Rohrabacher is a sad example of the failure of the US political process to deliver educated decent people to our congress. In fact , he is dangerous because he is too ignorant to realise that he is totally ill-equipped to be in any position other than emptying my trash cans every 2 weeks.
It's ezey act in fear to kill imprison bend rules when your at wits end question or not will this man go to the front lines to kill no he would have your poor n young Americas do the killing and dying to act in fear will only leve the young weaken an mybe dead sadd don't you think
This doesn't seem to be the whole story. This could be misleading since we didn't hear the question being asked. What was the question? and how was it worded? He is already talking when the video starts.
Given the information at this time, it is reasonable to conclude that the best option is to blow Whorebacher's head off with a blowtorch. Anyone who would do that is a patriotic American soldier and hero. Nothing personal against Whorebacher. It's just that current assessments show that Whorebacher is killing millions with global warming and wasting trillions on corporate military welfare.
THAT is how you fight back pieces of shit like Whorebacher.
I am more than 80% convinced the US either faked or at least allowed 9-11 to happen. I am an American and I hate the "American way of life" and that is why I am moving to Europe.
Maybe if the American Government wasn't involved in the Middle East since post WWII, maybe since the American Government wasn't over-throwing other nations with the CIA operations, etc. . .maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened any maybe, just maybe they wouldn't hate us this much--but NOOOOO--the government has to "westernize" the whole world. This is pathetic--and I'm even an American!
LOL I'm American and I never have SUPPORTED WAR. Its Stupid and a waste of money. If all of Goverment believes in War then WHY DON'T THEY GET OFF THERE ASS INSTEAD OF RUNNING THEIR OLD ASS MOUTHS AND GO FIGHT THESE STUPID WARS. If anyone isnt AMERICAN its a old ASS like the dude talking shit in this vid then hiding behind his Millions in Salary and sending USA Kids to die for NOTHING!
Latest headline reads: "U.S. troops on exercises nearby the Phillipines sent a C130 transport plane and three Chinook helicopters to help bring food and medicine to Baguio City in mountainous Benguet province, 250 km (155 miles) north of the capital, and nearby areas cut off by landslides after the devastating typhoon." There we go again helping people who need help! Keep up the good work America! Proud to be an American for life!
Rohrabacher doesn't hate America, he hates FAKE AMERICANS. You know, all the people who live here who don't agree with him or make less than a million bucks a year. Or aren't white. Or aren't christian. Or aren't straight. Or aren't men.
You know, good old conservative values. REAL Americans are surely still in his good graces.
Rohrbacher "We went to Iraq to try and free your people and now we're being blamed for sectarian violence," he said. "Don't blame us because that type of bloodlust exists in your society."
Saleh al Mutlaq "You were the ones who pushed your troops. We did not invite you."
It was at this point that an exasperated Rohrabacher threw up his hands and stormed out of the room.
Good job Mr Mutlaq. Fuck you Rohrbacher, you piece of neocon scum.
That settles it: Members of Congress who act like children should be forced to sit at the children's table. And the can't get up until they finish coloring the picture on the placemat
the rushie Great Depression neocons is the obstruction party of NO ... the neocons are mind controlled ditto heads .. the manson family i mean meocon family bitch the jedi knight obama preaching socialism to school kids ... but hey ... many have complained about our fuehrer being able to walk the streets ... the guy blew up the wtc and murdered thousands ... google 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe' for yourself ... but our fuehrer does
Are you all right? Where you see here Russian propaganda? Looks like you cannot listen to other people... and falsify your conclusions. I hope that not all Western people are so unscrupulous.
I'm not western - I'm Russian and I support Russia. And I said "ANTI Russian propaganda" - that was about goldage2007 comments. Can you read carefully?
Fortunately the clowns like this here Mr.Rohrashitmaher do not count a crap even among Republicans. His days in the Congress r well counted:))Prepare your wallets, FSB-s US unit, the next lobbyist might cost u a lot more, cause it's an ungratified job:D
There is no doubt that Georgian launced the war. The Ossetians do not want Sakashvili's "democracy". As for Russians - there is no need to pay them whoever. The facts of Geaorgian aggression againist the Ossets is clear.
The "ossetians", aka "russian passport holder" bandits should go back where they belong - in one and only Ossetia, which is located on the other side of Caucasus:)
As for the ethnic Ossetians, Georgian citizens , there r more Ossetians living in Georgia, than entire population of Russian commanded terrorist heaven, where government is 99% Russian FSB criminals :) So stick your putinoid propaganda up your FSB ridden asses, Informational security team:))
F minus to u, Andriuxa:) R you a Dugin's school drop-out?:) U definitely need to learn more to flash around Kremlin propaganda effectively, right now it sounds like a text book from FSB ideological unit's headquarters:)
Which "intelligence sources" r u talking about, Mr. Congressman? FSB? Gazprom? Putin's colleagues? R u on their payroll? Hourly wages or bonuses? Or is it just your ideology?
I think it's time thee Congress started investigation. Would be interesting to find out, who else is the part of Kremlin lobby, paid by Russian gas-dollars.
So many assumptions, why not ask the fellow American instead? I'm sure many people in US noticed that every geopolitical conflict which involves US happens around large oil reserves - like the one in Iraq or the latest one in Georgia which is not far from Caspian oil reserves -- the reason US is so vocal on Georgia which beyond any doubt attacked Ossetia and Abkhasia this time around just like the one before in 90s. Lets remember Iran as well, very large oil reserves, that has been brewing.
But u'r lousy at it, poor thing. No good pay, sergeant? Tough times? I've heard your brave troops r eating raw corn in Georgian cornfields:))Shame on u, great Russia! Give them at least enough vodka so they can stay drunk like swines and forget about hunger:)
This scumbag is opposing Georgia and Ukraine in joining NATO since the very beginning. Now he's claiming that it was Georgia who started the war. He refers to the "intelligence sources" and insists that the aggressor is Georgia, nor Russian occupants.
No, u must be know it better, "Made in Russia":D) Oh and where did Georgia "started that war"? WOW, on the internationally recognized Georgian territory facing 150 Russian armored vehicles coming from Rocky tunnel! Defending the Georgian citizens (who live in Georgia, BTW)from the illegal bandits and terrorists with Russian passports!What a crime!:))
Go pick up Grozny ruins where your "peaceloving" Kremlin massacred 100000 civilians, more than 50 000 kids among them, and they were legal Russian citizens, residing in Russian Federation, not just illegal "Russian passport holders".
Go visit the graves of Beslan kids (also Russian citizens), burned alive with flamethrowers by the Russian "rescuers", and Russian dissident journalists, like Anna Politkovskaya, murdered by Kremlin.
America doesn't have to go it alone simply because "terrorists hate our freedom" and we have to do whatever is necessary to "protect our way of life". America has to go it alone in the world because of crazy people like this who make policy who always take comfort in the ends justifying the means no matter what kind of mentality. The kind of kill or indefinitely detain 10 innocents to save a hundred idea doesn't work. All you end up with is 10 dead or wrongfully imprisoned people...thats it.
You have to be taken to court BEFORE you can be determined to an unlawful combatant, accord to the bit of Geneva USA has signed. NOT rot in Gitmo for five years first. Not be tortured into self incrimination first in some foreign hell hole under "Extraordinary renditions" If that were the case Police could just go back to beating confessions out of people like the good old days of JIM CROW.
Unlawful combatants have fewer protections under Geneva ConventionIII. If there is a question of whether a person is an unlawful combatant, he (or she) must be treated as a POW "until their status has been determined by a competent tribunal" (GCIII Article 5).
But back to the disgusting revelation by US Representative Dana Rohrabacher who thinks it is okay to torture the wrong guy. Why is it alright with any American to torture the right guy even, USA signed up to Geneva, any Military person should be taught Geneva as part of training.
I have put up a doco on MY LAI where SIMPSON admits scalping people, do they teach that at Ft Benning.?
Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on his or her back, with the head inclined downward, and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages.[1] Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning in a controlled environment and is made to believe that death is imminent.[2] In contrast to merely submerging the head face-forward, waterboarding almost immediately elicits the gag reflex.[3]
Although waterboarding can be performed in ways that leave no lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, and even death.[4] The psychological effects on victims of waterboarding can last for years after the procedure
So you were one of the Nazi's on film using the kids to check for Ambushes at gun point or the Old guy to check if the cardboard box was an IED driving the locals off the road in the Hummer, calling them all Sandnigger while you broke UCMJ drunk on "Special Mouth Wash" before you went out to murder some innocent and plant a AK47 on the body, or attack some Iraqi regulars in Abu Ghraib with an attack dog or simulate some drownings with waterboarding.? Big heroes NOT.
In December, the House of Representatives approved a bill that would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation techniques such as water-boarding.
President George W Bush has threatened to veto the bill, which would require the agency to follow the rules adopted by the US Army and abide by the Geneva Conventions, if the Senate passes it.
History rewrite** All North America still British but 16 men called George Washington were sent to Corsica to be "interviewed" in the new "renditions" program by the Governor of the Colonies He justifies this by saying he was in a "War on terror" since Boston Harbor and other incidents.
So the US say's here it's Okay to abduct, and torture people, even the wrong ones, when you are in "The War on Terror". As it is a two sided war it must therefore be EXPECTED that the other side will used equivalent tactics.
So here the US is authorizing the terrorist to torture American captives.
another reaason why the world hates you and thinks america is dumb because there is more guns than people(not including the army) but dumb americans say they buy guns for safety. but surely if there were no more guns their would be alot less murder, and have you ever thought that maybe a burglar got hold of it or even a child, just think about that america
Last statement was correct but the ones leading it are entirely false. Guns are actually used to prevent more crimes then to commit them as shown in basically every neutral study.
No neutral studies do not show hand guns prevent crime, they show they make it easy for criminals to commit crime, and encourage Police to under report other types of crime(domestic violence, child abuse, racial vilification, petty theft i.e. stepping stone crime) due to over work in violent crime.
Wow are you ever confused the second amendment is all about the people protecting themselves from the government. Look what is happening now how our civil rights are being taken from us. You talk about crime if I wanted to kill some one I do not need a gun a base ball bat will work just fine or a knife. What are we going to do take every thing that could be used to kill some one. Gun control is a steady hand.
Yes and the right to bear arms is about people forming Militias , so if you ARE IN A MILITIA you can have a firearm That is the right. Not a right for imbeciles to leave loaded weapons lying around for children to shoot each other, or to accidentally shoot a child sneaking in late. Or any of the accidental killings that occur do to that silly misunderstanding of what having a Militia being necessary is. Join the National Guard if you are brave enough go to Iraq. They take anybody at the moment.
I have always kept loaded guns in my home my child was taught to keep his hands off things that did not belong to him. When you have small children you do not leave a gun on the coffee table so they can reach it. I look and identify my targets before I fire my name is not Dick Cheney.
The safest place to keep a loaded gun is on your person it also make more sense for self defense. You need to read the second amendment again. As for joining the National Guard I'm to old they stop taking people at 48 now. So I'm to old to reenlist I served my enlistment Army active duty 1966/1969 reserves 1969/1972. I guess I was brave enough to enlist in 1966 so your point is. You served where and when.
Quote the bits of the second amendment that you think says other than militia get to have Weapons, and weapons other than military ones for use against the excesses of the government and foreign aggressors. It is still off topic from Dana saying it okay for USA to torture the wrong guy with the right name anyway but I am interested. Yes Dickless Cheney the anti gun lobbies poster boy
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The people as in We The People of the United States. I can not find any place in the constitution that references the government as the people. The military is under the command of the government not likely we would get much help there.
Yes torture a good subject the Army field manual covers that and water boarding is torture. I experienced water boarding while on a training exercise war games it is torture with out a doubt. Mistaken identity happens torture should not.
No quotes from people, bits of the Constitution, where does the constitution give the right to people not in A militia, when properly formed,
The right isn't for mobs of dickheads to do drive bys killings and muggings and for pistol whipping whores. Want a gun join the national guard if you are MAN enough. I did my time, so did my brother in the REAL armed forces.
From New Zealand and always right. I think you should worry about interpreting your own constitution and let us worry about ours. I do not meddle in the affairs of New Zealand it is your country and should be governed as your people wish not anyone else in the world. Our people will decide how our country is governed not the rest of the world.
The term militia was defined long before there was a army reserve or NG so there goes the idea that it meant anything other then what it (second amendment)says.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The people I do not believe makes any referance to the government. Like the phrase WE The People of the United States.
The term militia means a state army. The state were just that Internationally Recognized as a State in it own right. Before the Civil war the President was mainly only symbolic and the nation run by the leader of the majority of the lower house. People said the United States ARE,
The armies of the States were allowed to be armed in the constitution not private citizens. There goes the idea private citizens have firearm RIGHTS.
where i live the fucking potoricans are killing the cubans and the cubans are killing the portoricans in gang related shoot outs. this year there has been 10 deaths with in a 2 mile radious of where i live and it has been all hispanic related.
Let me clear something up for all you pro illegal pieces of shit. We are American citizens not citizens of the world and we are well armed so your little bitch asses better hope this bill doesn't pass otherwise open season on illegals.
Well armed? The most dangerous weapon is a focused mind. Unfortunately you don't have any. You are not even capable of beating a bunch of half baked mountain boys in Iraq. I hope Yellowstone blows up so that the rest of the world finally gets some real peace. Now, crawl back in your trailer.
Let me start out with a counter....I can prove im more intelligent then you because i realize that no matter how much ya think about it, if you have a hole in your head guess what? your still dead! Now get your gun hating ass out of my country. If ya really had any intelligence you'd see the purpose for a well armed people. Game over i win
First, learn how to spell your own language properly.
Second, I am not in your country and I have no desire to be.
Third, it seems that you haven't learned anything from the recent events in your country (VA Tech, Columbine high school)
Fourth, I told you to crawl back to your trailer and grow a brain. It's not about winning or losing, you don't get the point and I am not going to try to explain it to you.
Thanks for taking the piss out of this dumb redneck. They don't have the ability to think logically. Savage apes who eat bad food and work shitty jobs because they were to ignorant to pay atttention in school. Fucking disgrace to this country. Go form the Republic of Alabamastan and stay the hell away from our voting booths.
The actual subject of this thread is my concern, The USA kidnapping innocent people just with names simmilar to guilty people and transporting them to nations that have not signed Geneva part 4 to torture them on USA request. And US Representative Dana Rohrabacher thinking that this is defensible in any way. Typical SHILL response is to tell a better argument to "shut up" didn't take long to get a shill response from you.
I served MY nation RNZAF in Avionics No 1 Repair Depot and 14 Squadron when they had the Bac167 (though for some reason I keep saying 163's) we called them Blunty's at the time they are commonly known as Strikemasters. They are used for advanced conversion training. RNZAF Ohakea for 14, RNAZF Woodburn for No.1 RD. I helped in one Andover conversion at No.1 RD Lox to Gox and the extra Wingtip fuel tanks, running the novex for the wingtip sensors, and the Gox cockpit display etc.
incredible, he should have been arrested in the room and led out by the police. then taken to one of the none existent prisons and checked whether or not he is a terrorist. because it is better to be safe than sorry.
If a Czar (I believe it was Catherine the Great) can recognize that it is better to let 100 guilty people go than punish 1 innocent person, why can't a member of a democratic government beased on the idea of human rights? Since when did the openly despotic become more liberal than the nominally freedom-loving?
He also thinks climate-change is a hoax, and although he's responsible for protecting our ports here in Long Beach, he hasn't done a thing, and if something happens there it is HIS FAULT.
For all his bloviating about "protecting americans" he sure doesn't show any signs of actually wanting to do it. He's more intune with stripping away your constitutional rights.
This idiot has it exactly backwards. Apparently he has never read the Constitution or any decisions of the Supreme Court. It is better to let one guilty person go than to trample on the constitutional rights of all. What rock did he crawl out from under and who voted for him?
Rohrabacher is a sad example of the failure of the US political process to deliver educated decent people to our congress. In fact , he is dangerous because he is too ignorant to realise that he is totally ill-equipped to be in any position other than emptying my trash cans every 2 weeks.
widebody123 6 months ago
It's ezey act in fear to kill imprison bend rules when your at wits end question or not will this man go to the front lines to kill no he would have your poor n young Americas do the killing and dying to act in fear will only leve the young weaken an mybe dead sadd don't you think
andrew5613 6 months ago
This doesn't seem to be the whole story. This could be misleading since we didn't hear the question being asked. What was the question? and how was it worded? He is already talking when the video starts.
navanod77 11 months ago
Given the information at this time, it is reasonable to conclude that the best option is to blow Whorebacher's head off with a blowtorch. Anyone who would do that is a patriotic American soldier and hero. Nothing personal against Whorebacher. It's just that current assessments show that Whorebacher is killing millions with global warming and wasting trillions on corporate military welfare.
THAT is how you fight back pieces of shit like Whorebacher.
deskset24 1 year ago
I am more than 80% convinced the US either faked or at least allowed 9-11 to happen. I am an American and I hate the "American way of life" and that is why I am moving to Europe.
msungs 1 year ago
Maybe if the American Government wasn't involved in the Middle East since post WWII, maybe since the American Government wasn't over-throwing other nations with the CIA operations, etc. . .maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened any maybe, just maybe they wouldn't hate us this much--but NOOOOO--the government has to "westernize" the whole world. This is pathetic--and I'm even an American!
damunson3 2 years ago
LOL I'm American and I never have SUPPORTED WAR. Its Stupid and a waste of money. If all of Goverment believes in War then WHY DON'T THEY GET OFF THERE ASS INSTEAD OF RUNNING THEIR OLD ASS MOUTHS AND GO FIGHT THESE STUPID WARS. If anyone isnt AMERICAN its a old ASS like the dude talking shit in this vid then hiding behind his Millions in Salary and sending USA Kids to die for NOTHING!
BLUExEYEDxSLICKT 2 years ago
Latest headline reads: "U.S. troops on exercises nearby the Phillipines sent a C130 transport plane and three Chinook helicopters to help bring food and medicine to Baguio City in mountainous Benguet province, 250 km (155 miles) north of the capital, and nearby areas cut off by landslides after the devastating typhoon." There we go again helping people who need help! Keep up the good work America! Proud to be an American for life!
fooschnikens 2 years ago
Amazed I hadn't heard of this scumbag until recently.
lmaobutts 2 years ago
Rohrabacher doesn't hate America, he hates FAKE AMERICANS. You know, all the people who live here who don't agree with him or make less than a million bucks a year. Or aren't white. Or aren't christian. Or aren't straight. Or aren't men.
You know, good old conservative values. REAL Americans are surely still in his good graces.
JDorsey2001 2 years ago
welcome to the republican party
Ofir84 2 years ago 2
God damnit why is our politics so comic book evil and stupid? :(
yorgrish 2 years ago 2
Americans are in fact ghouls (to put it lightly). GOD DAMN AMERICA.
SlefTiltedAblum 2 years ago
Rohrbacher "We went to Iraq to try and free your people and now we're being blamed for sectarian violence," he said. "Don't blame us because that type of bloodlust exists in your society."
Saleh al Mutlaq "You were the ones who pushed your troops. We did not invite you."
It was at this point that an exasperated Rohrabacher threw up his hands and stormed out of the room.
Good job Mr Mutlaq. Fuck you Rohrbacher, you piece of neocon scum.
tyronebumblebee 2 years ago 10
That settles it: Members of Congress who act like children should be forced to sit at the children's table. And the can't get up until they finish coloring the picture on the placemat
3zy 2 years ago
the rushie Great Depression neocons is the obstruction party of NO ... the neocons are mind controlled ditto heads .. the manson family i mean meocon family bitch the jedi knight obama preaching socialism to school kids ... but hey ... many have complained about our fuehrer being able to walk the streets ... the guy blew up the wtc and murdered thousands ... google 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe' for yourself ... but our fuehrer does
AgnesBojaxhiu2000 2 years ago
I can't believe an idiot like you has been relected i guess we get the goverment we deserve
sprintlawler 3 years ago 5
Ok - I see - there's just anti Russian propaganda here. Go ahead.
SashaMadeInRussia 3 years ago
Are you all right? Where you see here Russian propaganda? Looks like you cannot listen to other people... and falsify your conclusions. I hope that not all Western people are so unscrupulous.
georgegg123 3 years ago
I'm not western - I'm Russian and I support Russia. And I said "ANTI Russian propaganda" - that was about goldage2007 comments. Can you read carefully?
SashaMadeInRussia 3 years ago
Fortunately the clowns like this here Mr.Rohrashitmaher do not count a crap even among Republicans. His days in the Congress r well counted:))Prepare your wallets, FSB-s US unit, the next lobbyist might cost u a lot more, cause it's an ungratified job:D
goldage2007 3 years ago
There is no doubt that Georgian launced the war. The Ossetians do not want Sakashvili's "democracy". As for Russians - there is no need to pay them whoever. The facts of Geaorgian aggression againist the Ossets is clear.
andrjuhha1970 3 years ago
The "ossetians", aka "russian passport holder" bandits should go back where they belong - in one and only Ossetia, which is located on the other side of Caucasus:)
As for the ethnic Ossetians, Georgian citizens , there r more Ossetians living in Georgia, than entire population of Russian commanded terrorist heaven, where government is 99% Russian FSB criminals :) So stick your putinoid propaganda up your FSB ridden asses, Informational security team:))
goldage2007 3 years ago
F minus to u, Andriuxa:) R you a Dugin's school drop-out?:) U definitely need to learn more to flash around Kremlin propaganda effectively, right now it sounds like a text book from FSB ideological unit's headquarters:)
goldage2007 3 years ago
Which "intelligence sources" r u talking about, Mr. Congressman? FSB? Gazprom? Putin's colleagues? R u on their payroll? Hourly wages or bonuses? Or is it just your ideology?
I think it's time thee Congress started investigation. Would be interesting to find out, who else is the part of Kremlin lobby, paid by Russian gas-dollars.
goldage2007 3 years ago
So many assumptions, why not ask the fellow American instead? I'm sure many people in US noticed that every geopolitical conflict which involves US happens around large oil reserves - like the one in Iraq or the latest one in Georgia which is not far from Caspian oil reserves -- the reason US is so vocal on Georgia which beyond any doubt attacked Ossetia and Abkhasia this time around just like the one before in 90s. Lets remember Iran as well, very large oil reserves, that has been brewing.
libmgsms 3 years ago
But u'r lousy at it, poor thing. No good pay, sergeant? Tough times? I've heard your brave troops r eating raw corn in Georgian cornfields:))Shame on u, great Russia! Give them at least enough vodka so they can stay drunk like swines and forget about hunger:)
goldage2007 3 years ago
This scumbag is opposing Georgia and Ukraine in joining NATO since the very beginning. Now he's claiming that it was Georgia who started the war. He refers to the "intelligence sources" and insists that the aggressor is Georgia, nor Russian occupants.
goldage2007 3 years ago
Which is correct. Georgia started that war - don't you know that?
SashaMadeInRussia 3 years ago
No, u must be know it better, "Made in Russia":D) Oh and where did Georgia "started that war"? WOW, on the internationally recognized Georgian territory facing 150 Russian armored vehicles coming from Rocky tunnel! Defending the Georgian citizens (who live in Georgia, BTW)from the illegal bandits and terrorists with Russian passports!What a crime!:))
goldage2007 3 years ago
Go pick up Grozny ruins where your "peaceloving" Kremlin massacred 100000 civilians, more than 50 000 kids among them, and they were legal Russian citizens, residing in Russian Federation, not just illegal "Russian passport holders".
Go visit the graves of Beslan kids (also Russian citizens), burned alive with flamethrowers by the Russian "rescuers", and Russian dissident journalists, like Anna Politkovskaya, murdered by Kremlin.
goldage2007 3 years ago
America doesn't have to go it alone simply because "terrorists hate our freedom" and we have to do whatever is necessary to "protect our way of life". America has to go it alone in the world because of crazy people like this who make policy who always take comfort in the ends justifying the means no matter what kind of mentality. The kind of kill or indefinitely detain 10 innocents to save a hundred idea doesn't work. All you end up with is 10 dead or wrongfully imprisoned people...thats it.
covertone81 3 years ago
You have to be taken to court BEFORE you can be determined to an unlawful combatant, accord to the bit of Geneva USA has signed. NOT rot in Gitmo for five years first. Not be tortured into self incrimination first in some foreign hell hole under "Extraordinary renditions" If that were the case Police could just go back to beating confessions out of people like the good old days of JIM CROW.
chepickle 4 years ago 2
Unlawful combatants have fewer protections under Geneva ConventionIII. If there is a question of whether a person is an unlawful combatant, he (or she) must be treated as a POW "until their status has been determined by a competent tribunal" (GCIII Article 5).
chepickle 4 years ago
But back to the disgusting revelation by US Representative Dana Rohrabacher who thinks it is okay to torture the wrong guy. Why is it alright with any American to torture the right guy even, USA signed up to Geneva, any Military person should be taught Geneva as part of training.
I have put up a doco on MY LAI where SIMPSON admits scalping people, do they teach that at Ft Benning.?
chepickle 4 years ago
BBC NEWS
CIA admits waterboarding inmates
The CIA has for the first time publicly admitted using the controversial method of "waterboarding" on terror suspects.
He said the technique had been used on high-profile al-Qaeda detainees including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Waterboarding is an interrogation technique in which the detainee is put in fear of drowning.
Mr Hayden was speaking as National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell presented his annual threat assessment.
chepickle 4 years ago
Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on his or her back, with the head inclined downward, and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages.[1] Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning in a controlled environment and is made to believe that death is imminent.[2] In contrast to merely submerging the head face-forward, waterboarding almost immediately elicits the gag reflex.[3]
chepickle 4 years ago
Although waterboarding can be performed in ways that leave no lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, and even death.[4] The psychological effects on victims of waterboarding can last for years after the procedure
chepickle 4 years ago
So you were one of the Nazi's on film using the kids to check for Ambushes at gun point or the Old guy to check if the cardboard box was an IED driving the locals off the road in the Hummer, calling them all Sandnigger while you broke UCMJ drunk on "Special Mouth Wash" before you went out to murder some innocent and plant a AK47 on the body, or attack some Iraqi regulars in Abu Ghraib with an attack dog or simulate some drownings with waterboarding.? Big heroes NOT.
chepickle 4 years ago
BBC REPORT
"Water-boarding 'would be torture"
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US national intelligence chief Mike McConnell has said the interrogation technique of water-boarding "would be torture" if he were subjected to it.
(that's all that needs to be said then)
chepickle 4 years ago
In December, the House of Representatives approved a bill that would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation techniques such as water-boarding.
President George W Bush has threatened to veto the bill, which would require the agency to follow the rules adopted by the US Army and abide by the Geneva Conventions, if the Senate passes it.
chepickle 4 years ago
Rohrabacher needs to take a hunting trip with Cheney, preferably dressed like the chicken s**t he is.
Barlak 4 years ago
History rewrite** All North America still British but 16 men called George Washington were sent to Corsica to be "interviewed" in the new "renditions" program by the Governor of the Colonies He justifies this by saying he was in a "War on terror" since Boston Harbor and other incidents.
chepickle 4 years ago
I hope it's Rawpecker that gets tortured by people who takes what he says as being justification for tit for tat.
chepickle 4 years ago
So the US say's here it's Okay to abduct, and torture people, even the wrong ones, when you are in "The War on Terror". As it is a two sided war it must therefore be EXPECTED that the other side will used equivalent tactics.
So here the US is authorizing the terrorist to torture American captives.
Straight from the HORSES "MOUTH"
chepickle 4 years ago
The other side does worse but that does not mean that we should lower ourselves to their level.
lbuchite 4 years ago
another reaason why the world hates you and thinks america is dumb because there is more guns than people(not including the army) but dumb americans say they buy guns for safety. but surely if there were no more guns their would be alot less murder, and have you ever thought that maybe a burglar got hold of it or even a child, just think about that america
020jesus 4 years ago
More people get shot by there own firearms than shot intruders.
More people shot loved ones than shoot in defense.
More people shot themselves (suicide) than shoot burglars.
Yes I NEED a GUN for SAFETY NOW, damn our laws.
chepickle 4 years ago
Last statement was correct but the ones leading it are entirely false. Guns are actually used to prevent more crimes then to commit them as shown in basically every neutral study.
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
No neutral studies do not show hand guns prevent crime, they show they make it easy for criminals to commit crime, and encourage Police to under report other types of crime(domestic violence, child abuse, racial vilification, petty theft i.e. stepping stone crime) due to over work in violent crime.
chepickle 4 years ago
Wow are you ever confused the second amendment is all about the people protecting themselves from the government. Look what is happening now how our civil rights are being taken from us. You talk about crime if I wanted to kill some one I do not need a gun a base ball bat will work just fine or a knife. What are we going to do take every thing that could be used to kill some one. Gun control is a steady hand.
lbuchite 4 years ago
Yes and the right to bear arms is about people forming Militias , so if you ARE IN A MILITIA you can have a firearm That is the right. Not a right for imbeciles to leave loaded weapons lying around for children to shoot each other, or to accidentally shoot a child sneaking in late. Or any of the accidental killings that occur do to that silly misunderstanding of what having a Militia being necessary is. Join the National Guard if you are brave enough go to Iraq. They take anybody at the moment.
chepickle 4 years ago
I have always kept loaded guns in my home my child was taught to keep his hands off things that did not belong to him. When you have small children you do not leave a gun on the coffee table so they can reach it. I look and identify my targets before I fire my name is not Dick Cheney.
lbuchite 4 years ago
The safest place to keep a loaded gun is on your person it also make more sense for self defense. You need to read the second amendment again. As for joining the National Guard I'm to old they stop taking people at 48 now. So I'm to old to reenlist I served my enlistment Army active duty 1966/1969 reserves 1969/1972. I guess I was brave enough to enlist in 1966 so your point is. You served where and when.
lbuchite 4 years ago
Quote the bits of the second amendment that you think says other than militia get to have Weapons, and weapons other than military ones for use against the excesses of the government and foreign aggressors. It is still off topic from Dana saying it okay for USA to torture the wrong guy with the right name anyway but I am interested. Yes Dickless Cheney the anti gun lobbies poster boy
chepickle 4 years ago
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The people as in We The People of the United States. I can not find any place in the constitution that references the government as the people. The military is under the command of the government not likely we would get much help there.
lbuchite 4 years ago
Yes torture a good subject the Army field manual covers that and water boarding is torture. I experienced water boarding while on a training exercise war games it is torture with out a doubt. Mistaken identity happens torture should not.
lbuchite 4 years ago
George Mason: "I ask you sir, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people." (Elliott,
Debates, 425-426)
Richard Henry Lee: "A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and
include all men capable of bearing arms." (Additional letters from the Federal Farmer, at 169, 1788)
There's a lot more quotes from people like Jefferson and Washington and Franlin as well as Adams but they won't fit in this box.
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
No quotes from people, bits of the Constitution, where does the constitution give the right to people not in A militia, when properly formed,
The right isn't for mobs of dickheads to do drive bys killings and muggings and for pistol whipping whores. Want a gun join the national guard if you are MAN enough. I did my time, so did my brother in the REAL armed forces.
chepickle 4 years ago
Check your mail. I sent you the definition of the militia as per the legal definition with references so that you can see for yourself.
By the way, I was in the army. Signed up a few weeks after 9/11 and was discharged in January of 04
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
From New Zealand and always right. I think you should worry about interpreting your own constitution and let us worry about ours. I do not meddle in the affairs of New Zealand it is your country and should be governed as your people wish not anyone else in the world. Our people will decide how our country is governed not the rest of the world.
lbuchite 4 years ago
The term militia was defined long before there was a army reserve or NG so there goes the idea that it meant anything other then what it (second amendment)says.
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The people I do not believe makes any referance to the government. Like the phrase WE The People of the United States.
lbuchite 4 years ago
The term militia means a state army. The state were just that Internationally Recognized as a State in it own right. Before the Civil war the President was mainly only symbolic and the nation run by the leader of the majority of the lower house. People said the United States ARE,
The armies of the States were allowed to be armed in the constitution not private citizens. There goes the idea private citizens have firearm RIGHTS.
chepickle 4 years ago
You did know that the founders actually were against standing armies right?
State army by definition in essence was all of the men in a state of fighting age.
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
where i live the fucking potoricans are killing the cubans and the cubans are killing the portoricans in gang related shoot outs. this year there has been 10 deaths with in a 2 mile radious of where i live and it has been all hispanic related.
watchdog3 4 years ago
watchdog3 glad im from the dark side of the moon lol
msdnvp 4 years ago
Let me clear something up for all you pro illegal pieces of shit. We are American citizens not citizens of the world and we are well armed so your little bitch asses better hope this bill doesn't pass otherwise open season on illegals.
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
Well armed? The most dangerous weapon is a focused mind. Unfortunately you don't have any. You are not even capable of beating a bunch of half baked mountain boys in Iraq. I hope Yellowstone blows up so that the rest of the world finally gets some real peace. Now, crawl back in your trailer.
uzuragakure 4 years ago
Let me start out with a counter....I can prove im more intelligent then you because i realize that no matter how much ya think about it, if you have a hole in your head guess what? your still dead! Now get your gun hating ass out of my country. If ya really had any intelligence you'd see the purpose for a well armed people. Game over i win
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
First, learn how to spell your own language properly.
Second, I am not in your country and I have no desire to be.
Third, it seems that you haven't learned anything from the recent events in your country (VA Tech, Columbine high school)
Fourth, I told you to crawl back to your trailer and grow a brain. It's not about winning or losing, you don't get the point and I am not going to try to explain it to you.
uzuragakure 4 years ago
Thanks for taking the piss out of this dumb redneck. They don't have the ability to think logically. Savage apes who eat bad food and work shitty jobs because they were to ignorant to pay atttention in school. Fucking disgrace to this country. Go form the Republic of Alabamastan and stay the hell away from our voting booths.
chloroxjello 4 years ago
Peace brother.
uzuragakure 4 years ago
Your not in this country then shut up it is not your concern.
lbuchite 4 years ago
The actual subject of this thread is my concern, The USA kidnapping innocent people just with names simmilar to guilty people and transporting them to nations that have not signed Geneva part 4 to torture them on USA request. And US Representative Dana Rohrabacher thinking that this is defensible in any way. Typical SHILL response is to tell a better argument to "shut up" didn't take long to get a shill response from you.
chepickle 4 years ago
I served your country loyally for 7 years.
uzuragakure 4 years ago
You served in the US areed forces what unit.
lbuchite 4 years ago
I served MY nation RNZAF in Avionics No 1 Repair Depot and 14 Squadron when they had the Bac167 (though for some reason I keep saying 163's) we called them Blunty's at the time they are commonly known as Strikemasters. They are used for advanced conversion training. RNZAF Ohakea for 14, RNAZF Woodburn for No.1 RD. I helped in one Andover conversion at No.1 RD Lox to Gox and the extra Wingtip fuel tanks, running the novex for the wingtip sensors, and the Gox cockpit display etc.
chepickle 4 years ago
Deport now! Thank you for reading.
f0rt0r 4 years ago
I got the response saying you had replied....I guess you're agreeing with me right?
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
Yep.
f0rt0r 4 years ago
Demand an apology!
apologizerohrabacher'dot'com
HeadOnRadioNetwork 4 years ago
STUPID GUN LOVING TRAILER PARK LIVING FAT FUCK HAMBURGER EATING NARROW MINDED ILLITERATE FUCK. Shoot yourself!!!
uzuragakure 4 years ago
Get your Anti American ass out of my country you stupid illegal gun hating narrow minded son of a donkey fucking whore! yeah i saw that video
wastedwhiteguy6978 4 years ago
That was intelligent.
lbuchite 4 years ago
That was intelligent.
lbuchite 4 years ago
So much for freedom of speech. What a hoax...
uzuragakure 4 years ago
Please put this man out of MY misery.
uzuragakure 4 years ago
What an arse!!
fishtank39 4 years ago
This man is utterly stupid. Nobody this ignorant, brash, or biased should be elected into public office.
derekarmstrong 4 years ago
What a pig fucker. I hope you Californians keep haunting him and bothering him until he's out of office.
myroncope 4 years ago
incredible, he should have been arrested in the room and led out by the police. then taken to one of the none existent prisons and checked whether or not he is a terrorist. because it is better to be safe than sorry.
LadyDea108 4 years ago
Wow...
jeanpaulbuchku 4 years ago
If a Czar (I believe it was Catherine the Great) can recognize that it is better to let 100 guilty people go than punish 1 innocent person, why can't a member of a democratic government beased on the idea of human rights? Since when did the openly despotic become more liberal than the nominally freedom-loving?
spozmo 4 years ago
What an ass, I hope he is taken out by Osma's ninjas. Or just a lonely drunk at 2am.
centralvalcal 4 years ago
What a dick.
malfredor 4 years ago
<i>What America is this?</i>
One where we care more about a terrorist than their fellow Americans
sfng21 4 years ago
What America is this?
marisolchow 4 years ago
Evil c*cksucker. Why do Republicans Hate America?
tae1720 4 years ago
He also thinks climate-change is a hoax, and although he's responsible for protecting our ports here in Long Beach, he hasn't done a thing, and if something happens there it is HIS FAULT.
For all his bloviating about "protecting americans" he sure doesn't show any signs of actually wanting to do it. He's more intune with stripping away your constitutional rights.
We need to vote this loser out of office.
volumptuous 4 years ago
This idiot has it exactly backwards. Apparently he has never read the Constitution or any decisions of the Supreme Court. It is better to let one guilty person go than to trample on the constitutional rights of all. What rock did he crawl out from under and who voted for him?
694unu 4 years ago
You first Congressman!!!! Let's mistakenly arrest YOU first. Jackass.
eccofonics 4 years ago
They do not hate our way of life. They hate the way we meddle with theirs!! What a scary, fascist person.
eccofonics 4 years ago
Today's GOP.
dermotjm 4 years ago
What an asshole!!!
missjibba 4 years ago
wow, you mean to tell me that this bozo was elected to office? wow, just wow!
eosiii56 4 years ago
Wow! All that is missing here is Rohrabacher wearing an arm band with a swaztika.
dougzilla 4 years ago