The activities of one militant group doesn't necessarily implicate the whole. All Christians would agree on that score.
fadel forgot to mention that the torah and the bible(old testament and new testament) DO NOT practice abrogation. God never said, "I'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ONE" oh wait..THAT was muhammad lol
@pitstop85: Sunni Muslims don't practice taqqiya. You need to get your facts straight, other wise you are just another parrot that needs to be put back in it's caged. =/
Really Awesome, Rabbena May ALLAH protect you Eng. Fadel and increase your knowledge in Islam more and more and I know that you always rotates around the world i wish to see you at California someday. I will be blessed and honored to absorb some of your terrific knowledge and science too.
isA rabbena ye2addarak aktar w2aktar WE ALL LOVE YOU ENG. FADEL and never skip a video for you!
@5jama what do u mean u dont understand what do u think muhammad did with this 6 years old girl playing babydoll ? or what are u doing in gena with those 300 boys who are verry pretty and sexy according to ur prophet come on man ur prophet was an pevert weak man if he was living at the time of Moses , moses would stoned him to death
@5jama who is Mozes ? and u can keep ur gay prophet muhammad no one wants him this pedo gay weak man
i never won anythink listen boy do u wanna prove that i never won if u where next to me u wuld pray for mercy like ur gay prophet gonna ask for forgiveness one day
@5jama listen lil boy i do know who is the prophet Mose (Moses)
and not Mozes and the only think u can do is just keep talking trash
so dont scribe to me im not interested and ur gay muhammad was never a prophet and will never be one so go and worship ur buddha like ur famili did before haha a guy from india is talking about fighting u was concoured by almost every nation so shut up abdul
what is freedom of speech? i f i call your mother a whore thats frredom of speech?
no sir its hurt full and it should not be said. we muslims only request to not to make joke on our prophet muhammad (pbuh). if you have problem with islam then say it in a manner which is not hurt full to us. and plz do not spread hate this world is already fucked up. lets get toghater and save this world from hunger. iam a muslim and i dont hate christians and jews.
These clips (1-4) don't show Shoebat speaking. So how can you say he is "exposed" in this debate? Sorry, but Shoebat wins by default for not being allowed to speak. It's the American way.
Insects like that dont have the intelligence to hurt anyone
I have the truth on my side if you trashpeople dont believe
in god than go worship the cows or something.
You were the one saying 'O I study psychology and bleble' like you have the
quality to study anything you trash your people are just the trash of the earth
all u can do is talk and even when u talk u sound like crap, so get educated for real, because all this shows is that u dont even have a clue of what u study
i agree with u bad ppl are everywhere but did the Bible teach that ? for sure no
but what about ur pedo prophet muhammad what did he done to 3aisha
and what is the promis of ur saten "god" allah about what u will get in gena 72 virgins and 300 boys ? i mean come on man u dont care about rapeing children b cuz 1 day u will be urself one in gena if u arent yet one
ok...what happened to the debate...no Q&A session? Anyone who uses humor in a debate is either trying to divert attention from the real questions or nervous! Disappointing debate!
Where is Walid Shoe Bat now infront of this man who know Arabic...Of course Walid has to shut up because this guy would crush him and his lies. Jihad means ot defend yourself only and it never says just kill anyone or Christians or Jews so we can see that Waild Shoe is nothing but a shoe and a liar.
The salvation is not through other religions or through jesus.
The salvation is through the church. Gods blessed church!
Catholiqum 1 week ago
Never debate a muslim scholar if you don't have your facts and understanding of the subject right! Nonie and Walid look like fools and the audience can judge who is wrong or right. But most important, Allah will be the ultimate judge. Good job Mr Fadel. Allahuakbar 3X
ellahmzh 2 months ago
Malwina77ful 3 months ago
When this guy got to the end of his rebuttal he moaned about not having time to refute all of Shoebat and Darwish's claims; yet he spent about half of his speaking time making jokes about what some person said on a crowded German train platform. Surely if he really wanted to refute their claims he would have got to the point and challenged the claims one by one - instead he chose to make jokes. Could it be that he had no answer and so wanted to appear funny and cool? Smokescreen anyone?
pilotsvoice 4 months ago
Those scums Walid Shoebat and Noni Darwish would never properly debate a muslim because it is clear from this video that they are incompetent, their points were weak as feather, they are lairs and they are PAID to lie!!!They go on fox news and all kinds of christian channels with their rubbish to make a buck, impressive, they get paid over $13,000 for a talk, image that... how much would they pay a muslim to explain to you exactly the pure message of his religion, ZERO, you demonise him or her.
SPANISHBITE 5 months ago 8
@SPANISHBITE calling people names like 'scum' weakens your argument. It is not necessary to insult anyone if your point is valid. As for being paid to speak- I am not sure that there are many people that would appear on Fox News for free! As for Shoebat's speaking fee- do you have proof of the amount or are you just plucking numbers out of the air?
pilotsvoice 4 months ago
Even better than Robert Spencer's critique of the CNN expose is this YouYube video: "
"A 180 on Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN's Agenda-Driven Journalism Against Walid Shoebat "
Uluwatusunrise 6 months ago
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I almost lost faith in the credibility of Walid Shoebat after viewing CNN's Anderson Cooper 360. According to Cooper, Walid was never in jail, was never a terrorist, never gave thousands of dollars to persecuted Christians, etc. It sounded so plausible, as though CNN did their homework. If you fell for the same trap, READ ROBERT SPENCER'S DEVASTATING CRITIQUE OF THE CNN EXPOSE' TITLED "ANDERSON COOPER IS A FRAUD, WALID IS NOT." COOPER SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON.
Uluwatusunrise 6 months ago
1st, Kab bin al-Ashraf never actually set out or plan to set out to kill the prophet. 2nd, the neo-nazis and KKK get away with calling for racial holy war all the time. as long as they don't publicly mention specific locations, dates, or operational plans, its not illegal. yet they do psyche their followers up as well. 3rd the islamic concept of war, has such a broad meaning for who can be considered a combatant that simply sympathizing w/ the enemy makes a person a target.
antoniopooper 6 months ago
muhammed has a broad meaning of "combatant". he killed poets who criticized him. so much for freedom of speech.
antoniopooper 7 months ago
@antoniopooper The Meccans wanted Muhammad dead for having a new Idea as well. The point is poetry back then was the war cry and motivator of aggression and hostility. Poetry today is not the same as poetry back then. They didnt just criticize Muhammad, they called for punishment of Muslims, the death of the Prophet and ill treatment of all the Muslims in Mecca including complete abandonment from food,water, crops and merchants. Read chapter 109 for freedom of speech.
ramio1983 6 months ago
@ramio1983
the poetry of back then w/c u describe sounds alot like the hate speech used by white supremacists in america who call for the racial holy war. however, thats not enough justification for us to kill them. therefore the u.s. constitution has more mercy than the quran.
antoniopooper 6 months ago
@antoniopooper The only reason they were killed was because when they cried out for war and psyched their armies up against Muhammad they actualy SET OUT to kill the prophet and persecute Muslims, so that poetry had the effect of action. We know no one can get away with that today, so theres no link with the American Constitution and the Islamic concept of war.
ramio1983 6 months ago
wow.. waleed shoebat pwned
kamina77 8 months ago
If you wante to know about which religion that spread by the sword and the power : Search Google Images : '
SEDLEK CHURCH '
27megoss 8 months ago
And also think about anti-Semitism, And who are killed 6.000.000 jewish in Holocaust . Is not the racists! ! But who are ? Visit :
ushmm . org/wlc/en/article . php?ModuleId=10005175
zionism-israel . com/dic/Anti-Semitism . htm
And This is enough witness of a Jew for Islam which speaks the truth about islam ,visit :
zope . gush-shalom . org/home/en/channels/avnery/1159094813/
27megoss 8 months ago
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visit this site to be sure:
britannica . com/EBchecked/topic/222234/Christian-fundamentalism
britannica . com/EBchecked/topic/1191955/fundamentalism/252668/Islamic-fundamentalism?anchor=ref883320
huffingtonpost . com/shannyn-moore/christian-fundamentalist_b_209521.html
27megoss 8 months ago
Islam can not put it in a place of hatred or intolerance , simply because there is no fundamentalism in Islam .. The word fundamentalist only a word alien to Islam Culture, Because this description carries negative and bad connotations for this fabricated to Islam. The term fundamentalist is in Christianity by race . You visit this site to be sure:
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27megoss 8 months ago
@proudmuslim10 This man is very smart ,He's a example to me .. Has managed with his intelligence to overcome on their cunning. For Jhadwatch site it's only propaganda just like any other sites biased against Islam. Also visit this site:
Loonwatch . com/2010/04/the-christian-terrorists-amongst-us/
27megoss 8 months ago
Islam is not a peaceful religion, .. a cult like
process that indoctrinates masses in unison in order to convert them to
become seekers of salvation by DEATH in order to establish an Islamic
theocracy where sharia law takes over all laws of society in which Islam &
Muslims are Dominant and non-muslims are Subservient.
i dont hate the muslim people in fact i like the desert culture with beautiful clothing pattern that the women make, the great hospitality shown I just hate the
ideology
dieseluvin 9 months ago
I'm sorry, where is the exposing and defeating of Nonie Darwish and Walid Shoebat? This is all a one sided monologue. I'm not convinced at all by Mr. Fadel's words, specially because many other muslims keep contradicting his words with facts (acts of terrorism, pakistani muslim pimps in Darby UK,...)
Ava365 9 months ago
"The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him" - Proverbs 18:17
Where is the debate? Where is the cross examination? There is no exposing here, just a one sided monologue.
Keruaran 9 months ago
wauw this guy is GREAT!!
geennaamgevonden 9 months ago
this guy talk about mohammad and truth, but theres this guy in Quran asking muhammad if he can lie? muhammad said yes. contradiction?
LePetitGrosse 10 months ago
@LePetitGrosse Quote ?
snaforfun 9 months ago
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They are simply sycko, and everery body that are not muslim in USA are sleeping quite well. What are you waiting americans to stand up, and stop this. You dont have years before its too late, but barely months. GET UP, STAND UP, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!!!
liduq 11 months ago
They are simply sycko, and everery body that are not muslim in USA are sleeping quite well. What are you waiting americans to stand up, and stop this. You dont have years before its too late, but barely months. GET UP, STAND UP, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!!!
liduq 11 months ago
Both Nonie and Walid got their citizenship via proclaiming apostasy and asylum> of course they know or pretend not to know their former religion and in context which the verses appear. Money and false freedom!
A thinking brain cannot take ANY man as God or vice versa, or magical miracles etc etc. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
tommikins1 11 months ago
@tommikins1 lol how do you explain millions of muslims obtaining visas? the failed subway and times square bombings are home grown muslims with american citizenship.
LePetitGrosse 10 months ago
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can anyone judge a message without reading it ?
read the Quran ,what did Muhammad benefit from it if he wrote it as you claim?
we are not even called Muhammadanians after him to make him famous, the words "Moses, Jesus, and Mariam" is mentioned in the Quran more than the word "Muhammad"
وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ رَسُولٌ
"and Muhammad is nothing but a messenger" - Al Imran verse 144
0marAboSamra 11 months ago
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0marAboSamra 11 months ago
The bottom line is this. If non-muslims, do not wish to live by shariah, we must actively denounce islam wherever it springs up, otherwise, those of us who profess, and publicly prosyletize the faith, will be subjugated according to islam. Unless we convert, which most of us most definately will not, or feel ourselves subdued, which most of us definately will not, so what is left to us? To be killed by the swords of muhammads followers? Am I supposed to feel comforted by this? Fuck muhammad.
particle58 11 months ago
@particle58 You are a degenerate who doesnt know what you are talking about. Sharia Law applies to Muslims and not kafr's such as yourself. Muhammad(pbuh) never spread Islam by a sword he only defended Islam and his followers from oppression and torture by people who thought just as you think. Who cares if you become Muslim or not? We dont. God is the only one who can make someone Muslim. Your services are not needed amonst us Muslims. Your rhetoric is similiar to Neo Nazi gibberish.
AhmedAbdullah101 10 months ago
@AhmedAbdullah101 I know exactly what im talking about friend, and you do too. You just hate the fact that people like me arent blind to your totalitarian religion that would have christian missionaries and apostles killed if they were found to be ministering among muslims. People like you just hate the fact that there are people who exist who actively reject your garbage prophet and the message that he spread by KILLING Jews and Christians who refused to submit to him.
particle58 10 months ago
@particle58 As I stated before I dont care if you reject it or accept it because your not hurting me or helping me by becoming Muslim or not becoming Muslim. You seem to not understand your own language. Christianity was spread by the sword and thats a historical fact. What your saying is not historical. Christians are the only faith who would kill people who didnt believe what they believed and also would kill other Christians for following the true teaching of Christ and not the trinity. TRUTH
AhmedAbdullah101 10 months ago
@AhmedAbdullah101 Muhammad was nothing but an ishmaelite pagan turned false prophet. Do you know why he killed Christians and Jews? An act that alone determines he is not a prophet from our God, YHWH? He killed them, because they wouldnt accept his prophethood, nor would they pay him his jizya/shakedown, nor would they submit to his rule, so he killed them. Muhammad sent letters to the Persian Emperor and to the Byzantine Emperor, demanding they accept islam, or face war, guess what happened?
particle58 10 months ago
@particle58 A little paranoid, are we?
Let me ask you a question: Why has Islam been dormant for centuries but all of a sudden, across the turn of the century, have decided to rise up in arms and declare they want to rule the world? Why didn't you know anything about Islam before 9/11? And if those Muslims come over and exercise stealth jihad why aren't they exercising stealth jihad in the 50+ Muslim-majority secular countries? No liberal-minded non-practising Muslims in your mind?
JunnyICurosi 10 months ago
@JunnyICurosi I didnt know anything about islam prior to 9/11? How old do you think I am? Any Christian, educated in eschatology, has known about Islam for a very, very, very long time. Islam has laid dormant for centuries? You mean since the defeat of the Caliphate in WW1? Which lead to the reestablishment of Israel? You mean the Caliphate Islamists worldwide are actively trying to reconstitute with the ambition to destroy Israel? Ego + Ignorance = Arrogant Stupidity.
particle58 10 months ago
Walid is a fucking BADASS! Keep it up Walid and Nonie, May God bless you!!!!
particle58 11 months ago
@particle58 Fadel is so knowledgable and accurate on islam. If u still want to believe that fake nonie, then your still deluded about islam.... how much more evidence from the scriptures would you like?
TheTopper2010 11 months ago
LOOOOOL WALID SHOEBAT OWNED HIM !!!!!!
ledgendgoku1 11 months ago
@ledgendgoku1 How please?
Kimikimer 11 months ago
i think this debate was before Iraqi war,,? some one confirm me,,?
amirzubairmughal 11 months ago
@amirzubairmughal it was in 2009 ..in the description
saraliciousgirl 11 months ago
This arrogant loudmouth is saying mohammad said one should not kill. The prophet was a murderer, a child abuser, and a killer of innocent people. Religious dogma and myth are all lies and bullshit, and not worth a pig's fart. Believers have to try hard to convince themselves to take religious bullshit as factual realities. This is a form of psychosis.....mental illness, denial of blatant reality and logic, and reason.
tijeffe 11 months ago
Walid want to only spread hate and lies. He is like the turd i shit every morning.
gosillygirl 11 months ago
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Please talk science and technology to relief humanity on pimitivity. And not trival issues of Religion
ipadibi 1 year ago
Great answers by the brother. Mashallah truth be told and truth shall stand clear from error.
MankindisOnekind 1 year ago
@ arabfreak: there's a woman BECAUSE SHE'S NOT IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY.....and Ridley can be explained by you reading THE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
pitstop85 1 year ago
Mashallah and may Allah give this man best from this world and hereafter. This is yet and example of the verse of Quran (17:81)
And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish."
mysupermail 1 year ago 3
Christians of The West worship a Middle Eastern man THEY named Jesus. Christians of the Middle East do not know the western name Jesus and the only name they know for God is Allah and Christians of the West do not believe Allah is their God. Christians in Indonesia and Malaysia call God Allah even though they do not speak Arabic. If there is one thing Christians could agree on, wouldn’t that be a universal name for God who is the only ONE universal and beyond universal?!
ozone02 1 year ago
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The whole truth and nothing but the truth,
mdhalum 1 year ago
Islam is from Satan. In the end, Islam will be destroyed by the ONLY TRUE GOD, JESUS, JEHOVAH, who will come down from Heaven and rule the world! Amen. Death and destruction to Fadel and all the muslim lying agents of Satan! Those who represent the sorcerer called mohammed, married to a catholic witch, and who had a personal encounter with Satan!
ponchorhino 1 year ago
@ponchorhino
even the muslim terrorists dont rape women and childrem whereas the normal decent non muslim would have it on his top list in a war...you non muslims are the scum of the earth
X1REME 1 year ago
@ponchorhino
no he will not come down we all remember how it went for him the last time! that nigga can´t protect himself without god ahahhaha
courtesy55 1 year ago
Fadel - master of lies and deception...taqqiya....he mentions Bosnia.....dont forget how you jihadists forcibly converted Christians and made their descendants worse than the jihadists....
RomiosHellas 1 year ago
@RomiosHellas who is forcibly converting thousand of Christians is America and European Union today. Anyone who is striving for the truth is bound to end up as Muslim. If it was forcible conversions than there would be no original Arab Christian left 1400 hundred years after Islam originated. In fact there are over 14 million of them who are living with Arabs for generations.
mysupermail 1 year ago
@mysupermail read islamic history. islam - of the devil - was spread by the sword. read jihadwatch
RomiosHellas 1 year ago
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EnlightenedShqiptar 1 year ago
@EnlightenedShqiptar - I note you have "Healing the ties with Greek community". well done. if i am a Tosk then Tosks are Greeks. of course, they are as Epirus and Arbanon is known as "old Greece." anyway, leave that aside. i agree with you re those Greeks who support Muslims. not smart - and I do tell them. but also not smart that 80% of Albanians are Muslims. the rest of you should be telling that they are traitors.
RomiosHellas 1 year ago
@RomiosHellas Jhadwatch is for mindless fools like you.
gosillygirl 11 months ago
@gosillygirl better researched than anything else. u silly fool.
RomiosHellas 11 months ago
@RomiosHellas Here's a swell idea.
Purchase 3 genuine translations of the Koran, buy all of the Saheeh's, buy a book on Fiqh, Shari'ah and read a few books on Islamic philosophy. Of course, this task will take a few years, but if you're (like Christ) an inquirer of truth, you would discard far-right fearmongering neo-con nonsense and scrutinize the religion HONESTLY. Are you game?
JunnyICurosi 10 months ago
@JunnyICurosi dont need your fake translations and i dont need your taqqiya. ive read enough translations. plus i see the actions of mohamedans around the world. see jihadwatch.
RomiosHellas 10 months ago
@mysupermail
Yeah, the bible says many Christians will be fooled into following the anti-Christ and fall away to his evil teachings.
Curveball 1 year ago
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Criminal JEWS are behind the terrorism attacks, only to blame the Muslims.
Watch: "911 Missing Links" "Dancing Israelis on 911" "protocol elder of Zion" "USS Liberty Dead in the Water"
jayezzo 1 year ago
To my beloved young muslims;
My people perish due to ignorance (lack of knowledge).
Islam in muslim minority states teaches peace but teaches intolerance to non-believers & reverters in muslim majority states. Eg Northern Nigeria (muslim majority) suffers frequent religious clashes but southern nigeria (muslim minority) experiences peaceful aspect of islam.
I would advice young muslims to visit muslim majority states and learn more about Islam's dealings with reverters & infidels b4 debating
xtachioma 1 year ago
Masha Allah!!!
xukun0 1 year ago
walied is a liar he dosent know shit hes looking back and fourth he dosent know what to say or what to do hahahhahahahhahhahahahahha
moe12336 1 year ago 3
@moe12336 Is this the sort of empty triumphalist nonsense Islam has taught you? All you saw was a one sided monologue and not both sides of the debate. In this video Walid Shoebat appears relaxed and if anything, unimpressed. Probably for the same reason I'd be unimpressed: Taqqiya isn't impressive.
Keruaran 9 months ago
@Keruaran taqqya ? where can we find taqqya : shiite or sunnite ? how much represent chiite and sunnite in the entire muslim community ? You have the proof you dont know what you are talking about.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago 3
@heavenseeker5 I said taqqiya isn't impressive in relation to this video. Therefore what I'm talking about should be self explanitory. But as usual, Muslims have difficulty with common sense.
Keruaran 8 months ago
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Domna7 8 months ago
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@Keruaran "I said taqqiya isn't impressive in relation to this video"
Common sense ? Your response doesn't make any sense : how taqqya is it related to this video, when the brother Fadel is sunnite and 90% of muslims are (shiite is a deviant sect of Islam, thus not islam at all)...???
Do your homework's please and stop hating people for your ignorance.
Domna7 8 months ago
@Keruaran Common sense ? your answer doesn't make any sense : How is taqqya related to the brother Fadel, may God rewards him good, and to the Muslims (sunnite) then ? deviants sects of Islam, aren't= Islam teachings at all. But I know truth annoys you, and you didn't find anything but to say such a claim, so people would mistake taqqya for Islam's teachings.
Stop being driven by your hates towards something you obviously do know nothing. You're just embarrassing yourselves with such comments.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago 10
@heavenseeker5 Taqqiya *is* an Islamic teaching. It is somehow morbidly hilarious that you would make such a denial.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Taqqya, sir isn't an Islamic teaching sir cause you seem so ignorant about Islam that you seem to think Shiite's teachings are Islam (Shiites=10% at most of the muslims, that is if they are muslims), which isn't the cases at all. Anybody in Islam knows that lying is strictly forbidden (cf Quran and sunna).
To makes such a mistake and claiming you know about Islam is just amazingly...hilarious yes that's the appropriate term.
Do you homework please.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5
The Qu'ranic basis used for Taqiyya is 3:28 (also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 16:106; 22:78; 40:28).
Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam: “Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream…. Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.”
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran "Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam: “Taqiyya [deception] is of "
What scholar said that ? Sources please. And then like I said you should know the meaning and the CONTEXT in which the verses were revealed. for example look the cases of Ammar B. Yasir, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, p.
You're just copy pasting idiotically. Read the link entirely and respond then.
The hole is getting a lot deeper ? loool
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5
Al-Tabari, regarding 3:28, writes: “If you [Muslim] are under their [infidels’] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them…. Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers—except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them.”
Keruaran 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5
Ibn Kathir writes, “Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels’] evil, may protect himself through outward show.” As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad’s companions: Abu Darda said “Let us smile to the face of some people while our hearts curse them”; while al-Hassan said, “Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity].”
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Obviously you are just copy-pasting from islamophobic sites without knowing much about the meaning and most importantly the context of these Hadiths etc...(oh btw put me the sources of the two last ones...).
This is from the Genesis chapter: When the Egyptians see you, they will say, 'This is his wife.' Then they will kill me but will let you live.
Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.” [Genesis 12:12-13 NIV]
heavenseeker5 8 months ago 4
@heavenseeker5 What a disgrace. I gave you direct quotes from the likes of Al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir and you want to talk nonsense about "islamophobic" sites. Don't insult my intelligence.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran And I gave you the explanation of the quotes, that it seems you dont know much about it. You cant interpret from your brain in the way that's convenient for you so you can spite you idiocy and hates.
About the posts I deleted it is the same one without a grammatical errors, you're really sick in your mind, you should go treats yourselves...
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 You haven't responded directly to anything I have raised at all. You have assiduously avoided doing so and merely dismissed it as if this material is not already well known to you. You are every bit as disingenuous as every other Muslim I have encountered. A completely insulting time waster.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran You have raised : taqqya permits to muslims to lie so we conclude Fadel is just lying blabla...
I demonstrated precisely that you're an hating ignorant idiot, not knowing even something as trivial as this. it's called itdirar (إضطرار) not taqqya like shiites calls it, google it and stop trying to justify the absurd. I'm the one that shouldnt lose time, but I'm not putting it for you, you're empty headed it seems, it is for the readers so they can understand.
Salam/peace.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 I am well aware of what itdirar is. You merely assume I don't. Typically presumptuous and you remain disingenuous. It doesn't matter what you call it, Muslims are engaging in the same behavior worldwide. So don't play false with me and say "Salam" when we both know dar al-Islam remains at war with the world until Sharia is imposed on the unwilling worldwide. Islam creates war and violence and will continue to do so until it subdues or is subdued.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Islam will dominate the world muwahaha, will kill everybody...Meanwhile, the west is just destroying killing our World, people etc...You're just a ridiculous person, I'm amazed how a person can be so dishonest. Say what you want, but scholarly saying, you dont know a thing about Islam, you're just opening your filthy mouth so you can insult people. That's just stupid and show your kind of.
Salam
PS : Salam my ignorant friend is given to all people, especially susceptible people..
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 You are simply an idiotic troll.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Thx you
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 In the face of damning indictments you now start posting and deleting comments. Don't spam me with this rubbish and insult me with your "islamophobe" nonsense.
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Abraham peace be upon is doing taqqya too ?
You have much to know my friend, what taqqya is :
islamdunktv(dot)com/2011/04/islamophobes-and-taqiyya.(dot)html
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@Keruaran hhhhh look at the end of the link I gave : "Taqiyyah (taqiya, takiya) is not something to be writing home about. To use this practice to brandish Muslims as untrustworthy (or to demonise them) is unscholarly and unjust. If you do encounter an anti-Muslim bigot on the internet crying “taqiyya” (there are plenty about), please do send him/her away educated. "
Hopes for you it is the case :)
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 The hole for you is only getting deeper. Would you like a spade?
Keruaran 8 months ago
@Keruaran Try reading the link I gave you before putting your blabla.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@Keruaran btw I forgot something important the word taqqya isn't used in the Sunni terminology :
"While Sunnis agree that it is allowed to conceal the faith to protect their lives, they greatly differ with the Shi'a point of view. There is no such terminology as taqiyya in Sunni jurisprudence. Protecting one's belief during extreme or exigent circumstances is called "idtirar" (إضطرار) and this word is not specific to concealing the faith.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@Keruaran For example, one is allowed to consume prohibited or haraam food to protect one's life under the jurisprudence of idtirar. However, in no way does this suggest that this is used as a means to promote the religion. In Sunni theological framework, announcing the truth and being witness for it has great significance. Prominent personalities who announced the truth and went through the hardship for announcing truth are highly revered among Sunnis."
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@heavenseeker5 The information I have already provided is solid and easy to fact check. I have no interest in getting into a protracted argument with yet another disingenuous Muslim. As I said from the beginning it doesn't impress me.
Keruaran 8 months ago
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@Keruaran hhhhhh, that's all you found to say after I showed how ignorant you are ? Next time before speaking, do your homework please.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
@moe12336 whos the liar this guy started his debate with a lie he said that walid said that suicide bombers come from 3/4 of muslim countrys who are occupied BIG DIFFERENCE from what walid really said , 3/4 of suicide bombs are done in muslim countrys which are not occupied ISLAM IS A LIE AND ITS USED TO BRING MORE VIOLENCE AND SUFFERING TO MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH
5042024 7 months ago
go on fadel
mashaallah
saifmack 1 year ago
Mahsallah, Jazak Allah Khair for this great defense of Islam and showing the fair point of view. Alhamdulilah, Islam will prevail.
magdyayoub 1 year ago
jazaka allah khyer
ayamen1 1 year ago
The title of the video was a misnomer.
Debmey 1 year ago
He argument has went no where he is just charismatic
ARJones1124 1 year ago
@elgazar99 wow....a debate! no thanks on being a man after all i am a woman. So you asking me to a debate is useless considering you muslims consider a woman's testimony only half TO that of a man. :P Come to think of it, don't you think what you're asking from me is not only insulting BUT pointless? Let's say i go to a debate, basically we know ur gonna stick to your guns of my word BEING that of a woman. Nice try on setting a trap but why don't u dig one for yourself and lay in it :)
pitstop85 1 year ago
@pitstop85 So why is there a woman on the debate team to the right of Mr. Soliman in the first place? Why did Yvonne Ridley convert to Islam after being held prisoner by the Taliban?
arabfreak 1 year ago
@Imadeyourun: of course you don't practice al taqqiya *shakes head in mock agreement* considering that sunni muslims do CONSIDER the first 4 caliphs as the true muslim successors of muhammad EVEN the one who created your fake koran. and yes, i don't mind if u put me in your imaginary cage lol and for you to say not to practice al taqiya? please lol sunni muslims refer the works and examples of muhammad. you may not lie but ur as fake as ur prophet lol
pitstop85 1 year ago
@pitstop85 hey hey hey!! lol !! i'm inviting u to a debate on messages!! can u be a man and accept it? i hope u accept!
elgazar99 1 year ago
this guy interprets islam in his way,alqaida interprets in another way,jihad has its own interpretation,islam is very weak because it has no concept of love.love should be superior to all laws and acts.love is over justice.islams love is minimum.i hope moslims interpret islam in this way then many problems will disapear, but the fact is that moslim s majority interprets it in a violent way
sandmansea 1 year ago
this guy is such a lighweight....he says Muslims just fight to defend themselves???? what a joke....he of course refuses to look at the history
Kbrt111 1 year ago
Subhan'Allah. The Muslim Brother did very well. I just wish he had more time in his rebuttal to address all the misconceptions. We all need to step up like the Egyptian brother here and do our part for Islam. I pray to Allah that we do. Ameen
law2k69 1 year ago
in just a few minutes Shoebat is reduced to a midget...and ms Darwish is a little more than an empty skull..
gongolamboto 1 year ago
what a pity this retarded ideology, gets time and excuses, here in oxford
a inept copy, of the worst of the talmud and the bible, it has the most abhorrent trinity of all, self righteous, self pity, and self hatred,(otherwise why the perpetual
victim mentality).
i repeat laughable drivel, at least darwish/shoebat, didn t have a collection of clapping seals interrupting them
secula4eva 1 year ago
The debate would be more interesting if Muslims would cite actual historical "
Christian terrorist" activities (Crusades, IRA etc.) if the main argument against Islam is its history of violence. The activities of one militant group doesn't necessarily implicate the whole. All Christians would agree on that score.
gateway596 1 year ago
@gateway596 islam never encouraged violence, and if u talk about history, go back and read history of the west, the crusades,the violance of the athiests in history, the violance of western countries occupying other countries, what was the reason of world war 1 &2? was it so peaceful war?what happened in abu ghraib prison? what israeli did in ghaza and doing everyday to palastenians?u r talking about a great civilization that lasted for 1000 years, where muslims added a lot to science in all
MsMahmoo 1 year ago
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@gateway596 islam never encouraged violence, and if u talk about history, go back and read history of the west, the crusades,the violance of the athiests in history, the violance of western countries occupying other countries, what was the reason of world war 1 &2? was it so peaceful war?what happened in abu ghraib prison? what israeli did in ghaza and doing everyday to palastenians?u r talking about a great civilization that lasted for 1000 years, where muslims added a lot to science in all
MsMahmoo 1 year ago
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May Allah bless you Mr.Fadel of what are you doing to defend Islam against those who trying to distort its view..I'm proud of being a muslim and my Sir is Muhammad peace be upon him.
egyarab 1 year ago
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egyarab 1 year ago
wise stand up Egyption guy!
guest8223 1 year ago
for every petty crime they go to UNO , why don't the west go to UNO for investigation of 911.? A holly wood script would be uncovered ?
sound is awful
ok748 1 year ago
for every petty crime they go to UNO , why don't the west go to UNO for investigation of 911.? A holly wood script would be uncovered ?
ok748 1 year ago
this guy is speaking based on the fact, while this woman is speaking from below her belt. She is a good dancer cha cha, tango...you can name them
masamok2 1 year ago
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Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them what them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
nhwar 1 year ago
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Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them what them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
nhwar 1 year ago
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nhwar 1 year ago
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
nhwar 1 year ago
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@nhwar The debate would be more interesting if Muslims would cite actual historical "
Christian terrorist" activities (Crusades, IRA etc.) if the main argument against Islam is its history of violence. The activities of one militant group doesn't necessarily implicate the whole. All Christians would agree on that score.
gateway596 1 year ago
fadel forgot to mention that the torah and the bible(old testament and new testament) DO NOT practice abrogation. God never said, "I'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER ONE" oh wait..THAT was muhammad lol
pitstop85 1 year ago
this fadel guy only proved 2 things:
a) he's not a real muslim
b) if he is, touche for him practicing Al Taqiya
pitstop85 1 year ago
@pitstop85: Sunni Muslims don't practice taqqiya. You need to get your facts straight, other wise you are just another parrot that needs to be put back in it's caged. =/
Imadeyourun 1 year ago
yeah, i'd say fadel smacked that ass in this debate. he did start off with some personal jibes though.
cortedemico 1 year ago
InshAllah, he will guide people through the right path
hamidalmuslim 1 year ago
This guy is great man. Does he lecture in the UK
Nasiruldeen 1 year ago
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a muslim is nothing but a wild man Gen 16:12
1Waddup 1 year ago
yea and its ok to marry a 9 yr old. filthy pedophiles!
malkiFoxX 1 year ago
@malkiFoxX
You shouldn't throw rocks in a glass house my friend, the age limit is a modern thing.
Look back into history, you'll be surprised at how old people actually were.
And just to clarify, a person is of legal age to marry when they are of "sound mind" or otherwise "Mature enough to make decisions on their own"
If you look today, who has the problems of pedophilia?
Think before you throw out remarks next time, for your own good...
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@malkiFoxX read your history buddy.
1MoreMuslim 1 year ago
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DaVoice305 1 year ago
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DaVoice305 1 year ago
Really Awesome, Rabbena May ALLAH protect you Eng. Fadel and increase your knowledge in Islam more and more and I know that you always rotates around the world i wish to see you at California someday. I will be blessed and honored to absorb some of your terrific knowledge and science too.
isA rabbena ye2addarak aktar w2aktar WE ALL LOVE YOU ENG. FADEL and never skip a video for you!
hatemtommy242424 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA SO u agree with me?bad pple are evywhere he says,, how dumb.
I'm sorry I dont know what you re talking about, there is no pedofille in
out religion maybe you re mistaken with your religion,, your people are the only
ones that are doing those kinds of things, christianity is a religion of pedofille,
all it teaches is some dumb trinity story and how to rape childeren
I'll be in gena ishallah, 72 virgins? I bet you people would convert
if someone said you'll get 1000 gay men
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama what do u mean u dont understand what do u think muhammad did with this 6 years old girl playing babydoll ? or what are u doing in gena with those 300 boys who are verry pretty and sexy according to ur prophet come on man ur prophet was an pevert weak man if he was living at the time of Moses , moses would stoned him to death
Martialarts86 1 year ago
I didnt say I dont understand, but I dont know what thats like u tell me
you're the gay person around,, martialarts screw your martial arts bitch
I know u never won anything in your sorry life.
Keep the names of profet mozes(a.s) and muhammed(pbuh) out of your
gay mouth you fag and go suck the pastors dick
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama who is Mozes ? and u can keep ur gay prophet muhammad no one wants him this pedo gay weak man
i never won anythink listen boy do u wanna prove that i never won if u where next to me u wuld pray for mercy like ur gay prophet gonna ask for forgiveness one day
Martialarts86 1 year ago
Hehe U just proved that u really never won a fight. Gay people cant fight anyway
So I'm not surprised u never won a fight.
Next to u? where do u even live little boy?
You dont know what fighting means u re an amature I can tell just
by reading your dumb crap
Muhammed(pbuh) is the LAST OF GODS BELOVED PROFETS.
If u dont know who mozes is then u are even lower poop people
flush down the toilette....
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama listen lil boy i do know who is the prophet Mose (Moses)
and not Mozes and the only think u can do is just keep talking trash
so dont scribe to me im not interested and ur gay muhammad was never a prophet and will never be one so go and worship ur buddha like ur famili did before haha a guy from india is talking about fighting u was concoured by almost every nation so shut up abdul
Martialarts86 1 year ago
@Martialarts86 I'm not even indian nor do I live in India,
A gay dude who doesnt even know the profet Moses(a.s) shouldn t be
talking about fighting let alone calling himself martialarts and then never winning
anything. Its just shamefull for anyone.
Kids in their puberty talk like u so I'm thinking you re one.
If you dont believe in Allah(the only true god) then go worship cows
or something..... I bet My smallest brother could kick your faggot ass,,,
so shut you stinking mouth mr pedofille
5jama 1 year ago
@Martialarts86 Hey gay shit bag, find a shit hole to play in instead of flourishing your ignorance and your nation's morals here
sfinkis 1 year ago
Fadel soliman is the scholar of europe at this time that tries to
smack some sense(with words) into these idiots appearing like parasites
POW, Right on the yapp
5jama 1 year ago
Hahahaha The Bat of the Shoes, and the Wish of the Dark were defeated :D
Destroyticus 1 year ago
what is freedom of speech? i f i call your mother a whore thats frredom of speech?
no sir its hurt full and it should not be said. we muslims only request to not to make joke on our prophet muhammad (pbuh). if you have problem with islam then say it in a manner which is not hurt full to us. and plz do not spread hate this world is already fucked up. lets get toghater and save this world from hunger. iam a muslim and i dont hate christians and jews.
zeeshan8love 1 year ago
@cano21 he spoke in the 2nd vid
shadmahmood 1 year ago
Isalm is a the gift world need
PHARMACISTALAA 1 year ago
These clips (1-4) don't show Shoebat speaking. So how can you say he is "exposed" in this debate? Sorry, but Shoebat wins by default for not being allowed to speak. It's the American way.
cano21 1 year ago
if the american way is that a hypocrite makes use of the ignorance of the american
and to listen to dumb talks and blanck out th truth, then yes she would win.
she spoke and didnt let anyone else speak while she was talking, watch the video
better before talking this nonsense, btw the american way is just the ignorant way of following blind urges
5jama 1 year ago
This guy is brainwashed ...pighead
mainufo 1 year ago
where does walid were exposed ? this guy only tells storys with no proves
walid kicket him down
Martialarts86 1 year ago
truth is hard to believe? truth hurts doesn't it?
5jama 1 year ago
truth is hard to believe? truth hurts doesn't it?
these are hard facts
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama i think u should better answer this question cuz its seems to be that u feel allready pain
ur must be hard wounded my friand
Martialarts86 1 year ago
Pain from what?
Insects like that dont have the intelligence to hurt anyone
I have the truth on my side if you trashpeople dont believe
in god than go worship the cows or something.
You were the one saying 'O I study psychology and bleble' like you have the
quality to study anything you trash your people are just the trash of the earth
all u can do is talk and even when u talk u sound like crap, so get educated for real, because all this shows is that u dont even have a clue of what u study
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama we belive in God in the true God and not ur weak allah
and isnt it funny that u say we should worship a cow arent u from india ?
LOL i think u should convert back to hinduism
Martialarts86 1 year ago
My goodness, I was right you really are an idiot,,
Btw I was talking about Allah the only one real god,,,,not a fake one
so you can just go back to the church for another sing- along where they rape childeren,,, thats what the church is all about anyways
We are no those that like to convert after seeing the truth,, I think it really
hurts you people that Islam is the perfect and more and more people are
converting,,, all I can say is SUCK ON THAT!!!!!JEWY
5jama 1 year ago
@5jama rape children? if u so worried about that
i agree with u bad ppl are everywhere but did the Bible teach that ? for sure no
but what about ur pedo prophet muhammad what did he done to 3aisha
and what is the promis of ur saten "god" allah about what u will get in gena 72 virgins and 300 boys ? i mean come on man u dont care about rapeing children b cuz 1 day u will be urself one in gena if u arent yet one
Martialarts86 1 year ago
ISLAM IS THE PERFECT RELIGION
WHETER U FAGS LIKE IT OR NOT
PEACE GAYWADD
5jama 1 year ago
mashalaah..he smacked it
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ok...what happened to the debate...no Q&A session? Anyone who uses humor in a debate is either trying to divert attention from the real questions or nervous! Disappointing debate!
DaVoice305 1 year ago
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DaVoice305 1 year ago
Where is Walid Shoe Bat now infront of this man who know Arabic...Of course Walid has to shut up because this guy would crush him and his lies. Jihad means ot defend yourself only and it never says just kill anyone or Christians or Jews so we can see that Waild Shoe is nothing but a shoe and a liar.
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