A atmosfera de netuno é rica em partículas matálicas. Os ventos movimentam as partículas atmosféricas assim como qualquer outra atmosfera planetária. Deveria então não haver qualquer simetria correto?
No caso de Saturno também há um forte fluxo magnético que inicia no polo que favorece a formação dessa simetria.
Para um exemplo prático vejam os vídeos de ferro-fluídos que rolam pelo Youtube, o líquido carregado de partículas metálicas formam incríveis estruturas.
So why is the center of the picture censored/blacked out. Nasa apparently has hundreds of photo's of this and they can't find one good one to show. The first time there are full visible light images of the hexagon and its censored. BS
@blu3m4trix it's not "censored". When an imager is near the equator of a sphere, it cannot image the polar regions (and they are extremely stretched out). This is no different than NOAA's GOES geostationary satellites that watch Earth's weather. We cannot see the poles of earth so we have a different kind of satellite (polar orbiters) to see those areas. Unfortunately, NASA doesn't have anything in a good orbit to image the entire polar region of Saturn.
@sgtgary66 Can you then explain why the infrared images of the same object are not blacked out? There are even video's/time lapse clips from the infrared camera of this exact location on saturn and nothing in censored.
@blu3m4trix I completely forgot about the fact that Saturn's orbit is so long that it only just hit equinox. Since the image is made up of weeks worth of images, the pole itself hasn't been lit yet. I imagine the visible light image that reaches the pole will be available soon, once the imager captures the dimly lit north pole.
@sgtgary66 I looked into it and that sounds about rite. Think what had me confused was NASA's wording of the picture. "in 2009 the mysterious hexagonal vortex became fully illuminated by sunlight for the first time during the Cassini's visit. Since then, Cassini has imaged the rotating hexagon in visible light enough times to create a time-lapse movie." I think i assumed they should have had a full view of the pole but i guess not. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
The pole center was not well imaged and has been excluded. This line of BS was written on the photo of the day 1-22-12. Makes ya wonder what is down the vortex that "they" don't want us to see?
@FletcherHabit - The Huygens probe landed on Titan in January 2005 and took some incredible photos on the way down. A year or two ago I posted some movies of the landing produced by ESA compiled from the descent imagery. Pretty cool stuff. The next lander mission is the Curiosity rover to land on Mars in August 2012. Then a Russian mission will land on Phobos sometime in 2012 to collect rock samples to return to Earth.
@argodell - there are plenty of interesting phenomena at Saturn and its rings and moons. Truth be told, the polar hexagon has been discussed in scientific circles for almost 30 years, but atmospheric fluid dynamics doesn't have the flashy zing in documentaries compared to the more media-friendly ice geysers on Enceladus, the Earthlike geology and weather on Titan, the two faces of Iapetus and of course those gorgeous rings!
what worries me is that nasa discovered it in the 80s, and never told us about it till now. i wonder how many things they know, but they're not telling us right now.
@Shainkov - actually, yes, it was announced back in 1980 and 1981. As a kid, I followed the Voyager space program quite a bit through the 70s and 80s, and I very much remember when it was discovered. I haven't seen all the research, but it's a completely natural atmospheric effect. I've seen some videos where they simulate Jupiter's and Saturn's atmospheres with spinning circular tanks, and they can re-create Saturn's hexagon and Jupiter's Great Red Spot in the laboratory.
@Shainkov the fucking govt maaaannnn!!!, they created it with HAARP to use as a weapon for population control - its gunna happpen in 2012 - then after they destroy th earth they'll all live inside the hexagon in special domes they built with all there money theyve been taxing the poor with for the last century and rule over the solar system with golden ion plasma tridents... amiright?!
@Shainkov Never told us about it? Listen, there are many discoveries made by NASA, and they are released on science websites including NASA's site. This information has been in the public domain since the 80s. But you have to look for the information, you can't expect everything to be handed to you. Just because you haven't heard about something doesn't mean it's not out there.
@Shainkov they know about spreading persistent contrails, and the information is easy to find from NASA, they think it will have an effect on our natural resources but they are not sure. But, no one cares. Check contrail edcuation for more info.
The fact that NASA didn't give you a call about it doesn't mean that they are hiding it. It's even old news for scientists and people interested in science.
There's nothing unusual about Saturn's hexagon... scientists have replicated geometric shapes (including hexagons) and mini-Red Spots in fluid simulations of Jupiter's and Saturn's atmosphere.
And the forces that create atmospheric hexagons are completely different from those that create snowflakes. :)
@djxatlanta Here there are no secrets and mysticism. It is the simple physics.Try to stick together (using video editor) it is video not less till 25 seconds. Also be close at the further viewing. Do not search for a trifle and look from a position of bases of physics. Your idea mister?
Maybe it sounds crazy, but... What if it is artificial? I mean: some advanced civilization detects ours in the past and puts an artifact where only a probe could find it: in a pole of the most eye-catching planet of our system (due to the rings). In that way, whatever message is there will be found only when we can understand it (once we achieve science and scientific way of thinking enough to send probes to other planets).
Unfortunately in the grand scheme of things, being able to send out probes to neighboring planets can apparently happen during the infancy of a sentient species.
It would make sense if the message required a probe be sent to the nearest neighbor star.
Like the monolith buried on the moon in "2001 space odyssey", it had a strong magnetic field and we could find it only when we were advanced enough to go there.
Thanks so much for posting this--it made my face light up with joy and amazement! The unexpected hexagon is so, so cool. (Hm. Now *there's* a phrase for the Band Name/Song Title game.)
Congrats on being linked to at the Astronomy Picture of the Day.
well, for sure the core is NOT a gas - it's something solid otherwise the planet would fall apart (check your school books).
and some top scientists (like NASA) say:
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It is unclear how an unusual hexagonal cloud system that surrounds Saturn's north pole was created, keeps its shape, or how long it will last. *********************
The alchemical symbol for lead is the symbol for Saturn. Lead has a cubic (six-sided) crystal structure. A hexagon has six sides. So, what's the big mystery?
cuz they didnt take pics of the centre. Cassini doesnt have the correct angle to get a top down shot of it so it needs to form a composition from multiple images
In the article it says that they did have a high-enough angle to get coverage but that the area directly around the pole was still not getting enough (any) sunlight. Our north pole on Earth gets half a year of continuous darkness; Saturn's year is 19 times longer so we'll have to be patient a while longer and we'll all get to see what you want! Scientists and interested amateurs alike are eager for clearer images of this fascinating phenomenon.
There are other examples of six sidedness in nature. Boiling water (heated evenly from below) exhibits a hexagonal pattern or 6 points of roiling fluid on the surface of the water. There are other examples as well.
Look! There must be a source whitch is emitting a certain frequency. This frquency makes a standing wawe forming the gas witch has a geometry like this:
2 seconds?
xlucioflavio 5 days ago
Eu tenho uma teoria:
A atmosfera de netuno é rica em partículas matálicas. Os ventos movimentam as partículas atmosféricas assim como qualquer outra atmosfera planetária. Deveria então não haver qualquer simetria correto?
No caso de Saturno também há um forte fluxo magnético que inicia no polo que favorece a formação dessa simetria.
Para um exemplo prático vejam os vídeos de ferro-fluídos que rolam pelo Youtube, o líquido carregado de partículas metálicas formam incríveis estruturas.
Regis2007 5 days ago
So why is the center of the picture censored/blacked out. Nasa apparently has hundreds of photo's of this and they can't find one good one to show. The first time there are full visible light images of the hexagon and its censored. BS
blu3m4trix 1 week ago
@blu3m4trix it's not "censored". When an imager is near the equator of a sphere, it cannot image the polar regions (and they are extremely stretched out). This is no different than NOAA's GOES geostationary satellites that watch Earth's weather. We cannot see the poles of earth so we have a different kind of satellite (polar orbiters) to see those areas. Unfortunately, NASA doesn't have anything in a good orbit to image the entire polar region of Saturn.
sgtgary66 1 week ago 4
@sgtgary66 Can you then explain why the infrared images of the same object are not blacked out? There are even video's/time lapse clips from the infrared camera of this exact location on saturn and nothing in censored.
blu3m4trix 6 days ago
@blu3m4trix I completely forgot about the fact that Saturn's orbit is so long that it only just hit equinox. Since the image is made up of weeks worth of images, the pole itself hasn't been lit yet. I imagine the visible light image that reaches the pole will be available soon, once the imager captures the dimly lit north pole.
sgtgary66 6 days ago
@sgtgary66 I looked into it and that sounds about rite. Think what had me confused was NASA's wording of the picture. "in 2009 the mysterious hexagonal vortex became fully illuminated by sunlight for the first time during the Cassini's visit. Since then, Cassini has imaged the rotating hexagon in visible light enough times to create a time-lapse movie." I think i assumed they should have had a full view of the pole but i guess not. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
blu3m4trix 5 days ago
It makes a great game to try to push the pause button right when it forms a perfect circle, before it ends...you have to be quick though.
vmarb 1 week ago
The pole center was not well imaged and has been excluded. This line of BS was written on the photo of the day 1-22-12. Makes ya wonder what is down the vortex that "they" don't want us to see?
jrae50021 1 week ago
ALIENS...
AIFRANCHISE1 1 week ago
It's hyperdeminsional physics at work. Awesome.
alienguy07 1 week ago
Hexagon! It's the shape of France!
etbadaboum 1 week ago
In the address bar, change "youtube" to "endlessyoutube" and visit that site, and it will loop repeatedly. Not spamming, just saying.
ablestmage 1 week ago
Could this video be a little shorter. I have things to do like blink.
MaxwellCrone 1 week ago
Nasa ain't gonna tell us nothin except that stars twinkle if that's all the Gov't wants us to know.
If y'all need to know anything else call me.
handsupbud 3 months ago
I would love to see a better investigation on this.
xTRICKYxx 7 months ago
so.. its supernatural... RIGHT?!
James1985Smith 8 months ago
When does that probe land scheduled to arrive mid 2011 i forget exactly.. anybody know what im talking about?
FletcherHabit 10 months ago
@FletcherHabit - The Huygens probe landed on Titan in January 2005 and took some incredible photos on the way down. A year or two ago I posted some movies of the landing produced by ESA compiled from the descent imagery. Pretty cool stuff. The next lander mission is the Curiosity rover to land on Mars in August 2012. Then a Russian mission will land on Phobos sometime in 2012 to collect rock samples to return to Earth.
djxatlanta 10 months ago
how does it work?
uut0 10 months ago
Here there are no secrets and mysticism. It is the simple physics. Your ideas of ladies and gentlemen?
Lemptuse 1 year ago
The King has a crown! Long live the king! Hope its not Sauron, the Lord of the Rings :)
Jeorney 1 year ago
The opposite pole has a formation resembling an eye. Gadzooks! it's Sauron's cold lidless eye and he is wearing the ring of power! Frodo failed!
Jeorney 1 year ago
Its funny how the biggest mystery in the solar system has had almost no media or documentary coverage to speak of.
argodell 1 year ago 14
@argodell - there are plenty of interesting phenomena at Saturn and its rings and moons. Truth be told, the polar hexagon has been discussed in scientific circles for almost 30 years, but atmospheric fluid dynamics doesn't have the flashy zing in documentaries compared to the more media-friendly ice geysers on Enceladus, the Earthlike geology and weather on Titan, the two faces of Iapetus and of course those gorgeous rings!
djxatlanta 1 year ago 11
@djxatlanta I suppose your right. But I would still love to see talked about more.
argodell 1 year ago
what worries me is that nasa discovered it in the 80s, and never told us about it till now. i wonder how many things they know, but they're not telling us right now.
Think about it.
Shainkov 1 year ago
@Shainkov - actually, yes, it was announced back in 1980 and 1981. As a kid, I followed the Voyager space program quite a bit through the 70s and 80s, and I very much remember when it was discovered. I haven't seen all the research, but it's a completely natural atmospheric effect. I've seen some videos where they simulate Jupiter's and Saturn's atmospheres with spinning circular tanks, and they can re-create Saturn's hexagon and Jupiter's Great Red Spot in the laboratory.
djxatlanta 1 year ago 11
@Shainkov the fucking govt maaaannnn!!!, they created it with HAARP to use as a weapon for population control - its gunna happpen in 2012 - then after they destroy th earth they'll all live inside the hexagon in special domes they built with all there money theyve been taxing the poor with for the last century and rule over the solar system with golden ion plasma tridents... amiright?!
odecahedron42 1 week ago 3
@odecahedron42 Calm down and take your meds. You'll be alright.
Stacy55ish 1 week ago
@Shainkov Never told us about it? Listen, there are many discoveries made by NASA, and they are released on science websites including NASA's site. This information has been in the public domain since the 80s. But you have to look for the information, you can't expect everything to be handed to you. Just because you haven't heard about something doesn't mean it's not out there.
Stacy55ish 1 week ago 7
@Shainkov they know about spreading persistent contrails, and the information is easy to find from NASA, they think it will have an effect on our natural resources but they are not sure. But, no one cares. Check contrail edcuation for more info.
thurmanrandy 1 week ago
@Shainkov
The fact that NASA didn't give you a call about it doesn't mean that they are hiding it. It's even old news for scientists and people interested in science.
EthelRethor 6 days ago 2
I blinked and missed it.
LilyLava 2 years ago 18
There's nothing unusual about Saturn's hexagon... scientists have replicated geometric shapes (including hexagons) and mini-Red Spots in fluid simulations of Jupiter's and Saturn's atmosphere.
And the forces that create atmospheric hexagons are completely different from those that create snowflakes. :)
djxatlanta 2 years ago
@djxatlanta Here there are no secrets and mysticism. It is the simple physics. Your idea mister?
Lemptuse 1 year ago
@djxatlanta Here there are no secrets and mysticism. It is the simple physics.Try to stick together (using video editor) it is video not less till 25 seconds. Also be close at the further viewing. Do not search for a trifle and look from a position of bases of physics. Your idea mister?
Lemptuse 1 year ago
you are silly! :DDDDD
so its hexagonal.
so are snowflakes hexagonal...
big deal :D
sorry but i have to dissapoiont you,
its not artifical. its so simple that
its fascinating :)
Steamroller83 2 years ago
I think you trivialized what I have thought about this phenom since first hearing of it.
Some unknown deep fundimental geometry occurs naturally, producing hexagons, in the form of snowflakes on earth, jetstreams on Saturn.
heythereDaphnee 2 years ago
Maybe it sounds crazy, but... What if it is artificial? I mean: some advanced civilization detects ours in the past and puts an artifact where only a probe could find it: in a pole of the most eye-catching planet of our system (due to the rings). In that way, whatever message is there will be found only when we can understand it (once we achieve science and scientific way of thinking enough to send probes to other planets).
It could be a good 'alien' firewall.
LiyakX 2 years ago
Very Interesting Theory.
14PinkFloyd 2 years ago
Unfortunately in the grand scheme of things, being able to send out probes to neighboring planets can apparently happen during the infancy of a sentient species.
It would make sense if the message required a probe be sent to the nearest neighbor star.
We're still incredibly far from that.
hossrex 2 years ago
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BB1951 2 years ago
Like the monolith buried on the moon in "2001 space odyssey", it had a strong magnetic field and we could find it only when we were advanced enough to go there.
So what do we do now?
FractAlkemist 2 years ago
I can't tell you how happy this made me! Thanks for posting this. I found your video through that site that posts new space pictures each day.
geekdivaherself 2 years ago 2
I'm so happy you posted this! The unexpected hexagon is so, so cool. I found you through the Astronomy Picture of the Day, btw.
geekdivaherself 2 years ago
Thanks so much for posting this--it made my face light up with joy and amazement! The unexpected hexagon is so, so cool. (Hm. Now *there's* a phrase for the Band Name/Song Title game.)
Congrats on being linked to at the Astronomy Picture of the Day.
geekdivaherself 2 years ago
Maybe the way it rotates is a little screwed up.. The moons might be effecting it's spin.
CuteFluffyLion 2 years ago
It's obviously Noheart, send the Carebears!
sobaixu 2 years ago
What you say?!?! All your base, now belong to us!!!
sobaixu 2 years ago
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sobaixu 2 years ago
maybe the core isn't gas and makes a whobble?
JaguarNL 2 years ago
well, for sure the core is NOT a gas - it's something solid otherwise the planet would fall apart (check your school books).
and some top scientists (like NASA) say:
********************
It is unclear how an unusual hexagonal cloud system that surrounds Saturn's north pole was created, keeps its shape, or how long it will last. *********************
we need to look deeper... and deeper...
beta700a 2 years ago
1) Anyway, this thing shouldn't be there in the first place... Saturn is a gas giant. And gas doesn't form hexagons, never (check your school books).
Otherwise we would see some explanations, right?
2) We, people, are not good in explaining things that shouldn't exist... So let's just hope we'll have a chance to look deeper... and deeper...
P.S. Who made that stupid compare with boiling water in the pot? It is a GAS planet - you feel the difference? :)
beta700a 2 years ago
Well, gas obviously does form hexagons, because you see one in the video above...
It's most likely some sort of standing wave formed at the pole, although there could be other explanations.
WhiteZenith 2 years ago
this is an alien energybase where UFO's are refilled
dadadreams3000 2 years ago
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beta700a 2 years ago
The alchemical symbol for lead is the symbol for Saturn. Lead has a cubic (six-sided) crystal structure. A hexagon has six sides. So, what's the big mystery?
BobBerkeley 2 years ago
Cubic systems have 4-fold symmetry (read: 4), Hexagonal systems have 6-fold symmetry.
Whammy154 2 years ago
Do you believe in bigfoot?
mrwoofwoof99 2 years ago
Only if it steps on my Saturn.
BobBerkeley 2 years ago
Why the giant black spot in the middle? Everytime.
allourep 2 years ago
"The pole center was not well imaged and has been excluded."
bethsays 2 years ago
Some of the comments are great. I only hope that those folks are trying to be funny...
evac93rd 2 years ago
Why NASA is hiding the center? I am not a UFO or Alien believer, but guys, show me the original footage without those black think in the center.
roboaalien 2 years ago
cuz they didnt take pics of the centre. Cassini doesnt have the correct angle to get a top down shot of it so it needs to form a composition from multiple images
Shokanis 2 years ago
In the article it says that they did have a high-enough angle to get coverage but that the area directly around the pole was still not getting enough (any) sunlight. Our north pole on Earth gets half a year of continuous darkness; Saturn's year is 19 times longer so we'll have to be patient a while longer and we'll all get to see what you want! Scientists and interested amateurs alike are eager for clearer images of this fascinating phenomenon.
agree499 2 years ago
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fuck off
Mueiwark 2 years ago
Reminds me a little of the Giants Causeway in Northern Ireland ... those are basalt columns, remnants of volcanic activities.
Kryptocleric 2 years ago
1.21 Jigawatts?
nostromo38 2 years ago
GigaWatt ;)
drjones153 2 years ago
it's not hilarious, because I also make the experiment
1Becket 2 years ago
these comments are hilarious
giggletronics 2 years ago
There are other examples of six sidedness in nature. Boiling water (heated evenly from below) exhibits a hexagonal pattern or 6 points of roiling fluid on the surface of the water. There are other examples as well.
luzdekorum 2 years ago
Don't forget your tinfoil hats, fellas.
kcharlesblakey 2 years ago 5
seems pretty advanced,
some sort of life form intelligence behind it maybe?
darpa322 2 years ago
also the 6th planet
semitrailer27 2 years ago
Look! There must be a source whitch is emitting a certain frequency. This frquency makes a standing wawe forming the gas witch has a geometry like this:
U must imagine it like a 3DIM energy field!
Like this in 2DIM
watch?v=s9GBf8y0lY0
Question:
What is the emitter?
Moles76p 2 years ago
Saturn - Saturday - 6th day of the week - hexagon
It might be a big merkaba fileld :D
"hmm interesting" (Mr Spock)
Moles76p 2 years ago