I mean it's understandable that people would be afraid of the fact that they've believed in something their whole lives and there is every reason to believe its all fake.. but can we stop with the fake rational arguments. Attacking other viewpoints is dumb. As if u and u're little book written by mortal men has authority to go against people's hard work and research into history. Anyone who's a devout catholic really has no reason to view this video anyway. Leave it to those who want to know.
I love it so much when religious types try to argue against all this. If you feel like facts and proof aren't necessary then fine.. Just "take it on faith." (Which, by the way, is the ULTIMATE COP-OUT). Might as well just say what it really is.. people are too afraid to not believe. You can't really argue with it though.. Fact of the matter is, there isn't really any historical proof that Jesus existed. Combine that with the fact that his story isn't original and you've got a fictional story.
@McGrimed Regardless of religious standpoint is more 'Historical' evidence Jesus existed than Julius Ceasar, from various places such as Jewish religious leaders at the time some of whom preached that he was a false prophet (so not really the types that would be saying he existed if he didn't), the census (main point for the whole trip to Bethlehem was so they could sign up to the census that Ceasar Augustus), plus virtually every historical text dating from the time writes that the guy existed.
@CoachDaKingMRP depends on your view of from Jesus time, for example the dead sea scrolls verified as being from appropriately 70AD contain writings of non believers (who claim variously that Jesus was a wise teacher/ and evil prophet and one or two others) There is also texts from Mara Bar-Serapion, the Talmud and Tactics, written at a similar time all generally believed to be accurate.
story of jesus is basic. you have special boy, who has special powers, and he decides to damn all humanity to hell if they dont worship him............................. not really hero i hoped. still, christians allways love to compare heroes in popular culture to jesus, even when they are compleatly difrent. christians dont seeme to relise that christianity did not invent these ideas. its like cod fags comparing every fps to call of duty. i hate it. heroes are better then jesus.
"Are you saying that was written in history" - Jesus actor, asking Bill about the Christ Myth theory.
"Well, absolutely." - Bill
If Bill had the spine to pose this question to a serious academic, which he doesn't, they'd have torn him to shreds on this subject.
Bill, nothing with the name "Gerald Massey" on it is in ANY way a legitimate source of serious history on this subject. I hope like hell someone points out the BS in this scene and calls you on it on your show someday.
@JRserver The religions Bill listed have as much credibility as Christianity. It's unfair for you to want him to argue with 'serious academic", when he himself is not the smartest Atheist around. It's not like Stephen Hawking is one asking the questions, so he's in his own league here. These people are the ones who base their whole life and morals on the Bible so they deserve someone to point out it's lies.
@DavidCastoe You must be joking. You're really going to argue that because Bill is not himself an expert in the field of religious history, then it is UNFAIR of me to raise the issue of why he didn't speak do such an expert in his movie, instead of just lining up a few dozen strawmen? Really?
@DavidCastoe You must be aware that even a non-expert can get the facts right, such as me pointing out that Horus was not born to a virgin, nor was he crucified, resurrected, or had twelve disciples, and that not only was he not born on Dec 25, but nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus was either. When I have a question about astrophysics, I don't randomly pull people off the street and ask them questions they don't have the answers to, I go to someone like, oh, I don't know, Stephen Hawking!
@JRserver umm, you obviously didn't watch the whole documentary, he talks to some scientists in it that are religious, and one of the head priests at the Vatican.
@eatmeimsteak Yes, I'm fully aware of that, and for every priest or person knowledgable of religon and it's historical context, he talks to about 20 people like the one's in this video. The ratio of experts to hicks in "Religulous" is skewed far too much in favor of the latter for your comment to be a legitimate argument.
@JRserver they where. christinaity is like greek myth. there is god who is moody, and is very easy to anger. there is the demi-god son. its like the big "simpsons did it" of mythology. allso many of these themes have done many times before, and sense the christianity was founded. many tales have special individuals who do special deeds, like saving the world. usualy they save them more real threats. christianity does not have monopoly on this stuff. its public domain and has be for long time.
Krishna wasn't a carpenter and wasn't baptized in a river. Mithra was not known as any of those things, and the idea that he was born to a virgin was actually added in later.
But I don't want to let silly things like FACTS or good scholarship get in the way
ok first of all, Mike, no that makes no sense, it just means people cling to something and want to start there own religion. it means we fuckin make up stupid shit. Second, no proof jesus or apostles even existed, thirdly, Horus was written in history first, BEFORE old or new testament. i would say it sounds fuckin fake to me lol. 95% of scientist are fuckin agnostic or atheist, and there like 75% of worlds smartest people, but go ahead and flow with the crowd, get my picture?
and add the fact that religious people seem to think sheep herders two thousand years ago are smarter then modern day scientists! somehow the belief that it was okay to kill your son for jesus (abraham) somehow died out. notice how if you use that story now you'd go to prison!
And just because similar stories were told throughout history does not mean that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus was fabricated, but it actually testifies to the opposite. The fact that other cultures have similar stories tells of the universality of the gospel message, and our innate ability to desire and connect with it.
The 4 gospel accounts were written extremely close to the time that these events occurred. This cannot be said of other accounts of similar nature throughout history. The difference between legend and history is the validity of the testimony given. The gospel writings have a lot up on these other tales.
FALSE. Krishna was not baptized in a river, rather was carried across the river by his dad, Vasudev, across the river Yamuna, to Vrndavan as a safe haven for Krishna.
IT is very disappointing that bill maher would lie about something like this, it is most likely that he was prepped up with this information and he never did any research to the supposed facts in this movie.
FALSE. Krishna was a not a carpenter, neither was his father (who was a statesman). Krishna became a prince, and fought for the kingdom with the Pandavas, but did not participate in the war as a soldier but rather as a chariot driver.
FALSE. Krishna was the eighth child had by his parents Devaki and Vasudev. So it is impossible that Krishnas mother was a virgin, when she had krishna. There was no mention of him having a virgin birth by the only text that accounts his life, the Bhagavad Gita.
'STOP! BLASPHEMER!' lmfao xD
macivan209 2 weeks ago
Probably the most convincing scene in the movie for me
themightyquillpen 1 month ago
haha brilliant.
rickstein123 1 month ago
Bill Maher is one of the greatest persons in the world!
RappingDwacky 1 month ago
I mean it's understandable that people would be afraid of the fact that they've believed in something their whole lives and there is every reason to believe its all fake.. but can we stop with the fake rational arguments. Attacking other viewpoints is dumb. As if u and u're little book written by mortal men has authority to go against people's hard work and research into history. Anyone who's a devout catholic really has no reason to view this video anyway. Leave it to those who want to know.
McGrimed 3 months ago
I love it so much when religious types try to argue against all this. If you feel like facts and proof aren't necessary then fine.. Just "take it on faith." (Which, by the way, is the ULTIMATE COP-OUT). Might as well just say what it really is.. people are too afraid to not believe. You can't really argue with it though.. Fact of the matter is, there isn't really any historical proof that Jesus existed. Combine that with the fact that his story isn't original and you've got a fictional story.
McGrimed 3 months ago
@McGrimed Regardless of religious standpoint is more 'Historical' evidence Jesus existed than Julius Ceasar, from various places such as Jewish religious leaders at the time some of whom preached that he was a false prophet (so not really the types that would be saying he existed if he didn't), the census (main point for the whole trip to Bethlehem was so they could sign up to the census that Ceasar Augustus), plus virtually every historical text dating from the time writes that the guy existed.
Stevros3 2 weeks ago
@Stevros3 actually there is no historical documentation of jesus by the historians of that age that are recognized today
CoachDaKingMRP 6 days ago
@CoachDaKingMRP depends on your view of from Jesus time, for example the dead sea scrolls verified as being from appropriately 70AD contain writings of non believers (who claim variously that Jesus was a wise teacher/ and evil prophet and one or two others) There is also texts from Mara Bar-Serapion, the Talmud and Tactics, written at a similar time all generally believed to be accurate.
Stevros3 6 days ago
story of jesus is basic. you have special boy, who has special powers, and he decides to damn all humanity to hell if they dont worship him............................. not really hero i hoped. still, christians allways love to compare heroes in popular culture to jesus, even when they are compleatly difrent. christians dont seeme to relise that christianity did not invent these ideas. its like cod fags comparing every fps to call of duty. i hate it. heroes are better then jesus.
gethsoftware 3 months ago
Why didn't Jesus play tennis?
Because he wasn't real.
SoxFan217 5 months ago
Who needs facts when you have blind faith.
duanpattaya 1 year ago
"Are you saying that was written in history" - Jesus actor, asking Bill about the Christ Myth theory.
"Well, absolutely." - Bill
If Bill had the spine to pose this question to a serious academic, which he doesn't, they'd have torn him to shreds on this subject.
Bill, nothing with the name "Gerald Massey" on it is in ANY way a legitimate source of serious history on this subject. I hope like hell someone points out the BS in this scene and calls you on it on your show someday.
JRserver 1 year ago
@JRserver The religions Bill listed have as much credibility as Christianity. It's unfair for you to want him to argue with 'serious academic", when he himself is not the smartest Atheist around. It's not like Stephen Hawking is one asking the questions, so he's in his own league here. These people are the ones who base their whole life and morals on the Bible so they deserve someone to point out it's lies.
DavidCastoe 9 months ago
@DavidCastoe You must be joking. You're really going to argue that because Bill is not himself an expert in the field of religious history, then it is UNFAIR of me to raise the issue of why he didn't speak do such an expert in his movie, instead of just lining up a few dozen strawmen? Really?
JRserver 9 months ago
@DavidCastoe You must be aware that even a non-expert can get the facts right, such as me pointing out that Horus was not born to a virgin, nor was he crucified, resurrected, or had twelve disciples, and that not only was he not born on Dec 25, but nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus was either. When I have a question about astrophysics, I don't randomly pull people off the street and ask them questions they don't have the answers to, I go to someone like, oh, I don't know, Stephen Hawking!
JRserver 9 months ago
@JRserver umm, you obviously didn't watch the whole documentary, he talks to some scientists in it that are religious, and one of the head priests at the Vatican.
eatmeimsteak 8 months ago
@eatmeimsteak Yes, I'm fully aware of that, and for every priest or person knowledgable of religon and it's historical context, he talks to about 20 people like the one's in this video. The ratio of experts to hicks in "Religulous" is skewed far too much in favor of the latter for your comment to be a legitimate argument.
JRserver 8 months ago
@JRserver they where. christinaity is like greek myth. there is god who is moody, and is very easy to anger. there is the demi-god son. its like the big "simpsons did it" of mythology. allso many of these themes have done many times before, and sense the christianity was founded. many tales have special individuals who do special deeds, like saving the world. usualy they save them more real threats. christianity does not have monopoly on this stuff. its public domain and has be for long time.
gethsoftware 3 months ago
@gethsoftware You haven't read a lot of history books, have you?
JRserver 3 months ago
Whats the song?
judgemathis95 1 year ago
1:11 wow i didn't know bill had biceps look
TLK4productions 1 year ago
In Horus Name Amen.
larsloveskirk 1 year ago
BS!!!
deuceswag 1 year ago
just watch the first 5 minutes of Did Jesus Die and tell me what you think
rcr1025 1 year ago
"FACTS"? you realize there are no facts that jesus's mother was a virgin
jackassjoey2 2 years ago 8
@jackassjoey2
Yeah but some people said it was true.
...so it is. End of story.
Grassrootbeer 1 year ago
@Grassrootbeer lol if only that could happen, i wish it could
jackassjoey2 7 months ago
Krishna wasn't a carpenter and wasn't baptized in a river. Mithra was not known as any of those things, and the idea that he was born to a virgin was actually added in later.
But I don't want to let silly things like FACTS or good scholarship get in the way
l33tpwnzord 2 years ago 2
ok first of all, Mike, no that makes no sense, it just means people cling to something and want to start there own religion. it means we fuckin make up stupid shit. Second, no proof jesus or apostles even existed, thirdly, Horus was written in history first, BEFORE old or new testament. i would say it sounds fuckin fake to me lol. 95% of scientist are fuckin agnostic or atheist, and there like 75% of worlds smartest people, but go ahead and flow with the crowd, get my picture?
Finadom 2 years ago
and add the fact that religious people seem to think sheep herders two thousand years ago are smarter then modern day scientists! somehow the belief that it was okay to kill your son for jesus (abraham) somehow died out. notice how if you use that story now you'd go to prison!
jackassjoey2 2 years ago 5
And just because similar stories were told throughout history does not mean that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus was fabricated, but it actually testifies to the opposite. The fact that other cultures have similar stories tells of the universality of the gospel message, and our innate ability to desire and connect with it.
mikeulrich84 2 years ago
The 4 gospel accounts were written extremely close to the time that these events occurred. This cannot be said of other accounts of similar nature throughout history. The difference between legend and history is the validity of the testimony given. The gospel writings have a lot up on these other tales.
mikeulrich84 2 years ago
LIE # 3: Krishna was baptized
FALSE. Krishna was not baptized in a river, rather was carried across the river by his dad, Vasudev, across the river Yamuna, to Vrndavan as a safe haven for Krishna.
IT is very disappointing that bill maher would lie about something like this, it is most likely that he was prepped up with this information and he never did any research to the supposed facts in this movie.
rhoadsofoz 2 years ago
ya, wikipedia makes worlds come true... haha
Finadom 2 years ago
LIE # 2: Krishna was a carpenter
FALSE. Krishna was a not a carpenter, neither was his father (who was a statesman). Krishna became a prince, and fought for the kingdom with the Pandavas, but did not participate in the war as a soldier but rather as a chariot driver.
rhoadsofoz 2 years ago
LIE # 1: Krishna was born of a virgin birth
FALSE. Krishna was the eighth child had by his parents Devaki and Vasudev. So it is impossible that Krishnas mother was a virgin, when she had krishna. There was no mention of him having a virgin birth by the only text that accounts his life, the Bhagavad Gita.
rhoadsofoz 2 years ago